Of course you need to put the inmates to do normal work so they will gradually get used to it. It works because once a prisoner has to wear working clothes instead of prison clothes, make thinking process in order to finish the job, and feel like he is actually being rewarded for all this. Finnish open prison is actually a lifestyle changing center.
@mikrokupu6 жыл бұрын
The Finnish approach is pragmatic, isolating the low-risk inmates is unproductive and expensive, makes more sense to give them tools to change their life.
@oibruv6 жыл бұрын
Also free workforce. Cheaper to use these guys than pay 2000€ a month for some other dude to do the same job.
@mikrokupu6 жыл бұрын
RoyalFri It used to be like that in the past, open prison inmates were building roads and airports. Now the idea is to rehabilitate, not to "pay back" by working, most jobs these days require education and experience anyway. And naturally working or studying is voluntary, though many are willing to, the inmates are paid for the work. Just checked the open prison inmates can earn max 5e per hour, minus possible taxes. In some cases you can keep your civil job, naturally your life is still controlled.
@torpmorp13245 жыл бұрын
RoyalFri they actually get paid for their work. There was one guy who earned 2600 € per month in prison and people weren’t too happy about that
@mikrokupu4 жыл бұрын
@Benny Silin Don't know if there are any low-risk ax murderers. But who knows ;)
@themaster16705 жыл бұрын
The reason it works is because these people have no reason to hate anyone, so they can't blame anyone but themselves. They are treated like people, with the exception that they don't have freedom and that is a pretty horrible feeling to any sane person. It's a lot more effective at turning people's lives around than any other system.
@torpmorp13245 жыл бұрын
TheMaster1 there are murderers, rapists and child molesters in prisons too, and the other prisoners don’t treat them nicely
@pyramusk32644 жыл бұрын
The reason it work's are because they are low risk prisoners. You can't put gang members in this kind of prison. I know this because i work in an open prison in scandinavia (Denmark) as well. Wed put gang members in there and it doesn't work at all.
@EternalChaos5373 жыл бұрын
@@pyramusk3264 I just saw a documentary where a murder was in an open prison in Finland "serving" 16 years.
@mixlllllll Жыл бұрын
@@EternalChaos537He had probably been classified as not dangerous anymore so he got transferred to an open prison.
@Alexandros.Mograine4 жыл бұрын
people dont realize that it might be a nice prison for low risk inmates, but its still a prison. dont act like its a hotel, i think the system works well for low risk inmates.
@georgealderson44243 жыл бұрын
Interesting comment. Please can you explain how it is still prison? There does not seem to be punishment as might be expected from prison!
@SoL_ismyname3 жыл бұрын
@@georgealderson4424 because the punishment is removal from society and restriction of movement. If your life is being watched it's going to be punishing enough.
@georgealderson44243 жыл бұрын
@@SoL_ismyname Thanks. That is an interesting comment Sakari but the video did not seem to sbow restriction of movement and with CCTV everywhere these days it seems we are all being watched! However there system obviously worked.
@mr.alexiegaming95483 жыл бұрын
also for murderers, it works well for some reason
@Alexandros.Mograine3 жыл бұрын
@@georgealderson4424 not every prisoner is in a open prison, and even in open prisons you arent allowed to leave whenever you want.
@mika40984 жыл бұрын
Especially for low level offenders, putting them in an American style closed cell with a career criminal probably wont help much. You're just gonna radicalize them, change them from a person who made a mistake into another career criminal. It's a different situation if they've committed triple murder or something, then they would be locked in a more guarded facility for a long time. Tought about "crime needs harsh punishment" might work well in theory, but this sort of rehabilitation works well in real life, which is a big difference.
@jakewalberg41773 жыл бұрын
This is a bit misleading clip. Those sentenced to less than one year's sentence may, at their discretion, be placed directly in an open institution to reconcile the sentence. The conditions for the placement of those who have been sentenced to longer sentences in open institutions will be assessed at some point in the execution of imprisonment. Only those who have been behaving well and who are not dangerous to others, will have a chance to be transferred to open prison at the end of their sentences. Escaping the open prison results every time in placement in a closed prison. For such inmates, it's not possible to be placed in open prison again.
@georgealderson44243 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clarifying
@ukkomies1006 жыл бұрын
We have worse prisons for reoffenders and such. But the threshold is pretty high
@Victor-tl4dk3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm curious about the video put out by insider news? This prison looks so run down compared to the ones on that video.
@MrAatami6 жыл бұрын
I almost wanted to stay for a while longer. I got sick like two days before getting released and I had already arranged a very early release and pick up. Me getting sick back then had nothing to do with prison, other than, maybe I was a bit excited to get out and I couldn't sleep so well.
@tiernanwearen80963 жыл бұрын
What were you in the nick for? The prisons have come a long way since the white guard camp for red pows
@shopliftingcentral3 жыл бұрын
i am curious to know how prison was in your country
@Rk-kp7ng5 жыл бұрын
4:22 Vittu! :DDD
@mikaveekoo3 жыл бұрын
Heitit ruman sanan. Mikä hätänä?
@Amanicon253 жыл бұрын
Haista Vittu
@DiavalloX3 жыл бұрын
4:02 I burst out laughing at this one. Every other person they interviewed before spoke in a thick finnish or like french accent, and in comes this guy with a lazy ass American accent talking about "okay i stabbed a guy but" 😂😂😂😂
@KaregoAt2 жыл бұрын
It was so funny, you can instantly tell from his accent, and maybe a little from his attitude :D he's right in the way that some people are not open to rehabilitation, but that's the case everywhere. You'll always have some re-offenders. The difference is in the will to rehabilitate instead of exacting revenge regardless.
@diabloencorbata19894 жыл бұрын
When a society is predominantly educated, crimes are low.
@pyramusk32644 жыл бұрын
Or rich!
@diabloencorbata19894 жыл бұрын
Incorrect-as money brings another side of hyper corrupción.
@pyramusk32644 жыл бұрын
@@diabloencorbata1989 So an educated, poor society is the best? Rubbish!
@diabloencorbata19894 жыл бұрын
Pyramus K when educated, being poor is a small issue solved by the individual’s knowledge.
@pyramusk32644 жыл бұрын
@@diabloencorbata1989 Clearly you haven't seen what an empty stomach do to people.
@MichaTheLight3 жыл бұрын
And again Nordic countries are decades or even centuries ahead of the rest of the world.
@jasonmenace25004 жыл бұрын
walk in the park litterally
@niilo75525 жыл бұрын
In normal prisons in finland you have holidays
@yyii7155 Жыл бұрын
I am from Finland 🇫🇮
@hulagu3068 Жыл бұрын
If you want to see how civilized a society is see how they treat their prisoners.
@bertreynolds81466 жыл бұрын
It's like the Finnish dream...you move to Finland just so you can enjoy the relaxed prison services, a real experience.
@themaster16705 жыл бұрын
Except when you're in an open prison you need to work and you can't control your own life in any way. If you treat prisoners like animals, they'll turn into animals, as evidenced by the insanely inefficient system in the U.S. that only manages to radicalise inmates. In the Nordics most prisoners are treated like people, and they get used to a working life, and when they eventually get out of prison they almost never go back because they don't want to lose their freedom. Prisons in most places are meant to punish, prisons in the Nordics are meant to rehabilitate, so that most of these people will actually some day be useful to society instead of living their entire life being fed and clothed by the government. Of course dangerous criminals don't get to enjoy open prisons like these guys.
@PM-gf1nj3 жыл бұрын
Except if you get a sentence of minimum of 12 months incarceration, you'll most likely be deported. So you get to go back home, but as a prisoner.
@JohnSmith-zk8xp3 жыл бұрын
@@themaster1670 As opposed to working as a free man because you need to work?
@juhaniniittykumpu2009 Жыл бұрын
This is not a jail. This is Job camp. There In finland, we have normal jail.
@whenggomez21376 жыл бұрын
funny 2 chinese girls: 1: 01 "prisons...a...prisons.."
@netsong22394 жыл бұрын
3:20 when they call Finland scandinavia
@Catz7803 жыл бұрын
Hes like:wtf
@JohnSmith-zk8xp3 жыл бұрын
It is.
@mrks998 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-zk8xp its not
@sunainapanthy59533 жыл бұрын
3:21 - 3:26 he is asking questions feel like Borish Johnson is talking
@luismoreira37113 жыл бұрын
In finland prison paradace the garden of éden
@jennapedersen22866 жыл бұрын
as a finn, i think it's great that they get a chance to live a "normal life" even behind the bars. but i do agree that the punishments should be a little bit harder..
@KaregoAt2 жыл бұрын
Harder in what way? Longer time or more restrictive?
@goldythehavanese7532 Жыл бұрын
Its not a punishment its a rehab
@KossolaxtheForesworn6 жыл бұрын
as a finn I think our court system is way too lenient and the punishments should be harder. generally it tends to be slap on the wrists even for hardcore murderers and other other pillagers. we also have people who should not see the light of day ever again and yet the system treats them practically with silk gloves. tho I did read that we might get rid of the first time offense so that we can punish people harder even on their first time. this has been caused by the increasing crime rate that the immigrants have brought with them. like the terrorist who stabbed people in turku, he got a life sense not too long time ago. tho does it mean its just 6 years and then few years on parole. doesnt need to be an expert on the matter to know that if this maniac gets out his gonna do it again within two months.
@sebastiantiainen27496 жыл бұрын
MrAnimepredator a life sentence is a life sentence, you'll get out on parole after an average of 12 years but the terrorist will sit 20 before anyone even considers parole, and after that he'll be sent back to Morocco. People downplay the sentences too much. As an example, a hefty fine is worse than a year in prison. The problem with the finnish judicial system is that it is way too slow
@stedysteelsted91746 жыл бұрын
In finland death penalty comes only in form of revenge kill / planned murder by some one whos family/life u ruined cause that gives u max 15 years
@Amateur_Pianist_4726 жыл бұрын
No, what you should do is not take in illegal migrants, don’t make the system harsher on your own people. You’re using feelings more than your mind. We feel that punishments should be harsher but when looking at the evidence, we see that the finish way equals lower crime. It may seem soft but evidence doesn’t lie.
@rikuvakevainen61576 жыл бұрын
Tavallisesti itse olisin myös kovempien rangaistusten kannalla. Valitettavasti en ole löytänyt yhtään tutkimusta, jotka osoittaisivat, että kovat rangaistukset vähentäisivät rikollisuutta. Päinvastoin.
@torpmorp13244 жыл бұрын
Stedysteel Sted there’s no death penalty in Finland
@yuvraj9797Ай бұрын
basically they're out of parole the moment they get into jail
@keriddunk15202 жыл бұрын
So wouldn't it encourage people doing crimes? Like so say someone wants to commit a crime , he wouldn't have to fear the consequences. The worst is a limited freedom resort
@user-wr3gt4ji8g5 жыл бұрын
Привет из России.
@Aprikuusi20034 жыл бұрын
finland isnt in scandinavia. boo you french media
@tiernanwearen80963 жыл бұрын
Where is it then?
@Aprikuusi20033 жыл бұрын
@@tiernanwearen8096europe
@saraan50343 жыл бұрын
Yeah, only a part of Lappland is "scandinavian" but the country itself is european.
@tiernanwearen80963 жыл бұрын
@@Aprikuusi2003 you could argue that from Lisbon to Moscow is Europe
@blackcoffeebeans61003 жыл бұрын
@@Aprikuusi2003 Finland is a Nordic country
@aaro34556 жыл бұрын
2 of the 3 guys were refugees😅😅 who could have guessed😂😂
@jinxd5116 жыл бұрын
No its the new comers a.k.a Refugees.. Also most unemplyoed
@sammakkotonttu6 жыл бұрын
Juuso Peltoniemi, the American is not refugee so maybe the two ”refugees” were his billiards partner and the lamb feeder both of whom were not native Finns
@jamison13235 жыл бұрын
@@Rehunauris no buddy
@jdjGSHBFjh68827 Жыл бұрын
This should be the stuff given to people who have committed petty crimes, honestly.
@rackadactal30442 жыл бұрын
We Americans have a sense of entitlement that other countries don’t” I’m afraid of Americans “ is the soundtrack for America I always hear it
@ph11p3540 Жыл бұрын
This works on first time, soft core criminals. Give them lifeskills and value added skills and they can rejoin society. This is the only kind of criminal Scandinavian countries see. Non have experience with the hard core violent criminal whos main motivation is violence, brutality and cruelty as an end to itself. For thise kind of criminal, they dont want to work in any legitimate job, nor can you trust them not to turn on you. For these kinds of people there is only permanent segregation from open society in a high security prison. Did you know the most dangerous countraband item in a prison is a cell phone, tablet or laptop computer. It allows locked up gang leaders to coordinate all kinds of major crimes beyond the prison.
@Leon6126 жыл бұрын
This only works in homogenous societies. I envy this.
@Hazzelnot946 жыл бұрын
Leon612 Based on what empirical data? Has it been tried in other more mixed societys likes France or the US? What has been proven is that recidivism is higher in those states that only see prison as a punitive tool rather than a rehabilitative tool.
@mikrokupu6 жыл бұрын
The Nordic countries are not that homogenous anymore
@khatack6 жыл бұрын
homogenous SMALL societies.
@paleemperor53796 жыл бұрын
lol none of the inmates who were interviewed were actual Finns judging by their accents
@altsu5056 жыл бұрын
´+5000Kone Norway's "hotel prisons" are way worse than normal ones, Suicide rates there are way higher because people are isolated from social contact.
@theblacksal2 жыл бұрын
I lost some important documents and must go to a police station (it merged with a jail). That place smelt like a public toilet, dim light, and I really don't want to see more because the smell itself made me wanted to puke 🤢
@lexluthor64973 жыл бұрын
Life quality.Do you want nazis or somewhat normal people.You get what you give.some criminals are very fast thinking brains and if you give them a challange or a chance they might just choose booring tax paying life.or not but every time one out of two choses the booring not interesting way you cut the crime rate down 50%.what they are doing wrong in the states is for example is going full out violence on the most brutal people there is.I am a very big guy and if I get 4 guys are screaming in my face I go mental but if a lovely polite half my size lady ask me in a nice way I just might do what she wants just because I don't want to ruin her day.Of course there is a risk but if you send in two people one lovely charming for talking and one big for muscle it should work just fine.Ok this does not work on junkies or sick people.If a old grannie starts to make you food and you have a problem with that you are gone.grannies rule!
@Muumihullu6 жыл бұрын
Note that all the prisoners were foreigners
@Amateur_Pianist_4726 жыл бұрын
All three of them... yeah 1/6 prisoners are foreign and most of them are Estonian and Russian.
@mikaveekoo3 жыл бұрын
We noted no such thing.
@k856 жыл бұрын
You had to wait for the Finnish-American prisoner to tell the plain truth. Works for some, not all.
@Hazzelnot946 жыл бұрын
k8500000 Because the prisoner has gone through the statistics, analysed it and published a peer-reviewed paper. The American system clearly does not work, why not try another system?
@Bruh-jr2ep6 жыл бұрын
Simon Eriksson This!
@etbedtalksAOH3 жыл бұрын
In finland offenders hide for fun before getting arrested.
@notapplicable45673 жыл бұрын
Can you comit muder and go to one of these prisions? And lets have a converstion about that, i think this is brilliant idea but lets get to the problems with it.
@poplar66583 жыл бұрын
Yes you can
@wobbly_bubbly12353 жыл бұрын
Even if america does this kind of thing It be a idiotic idea
@susanna86125 жыл бұрын
Free 🎱 pool, gym, basketball, farms so on and outside many jobless Finnish people cannot afford even go to gym.
@toinenosoite31734 жыл бұрын
Bull in so many ways.
@freezedeve31194 жыл бұрын
i bet you can find free gym if you look enough or if you are really poor you can ask social security to pay for your gym.
@susanna86124 жыл бұрын
@@freezedeve3119 No you cant in Nordic countries and social security does not pay any money to hobbies. Maybe if you are "refugee" they will but If you are local, no chance.
@freezedeve31194 жыл бұрын
@@susanna8612 you are asking it for wrong cause, it is not hobby it is for your health.
@ThePiitteri3 жыл бұрын
I basically went to free gyms for 10 years. Not that hard to find
@Unnatural093 жыл бұрын
Punish the crime not the person, punish them by taking their time away.
@Dwarvenforge895 жыл бұрын
This will never work in America
@shoopshoop76504 жыл бұрын
Boy why are you a colarado boy with a confederate flag? Shouldnt you be somewhere in the south?
@MairusPleilinen4 жыл бұрын
@@shoopshoop7650 cringe
@poplar66583 жыл бұрын
It will
@tiernanwearen80963 жыл бұрын
Why not?
@KaregoAt2 жыл бұрын
Not with that attitude.
@blagoevski3364 жыл бұрын
F
@JohnSmith-zk8xp3 жыл бұрын
In north america, this would be a dream. I am sure if people could walk away from work and life they would live like this the rest of their lives. Better off.
@exoticbutter42983 жыл бұрын
Welp in finland the normal life is still beter than prison
@terencegurung79796 жыл бұрын
I love 💝💝😘
@s2kyy4 жыл бұрын
You too 💕😘
@olwynskye4173 жыл бұрын
What's up with Finland wanting to be a part of Scandinavia? It's fine to be just Nordic.
@jyrki22753 жыл бұрын
Its More of foreigners saying its from scandinavia most finns know its nordic
@blackcoffeebeans61003 жыл бұрын
You are wrong. Finns do not like if Finland is called scandinavia. It is not different anyway.
@user-vq9lr6ss4z2 жыл бұрын
We are not part of Scandinavia? Sometimes america news just dont know what we are so they use wrong term :I
@apruszynkap54234 жыл бұрын
missähän on mahdettu kuvata oon ollut jokasessa avotalossa suomessa lappia lukuunottamatta mut ei oo video SUOMESTA!!! eikä vankilat
@mikaveekoo3 жыл бұрын
Hehe...
@SavolaxMitsu3 жыл бұрын
Tule joskus käymään täällä isolla kirkolla, tuolla Itämeressä on sellainen saari kuin Suomenlinna.
@amberdee38064 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know what most of these people did....hate speech? Thought crimes? Should make you think and wonder. It helps people adjust to the "new" life.
@raskolnikov70493 жыл бұрын
drug crimes, the "thought crimes" are more of a swedish and british thing.
@Coyak-6 жыл бұрын
they will not change because they enjoy the life they live
@fraenzchen853 жыл бұрын
Like your last braincell..
@stephenogbodo13283 жыл бұрын
Incentivizing criminality?
@PM-gf1nj3 жыл бұрын
On the contrary, incentivizing good behaviour and societal conformity in prisoners. No one does crime because they _might_ have a chance of going to work as a part of their sentence if they are deemed suitable. However, they might stop future criminal activity once given a chance at a normal life and shown how it is done. There's more crime when there are more marginalized people. The aim is to demarginalize ex-convicts.