A Closer Look At My Jointer And Planer And What They're For (Oliver Woodworking Machinery)

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[@AndyRawls]

Thanks for tuning in and let me know if you have any questions regarding the process or the machines!

[@irpcpastor]

Andy - how do you decide when to use your s4s machine vs. the jointer/planer combo? (Thanks for the great videos!)

[@AndyRawls]

The S4S is limited to a width of 7.5” so anything over that has to go through the jointer and planer. If I just needed a few quick boards then I’ll use the jointer and planer but if I’m running a lot of parts then I’ll use the S4S. I’m using the S4S way less than I used to because I’m building less production furniture on account of producing more content for KZbin.

[@delcoshootingsupply]

Instead of the table saw could you run the final edge back through the Jointer to clean up the last side?

[@filipfabijanic_4]

@@delcoshootingsupply that would not make it parallel to the other edge. It would be square to face but not parallel to the other edge.

[@filipfabijanic_4]

Have you ever seen one of those European style 5 operation combination machines? You have sliding tablesaw, spindle moulder, horizontal mortiser, jointer and thicknesser all in one. I have that type of machine and it is nice because it doesn’t take that much space and also it is a little cheaper.

[@cow2196]

I am 12 years old and everything on my Christmas list is woodworking tools It would be so awesome to have all the tools and a big shop like you.

[@JimG31547]

Congratulations on getting that sponsorship from Oliver. The jointer and planer are beautiful machines that would be great in any shop.

[@stallionranchwoodworks]

Pro Tip: paint your floor in front of your jointer with texture floor paint. It will help you gain traction while pushing those beasty boards thru.

[@philleasthouse3791]

Big boys toys!!! Nice to have the right, quality kit to work with.

[@rodyoakum1194]

I’m Glade You Have Been So Blessed After 35 Years As Woodwork I Was Able Only ToBuy Used Powermatic Green Label You Do Wonderful Work Really Enjoy Your Videos

[@davidndahura7437]

I thank you for the nice shop, you have good employment for your self.

[@zephyr1408]

Andy I really enjoy your channel and content! I am a Finish/Custom Carpenter Contractor and hv learned just tons from your content on joinery and building fine furniture pieces! So thank you very much ! Also what a nice little family you hv God Bless! I raised 5 kids 2 mine, 2 my sisters, & one Foster boy! They R gone now & fine ! I am alone and sometimes still wake up thinking I hear them😪 So enjoy God’s blessings my man! (I know you do). I am convinced God knew your need to feed your family and sent the “Oliver’s “ over to help👊

[@rogerhodges9721]

What I understand is that the original Oliver Equipment Company went out of business. In the 1990's(?) some young guys purchased the brand and some remaining stock and tried to make a go of it. I don't remember names but, I met them in the Los Angeles area. Looking at the Oliver webpage, I see a bunch of Asian manufactured equipment painted an updated Oliver Blue. Admittedly, It does look to be good quality and have some nice new features but it is not the century old equipment company.

[@chrissteere9494]

I have done my homework with woodworking machines and I love what Oliver brings to the game. Several machines are on my wish list for Christmas this year!

[@ApexWoodworks]

Andy, I'm always amazed with your ability to clearly communicate your wealth of woodworking knowledge. Thanks for covering the many features of these two most important woodworking machines with us!

[@roBLINDhood]

Those are some good looking machines!! Thanks for sharing! Wouldn’t have known about Oliver otherwise.

[@aclawrence]

Congrats Andy. Those are some sweet machines.

[@damirlorca1298]

the top of the line machines, very cool man you deserve it and i love the video!

[@filipfabijanic_4]

Your furniture and your work is incredible Andy! You are a huge inspiration to me so thank you. When I just started woodworking, your channel was one of the first ones of that type that I watched and subscribed to. From then all until now I respect and appreciate you and your work. Keep up the good work!

[@AndyRawls]

Thanks!!!

[@Texas-Bob]

They both look like awesome and very well built machines. That planer beats the hell out of my Harbor Freight Bauer. You’re very fortunate that Oliver wanted to work with you !

[@AndyRawls]

Thank you and I agree!!

[@Jaypark1113]

Thank you so much for teaching your wonderful machine.....

[@DJKosloski324]

Beautiful pieces of machinery.

[@b3ardedbarbarian]

Those look amazing! I'm over here drooling and hoping I can afford something like that someday.

[@rodpotts2666]

Love Oliver machines.

[@jeffmayart]

Congratulations on the new gear! Love your channel, keep up the good work

[@richardking7800]

I expect some really nice projects now . Will be hard to wait! Great machines Andy

[@eddiegrathwohl624]

I wish I had that much space. Love the work.

[@danaskubic2145]

Nice stuff, jealous as all get out. Thanks for sharing.

[@DroneMaverick]

Your channel is super cool Andy! Every man looks at your shop and would love a place like yours to build wood projects! 🪚 🔨 ⚒️

[@SeanSchade]

16” jointer…drool 😎

[@bigdogmn73]

That jointer sure is a nice upgrade from your Jet combo machine..

[@hassanal-mosawi4235]

Thanks for sharing that

[@robertlondon6728]

Really liking the 16” jointer. Only thing I question is why the hand wheel is so low on the 20” planer. Oliver’s 16 inch model is much higher up. Leaning over and bending down to turn the crank would get annoying, at least for me.

[@keithspencersr.6806]

Beautiful lumber

[@meneerstruijk5760]

Nice bandsaw 😎

[@timhalcomb4041]

Thanks for sharing the information nice machine you have a blessed day in the name of Jesus

[@cracked302]

“Hey, you wanna keep those tools? Cool, make a video about how good they are!” -Oliver 😂

[@davidwilliams6016]

WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU NOT LOVE THE HELIX? THEY DO COST MORE, BUT THE MAINT IS SO WORTH IT! If I can put a Helix on my machines I will absolutely be doing it. Already did my Jointer, WOW! the Noise alone is worth it, plus the satisfaction of Ease of cut and purity of cut. THE ONLY WAY TO GO! Hands down!

[@M8keStuff]

FYI, Country of origin is Taiwan. Not a hater, was curious myself. Noticed a lot of similarities with other brands. Look like a nice piece of equipment.

[@montet202]

Grizzly, Baileigh, Laguna, Powermatic, Oliver, all share the same factory, and base structure. The only difference is fit and finish.

[@Bottle_Rocket_Hollow]

I think you just convinced me I need these tools. I'm in the process of building my my wood shop. would you recommend having three phase in the shop?

[@bartloncke9359]

I see quite a lot of US woodworkers in their tiny garage using a separate jointer and planer, what about the use of combined machines (jointer-planers) in the States? Are they just not readily available or just not that popular? All you'd need is the footprint of a jointer as the planer sits underneath. As for Andy Rawls and his olympic stadium sized workshop, I fully understand though why he has two separate machines.

[@michealmaj3484]

Nice video. I liked the demo part before explaining the particulars about the machines. I was extremely lucky to find a factory owned 2015 model with a 6” wide table and have been waiting for a week for delivery, due on 13th. Recently, I’ve found real enjoyment cutting logs into lumber, making a white oak family table, maybe I can continue this as a business when I retire from the military in 2 years (27 total). Could you recommend a plainer model that aligns with the jointer I have coming? Something that will make up for any shortcomings I may run into with the 6” jointer.

[@ShopTherapy623]

Tool Goals!

[@johnbernard6666]

Hey Andy is that a crack I saw on the outfeed table on the jointer.

[@dylansousa5571]

Good video

[@kevinmorley8119]

Very cool, I didn't actually know Oliver was still in buisness.

[@christobar]

Crying green green green tears of envy

[@titus142]

Helical cutter heads are like when carbide saw blades came out, the old HSS blades were rendered obsolete. HSS straight knives are pretty much in the same boat. It's not a small difference between a straight knife head and a helical, its a huge difference. IDK who would think straight knives are better today.

[@AndyRawls]

I agree but I know several furniture makers who refuse to switch to helical heads.

[@barclaytaylor9528]

Andy...how has your new oliver machines held up through everyday production work?

[@TitsMcGeester]

Wow that is absolutely beautiful machinery, I hope to one day have a shop as well laid out as yours.

[@richvalle4343]

Great machinery. I am still using a Jet 6” jointer and looking for new or used but in good shape jointer

[@AndyRawls]

I started with the exact same Jet 6” jointer 12 years ago.

[@HampsteadHomestead]

Sweet!

[@jovandoroslovac7746]

Its sooo kool

[@paultay23]

WoW

[@twoweary]

Beautiful, quality machines. Do you still have the machine that spits out S4S boards in one shot ?

[@patrickdavies6514]

I’m a little amazed that they still make jointers with the rabbet shelf. I don’t know anyone that uses them myself. That’s why the depth will go to 3/4”.

[@chrisjohnson6482]

It's helpful when jointing boards wider than the jointer. In this case 16" you aren't gonna have too many boards like that, but it does definitely come in handy pretty regularly in my shop. I don't use it to cut an intentional rabbet but I do use it so I can then flip it over onto a sled for my planer and use that to face joint a board wider than my jointer

[@johngiromini5745]

Helical heads was all you needed to say. Once I started using them, I didn't purchase anything else that didn't come with helical already installed.

[@Monuments_to_Good_Intentions]

My rockwell 24” 4 knife head, made by SCMI is pretty dang awesome! I thought about possibly upgrading to a helical head at some point, but I think it would be a waste of money.0

[@mattinthehat6780]

Could you manage with just the jointer? It seems to me that the planer is good if you want to preserve an edge but get two faves faces parallel. But if you're looking for square lumber you could just joint each face off the last. Would that give similar results to using both machines?

[@mlaboy43]

I don’t have a jointer, but I was wondering if you needed to press the flattened edge against the fence when jointing the second edge to ensure it is perpendicular. I have seen people do it this way, but I don’t think you did in the video. Just curious if it is necessary

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic, Andy! Congrats for the new toys! 😃 I still have to buy almost everything... The only things I have are a drill press, a miter saw and a circular saw. 😬 But I'm going to get a table saw tomorrow! 😊 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@jamesmoore1532]

How is the snipe on the planer? I had planed on upgrading soon and was going to get a fixed head.

[@deanburton8251]

Love your content! No I’m not a bot

[@deanburton8251]

See? Told ya

[@dagwood1327]

I like how the thickness planer is fixed to the base. So you could make out feed tables. My thickness planer the top cutter head is fixed so if I made an out feed it would have to be adjustable as well.

[@robewalk2]

Very informative episode Andy. Questions: How wide of a piece of wood can you level on the joiner? Also, when you get your wood for projects, is it already dried so you're not worried of the moisture content of the wood? I know you mentioned before that some of your customers supply you with the wood they want used on a project. Is that wood always dried so you can start the project immediately if you had to? 💖👍

[@AndyRawls]

The jointer is 16” wide. All the lumber I buy from my local hardwood dealer is kiln dried and anything I get from local mills is typically kiln dried but I always put a meter to it to check. When customers supply it I usually have to find a mill to dry it for me.

[@AndrewR74]

Does the jointer have a mobile base, or wheels?

[@TheWanderingOkie]

Good stuff Andy. Like always. Is there anyway you could do a video showing how to tune up and dial in a jointer and a table saw? I’ve got an old powermatic 50 and a Rockwell arbor saw that could use a good tune up

[@AndyRawls]

I don’t have a video on that but Marc over at the Wood whisper has a really good video on setting up a jointer. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYCaZWmZqrekjJY

[@bueller98S3]

Thanks. Are they 220 or 3 phase?

[@seanbrotherton542]

Question. At 4:30 seconds it looks like it shows a pretty large crack in the jointer outfeed table close to the cutter head. I've paused at several points and it looks like a pretty jagged opening. Am I seeing that correctly?

[@williamellis8993]

What do you mean by parallelogram jointer, Andy? Those are great machines - just way too expensive for us mortal woodworkers (hobbyist). Take care. Bill

[@stallionranchwoodworks]

A parallelogram jointer has the beds attached to the head via arms that pivot. The parallelogram shape is changed by screws to move the beds up or down. Most other jointers are wedge type jointers.

[@williamellis8993]

@@stallionranchwoodworks Got it. Thanks. Mine has slides.

[@turbinepower77]

Made in Michigan! 👍

[@Hellcommander245]

I'm still using a Stanley #7 lol

[@AndyRawls]

Haha! I was using mine as well until I got this jointer. Even my old Jet jointer couldn’t get an accurate joint on longer boards, almost always I had to go to the bench to use the hand plane.

[@royreynolds108]

Some time when you get a chance, go over to Keith Rucker's channel at VintageMachinery.org where he rebuilt an Oliver planer run off of a flat belt. It is about 100 years old if not older.

[@swimmer6890]

Do you run 3phase in your shop or do you have vfd’s on your equipment. Still love that old Oliver bandsaw you have.

[@AndyRawls]

I run a 3 phase converter for the the wide belt, S4S, Oliver mortiser and big Oliver bandsaw.

[@jamesogorman3287]

I guess you guys bought every one of these this morning. Both are showing out of stock.

[@andyfortin9209]

@ 4:49 is that a small crack in the out feed table?

[@Monuments_to_Good_Intentions]

That for sure is a crack. Probably why they sent it to a youtuber. As advertisement. 😂

[@AndyRawls]

100 percent not a crack just some dirt go check out my stories👍

[@andyfortin9209]

Just watched it! Glad to see it isn’t a crack. Probably wouldn’t have been a huge deal even if it was but I’m not a metal guy so who knows. Love your channel!

[@kevinwillis6707]

whats the footpedal for? off switch?

[@AndyRawls]

Yup it’s the off switch which is an awesome feature.

[@TheTranq]

They look like great machines. When you joint it seems like you reference the infeed table not the outfeed table as far as where you apply your downward pressure? Big boards doesn’t matter but do you change that for smaller pieces?

[@deaddadd]

This is like someone showing me how great their Ferrari 458 is.

[@jamesmoore1532]

These are Taiwan made units identical to Grizzly. I would say it's more of showing a GM.

[@montet202]

Seen a Martin? These are nice machines, but nowhere near Ferraris.

[@MrJcarrasquillo]

What happened to the s4s machine?

[@AndyRawls]

It’s still there leaking gear oil!!!

[@christianestrada5362]

What are some features you wish the machines had but currently don't? Have you seen these features on other machines?

[@Burdi1415]

Second

[@csarebel8657]

I gotta make a YT channel so I can start getting some machines...

[@mattbowers5342]

Nice machines, likely will outlast you and I combined!

[@Monuments_to_Good_Intentions]

I will trade my 16” jointer for yours! 😂

[@wayphun72]

Well at least it wasn't a space filling video about building a board stretcher....

[@AndyRawls]

What are talking about! That board stretcher was R&D for the shop.

[@jonathanmarcher3053]

First . LOL, had to be before the small kids.

[@adamchesis7443]

Those are named Oliver, they're not Oliver, they bought the name, The real company made some of the finest machinery ever made, They were made in MI, all that stuff now is made in china it's not even close to the same.

[@markkulyas2418]

Thanks for the info, I was hoping they were made in the US :(

[@oliver299d]

@@markkulyas2418 sadly not much is USA made anymore, Northfield still is and I believe Tannewitz still makes some bandsaws here. But if you want USA made you have to pretty much buy used. But the good thing is that if you look they are out there and you can get them, although for whatever reason lately the prices on everything has shot up. you can usually find big older American made Jointers for around $5000, and considering the asian larger machines are almost double that its still a good deal,