A Company Stole My Design... and Started Selling It

[@Foureyes.Furniture]

Thank you for watching everybody. Hope you enjoyed. I decided to blur the images of the other piece. People were reverse image searching and finding and messaging the company. I stand by everything that I said and I believe I gave the most honest and factual account of what happened as I could. But like I said in the video, I don't wish them any negativity. I purposefully did NOT say their names, so my hope is that this will help to keep their anonymity. One other update... they've decided to stop selling the piece. That was their choice. Brass Chunky Mechanical - qwerktools.com/ woodworking plans - foureyes.podia.com/

[@noobtesting]

I got one from the first run, really love this splendid pencil but I will give a bit of a warning to all if you accidently drop it on the tip you will no longer be able to use the pencil so make sure you are careful with it. It is to nice to just turn into a paper weight like I did. Will probably end up buying a new one but we will see.

[@TH-cb9bh]

Consider marketing your pencil also as a setup block - 1/2" square. Or sell as a set, with a second pencil as a 3/8" setup block

[@Foureyes.Furniture]

@noobtesting When we manufactured this time around (much larger than the first run. We ordered more tips than pencils. Email [e-mail] we can get you taken care of.

[@williambloomberg8760]

Splendid video. BTW, in the transcript, they misspelled pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniosis. Longest word in the dictionary! I probable misspelled it too… I love your design style. It’s very similar to my own with clean lines and form follows function philosophy. I won’t be copying any of your designs, but I will most definitely be using a few of your design elements into my own work. Your use of chamfered edges, especially around drawers totally draws the eye to normally boring features of a drawer/door. Nobody else does that! It’s a unique design element that is a signature move. My other woodworking friends all say “why bother”. My customers all love that I took the time to bother. Precisely why I bothered. Love your splendid work, Chris.

[@CNormanHocker]

Did you win the lawsuit?

[@HigorDuarteOficial]

Not gonna lie: I clicked for the drama. I stayed because of the woodwork and calm voice. I’m coming back because of all the wisdom sprinkled throughout the video. I’m subscribing because I lost a bet. You’re splendid!

[@RaccoonHenry]

same 😅

[@2phburns]

splendid

[@Hazed64]

Same here man, love this dudes way of thinking Bros going to be the wisest grandpa ever

[@philomenahearn1717]

Same. I can listen to Chris for hours. Some other You Tubers wind me up with their hyper cheerful constant drivel. I shan’t mention names, but I turn off the sound on them and tend to skip a lot of their content!

[@S.Lang7]

Yep.

[@brianstanley4203]

“I’d rather progress myself than spending time holding someone back… the new version is better than the original.” Some great life lessons in there, Chris. Thanks for the video!

[@09conrado]

Very wise move indeed. Building things and saying goodbye to them as they move out is, as I found, a very good training in letting go of attachment, ego, ownership and all that. A continuing process. But that doesn't mean you should let people just walk over you. Teaching them to give credit where due is not ego but right conduct. I don't get why some prople can't manage to acknowledge someone else's brilliance. It's not like they'd be less themselves if they'd appreciate the great work someone else is doing.

[@bsodmike]

For the record, this was splendid. I want something inspired like this. Thanks Chris.

[@eskamobob8662]

I mean, that's not realy how you get ahead. Protect your work

[@buzoff4642]

@@eskamobob8662 If you want to "protect your work", then go through the trouble and expense of copywriting, and market monitoring. Else, it's just noise. But do realize, there'd be a whole lot coming back, that copywrite's a riff on my ... design lawsuits.

[@stormriderkaos]

Ideas are something you can give away while keeping. Plus those who create keep creating and those who can't may as well make stuff if they can.

[@ajsingh7360]

As a college student, I like watching your woodworking videos after coming back home. There's something very satisfying and calming about seeing a piece come together. Splendid!

[@ylenrams1912]

My uncle died a couple of years back, he was great at making furniture. I used to sit to watch him, sometimes he would let me sand something. It was splendid watching you, for some minutes, you brought me my uncle back.

[@MDoddio]

I see what you did there. 😉

[@underprusher]

Not a lot of youtubers are able to capture the pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis of the woodworking process. That's why your videos stand above the rest. Splendid.

[@wayofthelatebloomer]

Thank you for mentioning the pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis process, so I could just copy and paste in my comment... but in the spirit of this video, I shall attribute the credit to you for taking the time to actually spell it out, splendid!

[@vdis]

Oh man, and I just typed that off the screen

[@Beauvaissbb]

Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis is such a splendid word and this is a splendidly beautiful build!

[@horsetowater]

Only doctors are supposed to know that word! Who has leaked it?

[@luizdejesus6240]

We don't use the splendid "P" word among strangers...

[@anotherday-anotherslay]

Can I just take a second to appreciate not only the fantastic woodworking, but the SPLENDID cinematography that goes into these videos? It's truly an art, and a pleasure to watch!

[@tlvance3973]

Script and wit is pretty splendid too 😂❤😂

[@craftedworkshop]

What a splendid design! 🤫

[@chrisholden2559]

That push stick was especially splendid.

[@TereusHecatonchires]

Oh... I think you wanted to say: What a "pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanconiosis" design! 😜

[@chrisholden2559]

You win the day for transcribing that word.@@TereusHecatonchires

[@Cybornut]

Pneumovolcanicsplendidois

[@metapublic]

as a old school german/bavarian cabinetmaker, with a traditional tuff apprenticeship in solid wood furniture making in the 70's where you still had to say master to your instructor and meanwhile having watched many amateur furniture making youtube videos, i have to say that i am extremely impressed by your work / design and the way you create and comment on your videos. although you could certainly make improvements here and there in the workflow, the way you work and in details in the creation of your furniture, great work you are doing here. keep up the good work, i am looking so forward to your latest videos. i just love to watch your work , amazing

[@stefanhodes9209]

I watch hours of KZbin woodworkers build furniture. And you’re one of the few that actually make beautiful art out of wood. As an Art Teacher and furniture maker, I really appreciate the style and quality of your work both as a videographer and as a designer/artist. Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

[@Foureyes.Furniture]

Wow, thank you!

[@hellogood7239]

no way he talked about an experience, showed us the process of making something and taught us a lesson in one video, thats crazy . What a SPLENDID design

[@Wtfinc]

Yeah I thought the design was quite pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanosisie imo

[@MikeWhitton]

"for the record" that pun was splendid, just splendid. The way you treated the design inspiration was very good of you, and your point about bettering yourself and not wasting more time on that is something to strive for. Keep up your amazing (Splendid) work.

[@Karen-h6f1j]

I'm just watching your videos for the first time and I think your skills, your humor, and the beauty of your work is the reason I feel compelled to show this video to my amazing woodworker husband. I'm saving your, "If your house is old...you'll understand" video as the cherry on the top. What a breath of fresh air. We live in a home built in 1946 where nothing is square; nothing exists that would fit in some of the crazy spaces unless he builds it for me; and I think it would be a splendid way to spend date night watching something great together.

[@thearchibaldtuttle]

Spendit work! "Progressing myself rather than trying to hold somebody else back" -Foureyes. Love this!

[@sagearti9100]

Thanks for quoting that. It is really impactful the way he concluded it. Splendid work indeed!

[@kpprop1]

A little stoicism with your woodworking

[@TheGreatDeceiver42]

Two things I learned from watching this video: 1. Creativity and Copying can go hand in hand 2. Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovocanoconiosis is the longest word ever to be published in the oxford dictionairy What a unique combination of information with varying practicality. Keep up the good work, it's splendid!

[@myrdhina]

You misspelled Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovocanoconiosis. It's: Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis ;)

[@The-Maqer]

dictionairy ?

[@DakiniBrave]

Splendid

[@spanionlust]

oh and i must add as first time commentor on this channel......love the mentor/education/just saying how it worked for them stream of consciousness working through the art.....inspiring..... do we have a video ( i'm lazy and haven't looked yet on how you started and what it takes to get all the 'gear' to setup a shop like this (even if it was just for yourself))......it's just pretty inspiring to say the least and wouldn't mind knowing what's needed to start and then expand a workshop to get to this level....🪵🤟

[@kathleensauerbrei5199]

What a splendid video. Just to confirm, I am female 80 years old and don’t even know how to hold a saw. But I seem to find an unusual pleasure in watching somebody make something that is quite very possibly something I would use in my own home, but am incapable of making myself The design and build process has always fascinated me, and watching how people come to the conclusion is a fabulous thing to know. I think the word you wanted that was seven-hundred letters long was substituted by the word splendid if not, don’t worry, I did watch to the end and I guessed under as far as the weight goes. Have a wonderful day.

[@vilmerostling404]

What a nice lady

[@adamwolven3230]

dude, these videos are soooo good, from several different angles... woodworking, design, film, story, etc. Having the light fade across the finished product at the end is awesome. It allows you to really savor the piece, like it's wine or something. Thanks for the great content.

[@julieshurtliff9409]

Do you mean splendid content

[@mistingwolf]

I love "flaws" in real wood. It's a reminder that this material was once a living thing. It makes it unique and beautiful, in my opinion. I'm glad you decided to leave the bark inclusion intact.

[@gabychuels2955]

Love plant corpse as furniture 😀

[@jobliar937]

Don’t u think it’s splendid?

[@xxDxxism]

@@gabychuels2955hell yea

[@happycolours8551]

Wouldn't you say it's pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis?

[@jobliar937]

@@happycolours8551 quite so

[@floriankolbleitner2372]

Thanks for another Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis video. I am at the very beginning of my woodworking journey, and your videos teach me a lot

[@jacobmoore4665]

did you even watch the video????? ;)

[@floriankolbleitner2372]

@@jacobmoore4665 because of my splendid comment? 😉 Must be coincidence

[@ninjakiwigames5418]

I was looking for someone to type out the whole word!

[@SockMonkeyofcourse]

I find your use of the word a splendid idea!

[@ZirkleWil]

@@ninjakiwigames5418 I was going to pull up the transcript to see it it was there.

[@bgyoshi]

Congrats on being tossed into the algorithm, it finally came my way. Splendid! I used to build custom cabinetry which often included "stuff" cabinets like this and I notice a lot of woodworkers on YT just love doing everything in solid wood regardless of how big, heavy, slow, EXPENSIVE, and sensitive it is. We built nearly everything out of veneer plywood and "surrounded" them with solid end panels to cover the exposed plywood edges and give it the appearance of being crafted from entirely solid wood. It made builds far cheaper, lighter, and with lots of clever little tricks it would look indistinguishable from a completely solid piece. And for dividing interior panels like that, rather than going through the effort of dadoing the interior of the box and cutting a tongue in the divider, we would use these thick sturdy lightweight wires that could be tapped into holes that were drilled into the interior, and would instead run a dado on the top and bottom of the divider that was slightly thinner than the thickness of the wire. The divider would slide in from the front and I tell you it, those dividers did not wobble in the slightest, and there was no time wasted with precise tongue/groove routing; just a square line, some quick holes along it, wires tapped in, fast dado on the top and bottom edges, and slide in. Bam! But, with plywood as a skeleton, we didn't need all the wood joinery tricks, and I know at the end of the day that seems to be the draw of YT carpenters; employing those tried and true old-school tactics with modern tools to craft something tangible and unique. Learn something new, make something that's hard to find at a store or from a larger company, and show off the work proudly. I guess this is a long way to say I guessed over 275lbs. With two 5 foot boards of what looks like 1" thick solid maple, 2 end panels the same thickness, 3 dividers @ 3/4" or so, and an entire drawer of solid maple, I was sure that console weighed closer to 125 lbs and I overestimated the weight of the records as well. Excellent work and glad to see carpentry staying alive

[@frackjohn]

Hey there your comment is so good but unfortunately KZbin's type of font is not helping. It would be better if you made it into video. Thank you.

[@joelweiss3421]

Splendid indeed! I liked it all, the graphics, the humor, the long duration - it easily was the longest KZbin video I've ever watched, no pausing for me, all the time with a huge smile on my face. And I agree, copying is a great way to propel yourself forward, especially if you are stuck. Years ago when I painted, I learned so much from copying Lucian Freud and Wolf Kahn. Thank you again, it was a great way to spend some of my Sunday afternoon.

[@jstnhpkns]

When I first started watching your videos I wasn’t sure as to what in the pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis I was getting into. But, after watching most of your video catalog, I find your work to be splendid.

[@ddjohnson9717]

lol nice words

[@protato4034]

lol pleasant words

[@isturma]

Much like pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis this piece is pretty breathtaking. I like the contrast between the two woods, I like the cutout in the legs (although I think I would've mounted a record on each side) and it's awesome to iterate on a "classic" design to make it better! I also guessed heavier on the weight - I used to help a DJ friend move his record crates, and stacks of vinyl are heavier than you think they would be. Lastly, on the issue of copying... man that's a stumper. On one hand, there's nothing new under the sun. Every idea has been done or thought of before, so it's not really a "rip-off" per se, plus they had to think of a way to mass produce them. On the other hand, there's the email chain with them asking you for permission. In the end though, I think that the right answer was already achieved - you asked for them to credit you, and they did. Mission accomplished.

[@Natt_Skapa]

I didn't expect to see someone incorporate pneu monoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis into sentence properly

[@commehter]

Neither did I. I'm a little impressed.@@Natt_Skapa

[@isturma]

@@Natt_SkapaAh, I have some background in medicine, so I vaguely know what it is.

[@evanjohnson4436]

ten thousand points to hufflepuff for breathtaking

[@ShelXanadar]

This was SPLENDID. Honestly, I really enjoyed your dry humor while creating a physically useful and pleasant to view furniture piece that most people on here wouldn't know the first thing about how to even start creating. Your attitude about people copying pieces is admirable, and if more people would show the grace and respect that you embody, the world would be a better place.

[@goudagirl6095]

I'm not a woodworker by _any_ stretch, but I watched this whole video because I was absolutely fascinated by the detail and effort it took for you to put this piece together (not to mention all the fun 'toys'). And I loved the narration along the way. Personally, I think Steve lost out on this one - it's *SPLENDID!* Really lovely piece, I hope it sold in a heartbeat....and for big bucks! 👍 (BTW, want one of those Brass Chunkies - I may not be a woodworker, but I love a great pen or pencil!)

[@BurlandFeather]

For the record, I bought your “Glen Chair” plans, built, and sold the piece. The first line in the description was giving credit to you guys. I couldn’t see another way that it could have felt right. Being it was my first chair, those plans really held my hand along the way. I can now feel confident going into my own chair build. Thank you.

[@devonwilliams2423]

Not that it’s needed but honestly sense this guy has some big influence in the space *big opinion here * But it could even add value to your product , especially sense this guy has a pretty big catalogue & statistically you’ll have a customer go and look, maybe even contact him; get quoted high asf Then they go back to you and request you to make something they found lol

[@CarlYota]

As an artist, I don't see a problem with this as long as you don't keep making the chair and selling it. Making and selling something once is totally fine even if it's a complete exact copy of someone else's design. As small scale furniture makers we don't often want to keep the stuff we make forever and have to sell it to at least get the material cost back so we can keep making. But mass producing it for a profitable business would be a d**k move in my opinion. If you're at the point of doing that you should be able to design something unique enough or generic enough that it doesn't step on people's toes. Four Eyes and mid century modern are not synonyms. The company in the video could have made a mid century modern record console that didn't rip off Chris and would have sold just as well for them. I guess they didn't have any creative designers on staff.

[@BurlandFeather]

@@CarlYota I completely agree! From the plans they made I acquired new skills. With those new skills I can confidently attempt my own design. Besides... making the same stuff all the time is boring and not very challenging.

[@SgtDuster]

@@CarlYota Sorry but as soon as you give/sell plans for someone else to make stuff that you originally designed, you give them the right to reproduce it. That's the whole point of giving plans. That they sell it or not afterward is their own choice. Unless you specifically state that it's for "personnal use only - no resale permitted". Even then, I'm not sure how it would hold in court. Patents aren't for dogs...

[@fortpatches]

​@@SgtDusterThat's why they shouldn't "sell" plans, but provide a license to the plans for use. But there are other options if he was interested in protecting his designs.

[@chrisbmurphy]

I come for the woodworking, stay for the therapy, and always leave a degree wiser. Another thoughtful and splendid video Chris. Thank you.

[@LuongVC_Entertainment]

When you're bored and KZbin recommends a random video to you, lol. Splendid work, the furniture looks absolutely beautiful.

[@dinkyshopYT]

Architect here who has designed a lot of custom millwork (& does wood sculpture on the side). If you had made the walnut stretchers as plywood (glued up a few thinner pieces of the walnut, perhaps added a bit of depth to the stretcher), then finish the overall pieces same as the single solid wood stretcher, you wd have gained stretcher strength w/ effectively the same sized (single piece appearing) piece. I don’t think the glue up seams wd have been perceptible. Interesting process. Great designs. Glad u like the film editing & design process too. I think all true designers love different aspects of creating a piece. Splendid.

[@findinthelove]

I really appreciate the commentary on copying and parallel thought. So often we think we've got a unique and SPLENDID idea but there's simply far too many folks out there for every idea to be unique. This is the first video of yours I've watched but it's nice to get some philosophical thought and commentary along with satisfying clips of woodworking.

[@JoinRibyl]

Isn’t these DIY channels for copying what they do its basically step by step on how to do what they make in the videos

[@immyjonez]

I love your passion for woodwork, especially your attention to all the pneumonoultramicroscopic details that makes the furniture stand out. Its very heart warming to see the whole product lifecycle / journey. It was like I was in a state of Silicovolcanoconiosis!

[@WalterLoggetti]

I'm not into wood working I'm not into furniture making I click on your video out of curiosity. I stayed for your skills, your tools, your voice calm and relaxed. Splendid. :)

[@dannyallround]

theres another woodworker on youtube that has an insanely calming voice... must be a woodworker trait lol...

[@roychua5947]

Splendid, one of the most beautiful vinyl record cabinets that i have seen. Clean, stylish, practical, sturdy and very well built. Alot of thoughts, heart and soul in this project. First time here, first video i see and immediately subscribed.

[@guerro327]

I hope your woodworking doesn't cause you pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. We love you and having you around for a long, long time would be just splendid.

[@atimholt]

This is a splendid video. I've got a terrible toothache right now, and the dentist isn't open till Monday. A relaxing, satisfying build video is exactly the kind of distraction I need.

[@kenhorner4023]

So I must tell you...beyond saying the mundane "I really like your work", which I absolutely do....that your videos are spectacular for at least several other reasons. They are intelligent....they speak to someone as an adult with adult language and genuine sincerity. They are humble....you seem to view this craft as just that, a truly pure craft that appeals not just to the aesthetic side of making something beautiful, but also to the mindset one ought to have when bringing their creativity to the world....I admire that. Finally, they are "unpompous" (I think I made up this word)....you impress as a teacher to a newer woodworker like me (who is old enough to be your father), but not one who is full of themselves or think they are Gods gift to woodworking. Sorry to prattle on. I'll definitely continue to watch. Gratefully, K

[@wieb83zd]

really also the approach to the project and the story seem similar; just that approach of wanting to build it and giving the buyer first dibs, but no hard feelings if that iterations wasn't for him; that's so much autonomy, which show throughout the storytelling as well; genuine sincerity captures it well. But unpompous is such a nice betrayel of it's own origin as a word; that I'll keep that as a reminder to myself at the back of my brain when working on a project :)

[@cagdasdmr]

You know what please do not change your video style even a little! I found you just today and can't get enough of them! Splendid!

[@TrenchcoatSteve]

"For the record" was a splendid way to end the video. This was the first video of yours that I watched. I guessed over so I subscribed and liked. Wonderful designs, workmanship, and narration.

[@GrabGrammar]

Bro, I clicked the video just to know the design but watched the whole video because it was so satisfying, calm, and creative.

[@jacobmarciniec]

Did you, though? Because if you did, that would be splendid. But if you didn't, why would you lie?

[@layyx]

Did you really watch everything? Or did you accidentally skip the marvelous and splendid work parts?

[@pran0124]

Same! I like the idea of telling a story and talking about a project at the same time!

[@kryceklx]

Always a pleasure to sit back and hear you talking for half an hour while watching splendid designs being shaped out of wood. I built myself a coffee table inspired from your spider table and actually modified it to make it way nicer (read : easier to build for a noob like myself). You're inspiring, keep the pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis vibe going ! (I knew I could copy paste that from another nice comment ;)

[@twoweary]

Good one

[@lisahaapaoja3838]

There’s a really long word I could use to describe how much I love your videos but I’ll 33:30 just go with, they are splendid! I’m not a wood worker, not looking to buy anything, don’t have any cool tools, I just like you. I like your builds and I like your commentary. Thank you for sharing. I liked and I subscribed!

[@ZootC]

It's interesting that this showed you randomly in my feed because the moment you showed your original console I thought " I recognise that!" The reason being is that back around 2009/10 I built almost the identical thing but without the legs/base. Because mine was for the bottom of some floor to ceiling bookshelves meaning that the piece stood by itself on the floor and then four tall bookshelves sat atop of it. I made mine from what them was probably the last available Parana pine available in the UK as it's no longer available due to bans over sustainability. It was beautiful and had some lovely deep reds in that lent itself to just oiling rather than staining. I also left the inclusions and knots in and just epoxied them because they add character and I knew I would be unable to source any more lumber. But yeah, I guess there is little new in design and it's not worth getting upset about seeing your designs on other pieces but when you have directly had contact with a company that then goes ahead and reproduces your work for profit after being told you are not interested in producing more, then that I'd be talking to a lawyer about. Anyway some 15 years later the bookshelves which I built for my aunt are still going strong and just need some Danish mixed with linseed to oil them up once a year. But yeah, that base is almost identical to what I came up with on the fly. ( I did bullnose the leading edges before i finished as it just seemed right at the time. ) Wonderful bespoke pieces you produce.

[@moenytalksonline]

Probably your BEST outro in my opinion. "both officially and for the record". Also, just as a note, copyrights are automatically bestowed. You need not to register them for legal protection. So, technically speaking, if a person decides to 'use' any of your designs for profit - they are supposed to get consent from the creator and or some sort of licensing agreement. Even if they make minor tweaks to the original design, if it can reasonably deceive an unsuspecting consumer - it is enough to obtain an interdict to stop them from using your design. Obviously, this is a more legal route which, honestly speaking, could be more expensive than the piece itself. Herein lies the challenge. But, we LOVE that you are constantly creating and improving and or updating your designs. No offense to the old design but this one is too sweet!!!

[@dosadoodle]

Are you sure that designs like this are copyrightable? I see architecture listed from the government website on copyright as an example of a copyrightable work, but not smaller pieces. The instructions (written or video) to build the piece are certainly copyrightable, but I'm less sure on if the derived object built from such plans is copyrighted. (I think it should be copyrightable, but I also think copyrights should expire after ~25 years, so my suggestions on copyright don't necessarily line up with actual copyright law.)

[@matchstickdesignco]

@@dosadoodleActually, "instructions to build or assemble" an item (also referred to as plans or pattern) are specifically exempted from copyright protection. The exception to this is architectural blueprints.

[@matchstickdesignco]

Copyright does not protect furniture design, unless the piece is so unique that it would be reasonably considered a work of art. A piece of furniture would only be protected by either a patent (utility or design), or trade dress. And again, with a patent or trade dress, the piece would have to be ridiculously unique and immediately associable with the creator in order to be granted protection.

[@taxfraud22]

you forgot the Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

[@lassikinnunen]

This would need a design patent its not a concept protected by copyright. This distinction is important so that you can have 3rd party screws and stuff. You wouldn't want a physical items resemblence to fall under copyright

[@DavidStruveDesigns]

I literally taught myself how to code websites, from scratch, by just copying the code of existing websites and playing around with all of the lines and variables and seeing how my changes affected the home-copy version of the site. Learning is literally all about copying - you learn to talk by copying your parents talking (which is why we end up with the same accent as them), you learn to count and spell by copying what is written on your textbooks or in learning programmes on computers. We learn how to drive a car by watching our instructors and copying what they do, whilst being told the REASONS why they are doing it that way. So yes, copying and then experimenting with that copy is not only an okay thing to do - it's absolutely vital in how the whole process of learning works. And it's not even a uniquely human thing either - a big cat in the wild learns how to hunt by literally watching and copying its parent. BTW, this video was absolutely splendid! And I don't say that about just any video you know! 😁

[@becerraluisc]

I know right, even if with engineering degree copying is SPLENDID way of getting better at sw dev, or anything for that matter

[@nikkan3810]

Respectful mimicry is the basis of most art. And anyway, you'd never end up making 100% identical things if you go all the way and learn the skills.

[@pat4005]

BUT, there is a BIG DIFFERENCE between "copying" as a student, and copying a high-end piece of furniture (or other item or artwork), and then AS A BUSINESS, SELL THE COPIED PRODUCT EN MASS TO THE PUBLIC! Those are NOT THE SAME! So what you gave is not a good example.

[@crzy11000]

@@pat4005 The piece he made was a design inspired by a style of furniture. I have a friend who makes one off furniture in this style and they all look similar with minor differences. His original to me looked a lot like a 60s style record player with storage. Nothing revolutionary. So in reality he copied others for this design just as much as they copied him. These guys think too highly of themselves in my opinion. They should say who inspired it though but so should foureyes furniture.

[@TheTransitmtl]

What are you talking about. Are you talking about the HTML? If you can see the code of a website that website is shit. All code should be obfuscated apart from HTML and CSS which is not code. One is a markup language and the other is a set of styling properties. Playing around with all the lines and variables. What does that even mean???? How did you 1- Get the code of the existing website 2- Once you had the code, how did you deploy it? What type of server did you use for the back end 3- Moving lines of code doesn't change much since almost nothing is functional programming. It's all OOP and functions and methods (not lines) get used when they need to be used by other functions, methods, etc

[@WorldbreakerHulk1390]

Wow! Watching you busy in your workshop is really therapeutic. :) I wish I could do stuff like that.

[@petehurd5301]

splendid, really. had to rewatch the end a few times, because as a record guy I was distracted by the audio equipment and missed how the bark inclusion turned out.

[@mrsawiggins]

I've always loved the word pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. It's truly splendid. I love how the bark inclusion is featured!

[@terencemerritt]

Very nice piece. After going from no home, to finally a place to lay my head. I’ve bought a makita circular saw from a local pawn shop. I love woodworking. I’m going to save every nickel I can to buy me one of these pens to support your channel. You’re my favorite woodworker on KZbin and have helped me through some really really dark times in my life. Thank you Chris, and I give you my word, I’ll buy me one of those pens to support you. It may take me a few months to be able to save that much, but I’ll be super excited to have one. Once again, thanks for being so humble and thanks for helping me, whether you know how much you have or not.

[@citrinesun]

I'm not a woodworker but a designer, and your work recently came into my feed. I am enjoying your dialogue on what it means to be a creative. I never comment on socials, but you inspired me with your pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. :) Thanks!

[@-ltdiy1652]

“For the record”, this video just made my day! Splendid, indeed; Inspiring, truly.

[@Xorthis]

Funny you should mention pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, I actually suffered from this after climbing Mt. Merapi in Central Java back in 2012. Climbed the volcano about three days after an eruption, and there was volcanic dust all over the trail. The climb was tough so I was breathing heavily most of the ascent with no form of dust protection. Two days later I was holed up in bed suffering from a lung infection, thanks to the dust shards. Anyway, great story and I love both the process and the splendid piece! Keep on doing you and stay positive! Your stories of improvement through practice are inspiring!

[@RyanKunzman]

What a "splendid" video. If you happen to read this I would like to say thanks. Your videos have been a big inspiration in my woodworking journey. Watching the videos of you cranking out furniture from your garage to where you are now helps me realize anything is possible. I truly appreciate you sharing your knowledge on KZbin thanks foureyes!

[@amysabpisal]

It's 1 am yet I can't stop watching the process of the pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. Splendid build, it was very intriguing to watch!

[@realspacemodels]

This is the first time I have watched one of your videos. Your work is superb. My son asked me to make a cabinet for the stereo system he inherited from me. I told him I don't have the proper woodworking setup to do that. He said "It's just a box with shelves" To which I replied "A box is really hard to do right". I mean, I don't even have a pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis to begin with.

[@heheimlai]

maybe you could make the cabinets with your son :) no matter how they turn out, he will always remember that

[@ВасилийКоровин-г9э]

You don't have a pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis? Splendid!

[@seanhollandcanada]

I'm a big fan of including "imperfections" like bark inclusions, knots, etc.. Wabi sabi, man. I think the bark inclusion in your piece is SPLENDID. Even pneumoblogolyxicalifragilistic....

[@JesseClaus]

I saw a review in a guitar woodworking section where someone ranted about an “imperfection” in his high end guitar neck. It was, in fact, likely a bark inclusion. I thought it looked lovely:)

[@Frosty3k]

The fact that you chose not to be bothered by it, inspires me. What you said about choosing to continue your own development rather than hindering someone else's is the best call anyone could make. Choices like this got you where you are now. Im a long time watcher and i learn a lot from your designs. If i might offer a lil piece of advice: instead of screwing in those two small pieces to keep the drawer from tipping over, you could have placed just one piece on the top-back side of the drawer. And it would interact with the divider that is just above. The two pieces are visible under some angles and could take a lil bit away from the very well thought off design. Wish you all the best man, good health for you and your family ! so you may continue this wonderful journey you have :)

[@UPWNU]

Such a splendid design and articulation! It reminded me of my great grandmother's original record cabinet every time my family & would visit her. I think you managed to capture the old-style feel of a record cabinet with wonderful modern inclusions and artistic flare. Amazing video, Chris!

[@supercleaner]

I love your designs as they are deceptively simple. Also, my compliments on not freaking out over a company copying your design. There are few people on YT who are as engaging and as insightful as you, so I'm happy to have found you doing what makes you happy. Thanks for all you do to instruct the rest of us.

[@EvulOne42]

You being the bigger man speaks volumes of your character. They stealing a design isn't vool at all but at least they give you credit for it now, which may give you well deserved customers in the long run. You make spectacularly beautiful things! I must now prescribe to your channel to see more to inspire me, even if I don't have nearly the same skill or tools. When my back allows me to do something, it's handmade through and through, often inspired by the medieval or viking era, unless I'm forging knives (Damascus) but I'm in too much pain for the latter. I'm still hoping to be well enough to do that in the future, though. So, to at least watch others doing their thing is a sirt😮of comfort. Keep it up! Superbly done, Mr!

[@TheRE1VAX]

Why is this video so good?, no for real? Like calming expository information on copying in your personal story, while watching a master pour over his craft. I really love this video. Not loud or stupid. Its perfect. Splendid.

[@Tysto]

Too many people think their ideas are precious. But ideas are a dime a dozen. Splendid execution is precious. Yes, it's better to be creative & execute your own ideas, but virtually everything is inspired by something else, & virtually no one wants to copy someone else exactly anyway.

[@Elektrotechniker]

@@ShenanigansTV Besides China!

[@daniel4647]

@@ShenanigansTV Better than Amazon.

[@ShenanigansTV]

@daniel4647 both are shit, but at least amazon will have original creators and authors for it's products. So they dont JUST want to copy

[@peepopalaber]

There is a difference of being inspired by and by blatantly copy it and MASS produce it. Nobody would cry a river when its just a one off.

[@AllGoodOutside]

I once dated a woman who was the first female international bartending champion in history and among other things she taught me something that never occurred to me before, which was it is impossible to create a completely original unique cocktail using normal ingredients and alcohols found in even the most high-end bars and bartenders who create new drinks with fancy names are basically just recreating something that has already been invented. And she was right.

[@tonybrock5288]

And the choice of Joe Jackson's "Look Sharp" and that iconic album cover was Splendid too!

[@ChrisMeade18]

Came to the comments to see who caught the album choice. Splendid job @tonybrock5288

[@rswearing]

One of your best videos to date. Beautiful piece, and the bark inclusion was [chef's kiss]. But the pacing and the writing on the narration were splendid. Leaving and coming back to different topical threads makes this feel like an organic conversation over a beer instead of a tutorial video. Also, we need more Delores.

[@michaelhumes5446]

Completely agree with the pacing and narration. Really enjoyed this splendid video and look forward to more videos with this format. Thanks Chris!

[@kentlong145]

Agreed more Delores

[@romeorobles226]

I really enjoyed this record player build. As a brand new woodworker who has been spending more time building my workshop rather than working on projects, I find inspiration in your videos. Your designs are splendid-so intricate that they almost seem as detailed as trying to pronounce pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis! I’ll definitely be borrowing some of your design elements when I have more skills under my belt.

[@MirelCical86]

I think this is my first video about woodworking that i did not skip 1 sec. of. It was SPLENDID. i loved it!

[@dreed5530]

This was a splendid build not affected by pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. I don't even do woodworking but I do enjoy watching your videos. I'm sure the new owner of this piece is thrilled with the details & quality. Thanks to you & Delores for sharing. Best to you both.

[@mongoblin]

Woah! This piece is amazing, just like the longest word in the dictionary: pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. I love the additions of mark inclusions and mineral deposits in furniture. Two tricks that I use when including them are instead of using just black epoxy, I use coarse walnut dust and 5-minute 2-part epoxy and mix it to a chewed Tootsie Roll consistency. The other is using Naphtha to reveal how the area would look after finishing if you were to oil and wax, or oil and lacquer the piece. the best part about Naphtha is that it dries quickly and leaves the wood as it looked before. Keep up the great work!

[@leehaelters6182]

My dad passed this one on to me years (years!) ago: polymorphonuclearneutrophilicleukocytosis, after which I made a model of polymorphonuclearneutrophilicleukocytes for a high school science project. At the time, it may have been the champ, but now I see it falls short of the heavyweight belt by five letters. All that's left is a one way ticket to Palookaville.

[@PlayGrum]

the longest word in the dictionary is elastic, it gets bigger and bigger

[@leehaelters6182]

@@PlayGrum, uh-uh. Smiles, because there is a mile between the two s's.

[@TheQuiltingLunchLady]

It’s five months after the video posted and it was splendid!! Jokes aside, this piece is beautiful. I do not own a record player and vinyl any more, but would have loved something like this when I did. The proportions are nice and the chamfering is a nice touch. I might have added a few walnut inlay details to the drawer front and edges of the dividers to add a little more visual interest, but overall that would have been a detail as a client I would have liked and everyone always has something they would do different, which is what makes wood working so interesting to watch. Your commentary and design process is great and you have made a new subscriber in me. Now when I get more time, I get to watch all your earlier videos. Thank you for great content and a solidly produced video.

[@emiltoteb]

I loved hearing your thoughts on copying, stealing and inspiration when it comes to your designs. What a splendid video! Great done 4e!

[@DistMod]

First time that I'm watching one of your splendid videos. It is very well thought, well filmed, well narrated. I really liked how I spent that last half hour! Thanks!

[@aieeejo]

I was... impressed? surprised? ... that the term MCM was never mentioned in the splendid design. I LOVE that cabinet, and would dig out my old turntable, and unbox my cache of 30, 40, 50 year old albums just to show off the furniture! Excellent job, sir! I was apprehensive about sitting through the video when I saw its length, and before I knew it, it was over. Thanks for my best lunch break in a few weeks!

[@jnunez247]

For the record, That is a splendid design. It has a modern 80's feel. And I love that they actually gave you design credit.

[@atbattson]

A splendid video. I appreciate the care and thought you put into all of it, not just the furniture,. From the varied timelapse video positions to the thoughtful overall narrative to the animations and renders etc etc. Thanks for sharing. Keep up the pride in you good work.

[@SethFowler]

So hyped about that thumbnail shout out 🙏🏻😂 splendid

[@Foureyes.Furniture]

Haha. All praise to the KZbin recommendations on the home page

[@hannahdeforest9148]

One of my favorite quotes from Anne of Avonlea is "Imitation is the highest form of flattery" I love your perspective on copying and especially when it comes to selling designs based on other people's work. This cabinet was absolutely splendid. I guessed over 275 pounds, but I had already liked and subscribed. 😅

[@ktulu193]

Did you know the quote goes on to say "that mediocrity can pay to greatness"? That just knocks it out of the park imo

[@BooRadleyTube]

L.M. Montgomery was quoting a proverb that had been in use for some time by the time Anne of Avonlea was written.

[@BooRadleyTube]

@@ktulu193 That's Oscar Wilde's addition to a proverb that was already in existence.

[@ashleysingh9043]

I’m not a person, who knows anything about wood and woodworking. But I do love pieces that are made from quality wood and constructed meticulously. Thoroughly enjoyed this SPLENDID video and your process. Truely inspirational, wish I lived near you to get you to do pieces for me, I’m from South Africa …

[@kyledockins5801]

I will say I have such a Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis time while watching you design and execute your ideas. I my self have just started a hopefully wonderful journey in woodworking and get so much relaxation from doing it thank you again for your work and inspiration

[@williammaxwell1919]

You really don't want to have a "Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis time"; it's not nice

[@-D0uble0-]

I don't usually watch woodwork videos, but I'm glad youtube recommended this to me. It's so therapeutic! Splendid!

[@BuffaloWarrior7]

Splendid work! Love that youtube is suggesting all these longer form woodworking videos!

[@alainyap193]

Into records, design, basketball but not really a craftsman but found this video meditative and inspiring. Splendid!

[@juneritchie2498]

pneumo... err... SPLENDID! Seriously, I always enjoy watching your videos and appreciate your woodworking aesthetic and product designs. By the way, that is "officially and for the record." 😊

[@Garrett_Brown]

What he said but for the record line was way way too cheesy 🤣

[@barbarakinsey2789]

I am glad the company is giving you credit. Splendid.

[@seephor]

They say imitation is the greatest form of flattery. Not only that but I think it's an ego boost as well.

[@TheMongooseOfDoom]

Yeah, but a 5%-10% share in the sales price would be better. Maybe in exchange for pointers and his stamp of approval. He likes making uniques, and they are in the business of making small runs. Some people will want the exact same as the one in the video, so the two companies could very well profit off each other.

[@kestertroy]

I'm not even a wood worker yet I benefits from your philosophical values in integrity and original creativity.

[@tyoung1687]

There is something special about watching your videos, maybe even mesmerizing. And then it struck me, you have a twin, an equally creative KZbinr out there…Baumgartner Restorations. I’ve done some wood working and taken classes, but am not planning to assemble a shop and build my own creations. It’s the creative process that fascinates me and you fully embrace that process and share it in a meaningful and insightful way. Exactly the same as your Baumgartner twin. Thank you, keep it up and I will keep watching. And if you haven’t, watch one of the Baumgartner Restorations videos, to meet your twin. 😊

[@Kelvallontan]

Hey Chris, I have a problem with your gentleman agreement : I've already clicked the like button from about 1/3 in, but I guessed wrong, and I don't plan on clicking off that like ( because it was spontaneous move). So you know it. I am also building myself a desk, and took a lot of features off your Desquire design ( mainly the cabinet), whith a totally different set of feet. As a beginner woodworker, thanks a lot for sharing your processes and results so openly. You are a real source of inspiration.

[@KoenvanderKouwe]

I have sortoff the same problem. I was wrong so now i have subscribe….but that means i have to unsubscribe first. And my second problem is i dont know where to put the word splendid into my previous sentence.

[@Kelvallontan]

@@KoenvanderKouwe Exactly!

[@Firecat_23]

On the note of learning from copying, it's a tale as old as time, and like you said, legitimately a really good technique to get better. It's actually one of the earlier functions for art museums, which would make works accessible for students to go study, and reference (and essentially make their own copies from) as a way to learn different techniques and styles.

[@nigeltechnz]

Not sure but I think this is where the term masterpiece came from originally

[@MazeFrame]

There is a documentary (originally a talk) called "Everything is a Remix", it makes some good points.

[@alanchoy6250]

I think incorporating the bark inclusion was a great decision. I'm no designer, but it speaks to me. It's authentic, one of a kind and adds character. Great work and a joy to experience your journey! Forgot to say SPLENDID🎉

[@steeldemonmeets]

I agree. Seeing it in the showcase gives it more a unique detail that makes it 1 of 1.

[@JoNo_TRydz]

This is the reason foureyes is on my top 5 wood working channels. Great designs even better wisdom.

[@emmonaghan5605]

I massively respect your ability to be at peace with someone nicking your design. You’re a bigger man than I cos I’d be pissed! Also your videos are splendid ❤

[@CarlYota]

It also helps that there's nothing you can legally do about it. At some point you have to take the stoics' advice and let go of things you can't control. Anything else is an insane reaction if done long term. All you do is make your life experience suck. As they say, it's like drinking poison and expecting your enemy to die. There's really no sane choice but to be at peace with it.

[@jeremyllewellyn]

One of my favorite narratives on KZbin I've ever listened too. Thanks for the refreshing thoughtfulness. Keep up the passion

[@leos.8440]

Absolutely love the design. It looks splendid! The idea i had which i would (as a minimalist) prefer for the accessibility of the brass rod would be to just make the groove a bit deeper on one end so you can push down on the rod and it lifts up on the other side.

[@davidobrien1489]

Love the splendid humour and the great makes. A skilled and accomplished guy yet still modest and sometimes painfully honest. Defo watch more.

[@mrmoto7682]

Pneumo…Splendid. This is the ‘thinking man’s’ woodworking channel. Really wonderful and thought-provoking stuff. Thank you Chris!

[@locomokko]

Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis was the name of my first dog. We called her Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolano for short. I like to think of myself more as an insane artist first, and someone who builds stuff second. I don't know if I should be a "furniture maker", but I have picked up a lot from your videos so far. I'm not a "work from plans" kind of guy. I like to visualize it and then build it. I just wanted to mention how I like how you have rationally through through the points of "stealing ideas" versus independent thoughts, and credit where credit is due. And to this piece, while I don't do vinyl either, it is a very nice piece. I could see this being a very cool TV stand as well. I really like the walnut vs. oak contrast. Nice work. Scott from Japan

[@Foureyes.Furniture]

Thank you Scott from japan. Appreciate the kind words. Please give Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolano my best

[@derekfaneros6214]

love your attitude, letting others copy you and copying others, sharing and giving designs for others to enjoy is how the world should be. being the change you wanna see in the world👏 rainbows and flowers and sunshine. Splendid design

[@jamesmorrison7989]

Company should have absolutely just given you credit with an “inspired by foureyes” tag on that piece. I think that’s a more than fair agreement and I’d be happy to do that if I was them

[@geoffcraz]

As a musician, and a woodworker for a living, I can’t help but think of all the parallels and analogies that the two maintain. Your description on learning, copying, experimenting, and even the ethos of your business dealings and mindset, what a splendid essay on what it’s like to pursue a creative outlet

[@SkyHighaviation13]

Honestly, pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis is a splendid word!

[@miriamrobarts]

16:24 Actually, it would make you the record sleeve, since that's what the rod is supporting. (Technically, she'd be the rod & the groove, since neither one really supports anything by itself. Unless you're talking about the two of you working in tandem, but that would be a splendid project where you work equally together, and here she was just helping out for a bit - but you just wanted to make a joke.)

[@jwvandegronden]

9:12 I love the most that abomination!! Please elaborate on this splendid design in future projects! PS I love listening to you sharing your inner dialogue, the contemplations and doubts. Your vulnerability is a breath of fresh air and elevates your approach to your craft to a level well surpassing that of a hobbyist or an artisan woodworker. Even though your techniques might not be fully fleshed out yet, like one of the commenters posted _(I can't judge, to me you are an artist/designer with high attention to detail)_ your artistic compass seems to be aimed at your true north and that makes all your designs absolutely breathtaking!