A Complete Unknown Review - An Overhyped Bob Dylan Biopic Starring Timothee Chalamet

[@PriceofReason]

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[@johnnada6855]

I think that the movie is ok but the most important thing is that BOB DYLAN allowed for people to make movies about him, his organization is very tight in securing his image, and that´s the problem of this movie, is all about selling the icon but not showing the man., in that regards i really would like a movie about Phil Oachs cause his life really was a tragedy, he was a cursed artist

[@PriceofReason]

That's interesting. I think you may be on to something when it comes to Dylan's image.

[@frankkovacs6214]

Spot on take. I'd love to have seen a movie about the Last Days of the Beats in NYC, how the commercialization of their lifestyle and music led to the destruction of a once-vivid place where you needed no money and could sleep on people's floors (Dylan actually did) and sing for change just starting out. By the end of the decade, the village was a tourist trap and you needed a fortune just to buy lunch. THAT would have been a good movie. But it was not on the screen. Shucks.

[@PriceofReason]

Yeah your idea would have been cool. Hope you're already subbed

[@charlesmashburn364]

Did he say Woody Gunthrey?

[@PriceofReason]

Yes. I made a mistake. It's Guthrie not Gunthrie as I had mistakenly pronounced it.

[@aaronstanley35]

I liked the movie. First of all I'm a huge Dylan fan and have been most of my life. And secondly I've never seen anything with charlemet in it. I've heard his name before but this was first film I've seen

[@rindordrums]

Well, I liked the movie. Probably because I was there. I doubt you were. I was born in 1950. This movie took me back to some of my fondest memories. Movies aren't just about the acting, editing or directing, etc. Mostly they're about how they make people feel. This one made me feel good.

[@PriceofReason]

That's fair and as somebody that has lived in NYC many years ago, I did enjoy the West Village atmosphere and period piece setting of the movie. I said that in the review as well. Just thought it could have been better.

[@rindordrums]

@@PriceofReason Understood. ;)

[@Jared_Wignall]

I haven’t seen this film since I’m not a fan of Bob Dylan’s music, but I also am not a huge fan of Timothée Chalamet. He’s a fine actor, but he’s one of those guys who is hyped up as if he’s unbelievable at everything he does and yet I feel he’s alright and maybe even someone else could have played his character in some of the films he’s in as he wasn’t as exceptional as people say. Having said all that, Bob Dylan is an interesting person, even if I’m not a big fan of the guys music and I felt that someone else should have played him from the moment it was announced who was playing Dylan, though I can’t think off hand who in their 20s or early 30s could have played Dylan, of course if the writing was better as you say it’s not great then maybe Chalamet would be more convincing as Dylan. I like the other performers quite a bit, particularly Edward Norton, even if he is someone who isn’t the easiest actor to work with as he’s known to clash with directors. Thank you for giving your thoughts on this film as I know this film got a lot of praise, but I was curious as to how it actually was beyond what mainstream critics say. I also noticed not too long ago that Adrien Brody beat Timothée Chalamet at the Golden Globes for Best Actor in a Drama in the 3½ hour film The Brutalist. I’ve not seen The Brutalist but it’s quite interesting that the first major award ceremony as we get to the Academy Awards has come and gone while this film doesn’t seem to have won anything at the Golden Globes. Many people wanted to see Chalamet to win, but it may be for the best he didn’t win and perhaps if what “awards experts” say is correct, then maybe Brody will win his second Oscar. Maybe Norton will finally win an Oscar for his role in this film, he’s a good enough actor to get one, but with how the Academy can be, the best often lose or aren’t even nominated in the first place. Thanks for your review Price, Happy 2025 and have a great night!

[@PriceofReason]

Thanks Jared! I think Norton is worthy of an award for this movie but the movie itself is flawed so not sure he'll actually win. Chalamet performance falls short and it would really surprise me if he won major awards but I suppose anything is possible.

[@joshuacalkins]

Award ceremonies love to honor their favorite people, so I bet they like effeminate modern Timothee better than the complicated and difficult Edward Norton., but it’d be nice to honor quality.

[@Jared_Wignall]

@@joshuacalkinsthat’s a good point. If someone is difficult to work with, regardless of the quality of their work, it’s quite likely they’ll be passed over.

[@Jared_Wignall]

@@PriceofReasonI always thought Norton would be the best performer in the film, since Norton has always done quality work and I think you’re right that Chalamet likely won’t win any awards, but strange things do happen with award ceremonies like Oscars. I’ll likely check this film out sometime, probably when it’s streaming.

[@joshuacalkins]

Tim might be one of those actors I’d enjoy more if I didn’t recognize him. He was a decent Paul Atreides, so all the more reason I don’t want to taint those movies by getting more perspective on him. Not a huge Dylan fan, but I have loved learning a few classics like All Along the Watchtower, Times they are A’changin, Desolation Row and of course some Traveling Wilburys.

[@PriceofReason]

Dylan is a great songwriter!

[@scbs7768]

I thought it was very good acting and the movie was good but I feel like the plot of the movie was just kindve without a direction. I guess the title is a complete unknown which is why they never really make it too personal and feeling like you get to know Dylan in the movie much

[@guygadbois3010]

On the one hand, I'm glad to see movies like this that aren't yet another corporate product of a tired franchise. On the other hand, it seems like an unimaginative genre biopic stroking a celebrity from the 'approved' list, and I'm frustrated wondering where this version of Mangold was when it came to Indy 5. Maybe I'm just cynical, or maybe I've consumed too much media, but I'm just so bored . . . I can't think of the last time I saw an original idea from Hollywood, and I'm sort of past anime and K-dramas, etc., as well. What does that leave? Anyway, cheers and thanks for the video!

[@PriceofReason]

Thanks Guy and yeah, there aren't a lot of great movies to watch these days unfortunately

[@berserkasaurusrex4233]

Watch old films and shows. They were better acted and better written, and in most cases far better directed, than almost every modern film.

[@dinobarletta9670]

Happy new year mate Love the reviews

[@PriceofReason]

Thanks Dino! Happy New Year!

[@janette2422]

I may detest Dylan's music (isn't my thing) but I would have seen this but for a couple of concerns. I find that most biopics tend to gloss over too much and especially this seems true when it comes to historical icons. I know people may say that I'm not allowed to judge the movie because I don't like the music, but I can separate my feelings and focus on the movie itself. I really don't think Tim has EVER been cast in anything that meets his own specific needs/style, either. I had bet that this movie wouldn't hit hard with Bob's beginnings and it seems like I was right XD Lovely review, Price! Always appreciate your candidness as well as your charity toward the actors and actresses.

[@PriceofReason]

Thanks Janette! I always appreciate your comments and feedback. I think that Bob Dylan's biggest strength has always been his songwriting skills. As a performer I could see how he'd be considered more of an acquired taste.

[@janette2422]

@@PriceofReason Very much agree on this score. I won't knock lyrics; it's only the style I didn't like. I make the same argument with Neil Young from Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young. His art style isn't my favorite but a lovely song writer nonetheless.

[@johnmacdonald1878]

I like Dylan's music particularly when someone else sings. I get it it though why go see a movie about music you don't like? The music was a huge part of why I enjoyed it. Especially since it wasn't just about Dylan, Pete Seager and Woody Guthrie, even if it was fudged a bit for dramatic effect were great, 😀

[@standardsal]

I agree with this take. I saw it twice and agree it was a wasted opportunity. Yes, it was an enjoyable film--I love the subject matter--but I wish all that acting, camera, costumes and set dec talent went towards a better script.

[@PriceofReason]

Great minds think alike. Hope you're already subbed to my channel then

[@GoddessOfWhim2003]

sounds like a recommendation...for I'm Not There from 2007. where different actors and actresses playing Dylan

[@PriceofReason]

I actually haven't seen I'm Not There. It sounded weird and annoying so I skipped it. Lol

[@GoddessOfWhim2003]

@PriceofReason me neither but i heard great things about Cate Blanchett's turn.

[@PriceofReason]

I generally like her as an actress but I can't envision her as Bob Dylan.

[@cryptofan8099]

I totally disagree with your appraisal of Timothy Chalamet. I think he is one of the most talented actors alive today. I loved his Wonka movie.

[@johnmacdonald1878]

You don't like it. Ok everyone gets to have an opinion. I do agree Edward Norton hit it out of the park. I went to see it, enjoyed it, Far as I am concerned. Worth the price of admission. I lived through the 60's but wasn't old enough to care. Sang most of their songs as a cub scout. Dylan and the rest were before my time. I sat through all the credits just to listen to his stuff. An older lady did the same and had to tell me the first time she ever did. She was about my age. Kumbaya. 😀

[@PriceofReason]

I actually never said that I didn't like it. I said the movie could have been better. In any case thanks for watching my review

[@laurenmasters]

Timmy is great in the right role. This might not be that role

[@PriceofReason]

Fair enough. I think I don't prefer roles where he's trying to emulate others like Wonka and Dylan. Otherwise he could probably be ok. I thought he did better in Dune movies although he's still not necessarily my favorite actor.

[@paulcoder4530]

Woody GuNthry??? WTF?

[@PriceofReason]

Sorry you are correct. I made a mistake. It's Guthrie. I admit I'm not a folk expert. I was familiar with Pete Seeger and with Bob Dylan but not with Guthrie prior to watching the movie. You are correct though.

[@IndiephantomSofaSinema]

Omigod, I just heard about this film today didn't know it was James Mangold. I can't do it. Chalamet and Mangold are on my blacklist, and that list is growing! Haha. Also, no interest in Dylan or his music.

[@andyinoregon]

For God' sake, the crappy A.I. voice on this video pronounces Woody Guthrie's last name as "Gunthrie." All of the actors in this film do their own singing and playing, which raises the degree of difficulty in preparing for their roles way beyond any of their fellow nominees this awards season.

[@PriceofReason]

I assure you it is my voice and there's no AI involved. I mispronounced the name Guthrie. I accept that but it's a mistake that I made and nobody else.

[@andyinoregon]

@@PriceofReason The narration is so unnaturally rapid-fire that most listeners will assume it's A.I.

[@PriceofReason]

Sorry to hear that but it's really me. I do cutout long breaks and stuff in the audio but otherwise I guess I was just reading it fast. I try to give people a lot of information in a short amount of time. In any case thanks for watching and thanks for your feedback. I hope that aside from the Guthrie mispronounciation you enjoyed the review.

[@andyinoregon]

@@PriceofReason Thanks for the quick replies. I can understand wanting to relay as much info as possible in under 7 minutes.

[@TheREALSeanKrummel]

I had been missing the Awesome BRUMMMMM outro

[@PriceofReason]

It's baaaaaack lol

[@oscarpinillacastro5893]

Timmy has NO gravitas. You nailed it.

[@PriceofReason]

Yep

[@johnnymanke]

I feel like your previous perception of Timothy Chalamet got in your own way during this. If you see a "soy latte kardashian dude" then yeah you can't buy him as Dylan, but as someone who didn't even know he was dating a kardashian before this, I thought he did have a good enough edge to him for me to get his role and what it represented. Also who cares if he drinks lattes and dates a really hot celebrity? Dylan has like 7 kids he's had plenty of love affairs and probably drinks lattes too

[@frankowalker4662]

I was never a Dylan fan.

[@PriceofReason]

Fair enough

[@marcillioficino4663]

They could have cast a much more believable actor than Chalamet. He looked way too boyish for the role, IMO.

[@PriceofReason]

I tend to agree

[@oliveeisner8964]

No. Bob was literally a boy. 20 when he stepped foot in NYC. 24 when he went electric. THAT is literally why people were shocked by his output. Chalamet looking young with a similar jaw was probably the only skilled enough actor who looks that young- who could have played this role. Geez.

[@scbs7768]

Dylan was and looked like a boy at this stage in his career. Chalamet actually was a good casting choice for the look. Huge Dylan fan so I am familiar with bob’s early career

[@marcillioficino4663]

@@oliveeisner8964 Nah, Chalamet is too pretty.

[@oliveeisner8964]

@marcillioficino4663 maybe just a wee bit, but he nailed the character. He learned guitar and harmonica over five years and his singing captures many of Bob's idiosyncrasies too. It's Hollywood. Not too many young men with high experience to carry a lead role like this. Anyway the real Bob liked it so.

[@cybersonic8472]

I actually thought Timothy was the one saving grace of the Wanka film as he gave a great performance, my main reason for skipping this is unlike walk the line I just don't have a big connection to Dylan

[@PriceofReason]

I didn't like him in either film but he was ok in Dune.

[@mikesilva3868]

Great 😊

[@PriceofReason]

Thanks Mike!

[@Youcantleavethisempty01]

Click baiting your video with the tired old "hyped or over-hyped?" trope is so boring. Who cares about hype? Do you always base your opinion based on the opinions of others? Just judge the movie based on its on merit. If you disagree with a review, then respond to points in said review point-by-point. Borinngggggggg

[@interstellarconundrum4774]

Never liked Dylan's voice, but hugely respected his ability as a song writer. Unbelievable talent in that regard! Having said that, Dylan was not an attractive man. To have him played by a pretty boy is absurd. Plenty of actors out there with looks that would be far closer to Dylan. In fact, this should have been a search on the part of the filmmakers. Not to pick the latest popular flavor of the last few years and ignore what made Dylan a talent and definitely a peculiar looking one at that. It's about the whole package, not who's the most popular actor at the moment. I will not watch. Mainly because Chalamet is a distraction not an embodiment.

[@PriceofReason]

I agree with you. They probably felt obligated to cast somebody like Chalamet because they figured the ladies would buy tickets to see him. Finding an unknown may have been a better idea as you said, at least artistically.

[@oliveeisner8964]

Dylan was kind of cute when he was younger. A bit scrawny, but he had attitude. It was a great movie. Even my Gen Z son loved it. He spontaneously clapped! And he only has a passing familiarity. I however, know more nuance and detail about Dylan as is possible and trust me- Chalamet nailed it. The mannerisms, vocal idiosyncrasies everything.

[@scbs7768]

I think he looks pretty similar to young Dylan in the movie but I agree. Dylan was totally the Bieber of his day however before the Beatles. I don’t mean Bieber musically because bob dylan was iconic and an extremely talented musician and Bieber not so much, however the level of fame Dylan had especially with the ladies was actually on the level. He was seen as a rebel, a living icon, a bad boy for the day so women loved him and he’d be swarmed by people wherever he went.

[@interstellarconundrum4774]

@@oliveeisner8964 Thanks. You actually convinced me to see the movie. I love biopics anyhow.