A Crashed German Bomber's Final Stand - True Story of Battle of Graveney Marsh

When a crashed German Junkers Ju-88 goes down over England in a bombing raid during the Battle of Britain, a strange story unfolds. The Battle of Graveney Marsh takes place when this German bomber decides to fight back in attempt to conceal top secret intel. This was made using the World War II flight simulator IL-2 Sturmovik Great Battles series. Hope you enjoy! Please like, comment, and subscribe.
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[@TJ3]

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[@CVwritinganovel]

Suggestion: i would like to suggest Richard Halsey Best

[@RaptorTroll360]

@TJ3 History "London Irish Rifles enjoying a pint at the local pub." Early in the morning? Typical Irish.

[@philharris999]

A couple of things worth mentioning here I think. One is that the machine gun fire from the plane was directed far over the heads of the approaching troops, who were actually billeted at the pub, not drinking there. The German crew were buying time, and not trying to hurt anyone. The troops who first approached the plane had not even bothered to take their rifles with them as no one expected any trouble from the Germans. The crew were aware that if they had actually hit one of the soldiers coming towards them it would have certainly ended badly for them. The soldier who translated the chat from the Germans was a Pole who had been attached to the London Irish when he escaped to Britain in 1939. In 2011 the London Irish had a ceremony at the pub to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the encounter. I was lucky enough to meet a couple of people who had witnessed the event itself, including a man who, as a young boy, had watched the Germans arriving through an open window of the pub. He told me that the Germans were bought a round of drinks and offered some of their insignia and badges as souvenirs to the Irish. I have been the Landlord of the pub (The Sportsman) since 1999.

[@isntezbncheezy7326]

Thanks!

[@mattandrews8528]

I love how the internet allows gems of a story such as this from people connected to it in any way. Neat. Hopefully this’ll get pinned.

[@TurboMountTV]

I would have a tough time being nice to people who were trying to drop bombs on me and my family.

[@poruatokin]

Thank you for correcting the story and adding vital new information. I have completely given up on this channel, his videos are basically fairy tales.

[@Londubh1]

@@TurboMountTV Now you know how the average German felt about the English.

[@warpartyattheoutpost4987]

"They shot down the bomber gently." Priceless!

[@letoubib21]

Die Zärtlichkeit der Wölfe That's a German movie directed by Ulli Lommel *. ..*

[@vivians9392]

How do you shoot down any aircraft gently? Impossible.

[@theholypeanut8193]

Thats like saying: "Explode a nuclear warhead gently"

[@johnharrop5530]

In a battle North Africa the Germans and Allied forces shared a hospital together and during the battle if the white flag came up both sides streacher bearers came in and picked up the wounded and afterwards the battle would continue, you have to take your hat of too Rommal, he was a true gentleman

[@TurboMountTV]

And most definitely not a Nah Zee

[@mikeromney4712]

At the beginning of the war the Germans still had a very England-friendly attitude. The majority really did not want a war against England. Even Hitler said, "I have nothing moral to gain from this war against England - they are so much like us." That changed noticeably with the start of the war against the USSR, when the British were still not ready to make peace and practically hindered the struggle for survival against Bolshevism in their backs with their increasing nightly bombing terror against the cities, so that the mood slowly turned. The war became more and more brutal and total ...

[@hypedpanther6464]

Just remember, Lots of things about Rommel were lies.

[@HamburgerTime209]

He fought for the Nazis, was a close personal friend of Hitler’s, was a shameless self promotor. To quote @dril “You do not, in fact, have to hand it to ISIS”

[@akulkis]

This was common between the Germans and the western allies throughout the war, even into 1945. Most atrocities were committed by rear echelon types, not front line units.

[@panzerivausfg4062]

Dr. Mark Felton made a video about this story some months ago and it was really nice to watch this from the game's perspective...

[@yardeevon713]

L

[@lancelotkillz]

Link

[@panzerivausfg4062]

@@lancelotkillz Search it, it's not so difficult, I can't sent links from the mobile

[@lancelotkillz]

Yes huh. .hehehe I'll find it

[@johndowe7003]

These copy cat channels are riding marks coat tail lol

[@tomjustis7237]

The British soldiers welcomed the prisoners to their country by treating them to drinks and having a pleasant meal together at a nearby pub before turning them over to the M.P.s. That is exactly the kind of "British attitude" that causes this old "Yank" to respect and love his Brit cousins! BTW, I would LOVE to be able to see the looks on the faces of the bartenders and waitresses in that pub when THAT group came in, took tables and called for service! Bet they were absolutely PRICELESS!!!

[@norrinradd3549]

The one(which was actually ten) reason, why the nazi aircrew were looked after by the British public, after they were shot down, was the £10-0s-0d which they got, for every pow that the authorities could interrogate..!..!..!.. Because, there was a few cases of pilots/aircrew being finished off, and this had possibly happened, to one or two Polish/Dutch or other Eastern Europe pilots, because the locals didn’t know the difference between them and nazis..!..!..!.. So, the government decided, that if they offered a good sized bounty,(and £10-0s-0d was a very handy amount of money, especially in those days of war), then the British people, would be more than happy, to keep the pow’s alive and well..!..!..!..

[@tomjustis7237]

@@norrinradd3549 Thanks for the reply and the information regarding the 10 pounds. Even as a rabid history buff I had never heard about that! Still, I think keeping the prisoners "alive and well" doesn't necessarily include treating them to drinks and a "pleasant dinner", so I still have to admire the "British attitude" in this case. BTW, I understand why the government offered an 'incentive' of ten pounds to civilians to dissuade them from taking vengeance on German aircrew considering the German bombings of civilian targets. This aircrew, however, was captured by military personnel who were required by the Geneva Convention to treat prisoners in a humane manner. (At least in theory.) Due to that, I'm curious to know if that 10 pound 'incentive' was also paid to the military or was it only offered to civilians? Again, thanks for the interesting addition to my knowledge of history.

[@norrinradd3549]

@@tomjustis7237. I am not sure about the regular forces(I will check it out), but I am sure that they paid the Home Guard, so it’s possible that everyone was able to claim this bounty, and this could account for the treatment in the pub..!..!..!.. Because, back then, there was 12d(d = pence, but I don’t know why) to the shilling, and 20 shillings in the pound, and at the most on average they would’ve paid about a shilling a pint(depending on strength of beer, and the year in question) this is around 200 pints per pow captured..!..!..!.. And, because drinking beer is a British pastime, it would mean that the ability to buy so many pints, would have to be celebrated immediately, especially with the people who made it all possible, mainly because no British person, would’ve been willing to wait for a few hours to get rid of the pow’s, mainly because, closing time wouldn’t have been waiting with them........ ;-) So, the only way to keep an eye on them, and drink too, is if they take them to the pub with them, (and even now, we don’t like to see people in the pub, who are not drinking), and because the gerry’s wouldn’t have had the old £ S D, then their captors would’ve been obliged to buy their beers..!..!..!.. On top of this, is the fact that the youngsters of the day, would’ve been very conversant with many stories from WWI, about how captured pilots on both sides, were wined and dined, before being sent to their pow camp, which is likely to have been a part of the situation..!..!..!..

[@rickcastellione2267]

Read up on what the German sailors on board KMS Admiral Hipper did to the survivors of Hms Gloworm for instance and you'll discover that it was hardly the preserve of the British to show humanity towards the captives. In fact the Germans were just as, if not more humane in their treatment of British POWs than the British themselves. Just that this fact is a little awkward for Hollywood to handle

[@Vickzq]

Similar stories of germans going for a drink with allied pilots they shot down... before handing them in as POW, are known, too.

[@Dj_Nine001]

Grew up just down the road from Graveney, this battle had been a well kept secret by the locals....the story almost passed into legend until it was acknowledged 70 years after the fact....and yes they did buy them beers before they were picked up by military personnel!!

[@stephensmith3708]

Wow, even as enemies, the UK still shoed hospitality and kindness. I be blessed by being Scott-Irish, Swedish and a wee bit of Cherokee. Yah, life is a biological chemistry of Gods making.

[@claas.relotius]

they looted cutting edge technology being simple foot soldiers. Of course they were overjoyed. Speaking of British hospatility, ask some Ukraine cossacks and their families who were delivered to uncle Stalin by his British friends..

[@dennisroyhall121]

@@claas.relotius Reckon those « treated » to taste local Kent beer were fortunate in that people in general military as well as civilian in Britain had little idea of how their prisoners’ country was treating their prisoners in the like of Bergen Belsen the discovery of which in the closing months of the War shocked and astounded the vast majority of people in Britain. Still, that said, they might have been lucky, had they fallen among people who would correctly reason that a) they most probably had no direct involvement and b) they were entitled to pow treatment determined by the Geneva convention. Even so, they were fortunate not to receive the extreme treatment dealt out to some poor RAF airmen in Germany shot dead and out of hand following the decree (by Go-bollox I think…) to do so for its brief duration before being rescinded. Germans, to generalise a little, but to hell with it, appear to have a tendency to be the first to commit atrocities and then later point accusatory fingers at not dissimular events given back at them by their enemies. Who was it and the first but not the last who said that the Germans have produced the finest philosophers, mathmeticians and musiciens, how is it they appear born lacking the basic matter to reflect upon the most vile acts they commit? Yearh, let’s love our fellow Europeans, take in their unwanted refugees, allow unlicensed fishing regardless of boundaries, dismember our own « Union » rubbishy Ursula von der Lehen may well choose to describe it by both the scowl written upon her face and the frightfully Germanic rendering of her speeches in English… Just can’t believe she did her schooling in Brussels of all places, given the magnificent welcome the Bruxellois gave to British troops in 1945. I lived there worked and studied there for five years and feel a great affection, respect and admiration for the Belgians and just cannot imagine von der Lehen learning English with such a quite insufferable Germanic accent her choice of words, and word stress manner would surely have won her capital support in the Nazi Party, and that’s for sure!

[@raymondyee2008]

It was an incredible story when I saw the video on Mark Felton's channel. Literally a last stand by the JU-88 crew.

[@philshorten3221]

Brits fighting Germans then buying them a pint is a good one. There was also US Military fighting each other in the "Battle of Bamber Bridge". Where US Military tried to enforce color separation in the local pubs to stop Black US Servicemen drinking in Pubs used by White US Servicemen. The pub landlords agreed to separation and put up signs outside all the local pubs that said "Black Troops Only! " Probably not quite what the US Military were aiming for😂 Sadly the incident at Bamber Bridge cost one soldier his life and several others were wounded. My understanding is that race tensions caused by color separation back in the US were heightened when Black troops found themselves warming welcomed and accepted gratefully by the general population in England who saw them as, all fighting on the same side.

[@benwelch4076]

Absolutely loved this video, felt like it had a western vibe about it. Corner the bad guys, make it so they can't go anywhere, shoot it out. The bad guys realize they have no hope and surrender. The sheriff gets his man! I know not quite and this was real, but its there. Once more you amaze with the quality of your work and dare I say you have improved so much since I have started watching. Another very enjoyable video, thank you and cheers.

[@tonyclough9844]

In Italy during ww2 my uncle Jack was under bombardment, a shell went off close to him the officer came along to check, and said you look a bit white. Jack turned round and the officer saw he had a big piece of shrapnel in his stomach. He radioed the medics but with 88s blazing away they said couldnt do it. Suddenly a guy jumped in an ambulance, and drove down the top of the trench the 88s let him through. Picked him up and drove back saving his life.

[@frankieblue1945]

That's right, Mark Felton Productions. I though that this story was familiar. Thanks brother, great video. Ooh Rah!

[@gunner0811]

Thank you for your very interesting and informative videos. I look forward to seeing your work each week.

[@chrisa8799]

I like how the pilot was still sitting in the cockpit of the crashed plane during the fight

[@h5skb4ru41]

What he's supposed to do?

[@chrisa8799]

@@h5skb4ru41 Well theres "going down with the ship" and then the over dedication of staying with the ship afters its down as we saw lol

[@h5skb4ru41]

@@chrisa8799 if he got out he would have gotten shot, better remain inside and help on what he can while the others defend the plane

[@chrisa8799]

@@h5skb4ru41 Nah I'm not talking about real life. I'm being a jack ass and joking about the fake pilot just sitting there staring straight during battle at 3:00

[@atoka2206]

He was probably working on setting up the scuttling bombs

[@COACHWARBLE]

Great work! I’m really enjoying your content.

[@nitroglycerin5092]

I've always wondered about if it was possible to fight on the ground with gunners. Never knew it happened!

[@andreasleonardo6793]

What strange and unique event..this video clearly explaining the event extremely..thanks for sharing it was enjoyable video

[@quigglebert]

That's so stereotypically English "Good fight lads, cheeky pint before the MP's get here hanz?"

[@theidahotraveler]

so glad you started do this bro

[@explorer1968]

It is a very positive side of British soldiers to value the bravery of their enemies!

[@swiger530]

Dignity, honor, respect and chivalry.

[@Jakedawg0922]

I love TJ’s videos

[@TJ3]

Me too

[@abandonedaccount123]

Ayo who's that random guy above me, never seem him before :/

[@gilbertjamessalud3145]

@@abandonedaccount123 thats tj3 you idiot!

[@utopia4056]

I can't imagine flying my plane directly at 1000 enemy planes. Took some real stones. Salute my brothas

[@austingode]

Really good work …. Looks like it takes a lot to produce a doc line that …. Cool

[@jarikinnunen1718]

Civilians was more dangerous to fallen enemy, than soldiers was, because of scare.

[@josephstabile9154]

Thanks for the informative presentation! The animated part of the video shows a post-BoB Ju-88A-4. Given the date of the engagement, the model actually involved would be an A-1 model, which most notably did not have a bulged rear canopy with twin rear mg's with armored protection, and had metal VDM props with thinner chord blades than the subsequent wood props.

[@aeddinlewis5713]

Imagine sitting in the pub during ww2 after an air raid just to have some German pilots walk in with some brits to have a drink 😂

[@loganpollock1689]

The grandfather of an old friend, put an ounce of 7 1/2 chill shot into the stomach of a German pilot, killing him within a minutes time. the Dornier bomber crash landed on a beach and the crew got out okay. His grandfather's Home Guard unit approached the Bomber crew and the German pilot declared that they would not be taken prisoner by civilians. The pilot tried to pull his pistol so his grandfather shot him in the stomach from six feet away. None of the other Germans had any problem with surrendering, his grandfather said.

[@BeansBroBeans]

I guess since there were no casualties on the British side and only one injured German, the British figured they might as well take them out for a drink. Maybe the Germans earned some respect by not surrendering?

[@mencken8]

Yeah, like that was going to go on very long. Holed up in a crashed thin-skinned aircraft until ground forces turn it into a Swiss cheese. Time to go to the local pub for a beer, indeed.

[@markharris1546]

I never New about this thanks 👍

[@poruatokin]

Something is very wrong with the story or the timeline - at 04:18, the sun was rising, which in September is around 7:30am. Then at 06:08, soldiers were enjoying a pint at a pub when they heard the plane crash. Now, they may have been soldiers and the country was at war, but nobody drinks beer for breakfast.

[@seabee888]

I was thinking that too at first, but perhaps those troops came off duty from a night guard shift, and so were actually having supper before going to bed?

[@MiJi_29]

This true story is basically how you treat your enemy nicely from their job

[@dude126]

Good job those London Irish blokes were enjoying a dawn pint!

[@vivians9392]

It was just the end of a shift for them, not a new dawn beer.

[@christophergallagher531]

I had not heard of this one. Thanks. Check out the collaboration between Junkers and General Motors.

[@billlarrabee9436]

That is a remarkable story!

[@csbanki]

Respect to both sides here! Imagine the discipline the Germans had when they placed the demolition of the secret device ahead of their own safe surrender. Also the way the British handled the situation was amazing. They realized that the Germans followed their orders and their intention was to destroy the plane not the soldiers.

[@cameronalexander359]

The intel on the plane only confirmed to the allies that the german inventor of the allies' much lauded Norden Bombsight, had used the same tech in the German bombsights.

[@jameswebb4593]

Further proof that the British fully understood the limitations of the Norden and developed their own more user friendly that could be used at night .

[@shaggygabe728]

Amazing!

[@ricardorao2012]

Nice job, Nice vídeo

[@Russia-bullies]

The RAF’s Boston Paul Defiants & Gloster Gladiators were used in the Battle of Britain.

[@petehall889]

Correctly, Boulton Paul Defiant, but we know what you meant! ☺

[@peacemakerdan4818]

Brilliant! Love the Video graphics and your story telling. I have a great interest in WW2 as a model maker and some one whose parents lived and worked through that conflict. Keep em coming. Excellent!

[@Whitelightnin76]

They brought them back to the pub so they could finish their drinks lmao

[@jacobstewart1950]

There was saying" Churchill wins speeches and loses military battles"

[@netherwolves3412]

4:50 they shot down the bomber gently 😆

[@vivians9392]

What a joke...sounds very British to me.

[@samkangal8428]

Sporty .Cheers from Germany🍻

[@mrains100]

Thank you.

[@Eusouafisica]

so good

[@Nativeat1YT]

Could be cool to see a gun cam video maybe in il2 or warthunder.

[@wave6905]

It's il2 in war thunder you would have likely exploded when touching the ground

[@homefront3162]

The Krauts were certainly he best dressed

[@vivians9392]

Yes, but what good did it do them?

[@samwilson3997]

Maybe a rendition of Greg Boyington's shootdown?

[@dougerrohmer]

So I wonder what was so secret about the bomb sight and the aircraft? Probably just of vague interest to some nerd in the Air Ministry.

[@russhoffman6301]

How about a story about the German invasion of Norway and the events that led to the movie "Into the White" where British & German aircrews who were shot down.

[@vangazmicvoyage5077]

So sorry about the shootdown, mates. Let's have a pint!

[@vivians9392]

Typical man to man interaction!... ' No hard feelings, let's have a drink before you go to the POW camp!'

[@theidahotraveler]

a pint at 6:30 in the morning lol

[@artrandy]

Something doesn't ring true here, I agree..........

[@themeanestkitten]

Good thing that one guy knew german, that could have ended very badly😬

[@masterimbecile]

Any chance you can do the Package Q air strike during Desert Storm, and how the F16 pilot dodged 5 SAM missiles without his chaff?

[@TJ3]

I hope to be able to modern dogfights sometime in the future.

[@masterimbecile]

@@TJ3 If, and when, you do, you could do a lot worse than starting with this one.

[@kiwifruit27]

Dad’s Army had an episode based on this, very funny

[@hugoaken2604]

Captured German pilot : "your name will also be on the list ... what is your name?" Captain Mainwaring : "don't tell him Pike ..."

[@DawnyK215]

@@hugoaken2604 sorry to say that is incorrect. The German and his crew were submariners in the episode not aircrew

[@CVwritinganovel]

Suggestion: i would like to suggest Richard Halsey Best

[@Kano_Productions]

Get out of there! What are you doing! ENGAGING THE ENEMY

[@Jimimac73]

Poor horses with all those people touching them... sign should read dont touch the horses!

[@leogarcia3602]

Do the Russian ace Alexander Ivanovich Pokryshkin

[@heversham1]

Have you ever considered the dam busters raid

[@TJ3]

Yes! Would love to do this but very difficult to make the visuals in my flight sim

[@pedenmk]

What a great group of solders taking their prisoners for a pint and a meal now thats a good group of blokes.

[@tk9839]

You gotta love the Brits who after being shot at buy the surrendered german airmen pints at a local pub...

[@bubblegumbabeface6629]

So basically this was Fury but with Germans and instead of a tank it was a plane.

[@mr.nobody6457]

Thumbs up

[@robdee81]

whats a balming raid? :P

[@bociankot2198]

303 squadron man, make a video

[@USER351]

Would not surprise me if the British had a great chance to copy some advanced German technology.

[@alisilcox6036]

Actual description of events starts 3:30 in a nine minute video... I understand the algorithm needs padding but a context opening doesnt need to take a third of the video, perhaps consider putting two stories in one?

[@blakinblak6797]

15p51 mustang VS 15 stukas please mini movie

[@pouletbidule9831]

15 p51 vs 15 bf109g

[@blakinblak6797]

@@pouletbidule9831 YES BRO

[@dparks256]

Hey I really love your videos but hate the “coming up” part. (Though to be fair I hate it on television too, as it spoils the surprise just to keep the half interested folks tuned in.) Is this part of the video necessary? Maybe I’m the minority opinion here. Anyways, that said, you really make great content, thank you!

[@TJ3]

Thanks a lot man. I actually put that in there like a lot of other content creators to try and show new viewers what to expect to hopefully keep them interested in the video. I do my best to show cool parts of the video without spoiling it. I'll try to make sure I don't give stuff away for returning viewers like yourself!

[@johnedwards7899]

A computerised bomb sight in WW2? Tell me more.

[@zgthor]

Why didn't they just bail, gravity would destroy the intel and for the papers they could destroy it in to many ways to list

[@frankbutaric3565]

Bailing out back in the day was not that safe. Shit parachutes only slowed down the descent not like modern chutes that you can pick a landing site

[@BigLisaFan]

Possibly too low?

[@zgthor]

@@frankbutaric3565 idk much about pilot parachutes and their gear but airborne, paramarines and multiple other paratrooper units where already a thing by then, so parachute although static line worked for infantry

[@user-xb5bh9ig1v]

For the Father Land.

[@phillipwasson2980]

✔👌

[@LudwigAmadeusVanDerMaas]

British intelligence was interested in the new German technology. Where could you find intelligence in the uk?

[@kansascityshuffle8526]

They could have done better to turn those machine guns on their own fuel tanks and walk away

[@khuret1773]

Winston Churchill speech does seems a bit Drunk 😂 If u keep on hearing his other speeches too

[@TurboMountTV]

I would have a tough time being nice to people who were trying to drop bombs on me and my family.

[@vivians9392]

You don't have to be nice...just humane. If so, you will be the winner in the end!

[@TurboMountTV]

@@vivians9392 Nice guys finish last. In love AND WAR.

[@tricky1992000]

Irish boys having a pint at 6am in the morning?

[@georgebarnes8163]

Hardly, the Irish took no part in the war.

[@tricky1992000]

@@georgebarnes8163 The London Irish rifles were a regiment that originally recruited from the Irish Community in London.

[@georgebarnes8163]

@@tricky1992000 Not during WW2, the only Irish contribution during WW2 was numerous bomb attacks in Britain , nothing more.

[@wilsontoddd5253]

Have. A. Video. Of. Top. Secret. German. U. Boat.

[@vivians9392]

Do you stutter-r-r in your vocal speech?

[@Wolf-hh4rv]

Definitely not a direct hit… would have blown to a zillion pieces

[@robdee81]

"The British troops took them for a pint and meal before handing them over" ........ God i love my country.

[@letoubib21]

*What?* A pleasant meal? In the rosbifs' country?! You must be kiddin' *. . .*

[@jimdavies6764]

Britons "knew that an invasion was inevitable"? No. They feared one was probable, is all. If it had been inevitable, it would have taken place.

[@rocketeer.]

That doesn’t look like junkers

[@elliott1651]

This reminds me of the movie furry

[@wilsontoddd5253]

Have. A. Video. On. Top. Secret. Germen. U. Boats

[@mikearakelian6368]

I didn't look at this to hear fucking ads

[@TJ3]

Well you're gonna hear them anyways.

[@mrkrakychen5325]

why don't the germans add self destruct features to the plane?

[@pouletbidule9831]

Adding explosives spuds kinda dumb

[@boss2234]

👍🏼👍🏼🇺🇸

[@gerrydepp8164]

Cheers you Schwein! Your shout Fritz! (shout means its your turn to buy the beer)

[@charlest1984]

Of course the Irish soldiers were at a pub 🤣💀🤣 I’m part Irish so if you don’t like what I said you know what to do 😂

[@webstercat]

It is impossible to shoot a plane “ gently”.

[@salus1231]

Well you can blast away until the bomber disintegrates, and smashes to bits hitting the ground, killing everyone. You can also aim at the engines and a few bursts into each will usually set them alight and force the pilot to try to land asap. I mean, it can be done, that's what he meant, I think.

[@rawdyrider]

Too bad!The Germans were wayy ahead of both the Brirs and Yanks....

[@b-trucker7717]

And still couldn't win😂

[@vivians9392]

@@b-trucker7717 No, they couldn't win when they had an insane person like Hitler running the whole show! He was inept, to say the least!

[@ugolagazzi4246]

Creazy nazis!

[@generalpanzerfaust2387]

Me after seeing bri'ish people change the topic by saying that the bri'ish have good hospitality: Please touch grass