A customer recently bought a Fake / Phoney / Faux Hulk 181. Here's the story with Russ Bright

[@JernosComicsPopCulture]

Ughhh. I just did a video on a guy trying to sell a fake just like this on Facebook. He claimed it was a replica, but he was still very deceiving in his wording, calling it "authentic," and so forth. Thank you for sharing this and thanks to Russ for taking the time to help advise collectors.

[@ImmaculateComics]

Seriously !?!? Can you share this guy’s name !? I wonder if it’s the same person!?!? Thanks for the kind words, I’ll watch your video, I subscribe to your channel and I appreciate your content very much!

[@steelbat54]

Yep, watched it.. 👍

[@darcyshouldice5076]

Great post. Scams suck! Being in the printing industry myself, here are a couple of tips that might help as well...Some of the dead give aways that it's a facsimile is the gloss of the ink on the cover and the inside pages when compared to an original (especially blacks). The print may even look like it's sitting on the paper and not absorbed into it. The toner may even flake, chip or crack along the spine or cut edges of the paper. It may even feel like the pages stick together somewhat (from static). As pointed out, comparing the comic to others printed from the same era will help. Paper quality and color is also telling. There is usually some degree of offset from books printed (vs copied) of ink showing through from the other page or leaving a ghosted image. Honestly hope this helps someone out there. Thanks again.

[@ImmaculateComics]

Thanks so much Darcy, this is great info!

[@robertmays1726]

Austin Whitehead from Covington, GA. is the guy selling fake hulk 181 you see in the video.

[@guystaats8882]

Covington, huh? I guess a fake Hulk 181 buys a lot of oxycodone...

[@u2s1fan]

I was scammed by this Austin Whitehead couple of years ago. Traded a bunch of books online for an Amazing Spider-Man annual 1. Stings me to this day.

[@ImmaculateComics]

@u2s1fan I’m so sorry that’s awful

[@u2s1fan]

@@ImmaculateComicsyeah. So mad at myself. I’m in western Canada and he’s way over in Covington, Georgia. Not much I can do about it. Blasted his name all over Facebook comic forums. Managed to locate his brother online but wasn’t much help. Think his dad (and himself) have an eBay account the Dragon’s Crypt. I might be wrong. They won’t respond to my inquiries. Anyways hard lesson learned.

[@briancenti5423]

this is basically what happened at a local comic shop. guy came in with X-men # 1 1963 original. well the owner who is a friend opened this shop for his kids, he didn't know enough to actually see a fake. the owner offered him $ 20,000 for it as it was in near mint shape. i seen the book sitting on his counter and while my friend was in the back writing a check, i opened the book and seen the inside cover, addams family values movie !!! which Did Not come out 1963. i quickly told my friend about this, of course the guy played innocent and said he didn't know. thanks for bringing this out in the open. even in our hobby, there are crooks. it does hurt, and it kills the innocence of the business and hobby, Thanks Again.

[@ImmaculateComics]

omg its so lucky you were there to spot that. I shudder to think of how people can nearly ruin a small LCS with kind of BS.

[@Staysyk]

I "won" a Hulk 181 on Whatnot 2 years ago. I got the book and excitedly sent it to cgc with whopping $500 coverage because the sealed book was easily 9.4+. Turns out it was a very good fake like this. Reputable seller too. I legit lost ambition for collecting for a while, it still stings. Glad to see videos like this to help find the fakes.

[@ImmaculateComics]

Ugh that’s a tough story to hear. 😢

[@Steverogers84715]

Thanks for the sharing this. My heart goes out for the guy this happened too

[@ImmaculateComics]

Same here. I actually had to tell the guy while he was in the hospital for a heart problem. It was just awful.

[@thrawn5k]

This video spooked me so good, that I kept staring at my 181 on the wall, so I took it down. It's good :) Sucks to here your friend got swindled. Hopefully he keeps collecting

[@ImmaculateComics]

It made me do some self reflection too!

[@wnhuskey]

Another big tell is in the actual printing. Look for the four color printed dot pattern with a magnifier or lupe. If you don't see any dots, it is likely an inkjet reprinted copy.

[@ImmaculateComics]

Great tip!

[@archangel0891]

Jeezus, this is enraging! Even the 'pulp' paper is glossy!! No idea ya knew Russ, I watch him & tom all the time👌🏻

[@ImmaculateComics]

Russ and Tom are both good friends of mine. Also Fire Guy Ryan and The Golden Age Guru.... I just don't advertise it much. I play things pretty low key, lol!

[@zackpowermusic]

@@ImmaculateComics would love to hear you and Russ’s opinion on Alterna comics. I’m interested in self publishing my own comic on newsprint. If you guys have any tips on printers that would be amazing.

[@brucetaylor478]

Regarding the slabbing of a counterfeit comic book, I actually received a graded TMNT comic book with a signature series graded at 9.2 but at the top it said it was counterfeit. But it have the blue and yellow label.

[@ImmaculateComics]

I wish I could say I was surprised!

[@chriskuneman3310]

By how it's being handled. You can almost tell that the weight of the book is off and it doesn't move or flex like a book from that era would. I'm not surprised to hear these are being duplicated. In fact, I think it's only a matter of time before someone makes one that's very difficult to spot as fraudulent.

[@ImmaculateComics]

my kids could tell it was fake from 25 feet away without me even asking them. but of course they've seen several dozen copies of this book over the years.

[@rhomotor]

Probably vinegar was used on the staples to get it to rust. I normally used white vinegar to make screws look old and rusty for my vintage sign collection.

[@ImmaculateComics]

I’m sure you are exactly Correct ! Clever bastards !

[@robertt9342]

The page Color caught me right away.

[@michaelmayrend313]

The biggest give away for this one from just a glare/visual point of view is the fact that the inside pages are uniformly glossy even where there should be no ink on the newsprint - meaning no possible gloss/glare.

[@ImmaculateComics]

Thats the same giveaway for me too. I you don't see a lot of Bronze Age books or if if you are only seeing photos you may not notice it ... especially if you really *want* to believe its real.

[@UNCANNYGEORGE]

It was good to hear Russ’s input on this.

[@ImmaculateComics]

Russ is one of the good ones. He's exceptionally honest and knowledgeable too.

[@YurrNext]

Those counterfeit 181's have been around for about 15yrs.

[@ImmaculateComics]

Have they really? I had heard they existed vaguely but had never seen one.

[@YurrNext]

@@ImmaculateComics Yeah, I saw my first one back in 2010 at Emerald City comicon. It was less distressed than the copy you showed, and we identified it off of a dealers rack. The dealer was pissed but a good guy. He labeled it with a sticker stating it was a fake as well as writing fake in big letters on the back cover with a sharpie, and left it on the front table for people to look at. Amazingly it was on the last day and nobody had bought or noticed it was a fake earlier.

[@andrewspecht6360]

Just listening the paper sounded wrong as you were examining it. **** anyone that would be a part of such a thing!

[@Mr.E-xc3tg]

3 additional tips when looking at older books from me (I work in publishing): 1. Rusty staples, but no rust on the book = fake. 2. Large gap in the center (staple spread) when the book is closed = fake (indicates the book was recently printed and hasn’t been folded long). 3. Glossy interior pages = fake.

[@ImmaculateComics]

wow thanks for this!

[@cheddarcheese7928]

I’ve been afraid of this for a while.2 yrs ago I bought a Spidey #300 off eBay from a guy in South America.He listed it as fake so no foul play..I gave it to my 24 yr old son who loves comics as well.I watched him basically read it cover to cover and he couldn’t tell until I told him.So be cautious!

[@ImmaculateComics]

Well at least your son enjoyed it. Scary tale of caution, though. I received 12 copies of that book for my 17th birthday and only ever read 1 of them. I still have them all!

[@lawrenceestrella2222]

Very informative. Great video

[@ImmaculateComics]

Glad you think so!

[@Fenimore.Cassidy]

I am by no means an expert but one of the first things that stood out when Russ opened the book to look at the pages was the gloss/ sheen coming off the pages from the lighting. If memory serves me right, the inks on paper from this era don't reflect light like this (as can be seen when he compares a real book (Thor 193) at 5:50)

[@ImmaculateComics]

You got that exactly right. its very shiny and smooth.

[@rrizza7638]

The strongest recommendation any collector should take from this is; if buying anything online pay with PayPal AND pay with a credit card. Do not use your PayPal balance. Use a credit card. This way you are protected twice. PayPal will go to bat with you and the credit card company will do the same.

[@ImmaculateComics]

Thats a good tip, thank you so much!

[@mandofoe7447]

The thing that stands out to me more than anything is just how glossy the inner pages are. A book from the mid 70’s does not have that kind of gloss to the inner pages. Really stinks for that collector. If I was paying that kind of money I think I would wait for a show in my area and see if I could pick it up there.

[@ImmaculateComics]

Thanks for your insightful comments!

[@jasoncraft2135]

Sorry this happens but I guess I'm showing my age because I could tell from the second you showed it and for the same reasons. To white on the cover and inside pages to glossy. Just sucks that a few idiots will ruin anything for a buck.

[@aftacomics5865]

Showing my age too because I said the same thing. We've been around too long to NOT see stuff like that.

[@ImmaculateComics]

same!

[@UNCANNYGEORGE]

I actually talked about some weird comics I saw at a Half Price Books in my most recent haul video. They did not look like official reprints, they were in pristine condition and even the paper seemed modern. I didn’t take any photos but even HPB knew something was off because they were labeled as reprints.

[@ImmaculateComics]

I wish you would have taken some photos for us to share, but super glad you didn't buy any!

[@UNCANNYGEORGE]

@@ImmaculateComics if I can go back soon and they still have them, I’ll take some pics. I usually post this type of stuff on my TIkTok but I will try to do a follow up video if possible.

[@DocReasonable]

This will be even more of a problem if these counterfeits start getting into regular collections (without the buyer knowing) and ending up at yard sales.

[@crzdcolombian]

Great video. I get worried to buy older books that aren't graded because of this exact reason. Hulk 181 is a grail but people with Slabbed version every super low grade want 5k. I see them on ebay and Facebook all the time but just don't trust they didn't have restoration. Now I have to worry about counterfeiting... great

[@ImmaculateComics]

I understand. I ve recently seen some evidence of slabbed books in which the grader missed that a book was a reprint and it makes me uneasy to realize thats happening.

[@richb1016]

Interesting note. Today my LCS owner told me he had something for me. Knowing I was an Iron Man fan, he gave me one of these fakes. Tales of suspense 39. I guess someone had come in thinking it was real, and decided they didn’t want it after. It’s cool to own because it’s a free copy and will be neat to display, but you are right. Just touching it you know it isn’t real. It feels like a color laser printer printed the pages.

[@jacobbornowsky4013]

Thanks for this video… also reaffirms my hesitancy about buying raw Mega keys like this.. rather just pay up for the slab and piece of mind but hey that’s just me 🤷

[@ImmaculateComics]

Glad I could help and I really wish this wasn't happening. It just makes ma sick to my stomach to realize that there are people like this in our industry/hobby.

[@michaelmayrend313]

While appreciate the thought, a slab has the potential to make it worse. You would have the same issue buying a slab over the web - the case could be tampered with and you could not tell in photos. But it could also be the same issue in person. If it is slabbed, how can you inspect the inside pages? Everyone needs to pick their maximum pain price point. Anything over that price should be broken out of the slab and inspected by the buyer or their local agent. Pay someone to authenticate a high dollar purchase.

[@Wiser1FOREVER]

Best thing to do about these sellers is to report them or specifically the items he lists. I just reported someone who had several listings of only this type of book. Any one of them could possibly be passed off as the real thing to the unsuspecting buyer.

[@ImmaculateComics]

Thanks for the input!

[@ibji]

I have to confess, I was a collector of marvel value stamps. I sent away for the books to put them in, and have both series 1 and 2 complete (200 stamps removed by me). I physically removed the stamp from the book to check the back, and was relieved that my stamp didn't come from a Hulk 181.

[@duacot6633]

Yay for Mill Creek Comics. They now at the old place where Larry's Smokehouse used to be?

[@ImmaculateComics]

Yes, yay for Mill 'Geek' and they are at 17624 15th Ave SE Suite #105A, Bothell, WA 98012!

[@Asian_Connection]

OMG, that what I worry about FAKE comics. Thank you for sharing.

[@ImmaculateComics]

You're welcome, just something else to keep you up at night!

[@Asian_Connection]

@@ImmaculateComics - I was suspecting fake for many years already. You can see some of these EBAY sellers that seems to just have all these 9.x rare comics.

[@goldenagegoodies4145]

Around 7 years ago, there was a big fuss going on about these fake Hulk 181's and as i recall a lot of them sold on ebay as real 181. I cannot remember which company CGC or CBCS did issue a warning.

[@ImmaculateComics]

It’s pretty clearly a fake when you see it in person but its actually tough to tell from photos, especially when you *want* it to be genuine

[@CoachDale_TopNotchMuayThai]

I was going to say, right off the bat if it doesn’t smell like a old book…. It ain’t a old book. But you wouldn’t know that until you have it in your hands. Damn that’s greasy man

[@allanbard6048]

I recently bought a stack of Marvel Tales from the early 1970's that were so "fragrant"...that little kid was quite happy.

[@State-uw8pu]

Hey I just subscribed to your channel a weird thing is I feel like I may have bid on this book or a book very similar to this there was an auction on LiveAuctioneers about a month or two ago with a bunch of random books old playboys , bags and boards, old instruction manuals. I have the photos I will look and let u know.

[@ImmaculateComics]

oh dear god I hope there are not several of them running around!

[@State-uw8pu]

@@ImmaculateComics I’m going to look for pics

[@cjdesign5700]

Money makes people really suck. Thanks Rick and Russ.

[@ImmaculateComics]

you're welcome!

[@monkabuda]

Every time I see a photo or video with this comic in it I get tick off!! Years ago a portion of my collection was stolen and this was one of this issue was one of them.

[@ImmaculateComics]

thats so heartbreaking, I am no sorry!

[@tylarrolnik2932]

My hands off to you for sharing this video!

[@ImmaculateComics]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@matthewbarraco6878]

Thank you for sharing this video. With the rise ($) of the comic book boom unfortunately we get this!

[@ImmaculateComics]

I guess eventually all or most valuable comics will be slabbed and at least somewhat verified to be originals but I wonder if any comics made it into slabs without being noticed? I kind of doubt thats possible , but I still wonder.

[@arthurtripp6922]

SOUNDS LIKE THE PETE ROSE ROOKIE CARD COPY

[@ImmaculateComics]

I never heard of that one

[@bobmatteis4130]

Wow this is Bob in Connecticut whoever owns this book I hope he got his money back. Anyway just a few years ago these kind of books were not worth that much at all because I gave up the restaurant business. I only got $1100 for my Hulk 181 8.0 . Just a few years ago . On the other hand my amazing fantasy 15 6.0 which I only paid $4000 for that was only worth about $50,000 a few years ago. Everyone knows 6.5 just sold for $225,000 so I guess my copy would bring $175,000 or more well I’m not selling anyway.

[@ImmaculateComics]

its hard to let go of an AF15 for sure. I'm going to die with my copies and leave them to my boys.

[@animegeek6118]

This is just sad. I feel bad for whoever payed for this fake. Hearing crap like this makes me happy I’m naturally skeptical of buying for places like Facebook or EBay. If I cant find a book I can physically seeing that’s cost a good chunk of change I’ll pass. Lucky for me I’m not into finding old keys from Marvel. Though some of those old Horror magazines and comics I like can cost almost as much if not more sometimes.

[@ImmaculateComics]

I think if you collected something different form the blue chip keys you'd be safer. I don't think anyone is faking old Aquaman books.

[@binkysphinx]

I'm surprised its taken this long for such good quality fakes to hit the market. With prices the way they are, these fakes absolutely will improve to the point where chemical analysis of the inks used will be the only way to tell the real from the fake.

[@ImmaculateComics]

I did perform an FTIR analysis of the paper and the ink and it was immediately clean that both were very different from an original. The paper could not have been more than 12 years old and was likely much newer.

[@binkysphinx]

@@ImmaculateComics What would happen if the counterfeiter used paper stock from recycled bronze age books?

[@weaslepopper]

This is a cautionary tale. While the internet is great for things,it kicks the door a mile wide open for scammers. If I can't hold a book in my hands,I'm not spending my hard earned money on it. Support your local comic store.

[@ImmaculateComics]

I think if gives us all a little unease

[@ziggyc4474]

This gonna keep happening

[@brianhood4555]

Smell is the key!!! If you don’t know what I’m talking about then don’t buy comic books!

[@ImmaculateComics]

indeed! I always say that smell reminds me of my grandmas hugs.

[@DocReasonable]

Future scammers could put these in the same bag as a bunch of 1974 books for a couple of months to give them that authentic odour.

[@mauricedevereaux6573]

I am in Montreal and there is a scammer selling fake Hulk #181's on Facebook marketplace, he conned one guy out of $2000, the guy went to the police and they said there was nothing they could do even if the guy is STILL advertising other copies. It's frustrating.

[@savvy727]

That person got some bad info from the police. Committing fraud is a felony. Involving the postal system to perpetrate such a fraud in the US is a federal offense - I would imagine there is a Canadian equivalent. Using Facebook/a computer system to perpetrate such crimes is wire fraud. If you know this person advise them to go beyond the local constabulary and contact the postmaster generals office at the minimum.

[@ImmaculateComics]

DO you know the sellers name? I wonder if its the same guy?

[@mauricedevereaux6573]

@@ImmaculateComics I will send you the information in private Rick by e-mail.

[@DocReasonable]

​@@mauricedevereaux6573 Sometimes 'there's nothing we can do' is code for 'we couldn't be bothered.'

[@emmanuelsangels70]

I’d never pay more than 500 for a raw copy

[@ImmaculateComics]

I'm not sure I would take one for free, lol!

[@williammedina8682]

need an update if the seller is charged for fraud or investigated as a repeat offender.

[@ImmaculateComics]

There is a criminal investigation now!

[@aftacomics5865]

Hello! Long time collector/suspicious by nature guy here: The pages almost look a little glossy? Plus, the way the top view of the spine looked, it was like new? Like you, I've been around books a LONG time now and just can "Feel" a books weight or see the colors to know something is wrong?

[@ImmaculateComics]

its harder to spot flaw when you *want* the book to be authentic.

[@PaulSaether]

Yep. I could easily tell if a comic had a single page missing just by the feel as I 'pinched' it - and I mean a boarded and bagged comic.

[@dudejrryan]

I have the 1999 German reprint signature series graded by CGC. Legit, but not worth thousands of dollars (maybe in a few more decades)😂

[@mikelitteris69]

The easiest way to spot the fake is the pages are too shiney and smooth

[@ImmaculateComics]

in this case thats absolutely true.

[@mediaguy6891]

just incredible…

[@ImmaculateComics]

and sad!

[@randolphbaijnauth2499]

This is scary.

[@williammclean3090]

Wonder what other comic is fake out there...between $100 - $500 range. HULK #181 NOT surprised people are suspicious ?

[@ImmaculateComics]

Its certainly changing the game to know there are circulating now.

[@Asian_Connection]

I know where this will end up soon. EBAY?

[@ImmaculateComics]

It’s probably only good for some KZbin practical jokes. Maybe mix it in with some worthless books and leave outside a street corner for someone find?

[@EndofDays213]

Thank you for the information. Now I know.

[@ImmaculateComics]

Glad to help

[@KollectingKaos]

Things like this hurt every single honest seller on the internet!

[@ImmaculateComics]

It really does. Have you ever encountered something like this?

[@KollectingKaos]

@@ImmaculateComics I've run across counterfeit cards before, but not had any bad comics come through my hands yet.

[@michaelcalabrese2960]

Thanks for sharing 🙂

[@Coronado-nz7wu]

If they took apart a real Hulk 181 to make copies you can bet they made a lot of them!

[@jonathanloera6830]

he didn't even give any tips on what to look for. he just said ask for more pics. and then do what? if it's a good fake even with more picks some could get fooled right. specialy if they don't know what to look for

[@ImmaculateComics]

I think the implied understanding is to compare to photos of a genuine book and look for "differences". Listing all of the possible differences that could be observed and quantifying them completely would be a challenging undertaking. Russ did cover several features briefly that revealed the book to be a fake in his expert opinion. You are correct, if it were a good enough fake even looking at the book in person wouldn't reveal it to be a fake or people could just send you photos of a genuine book and send you a different one or no book at all. We can all imagine many scenarios, but there are few situations in which asking for more information hurts and asking for less information helps. Additionally it would be impossible to know what to look for in every single fake made by every single seller anywhere in the world as their books may not be identical. For myself, I can spectroscopically analyze the paper and the ink with an FTIR but I have to have the book in my possession first.

[@steelbat54]

Someone should go to jail for that..

[@ImmaculateComics]

plus get their ass whooped, IMHO.

[@butterfly11effected]

It's so unfortunate that people would do this, but there a mostly good people selling/buying on FB marketplace, myself included. Due diligence, and educating oneself goes a long way... but to advise to completely ban marketplace is too much I think. It's not fair to the larger community who are honest.

[@ImmaculateComics]

I agree but these few bad apples may ruin it for everyone!

[@nickelliott1174]

These photocopies aren't that close to the original, anyone with a moderate amount of time handling comics should be able to spot the differences. Remember, anything too good to be true, usually is.

[@AntonioSantos-gt6le]

What a great video thanks for sharing 👍 😀

[@ImmaculateComics]

Thanks for watching!

[@buckfarmer5354]

This pisses me off. What would you think about creating a go fund me and ask the channel to each contribute a dollar to try and get an authentic 181 for this victimized friend of ours? I'd be willing to contribute. Just a thought. Not trying to volunteer your time for what may or may not be supported. I bet if Russ mentioned it on toms channel we could get him a nice copy.

[@archangel0891]

Im game👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@whoisthatmaskedman1]

Ditto, I'd give a buck

[@ImmaculateComics]

I’m sure he would appreciate it. And we can eliminate go fund me. If anyone sends the money to me I will Give 100% of it to him. That’s a lot of trust to place in me but I am a good person and am worthy of that trust. I’ll talk to Russ and Tom About it !

[@buckfarmer5354]

@@ImmaculateComics nice. Lmk.

[@Asian_Connection]

Facebook marketplace is the worst!

[@ImmaculateComics]

Ive seen comic on there before but I haven't bought any. Now I don't think I'll ever do it. No accountability at all.

[@bat2275]

There is gloss coming off the interior pages I mean come on

[@ImmaculateComics]

Right !?

[@hoardershide]

Amazes me when people get taken by fakes. #iwanttobelieve . Wondering why you have 4 minutes of dead screen and some random audio track for the last 2 minutes?

[@ImmaculateComics]

It was a copyright strike thing at the end of my video that make it come out blank. Until I get it resolved I cannot edit or remove the video either. These are frivolous claims by third parties and it takes a while to get them resolved. I wrote a note about it in the description.

[@hoardershide]

@@ImmaculateComics Gotcha. Guess that's what the descriptions are for LOL. Fortunate enough to not have had only one claim and it was an easy resolve. Thx!

[@ImmaculateComics]

@@hoardershide They are definitely stinkers to me. It will get resolved then I can edit out that black part or make it visible. it sure is a pain in the neck, though!

[@djoneforever]

If they can fake it, why not make more ? I don't mind buying a fake for less

[@ImmaculateComics]

You can get marvel facsimile books for next to nothing or read a digital Version for very cheap. Then again you can also have a mannequin for a wife and have holographic kids. Every had their own level of coMfort with these info.

[@djoneforever]

Facsimile is not an exact replica

[@ImmaculateComics]

@@djoneforever very true

[@kokounlimited]

A good reason is because it's completely illegal. Reprinting another person's or company's work and selling it is copyright infringement.

[@djoneforever]

@@kokounlimited yeh, but do it. Do it for all the bluechips

[@josephthunderhorse6731]

The problem...so it would seem...is much like"guns"...guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people...l bought one of these on ebay ,it was an Amazing Spiderman #129 sold as a copy...or as was just mentioned "a replica" l knew when l bought it...l paid 100 bucks for it...l loved it...we live in a world of replicas when unscrupulous people sell them as "real"... that is when the line is crossed

[@josephthunderhorse6731]

What l feel is the most interesting is the first time l ever heard of these 99 dollar copies was on either "Comic Toms" or a show similar on KZbin...one of the guys talked about an Amazing Fantasy #15 and said "wow l wouldnt mind owning one"...yup...thats how l felt when l located " the guy" that sold em'... l bought one...2 years later tried to sell it [ AS A COPY ] and the story broke about "Fakes"...see how a word can change everything lol...l pulled it and now have it as mine forever because of the unexpected condemnation surrounding it......here is the best part...the guy that l got it from is a nice guy , he doesn't think he's doing harm...l however finally get it...we live side by side with scam artists this story sickened me... l will never get why but the hobby is never gonna be the same as long as there are scams...and "fear of scams"

[@nolanmorgan7920]

Nice

[@ImmaculateComics]

Thanks

[@mikecorker3314]

A fax isn't a fake.. its a reprint of the original...fax are not fakes...just reprints..

[@leehamilton7788]

I have heard tmnt is faked alot

[@ImmaculateComics]

Have you ever seen a fake tmnt in person!? I have heard of them but haven’t seen one

[@leehamilton7788]

No but the paper quality of the original tmnt 1 is easyer for fakers to hack bx the 1st issues were printed from there basement

[@leehamilton7788]

Meabr the real 1st issue was printed from basement

[@crzdcolombian]

Send to PGX :) see what it comes back as :)

[@ImmaculateComics]

They may actually steal it and replace it with another fake!

[@semperfi_ny]

PGX did grade one and labeled it Counterfeit Comic right on the front. CGC has graded counterfeit Cerebus 1.

[@toasty-toast]

FYi, you may want to wait 24 hours to upload videos to maximize your viewership potential, or else the algorithm starts pushing the second video out to everyone before the first one has been seen by your subscribers.

[@ImmaculateComics]

oh wow I had no idea thats great advice, thanks so much!

[@bachtuwork]

Detective comics

[@fletch3538]

Makes me sick!

[@ImmaculateComics]

same!

[@3ma_lengend]

Don't buy a book unless it's slabbed cgc or cbcs or pGX

[@KeyKiller74]

Just imagine if a new grading company pops up & starts grading these fake Hulk 181. 💀📉💸

[@ImmaculateComics]

I fear its coming. Its shockingly easy to have those frame injection molded or vacuum-formed with he right molds. It would be so simple to put a fake cover over any appropriately aged comic book, print a fake label, then just sell the books. all you have to do is print a label with a serial number thats already in the CGC database.

[@DocReasonable]

​@@ImmaculateComics Brand new CGC style cases can be purchased from Alibaba.

[@ImmaculateComics]

@@DocReasonable seriously? oh lord it wont be long before the counterfeits are slabbed!

[@DocReasonable]

@@ImmaculateComics Yep, I can't post the link but they can found easily via keyword search. And yes, this will get worse before it gets better.