A Day in the Life of a Wigan Coal Miner 1911

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@Minecraft-pj4hm
@Minecraft-pj4hm 2 жыл бұрын
My mother came from Lancashire- nearby Westleigh - and worked in a Cotton Mill from 12 years old (she had to leave school early to bring in extra money). Her father worked in the pits but was wounded and left with a crippled arm in World War One so he was unable to go back down the pit at the end of the war - he was forced to take a lesser paid job and no pension etc for war service. My mother's brother went down the pit after World War Two having served in the RAF. He died in 1982 aged just 59 of a heart attack brought on by lung disease caused by being a miner. Times back then were so unimaginably tough - two World Wars, poverty, shortages, and health destroying hard work. It was another world that the modern generation need to be taught and shown - their world is built on it.
@ToddFatherDrills
@ToddFatherDrills 9 ай бұрын
Wow... Respect
@johndean958
@johndean958 7 жыл бұрын
This film should be shown to everyone as mandatory, so they can appreciate what people would do to support their families.I salute all miners. Unbelievable conditions and poor pay.An extremely dangerous job. I can't think of a tougher job, especially in the 1920s . Still, a daunting job. I couldn't do it underground. such a closed in feeling and with danger all around. Special people could only cope.
@kenny-ek9ns
@kenny-ek9ns 5 жыл бұрын
Are you stupid? Miners god very fine pay for their job. Check your goddamn facts. Miners were also respected.
@michaelb2789
@michaelb2789 5 жыл бұрын
Mrs Bitch This is incorrect. Most mining towns paid in script. Those script were only usable at the towns stores. Those stores were owned by, you guess it, the mining company. They jacked the prices up to make sure the money was only used to pay for the necessities. This ensures the miner and their family has to stay in the town because they could afford to move. There’s a reason mining was usually a family business for several generations. They definitely didn’t get paid the money they deserved. Source- My family, up until my fathers generation, got their money from the mine and butchering/hunting. My mother family got money from mining until her grandfather and his brothers went out to California to look for gold. They met because their fathers bonded over taking about their family history.
@bugzyhardrada3168
@bugzyhardrada3168 5 жыл бұрын
@@kenny-ek9ns you truly are a stupid little bitch arent you, even by your own standard's which you cant even reach for fucks sake.....
@justsomeguywatchingyoutube8104
@justsomeguywatchingyoutube8104 4 жыл бұрын
language atleast hes saluting them there would be a low chance of them surviving in the deeper sections of the mines
@angelamary9493
@angelamary9493 2 жыл бұрын
Agree 👍
@ossieostrich69
@ossieostrich69 2 жыл бұрын
My late Dad’s family came from Dunfermline, Scotland, in the 1850’s, to Australia. They were coal miners, but wanted a better future for the family. To leave such a community, for a chance of a better life, on the other side of the world, must have been a terrifying giant leap into the unknown. Fortunately they applied their mining experience, and hard work, to the Castlemaine Gold field, and found enough gold to buy an underdeveloped farm, which they improved and sold, before doing the same twice more. A great outcome, but at the expense of a great deal of blood, sweat, tears, and sacrifice.
@gallbrothersmma9437
@gallbrothersmma9437 2 жыл бұрын
MY DAD WAS IN AUSTRALIA FOR THIS AS WELL IN THE 70'S
@courtneycase2349
@courtneycase2349 4 жыл бұрын
Going through old census records is what brought me here. I had ancestors at 14 years old (probably earlier than that) working in the coal mines in Wigan back in the 1850s/60s. It sure is humbling to learn about what they went through just to make a meager life for themselves.
@HighlanderNorth1
@HighlanderNorth1 2 жыл бұрын
🤔 As the modern "progressives" would point out, what we are seeing here is a tremendous amount of historical "white privilege"! Not only were the men lucky to work deep in the bowels of the Earth on their knees all day in this "safe and cushy occupation", but their wives were also privileged enough to be able to work all day pushing coal carts and loading lumber, with their lungs filling with almost as much coal dust as their husband's! Also, you can bet that after a LONG week of hard work, they'd collect their pittance paychecks, and go lay around in luxury in their palatial shantytowns! Damned white privilege! 🤡🤪
@lainey7985
@lainey7985 Жыл бұрын
I did, too! Wonder if we’re related somehow.
@Delicious_J
@Delicious_J 4 жыл бұрын
I'm from round there and I came to this video after I found on ancestry.com that my great great grandad was a coal hewer, meaning he went directly to the coal face and broke the coal from it. he was 57 in 1911 and still working, and he died at around 83! I hope I've inherited whatever he had in him!
@hughmellerick4417
@hughmellerick4417 2 жыл бұрын
God bless ya, and his great memory. 🙏😊
@caroleholland9152
@caroleholland9152 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, my grandad and dad did this and they did it for the money to keep their families afloat. It was hard graft but there were not many options. They used to come home absolutely black, covered in coal dust. Their smile was perfect white. It was the only thing not to be blackened. Its sad to see the actual hardship they protected us from. We only knew the smile when they came came home. As a small child that meant everything.
@alexanderthegreat9663
@alexanderthegreat9663 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard people at my work at the end of the shift “ that was a hard day” I just smile to myself and think you haven’t even scratched the surface compared to these people!
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 2 жыл бұрын
True!
@gekiryudojo
@gekiryudojo 9 жыл бұрын
My Grand father, my Great Grand father and my Great Great Grand father. were Coal Miners west Lancashire
@oldgordo61
@oldgordo61 4 жыл бұрын
My 3x gt grandfather worked in the coalmines for at least 55 years til his death in 1881 at age 74. all his sons including my 2x gt-grandfather were coalminers all thier working lives and my gt-grandad and his brothers started working n the coalpits but they got out as soon as they could. It was a real hard life.
@John-nw8uj
@John-nw8uj 2 жыл бұрын
My father was born in WW 1. He left school mid 1920s age 14 on a Friday. On Monday he went down the pit. Undercutting, where small lads where used to cut underneath a seam of coal as far as they could. When coal was read to fall the boys would be dragged out by the Older men via a rope. His body was covered in blue black scars from this treatment as a boy. John
@josephbrennan4622
@josephbrennan4622 6 жыл бұрын
I am so glad that mining had changed by the time I got into it, But it was still hard going, Lots of people didn't realise that women actually worked underground as well as on the surface, and the pay was crap for what we did. This Movie should be preserved and shown to all school children of how it used to be.
@kl1346
@kl1346 3 жыл бұрын
I had absolutely no idea women were even "allowed" to work at the coal mines, nor that they actually did work underground. And coal mining is my family history. It's what brought my ancestors here in the 1910s and 1920s the very time period of the video. Every one of my great grand fathers immigrated to PA and worked in the coal mines. My grandmothers bother survived the depression well bc their fathers always had a job - in the coal mines. One grandma was "knocked off her "easy living horse" in 1938 when her father couldn't work anymore bc he got Black Lung. It was grim for them after that. He died just a few years later.
@Diogenes652
@Diogenes652 3 жыл бұрын
In Wigan Lancashire the women were called pit brow lasses
@hughmellerick4417
@hughmellerick4417 2 жыл бұрын
@@Diogenes652 God bless them. Great women.
@artzreal
@artzreal 2 жыл бұрын
this should be shown to all feminists
@mitchamcommonfair9543
@mitchamcommonfair9543 Жыл бұрын
​@K L Women & children worked underground in England until about 1850, then above ground after that
@IIVVBlues
@IIVVBlues 4 жыл бұрын
Marvelous that this film documentation exists. Thanks for posting!
@Thatkidnatesgarage
@Thatkidnatesgarage 4 жыл бұрын
The ways that they did things in the mines back the are so fascinating like how they brought the carts up thank u so much for posting this
@missmuffet3874
@missmuffet3874 Ай бұрын
I found out whilst researching my family tree that my 2nd great grandfather was working down the mines in Wigan at 9 years old. He was a “Drawer” which I found out was a the name for the boys that pulled the trucks underground whilst crawling on their hands and knees. 😢❤
@SUPERLEEDSYRA
@SUPERLEEDSYRA 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing footage. My Great Grandad was a coal miner in the Rhondda Valley around the time this footage was taken. Us today could never truly imagine the life that generation had, absolute heroes everyone of them.
@antonycharnock2993
@antonycharnock2993 4 жыл бұрын
My dads family were miners from Wigan who moved to Rotherham in 1919 to work at Silverwood Colliery. They may have worked here as they lived near the Haigh area of Wigan. I still have my dads uncles silver NUM long service badge.
@hughmellerick4417
@hughmellerick4417 2 жыл бұрын
God bless them. Extremely hard working people in a very very unhealthy and dangerous work environment. Without them, the Western World would not have had it's "industrial revolution". You may not have the device to see this footage in your hand right now. Think on these people, think on them with profound respect and gratitude. RIP
@beccabbea2511
@beccabbea2511 2 жыл бұрын
You comment is very apt. I count my blessings daily. I don't know yet if I had ancestors who worked down the mines but some of them worked in the steelworks. Another place that was hell on earth. I don't know where you live but if you live in the UK see if you can find a chance to go to the one of the Welsh Slate Mines. It's when they turn the lights out that it really hits home what these great men and women went through.
@roycraggs2058
@roycraggs2058 2 жыл бұрын
On his 14th birthday in 1926, my dad went to work underground at Thornley Colliery in County Durham. This was about 1 week after his 19 yeat old brother had been killed in that same pit by a roof fall. Their mother (my future grandmother) miscarried the baby she was carrying due to the shock. My dad did 51 years underground, retiring at 65.
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 2 жыл бұрын
When I do mining history talks I always tell people from 1850 to 1950 just over 100,000 miners died. Otherwise all they’ll think of miners is strikes, Scargill etc
@berniedarbyshire8482
@berniedarbyshire8482 7 жыл бұрын
Hard times for our ancestors .
@enthalpiaentropia7804
@enthalpiaentropia7804 6 жыл бұрын
Yes hard times and short life.. Daniel from North France
@anth7354
@anth7354 5 жыл бұрын
I lived across the way and spent most of my childhood playing in the ruins of the Mine Workings.
@frederickbowdler8169
@frederickbowdler8169 Жыл бұрын
So did I we lived at the boundary near new springs and Whelley. Messing about on the slag heaps with old conveyer belting!
@MrConan89
@MrConan89 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing record. I worked coal face in the 60/70/s. It was quite different by then. Always amuses me that the women's lib movement never sought to repeal the 1842 Act that prevented women working underground.
@bugzyhardrada3168
@bugzyhardrada3168 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@BilobateMadusa
@BilobateMadusa 2 жыл бұрын
No one from our generation would survive this. I'm glad to be alive today.
@edwardvickers5506
@edwardvickers5506 6 жыл бұрын
That looked grim,i bet they got payed a pittance for a day's graft. No benefits in those days,if you didn't work you starved.Amazing film,especially showing the rich family enjoyable a nice warm fire near the end.
@beccabbea2511
@beccabbea2511 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't called King Coal for nothing, coal was king in industry and the mine owners were the ones to benefit.
@creeves9855
@creeves9855 3 жыл бұрын
I lost my Great Grandfather in a pit disaster. He was 23 years old he left behind a wife with three boys all under 5 to the eventual tryanny of a new step father. As if life wasn't hard enough; then there's domestic violence as well. Definitely need a revolution. Life's not much different now minimum wage and no security of a future for the still unfortunate. A good contrast at the end of the video would have been to show the miners going home to their tiny damp and cramped dwellings rather than showing the bougois class in their mansion with servants.
@peteb8556
@peteb8556 2 жыл бұрын
My paternal Grandfather who I briefly knew, worked as a 'Hewer'/ a coal face worker, in the pits in Wigan at this time. He was 29 years old in 1911, and married with one son, who was my Uncle who I never met, born in 1910 down Miry lane, Wigan. My Great Granddad was killed down the pit in Wigan in the early 1890's .Worse was to come for my Granddad. He volunteered in 1915 and enlisted in the Army, during WW1. In 1916, he was shot through his right leg during the Battle of the Somme. And in April 1918, during the 'German Spring Offensive/Kaiserschlacht' , he was gassed and then shot through his right eye and taken POW .
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 2 жыл бұрын
A tough life with bad luck thrown in, cruel
@samensor8218
@samensor8218 7 жыл бұрын
I live in Wigan and I've been to where that pit was
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Women worked below ground until 1842, after then they often worked on the surface as the film of 1911 shows. In other European countries it was to be 1908 before women stopped working underground. Women work in US coal mines and in South African mines
@drghdrgh1140
@drghdrgh1140 7 жыл бұрын
some probably still worked "illegally"
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 6 жыл бұрын
True, I found an example near Falkirk three years later!
@andrewmitchell402
@andrewmitchell402 2 жыл бұрын
were women stopped from working down the pit because, they would be naked from the top to the waist
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewmitchell402 Hi Andrew The shocking findings of the Childrens Employment Commission led to their banning from employment in the 1842 Coal Mines Act, including working alongside naked men
@peteb8556
@peteb8556 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewmitchell402 ; yes that is true. Apparently it is warm underground.
@goodyeoman4534
@goodyeoman4534 5 жыл бұрын
real men and women who's hard work and sacrifice is still remembered today, at least by some. Imagine putting young millenials in that environment, they would not last a day...
@zenithslocos
@zenithslocos 4 жыл бұрын
Millenials are born from 1981 to 1996. Do you mean young Gen Z? They are 1997 to 2012.
@Delicious_J
@Delicious_J 4 жыл бұрын
I'm very aware that life was extremely difficult back then, please stop generalising everyone from that age group, it helps no one, does it?
@Mike-jv9cl
@Mike-jv9cl 2 жыл бұрын
Blame Thatcher for lack of mines, not the latest generation.
@goodyeoman4534
@goodyeoman4534 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mike-jv9cl No. It's not Thatcher's fault that the world began moving from coal to other energy sources. But cling on to your personal grudge if it fuels you (pun intended).
@peteacher52
@peteacher52 2 жыл бұрын
The men were paid raw peanuts for risking and shortening their lives but the women were paid the peanut shells, while the robber barons ate the roasted macadamias and brazils. Bastards.
@unclejoe7958
@unclejoe7958 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks.
@billmeade9029
@billmeade9029 2 жыл бұрын
I lost both of my grandpa's to coal mine accidents in southern WV one was where 18 men lost their lives known as the Holden 22 mine disaster, I don't have to much Imformation about the other one unfortunately I never got to meet either one , it was before I was born 😞
@joseantoniofernandezsuarez5054
@joseantoniofernandezsuarez5054 Жыл бұрын
Mineros del carbón del mundo. Gracias. Jamás seréis olvidados. Los que hemos sido hijos de mineros seguiremos siendo los niños del humo. Que viva la gente minera.
@davidevans3227
@davidevans3227 2 жыл бұрын
greetings from cardiff, south wales.. i know this is a bit different but one of my grandfathers was a coal trimmer, someone on a ship i think?? round about the time of the first world war.. anything that can shed light on this whole time is so interesting.. thankyou for sharing this..
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 2 жыл бұрын
Coal trimmers levelled off the coal in ships holds to maximise the amount carried
@randybaumery5090
@randybaumery5090 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I missed out.
@jackcro8825
@jackcro8825 6 жыл бұрын
What a life people then appreciated everything and worked hard to keep alive and feed their families
@comanchio1976
@comanchio1976 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciated everything? They were always striking because they were underpaid, always being paid off.and dangerous working conditions. I don't know what fantasy-land you're referring to, but it wasn't the Lancashire coalfield.
@hughmellerick4417
@hughmellerick4417 2 жыл бұрын
No worries, or "confusion" about gender back then, or other such tosh. Men were men. Women were the fantastic nurturers and supporters. Both worked extremely hard and we owe them so much for our current modern conveniences and luxuries. God bless all their memories.
@hughmellerick4417
@hughmellerick4417 2 жыл бұрын
@@comanchio1976 You have completely misinterpreted his meaning, friend. Try a small bit more diplomacy when strongly disagreeing with someone.
@davidbridge5652
@davidbridge5652 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Wigan and my grandad passed down the brass miner's lamp to my dad and hopefully me someday
@Ozymandias1
@Ozymandias1 2 жыл бұрын
The women look like they could have beaten most of today's men at armwrestling.
@randyscott9034
@randyscott9034 2 жыл бұрын
Read the road to wigen pier by George Orwell to fully understand these poor people lives better yet listen to the audio book here on utube it is an amazing piece of work as is down and out in Paris by orwell
@patrickbarrett5650
@patrickbarrett5650 2 жыл бұрын
Each of those miners worked a ‘stint’ and erected its supporting pit props to earn his pay for that day. It was me mechanised in my day but we still claimed to have completed our stint.
@andrewmitchell402
@andrewmitchell402 2 жыл бұрын
My Grandad was Overman at Bickershaw Colliery upto the Nationalisation of the Mines (1947) at which point he retired....
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 2 жыл бұрын
Tough job, there would be about 2500 men below ground at Bickershaw then. The pit had a life of 120 years. I was there late 70’s, 80’s
@emilmetallic6393
@emilmetallic6393 9 ай бұрын
of course, the "light after darkness" didn't apply to wigan pier coal miners. great vid. thx for sharing
@Thenorthernpipegroup
@Thenorthernpipegroup 2 жыл бұрын
My grand parents on my mother's side live at New Springs on Kirkless Street known in the late 20s as Nob Stick Alley you where a Nob Stick if you broke the strike All the men in the Cartwright family went down pit in 20s and 30s
@fins59
@fins59 2 жыл бұрын
OMG that's a real eye opener.
@samensor8218
@samensor8218 6 жыл бұрын
This was my great grandads pit
@neaheathfield1107
@neaheathfield1107 5 жыл бұрын
Mine too, and my grandad's.
@melmo5218
@melmo5218 2 жыл бұрын
This is invaluable. I've been down two pits and, tho it may seem a cliché, there were REAL men down there. Down to earth, no nonsense and good humoured. As I recall there were morphine safes every 200 yards. I've seen the floor rising up to meet the ceiling. Formative experiences.
@rosswhitton8463
@rosswhitton8463 4 жыл бұрын
No sound, just powerful images
@fl3162
@fl3162 9 жыл бұрын
Hard labour from my Wigan ancestors. I couldn't do it.
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 9 жыл бұрын
Summat to be proud of though Bill
@inmybox100
@inmybox100 5 жыл бұрын
And we think we have it hard today
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 5 жыл бұрын
IQBAL PATEL True Iqbal, there still very dangerous mines in China, Turkey, India and Columbia
@bephrem
@bephrem 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing footage. Glad no sound.
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 3 жыл бұрын
The original is silent, not sure what you mean by Amazon footage
@bephrem
@bephrem 3 жыл бұрын
@@coalboard6292 amazing*
@angelamary9493
@angelamary9493 2 жыл бұрын
Our Ancestors who built Britain ...hard labour and long hours ...
@duckweedy
@duckweedy 2 жыл бұрын
Think may be family members in that film. Ancestors that were pit brow lasses.
@larkatmic
@larkatmic 10 жыл бұрын
Wow. I didn't know there were woman coal miners. Fascinating. thanks
@comanchio1976
@comanchio1976 7 жыл бұрын
"Pit Brow Lasses" they were called. They didn't go down the pit, but they were outside in all weathers. My dad said that they worked harder than any of them, and that they were a rum lot!
@justin9268
@justin9268 7 жыл бұрын
comanchio1976 you don't shoot the hens you can only shoot the roosters. Can't work much harder with all that coal dust in your lung.
@oscarslinky8903
@oscarslinky8903 2 жыл бұрын
Hardtimes.Respect.x
@tiptoptiptop7389
@tiptoptiptop7389 2 жыл бұрын
AMAZING FILM.....!!
@TeenBeat
@TeenBeat 10 жыл бұрын
Thx for the info
@franceskronenwett3539
@franceskronenwett3539 2 жыл бұрын
I have the greatest respect for all coal miners. Their work was and still is one of the most dangerous imagineable and their wages were a sick joke. In the year that this film was made and many years afterwards, miners after doing a hard day's work and getting black from head to foot returned to homes where it was impossible to take a proper bath. To get a better idea of how grim lives were for these men one should read "The Road To Wigan Pier" by George Orwell.
@freehugs9223
@freehugs9223 2 жыл бұрын
Brutal.
@thomasbrookes2266
@thomasbrookes2266 2 жыл бұрын
my grandad WILF BROOKES saved the lives of 50 men at the WOOD PIT so i was told by my then boss at QUAKER HOUSE COLLIERY his name was DONALD ANDERSON who was a historian of coal mines
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 2 жыл бұрын
I knew Donald for many years, nice man
@jonathanturek5846
@jonathanturek5846 2 жыл бұрын
It's sad to me that the folks working so hard could only make the bare minimum to survive while the 4-5 guys at the top rake in exorbitant riches. Why they could not pay the workers a fair share ?? Why should only a few be allowed to prosper ?
@Uftonwood2
@Uftonwood2 2 жыл бұрын
It’s called capitalism.
@garettanderson6772
@garettanderson6772 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see a single rainbow and that's awesome.
@Mancheguache
@Mancheguache 8 жыл бұрын
Me great grandad were one o three survivors after Maypole pit disaster. Poor bastards. Time for a revolution
@sandrawood1772
@sandrawood1772 6 жыл бұрын
steve brown maypole pit disaster
@thurstonpowell8687
@thurstonpowell8687 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it got so hot down there we just worked in the buff
@chrispritchard3775
@chrispritchard3775 2 жыл бұрын
Correct Thurston i always wore shorts one time I had heat exhaustion (not nice) as a few others had. but most of the time boots full of water which was your own sweat. heat rashes where the norm special powders for your water bottle to replace all the salts and vitamins lost during the shift all this in 110 to 115 0c phenomenal it certainly wasn't holiday time I can assure you
@claudiaclaudie2266
@claudiaclaudie2266 2 жыл бұрын
pour ceux qui se plaignent des conditions de travail aujourd'hui, un petit tour en arrière peut faire réfléchir !
@2394Joseph
@2394Joseph 2 жыл бұрын
Beaucoup de ces hommes seraient morts en France en combattant les Allemands
@Stephan-bj3lh
@Stephan-bj3lh Жыл бұрын
You had to be tough to do this job, no doubt!!!not for whimps.
@importantname
@importantname 3 жыл бұрын
a long hard day, a hard short life: coal miner
@DavidWoods-rk8st
@DavidWoods-rk8st 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously to us old miners Davy lamps were very popular in mines due to methane
@omnapp9
@omnapp9 2 жыл бұрын
Whose those 2 guys in Hoodies at the begining, crawling.....frame 35, 36, 37.....time travellers...
@ianmcgill5654
@ianmcgill5654 2 жыл бұрын
Never mention white privilege, these guys are heroes.
@coloradostrong
@coloradostrong 2 жыл бұрын
"White" with a capital _W._
@toolmaker9411
@toolmaker9411 19 күн бұрын
If this isn't the slavery I don't know what is. Where is their reparation Mr Lammy?
@richardkell4888
@richardkell4888 2 жыл бұрын
Its very hard to comprehend the reality of long days, meagre wages and thin seams. Some of the hewing here seems 'staged' ie unreal. I think in reality it was much grimmer than portrayed in this publicity film. Poor things, my heart bleeds for them...whilst the rich mine-owners knew nothing but luxury.
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the coal hewers are in sunlight! Cine technology couldn’t manage conditions underground
@richards9407
@richards9407 2 жыл бұрын
My great Grandad worked down the pit for 20 years. He always dressed with handkerchiefs on his cuffs and bells attached to his ankles. He was a Morris Miner.
@ocsrc
@ocsrc 2 жыл бұрын
Right up until after WW2, in Pennsylvania and all across America, children as young as 3 years old worked in the mills, mines, and every other horrible job. I worked for a city in the Northeast and we had a museum in the city that had all the original actual records from the work houses, debtor prisons, and textile Mills that owned women and children. We had photos that went right up to the 1940 with trucks with metal cages bringing the women and children to work from the orphanages and prisons. In the late 1990s, worried about what might happen and the political nightmare if someone was to show these photos and records of children as young as 3 years old working in these Mills and families living in the row houses with 10-year-old mothers and fathers that had newborn babies, we were ordered to go in at night and remove anything that was questionable and burn it. Almost nothing remained The same thing was done at all of the coal mines The history of America the real history of America is never told and never taught and the only time it's ever spoken of now is after Dark when an elderly family member who was there as a child and saw this really happened shares it with the next generation. It makes me cry knowing how bad we were and still are
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 2 жыл бұрын
Very sad, hopefully evidence has survived in some mining areas
@jack_timber
@jack_timber 2 жыл бұрын
They were right hardy folks back then, maybe not to long lived though.
@johnbrown9092
@johnbrown9092 7 жыл бұрын
Not sure today's people would be up for that!
@welshlyn9097
@welshlyn9097 3 жыл бұрын
You are bloody right there well said John Brown
@thefilmlabuk
@thefilmlabuk 3 жыл бұрын
How on earth did they light these underground shots... it was hard enough in Coalface (1930s)
@thefilmlabuk
@thefilmlabuk 3 жыл бұрын
were they set up and filmed outside?
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 3 жыл бұрын
Set up on the surface with daylight or sunlight!
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 3 жыл бұрын
@@thefilmlabuk Yes!
@OKFrax-ys2op
@OKFrax-ys2op 2 жыл бұрын
Oh the good old days 🤔
@frederickbowdler8169
@frederickbowdler8169 Жыл бұрын
Strangely the scene at the beginning of the film looked the same some fifty odd years later .Coal meant money.
@lainey7985
@lainey7985 Жыл бұрын
Why did they want to legislate against the women’s employment? I admit that I’m surprised at the sheer number of women in this video. I wonder how many of these people were my relatives? I have centuries of ancestors in Wigan.
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 Жыл бұрын
Social reformers, often from non mining areas did not understand the ancient family nature of mining. They were shocked to see images in dirty clothing and felt they were ‘rescuing’ them from their ‘dismal’ lives. Over 90% of women surface workers were the wives of miners, their additional earnings were vital. Mjners in areas where good wages were possible occasionally voted for women’s employment to cease. You’ve got to admire the women organising themselves sending deputations to parliament. You might like the book I wrote; The Pit Brow Women of the Wigan Coalfield, my name’s Alan Davies
@lainey7985
@lainey7985 Жыл бұрын
@@coalboard6292 I will check it out! Thanks!
@lainey7985
@lainey7985 Жыл бұрын
@@coalboard6292 Would you ever consider releasing it as a Kindle book?
@lainey7985
@lainey7985 Жыл бұрын
@@coalboard6292 I have an ancestor who was said to have been raped by the son of a lord, so I was interested to see that many of the mine owners sat in the House of Lords. They lived in mining houses at the time, I think. Florida Smithies or something like that? I think it was in Haydock. Maybe Ashton in Makerfield. I’m always trying to figure out who the man was, because he would be my 3x great-grandfather.
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 Жыл бұрын
@@lainey7985 Hi That’s nasty, coalowner Lord Gerard had links with Ashton in Makerfield. Gerard family records may exist possibly at Lancs Archives Preston, correspondence or compensation documents may have survived, worth getting in touch with them. Let me know how you get on, my email is; pitheadbaths@aol.com Bye Alan
@paddyseamair6336
@paddyseamair6336 2 жыл бұрын
That's for lord Londonderry to get his castle !
@michaelmckenna2625
@michaelmckenna2625 2 жыл бұрын
No pie barms?? Bloody shocking
@kevinbaker6168
@kevinbaker6168 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt the wife and children would have gone out to wish him goodbye for the day because most minerz did a ten or twelve hour shift. So they would most likely been leaving before dawn most of the year, and returning home after sunset.
@thurstonpowell8687
@thurstonpowell8687 2 жыл бұрын
Those buggies weighed close to 500 kilo's once you gottem running there was a speed bump that would stop you dead if you weren't pushin fast enough. Well one time there was a mess of pitmasters standing behind that bump and they knew better.
@shuddupeyaface
@shuddupeyaface 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, in London
@johnnyp4001
@johnnyp4001 2 жыл бұрын
And people think they've got it hard today
@terrencejohnson85
@terrencejohnson85 2 жыл бұрын
Coal condemns the country from which it comes
@kl1346
@kl1346 3 жыл бұрын
Footage of WOMEN working in the coal mines in 1911!?!! I didn't even know women could work at the coal mines in 1911. For that reason this is very very special footage indeed.
@franceskronenwett3539
@franceskronenwett3539 2 жыл бұрын
Women used to work underground in the mines half naked and chained to tubs filled with coal. This stopped in 1842 when a Mines Act was passed forbidding all women and young children from working underground. The politician responsible for initiating this was, I believe Sir Robert Peel who also founded the modern police force in 1829. He was later to become Prime Minister of Great Britain. After 1842 women and children over a certain age were only allowed to work above ground.
@peteb8556
@peteb8556 2 жыл бұрын
These women were the famous 'Wigan Pit Brow lasses' . They were that famous some met Royalty in London by appointment and there were many postcards made of pictures of these women at work.
@boufontleflamingoetta8433
@boufontleflamingoetta8433 2 жыл бұрын
Women, working coal, in formal gowns!
@SmokingLaddy
@SmokingLaddy 9 ай бұрын
The ‘good old days’, no thanks.
@lilgeorge34
@lilgeorge34 2 жыл бұрын
These people were very hard workers the kids these days don't know what hard work is.
@bagoshite7073
@bagoshite7073 2 жыл бұрын
Those poor sods who did this.......
@HelloHello563
@HelloHello563 2 жыл бұрын
We need to bring this kind of work back and put the scum bags who rob and kill in the cities of American as punishment and keep them down there in the mines to serve out their time!
@Stiffytheenlightened
@Stiffytheenlightened 2 жыл бұрын
I once went down Sutton Manor pit near Wigan. Two men were working on the coal face, the rest were asleep in sleeping bags.
@coalboard6292
@coalboard6292 2 жыл бұрын
Must have been snap time and a very draughty face otherwise they’d have been sacked
@shirleymental4189
@shirleymental4189 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they all appreciated their white privilege.
@onlythewise1
@onlythewise1 2 жыл бұрын
worked for every nickel and was no free stuff
@anth7354
@anth7354 5 жыл бұрын
I suspect these blokes didn’t need to go to the gym after a days work,sorry and women
@MegaBait1616
@MegaBait1616 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine the TicTok Women now a days with road map tat's doing any of this honest labor ?? lol.
@bigunfromwigan
@bigunfromwigan 4 жыл бұрын
It’s grim oop north tha nose 👍
@amareshroy7732
@amareshroy7732 2 жыл бұрын
British opened few hundred under ground coalmines during 19, 20 century under private and company ownership. Enjoyed as a ex coalminer.
@garywinterbottom4930
@garywinterbottom4930 2 жыл бұрын
Dirty dangerous and bad for your health and Damn hard graft that was the lot of the miner back then.
@youngsteph1
@youngsteph1 5 жыл бұрын
I knew boys were around mining but never knew women were. They certainly worked hard & did their jobs well. Most of today's women wouldn't last a day, moaning about busting a nail, or getting dirty. The obese ones wouldn't last a few minutes.
@oddities-whatnot
@oddities-whatnot 2 жыл бұрын
You cant imagine many millennials doing this sort of work if it was like this today. They have it too easy nowadays in cushy comfortable jobs. They haven’t a clue what hard work is. An entitled society that expects everything to be handed to them on a plate.
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