A Decisive Victory? Fosi Audio V3 vs Aiyima A07 Measurement

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@youtubiers
@youtubiers Жыл бұрын
No background music please! Really distracting for me
@budgetaudiolabs
@budgetaudiolabs Жыл бұрын
Sorry I'm new to make a video. lol
@Pentenfi
@Pentenfi Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Otherwise good video
@spamcan9208
@spamcan9208 Жыл бұрын
​@@budgetaudiolabsMusic in the background is ok as long as it's not distracting. Next time change the balance and make the music quieter. Another music pitfall imo is when videos use the wrong kind of music. You can play two songs at the same low volume but the audience is going to perceive a fast tempo rock track as loud, while a soft piano piece fades into the background.
@driacozknows2211
@driacozknows2211 Жыл бұрын
... and don't talk so fast, please. Success on your new work. We all were needing to it. Keep going.
@Pentenfi
@Pentenfi Жыл бұрын
Honestly, KZbin needs exactly this type of objective review on cheaper gear. Thanks, I hope this channel grows!
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The audio community needs a huge injection of facts.
@bujin5455
@bujin5455 Жыл бұрын
14:03. I 100% agree! Volume and power really should be different controls! 1) I do not want to adjust my volume level when I turn the device on and off! 2) I do not want to place a bunch of wear and tear on the volume pot just because I want to turn on and off my device everyday.
@johncallaghan3097
@johncallaghan3097 Жыл бұрын
Hey! Good job! I'm here because Cheapaudioman recommended your channel and I'm glad to see I like what appears to be your first video. I'm looking forward to more. I've subscribed so I can see where the channel is going. Good luck with it! 🙂
@driacozknows2211
@driacozknows2211 Жыл бұрын
Me too.
@jakespivey3716
@jakespivey3716 Жыл бұрын
Great information in this video. The music and narration are crack up. The music makes me feel like I'm sunny and cheery; it's like I'm a child again. And the bot-like narration is also just as weird. I was considering buying another A-07 but, with the knowledge I've gained from this video, I'll probably go with the Fosi. the fact the Aiyama is downgrading it's components to increase their profit margins is very helpful to know.
@kraig7777
@kraig7777 Жыл бұрын
It's all I can do to force myself to watch this video all the way through because of that voice and music. In fact I can't do it. I turned it off when the machine said it was compiling a table. Good for it.
@DescartesRenegade
@DescartesRenegade Жыл бұрын
THIS is the type of rigorous testing and reviewig that needs to be done. Too much lip service on audio products these days.
@DanielMelendrezPhD
@DanielMelendrezPhD Жыл бұрын
All the best of luck with your new channel, dude! Subbed! (I just ordered one Fosi V3)
@unattributed1641
@unattributed1641 Жыл бұрын
Very good review. I appreciate all the work that went into this, and i hope you continue praying reviews like this one.
@budgetaudiolabs
@budgetaudiolabs Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your encouragement. I'll make more videos.
@tolun
@tolun Жыл бұрын
One of the best comparison and review videos I've ever watched. Please keep making such videos. Good luck.
@amanieux
@amanieux Жыл бұрын
would love to see a battle beween v3 or a07 vs a similarly priced vintage amp
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 Жыл бұрын
A "similarly priced" vintage amp would be about 5 or 10 watts per channel and most likely it would come in a plastic casing. This is one case where the $100 price is made possible by advancements in technology... not cheap construction.
@JoelOman1980
@JoelOman1980 Жыл бұрын
Nice test. I'm probably getting the V3 with the WiiM Pro Music streamer. Thank you!
@danielh12345
@danielh12345 Жыл бұрын
Hi Joel, just a heads up that the DAC on the WiiM isn't great. Otherwise that combo is great! I use a Wiim Pro into my DAC (smsl su-6) which then feeds into my A07. I like it. Adding an external DAC to the wiim definately makes a big difference in my opinion. Just figured I'd share, maybe you already have a dac or don't really care for now, that's fine too.
@JoelOman1980
@JoelOman1980 Жыл бұрын
@@danielh12345 Thank you, that's a good insight! Maybe add a Topping DAC in-between, since they are also quite small in size
@driacozknows2211
@driacozknows2211 Жыл бұрын
My Wiim mini is connected to SMSL SU-1 to two A07 and a subwoofer. Probably I'll replace them with V3.
@danielh12345
@danielh12345 Жыл бұрын
@JoelOman1980 yep! If you're looking for good budget value I've heard the smsl su-1 is good for the price. Might be worth looking into. Doesnt have a remote though if thats what you want. I have an smsl su-6 DAC which works great for me paired with the a07. Hope it helps!
@llee4225
@llee4225 Жыл бұрын
Your review and analysis was great and informative. Some comment on sound quality would be useful. Keep up the great work!
@scottlowell493
@scottlowell493 Жыл бұрын
The Fosi V3 actually measures cleaner than a $625 mini Gan 3 class D audio (brand) amp
@IHearEverythingDude
@IHearEverythingDude Жыл бұрын
We need more channels like that. Subscribed
@ChildrenOfDesire
@ChildrenOfDesire Жыл бұрын
Great first video, would be keen to see the SMSL A50 next.
@jimbendtsen8841
@jimbendtsen8841 Жыл бұрын
At least you're thorough on testing and actually have equipment that works. One "diyaudio" channel just said "my equipment died" and didn't measure it at all, instead of holding off until he got working test equipment.
@scientificaudiophile
@scientificaudiophile Жыл бұрын
Instantly subscribed. ❤ Fantastic video.
@spamcan9208
@spamcan9208 Жыл бұрын
A solid first effort. I'll give you a sub just for the teardown. It's nice to know what's inside these things and how they perform. I know others have complained about your music but it wasn't too bad and I got somewhat used to it. At a minimum turn down the volume next time and make sure it's the type of music that won't draw attention to itself. Despite what others have said, I would still recommend background music if you're going to use narration software. I could be wrong but I feel like it would balance out the voice and keep it from being its own distraction. Anyway, I look forward to your next video.
@rickbrookes9491
@rickbrookes9491 Жыл бұрын
I like this review and format. I wonder if there are going to be any more videos from this channel. It’s been three months and no new videos.
@dsgrts
@dsgrts Жыл бұрын
A very good review. I hope to see more reviews like this.
@solomonstewart1025
@solomonstewart1025 Жыл бұрын
The v3 needs a separate power switch.
@NeilBlanchard
@NeilBlanchard Жыл бұрын
I *suppose* I can deal with the "robotic" voice "speaking" the script? This is a bit grating on my nerves, frankly. But good info, at least. The A07 uses Nichicon 50V caps - the brand is quite reputable, but it's the 50V being too close to the max 48V power supply that is the main issue. My issue with the V3 heat sink is that it doesn't have any fins - surface area is how a heat sink works. Yes, there are vent holes top and bottom - but the path in between them is largely blocked by the circuit board. The heat sink, such as it is, blocks a number of the vent holes on the bottom. So - there are still a number of heat dissipation issues that are not ideal.
@HeyYall398
@HeyYall398 Жыл бұрын
I must commend the exceptional quality and depth of your video presentation. Being deeply rooted in the audio electronics domain, I truly appreciate the nuances you've brought forward. Regarding the Fosi Audeo V3, I'm genuinely intrigued to understand its performance metrics when powered by a 48V supply. Could you kindly share those specific test outcomes?
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done! The stress tests tell the story very nicely. I've been warning people about the A07s heat problem for a while now. This V3 design from Fosi appears to fix it quite nicely. Can't say I'm happy about the on/off switch on the volume control, though. That said... I've been using A07s in my "sound bar killer" setups for over a year and with a 32 or 36 volt, 5 amp power supply they perform admirably. I also use one in my main stereo system. I've never felt that it lacks power, in fact I seldom get it over 1/4 volume (about 4 watts). There is one negative that should be noted (and this applies to a wide range of these little China-Amps) ... *About half of the NE5532 op-amps in use are fakes* . They are re-branded "something else" chips and I have seen considerable variation in their parameters. I don't believe this is a manufacturing issue. It appears to be "supply side" as there are so many showing up in lots of different places. Of late I've taken to simply pulling the NE5532s out of these little amplifiers wherever I find them and replacing them with RC4558 chips, which cost less than a dollar each. It's a good fix and often there is an audible improvement. But please also be aware that beyond the initial "repair" swap, using more expensive or more exotic op-amps brings almost no improvement.
@ohmybonk
@ohmybonk Жыл бұрын
Incredible video, sir. Congratulations.
@chiccofraer9478
@chiccofraer9478 Жыл бұрын
Great review! It would be nice if we have measurements with 48V/5A PSU (max power, THD, etc). Not to mention, I subscribed to your channel.
@budgetaudiolabs
@budgetaudiolabs Жыл бұрын
I tested with my 48V PS and the output power can reach 220W (THD 1%)
@chiccofraer9478
@chiccofraer9478 Жыл бұрын
@@budgetaudiolabs Thanks for the info. 😊 Any unexpected problems with 48V PS, like protection kicking in or higher temps?
@budgetaudiolabs
@budgetaudiolabs Жыл бұрын
Very steady. Listening to music won't encounter any protection kicking in. The casing surface temperature is acceptable.
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 Жыл бұрын
@@budgetaudiolabs Did you monitor the bottom of the case, near the heat sink? That would be a fair bit warmer than the top.
@TheSynrgy1987
@TheSynrgy1987 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, My A07 hasn't had any protection mode or heat problems running off a 48v 12.5A Power supply, it gets warm but there's no cut out even with longer listening sessions / gaming sessions / movie/media sessions. It's had a few tweaks since i got it though, Op Amps, volume pot, binging posts, capacitors and thermal paste for the heatsink, the V3 looks interesting but not sold on the power on / off being part of the volume pot, maybe they'll put out something with a separate controls for that(aware of the BT20A etc). Or what may be nice something with an internal power supply.
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 Жыл бұрын
That depends how loudly you are listening ... at more or less normal 80db levels it's unlikely you're pushing it into thermal panic. FWIW... that A07 doesn't overheat because of the power supply. It overheats because people insist on pushing every last ounce of power out of it. On the 32 or 36 volt supplies it will clip before it overheats... on the 48 it just gets blistering hot when pushed almost to clipping.
@TheSynrgy1987
@TheSynrgy1987 Жыл бұрын
@@Douglas_Blake_579 See now I want to make it happen 😂
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSynrgy1987 LOL ... Okay... This is not something to mess with ... first of all it would be ear-bleed loud and second the thermal panic is not a feature, it's a last resort. The amp will do it a few times... but eventually it will shut down and never come back on. Best advice ... listen a reasonable levels and simply enjoy the music!
@birdyflying4240
@birdyflying4240 Жыл бұрын
My Aiyima 07 had no problems at all but like stated, some people push it to the limits, like driving a car with full trotle all the time. With normal use this is no item i think. Thermal setup could be better but at this price, i recently bought my second one for my subwoofer, $45 it's a no brainer. I use it with OPA 2604AP and a tube 03, great sound!
@davdidit6
@davdidit6 Жыл бұрын
Here because of Randy the @Cheapaudioman , looking forward to more. Well done.
@richh650
@richh650 Жыл бұрын
Excellent bench tests.
@victoresteva3246
@victoresteva3246 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison video, I'm undecided whether to buy the aiyima A07 Pro or the Fosi V3. I want to bi-amp, I have an integrated stereo amplifier, which of the two would work for me. Thank you.
@AlphaConde-qy7vi
@AlphaConde-qy7vi Жыл бұрын
Great review, insightful teardown and systematic testing 👌 I also agree with the cons you've listed. I hope a future v4 will address these issues, the lack of separate on/off switch especially.
@isometrus
@isometrus Жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison review. Immediately subscribed 😊 Have you tried other opamps on V3? Which one was preferred by you?
@budgetaudiolabs
@budgetaudiolabs Жыл бұрын
I'm now using the sparkos ss3602 dual op-amps. I really love their sounding.
@johncallaghan3097
@johncallaghan3097 Жыл бұрын
@@budgetaudiolabs One of those alone is as expensive as the amp itself -- I have one on my Aune DAC. I'd be interested to hear more about how the upgraded amp sounds and whether it's cost-effective. Does the Sparkos fit the case, by the way?
@raf.nogueira
@raf.nogueira Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, please make a similar review for the Fosi K5 Pro gaming
@D1N02
@D1N02 Жыл бұрын
No tone controls, limited space for discrete opamps. I would probably use this as a power amp with a pre-amp for more control and inputs.
@budgetaudiolabs
@budgetaudiolabs Жыл бұрын
I think the space is enough for discrete op-amps since I'm using the sparkos ss3602 now
@davehilling3944
@davehilling3944 Жыл бұрын
I use an A3 Pro with GE5654 tubes along with the A07 at the volumes I use it at it sounds pretty good. I use it as a patio stereo and even with speakers I am not a huge fan of it does quite well.
@driacozknows2211
@driacozknows2211 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I did, using my Musical Fidelity M2Si as preamp at same time powering the mids and highs, while the 2 A07 powering the basses (L&R) + a subwoofer. Amazing sound!
@anquant
@anquant Жыл бұрын
Amazing review! Please also test speakers
@peterwu831
@peterwu831 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I have recently purchased a lesser known brand of TPA3255 amplifier, the Windom BRU5 with similar heat management design as the Fossi V3. My personal experience of the Windom model is showing that case temperature rised to uncomfortable level with 48V power supply, but at 32V it performed well, granted I never “stress tested” it. One unique feature of the Windom is its built in DSP EQ, which is quite effective to compensate speaker frequency response faults. The EQ function requires additional Windows based software for $20, which I have previously purchased for Arylic Wi-Fi streaming modules. Another benefit of BRU5 is its built in Bluetooth 5.0. I’d be interested to see a comparison review of Windom BRU5 against Fossi V3.
@dieseldust27
@dieseldust27 Жыл бұрын
Aesthetically, the V3 reminds me of those Pro-ject mini amps.
@orgelkraft
@orgelkraft Жыл бұрын
It looks like I need to drill some holes in my A07s case and couple the heat sink to the case with some copper braid. I have some 2.inch pancake fans that might help too.
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 Жыл бұрын
A simple swiss cheese hole pattern above the heatsink should do the job. I have one client who drilled a 5-4-5 three row pattern of 3/16th holes into the top, right above the heat sink ... no more thermal shutdowns. (Be sure to disassemble the amp first...)
@rantao333
@rantao333 Жыл бұрын
more of this please, instant subsribe looking forward for more speaker and amp tear down, and internal inspection.
@shaunyweaver1144
@shaunyweaver1144 Жыл бұрын
Well you got my subscription . Not sure on the background music, made me want to go out skipping .
@jcisme
@jcisme Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Is there any info you know of on rolling the opamps ? Does it make a significant difference and which ones to go for ?
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 Жыл бұрын
See my other comment on this ... The reason so many people claim grand audible improvements with exotic (sometimes more expensive than the amplifier itself) op-amps is not what people seem to think it is. Some unscrupulous supplier has flooded the market with *fake NE5532* chips. About half of the ones I've come across are rebranded "something else" chips... I have no idea what they started out as, but they are not 5532s. I routinely replace the 5532s with RC4558 chips, from a credible supplier, and yes there is, often as not, an audible improvement. The 4558 chips cost about 75 cents each in quantities of 10. What I suggest, if you are bent on trying this, is to first replace the 5532 chips with 4558 chips and use that as your baseline. What happens is that the audio quality suffers because of the fakes. Then someone stuffs in a $70.00 sparko part and claims magnificent improvements... but if they'd taken the intermediate step of first putting in the 4558s, they could have saved themselves over $135 and gotten the same result.
@spamcan9208
@spamcan9208 Жыл бұрын
​@@Douglas_Blake_579good to know, I thought it was silly to spend so much on op amps when the these amps are so inexpensive to begin with
@gage4375
@gage4375 Жыл бұрын
Nice review👏👏
@charliebravo8036
@charliebravo8036 Жыл бұрын
What model power supply is the 42v you are using? Where can I find it? Love the comparison!
@robwatumd
@robwatumd Жыл бұрын
More content please, this is great!! No music in the future please. Test some popular AV Receivers? Subscribed!
@timlu5389
@timlu5389 Жыл бұрын
Great Video! There's a heated discussion around the load dependency problem of this unit on ASR. Wonder what's your opinion on that issue?🤔Do you think it will be a concern?
@Golommod
@Golommod Жыл бұрын
Keep the good work hopefully you will pick up them subs .
@MikkelMarienlund
@MikkelMarienlund Жыл бұрын
Thanks for an excellent test and video. A quick question: you say the capacitors in the A07 are unknown but in the video you can clearly see Nichicon written on the side of both capacitors?
@budgetaudiolabs
@budgetaudiolabs Жыл бұрын
That pictures were actually downloaded from forums which indicate aiyima swap/downgrade the capacitors from time to time.
@MikkelMarienlund
@MikkelMarienlund Жыл бұрын
@@budgetaudiolabs alright, thanks for clarifying. I got curious and had a look inside my own unit. I had Nichicons so I guess I got lucky 🙂
@bujin5455
@bujin5455 Жыл бұрын
10:20. The reason the v3's case temp hit 60c (vs 40c on the A07) is because Fosi is specifically using the entire case as a heatsink, so the case is seeing more of the actual heat being generated, and is actively working to dispel it into the room. Whereas the Aiyima's case heat is simply the byproduct of the air in the case heating up, and then heating the case (still air is a poor conductor, and thus most of the heat isn't being seen at the case, which is why it's overheating). This means the Fosi case measurement is MUCH closer to the actual temp of the TPA3255 package, where the Aiyima TPA3255 package temp could easily be up over 95c. (Most ICs start failing in the mid to high ~90c range.) 10:37. So this is the point, at 66c, the v3's TPA3255 package hit the same temp the A07's package was at, when measured at 40c, and went into thermal protection. That is a very significant difference, not only in operational duration (1.6 minutes vs 10 minutes), but in terms of thermal expression, at about 165% that of the A07! You could probably make the v3 run indefinitely if you simply pointed a fan at it, with no modifications needed. Whereas, an external fan probably will not greatly improve the A07. Of course, since this is a synthetic test, the v3 is unlikely to actually need active cooling in real world usage.
@rjzlwop3153
@rjzlwop3153 Жыл бұрын
Man, that was a great video. Thank you so much my question for you is the last time I owned a Fossett audio products and tried to use banana plug clips. It would not stay in the back they kept slipping out. Did you run across that with this unit?
@DannerPlace
@DannerPlace Жыл бұрын
I bought one, thanks.
@mattburgess2
@mattburgess2 Жыл бұрын
What was the wattage output using the 48 volt power supply on the V3? Great video 👍 Mine should be here this week sometime.
@budgetaudiolabs
@budgetaudiolabs Жыл бұрын
Could reach around 220W with 48v PS
@shadowkiller5520
@shadowkiller5520 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, are you part of the Fosi audio testing program? Also, nice review!
@budgetaudiolabs
@budgetaudiolabs Жыл бұрын
Fosi reached out to me and invited me to test this amp. This is my first attempt at a test video, so it may be a bit rough around the edges. BTW it really took time. lol
@zodiacfml
@zodiacfml Жыл бұрын
nice review! I'm recently came back to audio gear interest with these budget amps. The aluminium casing on these products is absurd, it just seals in heat which is bad for capacitors and peak usage while adding to cost, just to have a professional more expensive look. Can you review the ZK or Wuzhi boards? Can you also review this KGUSS PA8 or similar of different branding?
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 Жыл бұрын
The aluminum housings also limit RF radiation from the PWM switching. At 330khz these little amps, out of their case, will interfere with the AM radio broadcast band (550 to 1600 khz) quite badly.
@nakfan
@nakfan Жыл бұрын
A great and very thorough review 👍 Immediately subscribed... Per (DK)
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 Жыл бұрын
Is that line out jack controlled by the volume knob ... or is it fixed level?
@driacozknows2211
@driacozknows2211 Жыл бұрын
Fix, like A07.
@fantasian2
@fantasian2 Жыл бұрын
Awesome objective review data and comparison! I wish more reviews consisted of objective data. Great video.
@Nordraw
@Nordraw Жыл бұрын
Just love these phony computer voiced reviews , almost seems real
@jacquesmertens3369
@jacquesmertens3369 Жыл бұрын
4:49 You don't know the capacitor brand on the A07? Is has Nichicon written all over it. What exactly are you suggesting?
@budgetaudiolabs
@budgetaudiolabs Жыл бұрын
Hey there, I just wanna express A07 changed the capacitors from time to time. They used to incorporate Nichicon ones but sometime later they changed.
@stuartpalmer3404
@stuartpalmer3404 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great video. Do you ever do tests using 6 ohm and eight ohm loads? I think this could be very useful for your viewers.
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 Жыл бұрын
In general ... if it passes the 4 ohm tests it's going to be just fine at 6 or 8 ohms, which represent less stress on the amplifier.
@sfucapstone
@sfucapstone Жыл бұрын
Great video! Might be cool for you to try using your voice and different background music. Good luck with your channel!
@Jimsathome
@Jimsathome Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I am a recent owner of a Aiyima A07. I was hoping the V3 would have been released earlier, but Fosi's offerings at time of purchase were at best equal to the Aiyima A07. Then it just came down to price. Were the measured differences you saw audible? The ability of the V3 to run at maximum output on a 48 volt power supply, most folks won't be needing that kind of performance. How did it do on a 32 colt PSU? Thanks for the ideas on ventilation for the Aiyima A07, although for my needs to date it's temperature rise has been minimal.
@IntelligentElephant
@IntelligentElephant Жыл бұрын
7:25
@birdyflying4240
@birdyflying4240 Жыл бұрын
if you have bat ears could be audible.. The 07 has no audible noise, dead silent. These are already great levels. Components surroundig the chip could make some difference, op amps make difference, i use the OPA 2604AP, cheap and sound great.
@johnnyirizarry6489
@johnnyirizarry6489 Жыл бұрын
Wowww!! amazing video, my friend...this is my first time on your channel, and I immediately subscribed...thank you for your unbiased, scientific approach...I bough an Aiyima A07 a few months ago...it sounded really well but dumped it at the bottom of my closet as it repeatedly shutoff when playing it a little louder...
@Panslapper
@Panslapper Жыл бұрын
….maybe a XLR or 6.35 Jack balanced version with an orange light instead of blue…
@OlegHorn
@OlegHorn Жыл бұрын
Привет из России! Пожалуйста не останавливайтесь. Делайте ролики снова и снова. Это прекрасно! Я подписался.
@johngreek
@johngreek Жыл бұрын
I will buy The next version that has Amp In to use as power Amp
@rahliE777
@rahliE777 Жыл бұрын
Wow first video, gets a shoutout and linkup from the Cheapaudioman?!? Congrats great review!
@gilpena9591
@gilpena9591 Жыл бұрын
Subscribe from the chief audio man channel! Get glad to see one of these videos and another producer of these, getting back into audiophileism in myself. I guess you could say I had been my whole life. My first record I listen to on my own wason a record player with two records I found in my parents closet. Superfreak by Rick Jamesand Little red Riding Hood, buy I'm not sure who
@MaLaLiberty
@MaLaLiberty Жыл бұрын
overload at 66,6 this amp is made for rock! 👹🤘
@amanieux
@amanieux Жыл бұрын
do you hear any difference while doing a blind test ? thanks
@don7680
@don7680 Жыл бұрын
Nice job, really well done testing and video. It would be better without the music.
@jojomojo989
@jojomojo989 Жыл бұрын
Where can one find the power supply used in video?
@RainCloud210
@RainCloud210 Жыл бұрын
Multi tone test plz. SINAD and THD are not enough to identify good amp.
@Panslapper
@Panslapper Жыл бұрын
It is a subjective choice for most people as to what a ‘bargain’ is these days…what some say is a ‘budget choice’ often leaves me thinking they are not in touch with the real world. The V3 is more than one amplifier, for example, the Yamaha AS201 is not. The V3 can be made to sound very similar to an muscular class A/B or a well detailed class A/B amplifier at the switch of two small components at very little cost. Switching the op amps can literally give 2 maybe 3 different sound signatures or in other words sound similar to an new Denon, Rotel or Cambridge Audio…and that’s a fact! I can pick out different op amp that will give me the sound of each one of those amplifiers and just pop them into the V3, now that’s a bargain! The op amps cost a few Pounds/Dollars, the amplifiers that they will sound like cost a few hundred and who is going to buy 3 of them at well over a £1000 or $1300 unless they are very rich? There is also desk space which the Yamaha will simply not allow. These days many, many people only use one input. I have had numerous big amps with many inputs and still found I only ever really used one and that is mainly for a dac over the last 10 years. Then the is the DAC itself that while many amps like the Yamaha have Bluetooth included they will never match the quality of an modern external dac. I had a Rotel A11 Tribute that has superior Bluetooth over the Yamaha and I still never used it and wasn’t better than the external DAC that I was also using. To be honest Bluetooth is awful, it always has been and still is. It was invented for telephone calls and not music. Then we have Airplay which far superior to Bluetooth and with something like the Wiim Mini plugged into a SMSL SU1 and an V3 you will have a far superior sound quality and optional digital inputs than the Yamaha and also cheaper if you shop clever! Something else to consider is the an external dac will be far superior to 99% of all current amplifiers on the market today up to £1500/$1800 and even more! The Yamaha is not a flexible as it is being shown here, it is for adding extra equipment (primarily analogue based) that is also going to cost you a lot more money and only has one choice of sound signature which is good if you like the sound of the Yamaha but you are stuck or having to return it if you don’t. Then there is maintenance, the V3 will be far easier to repair if something goes wrong. So is the Yamaha such a bargain and does it have the convenience that comes with the V3…you decide for yourself but for me I would prefer of the flexibility of the V3 in regards to sound quality and signature, the size in regards to space and maintenance. There is also the fact that you can have more flexibility when choosing speakers as you are not stuck with one stock sound as you would be with the Yamaha as well as other untouchable amplifiers. You can tailor the Fosi Audio to probably any set of speakers in regards to sound and power! If you have hard to drive speakers then the bigger power supply will compensate for that as a smaller power supply will compensate for more efficient speakers…so you may save money there too…
@Paxmax
@Paxmax Жыл бұрын
🤣 "Industrial look" Take a gander at the steel mesh + fan modded A07!!
@dieseldust27
@dieseldust27 Жыл бұрын
Common, Fosi! Put some tone controls in there 😅
@maxtrue9744
@maxtrue9744 Жыл бұрын
Drop the background music, its annoying. I like the videos content.
@jimbendtsen8841
@jimbendtsen8841 Жыл бұрын
That background "music" sounds like a preschooler show.
@jhuneclarino
@jhuneclarino Жыл бұрын
How it stacks up in TB10D?
@johntan4835
@johntan4835 Жыл бұрын
I had both of them even replaced their op amp with sparkos and i feel v3 have a bigger sound than the a07 ,sound quality is almost the same, though price wise if you opt for the 48v power supply of the v3 almost the same
@carrephilippe1842
@carrephilippe1842 Жыл бұрын
Interesting Thanks
@hudsonbissell6946
@hudsonbissell6946 Жыл бұрын
Great video, but please ditch the annoying background music next time!
@НиколайТюриков
@НиколайТюриков Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@kakj1963
@kakj1963 Жыл бұрын
The cheap audio man sent me here. Good vid
@VossieNL
@VossieNL Жыл бұрын
I am looking for the A07 case modification threads or sources where do i find them? 3:55 i love the one on the top right.
@murruti1967
@murruti1967 Жыл бұрын
muy buenas pruebas. Te lo has ganado.
@h0rk3d
@h0rk3d Жыл бұрын
No jack...?
@joealley1196
@joealley1196 Жыл бұрын
372nd Sub here. Looking forward to more videos like this.
@joshuawang5859
@joshuawang5859 Жыл бұрын
Fosi audio wins!
@weirdfishes9961
@weirdfishes9961 Жыл бұрын
Make the music stop.
@mrboat580
@mrboat580 Жыл бұрын
89 watts would be impressive if it was into 8 ohms. Using peak watt ratings into 4 ohms is misleadingly exaggerated for products designed for the home. I would rather pay double the price for a stable 100 WRMS into 8Ohms instead of yet another 50 WRMS chip amp. I have some of these products (BT30D Pro) and even on my 4 Ohm bookshelf (I have multiple pairs of varying sensitivity) speakers, the volume control is 75% or more for anything approaching higher performance levels, which does not bode well for rated distortion levels either. While these amps are 'okay' for average SPL (loudness) on desktop systems, they fall into the age old categories of, "If it sounds too go to be true, it probably is," and "There's no such thing as a bargain." Sorry but, this old boy won't be falling for anymore of these exaggerated gimmicks again.
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 Жыл бұрын
On the supplied 36 volt supplies you can expect a very clean 75 watts RMS from each channel, both channels driven. On 4 ohms you an expect 130 watts per channel before exceeding the power supply's limits, causing it to shut down. And yes those are by measurement ... The TPA3255 chips at the heart of these amplifiers are highly sophisticated Class D circuits. You will find them in lots of places, like high end home theatre, pro-audio amplifiers, powered speakers and... yes, even in high end stereo products. These little amps are not gimmicks... they represent advances in technology that, both simplifies amplifier design and makes it afar more efficient. The price reductions are following the simplified design and mass production techniques.
@wcg66
@wcg66 Жыл бұрын
I’m using an Ayima 07 instead of my Audiolab 8000P power amp. It can handle my inefficient speakers and room size no problem. Power is power and these amps are powerful.
@driacozknows2211
@driacozknows2211 Жыл бұрын
My sweet spot is almost 7 feet from my speakers at 9 o'clock knob. Both 36V-5A and 48V-7.5A power supplies.
@ccll-l8u
@ccll-l8u Жыл бұрын
How does V3 look like a copy of someone else's product, hahaha
@budgetaudiolabs
@budgetaudiolabs Жыл бұрын
I think its ventilation design is unique among those mini amplifiers.
@ccll-l8u
@ccll-l8u Жыл бұрын
@@budgetaudiolabs But they are a reference to the AIYIMA A07 video for the modification, not an idea from fosi. If they fosi have their own uniqueness and their own ideas, only then is it worth going to my purchase.
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 Жыл бұрын
@@ccll-l8u I dunno ... I'd say going from a unit with known issues to one that corrects those issues is a worthwhile step.
@driacozknows2211
@driacozknows2211 Жыл бұрын
... and it is the best Fosi Audio product ever made.
@j.whisper2379
@j.whisper2379 Жыл бұрын
Who cares what they look like??
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 Жыл бұрын
Given that my system is in my livng room ... I do.
@qddk9545
@qddk9545 Жыл бұрын
Most peoples wife's do 🙂
@jmac7947
@jmac7947 Жыл бұрын
Sent here by @cheapaudioman. Great video!
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