A Deep Dive into MLP’s Most MYSTERIOUS Character!

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Oddish Hime

Oddish Hime

Күн бұрын

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@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
Hello to everyone who’s found me through this video! This was actually my first time making a video talking about MLP, and I wasn’t really sure how it would be received, so thank you very much for all your kind comments! 💖 I’m currently working on a rewatch of the series (I’m halfway through season 8 right now) so will be making more MLP videos soon! 🎉
@Howaboutyes11
@Howaboutyes11 5 ай бұрын
Aww congratulations ❤❤
@colorbar.s
@colorbar.s 5 ай бұрын
omg im also currently halfway through season 8!!!!!
@Pinkywinkykinky
@Pinkywinkykinky 5 ай бұрын
Her being raised poor in a small town as a pegasus is interesting for sure
@SuperRedarmy123
@SuperRedarmy123 4 күн бұрын
i hear idw comic going make mlp g4 comic origins of cadence name comic is rise of cadence
@fataleflare
@fataleflare 5 ай бұрын
The fact that they turned her origin story into a book and not an episode in S4 where Twilight could ask Cadence how she became a princess and how she delt with the responsibilities early on.
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
Such a waste of potential 😭
@Howaboutyes11
@Howaboutyes11 5 ай бұрын
RIIGHTTTT
@fataleflare
@fataleflare 5 ай бұрын
There are so many stupid episodes in S4-9 that could have been replaced with some backstory for Cadence!
@coffeecaim2527
@coffeecaim2527 5 ай бұрын
I like how Celestia and Luna are sun and moon sisters and Cadence and Twilight are love and friendship sisters
@PatriotMapper
@PatriotMapper 5 ай бұрын
It’s kind of sad how you have to read the IDW comics nopony talks about the G. M. Berrow novels you can only find in the middle of juvenile fiction at the library to fully grasp Cadance’s character. She is far from my favorite character, but she is a great one nonetheless and pretty underrated. I wish we saw more of her and her backstory in the show.
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
Us Cadance fans are eating CRUMBS!!!! I think she’d be a more popular character if the show had told us more about her!
@xlemzy
@xlemzy 5 ай бұрын
Right, she has more personality in the comics and she was actually doing much more in there fighting wise compared to the show. Like “Siege of the Crystal Empire” and even in Season 10. I wanna know how she became an alicorn fr and her transformation
@Shivery
@Shivery 5 ай бұрын
I also want the alicorns lore like Celestia and Luna
@anthonyrausch5708
@anthonyrausch5708 5 ай бұрын
I am telling you this right now people “LAURN” will “HAVE HER PONY SHOW” the way “SHE WANTED IT”…. Someday; No corporate meddling; “THE 3 PRINCESSES OF EQUESTRIA” will have “THERE” say “SOMEDAY”…. you watch 🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄
@AstronomicalJelly
@AstronomicalJelly 4 ай бұрын
yeah i also heard the books had something about her backstory, but unfortunately they're harder to access than the comics :/ i have been meaning to read the one about cadance tho, it's like the only time we get insight we about her lmao
@Miscellaneous_Minx
@Miscellaneous_Minx Ай бұрын
Technically, I think what Celestia meant was _equestria_ hadn’t seen a natural alicorn birth before since she and Luna were born/came into being/however they were created before equestria itself was established
@Valentineatelier
@Valentineatelier 4 ай бұрын
It’s so sad she was created purely to profit off the hype of the 2011 British royal wedding sigh 💔 Candance you deserved so much more
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 4 ай бұрын
wait was that the real reason?! I remember the episode airing around the same time as the wedding and made a joke about it with my friends at the time, but didn't know if it had ever been confimred anywhere!
@Valentineatelier
@Valentineatelier 4 ай бұрын
@@oddishhime I don’t know FOR A FACT if any execs have outright admitted it but the timing and marketing around her debut episode and HOW HARD they were pushing the “royal wedding” buzz word during that time makes it seem rather obvious. Another mlp KZbinr (I think shunks who makes great content) brought it to my attention. And it makes sense as to why her and shining armor seemed to have been introduced out of nowhere with no other thought put into them at least at the time, because they were made to sell toys and profit off all the wedding fever hype 😖😖😖
@Good_luck_.
@Good_luck_. 4 ай бұрын
She was ALWAYS my favorite, the fact that she started out as a pegasus always made me think she was special, like an under dog of sorts
@melonpeach9723
@melonpeach9723 5 ай бұрын
I’m really upset we didn’t get more screentime and interactions from Princess Cadance. She had a great introduction, and definitely proved herself worthy of her Princess title. I loveee her backstory in the chapter books, and I love how sweet, and caring she is. The saltiest I’ve ever been is when she made an appearence in the finale, but didn’t join them for the final fight. I wanted to see her and Chrysalis banter in a fight, and would’ve loved to see her lead her subjects to wage against the terrible trio, especially since their whole thing is that they’re filled with love.
@audreytwo
@audreytwo 4 ай бұрын
I was thinking the reason she's Twilight's babysitter might be because her brother was friends/romantically involved with Cadence for a long time, maybe even before she went alicorn.
@prench
@prench 5 ай бұрын
it's crazy because she's a straight up alicorn!! with such pretty colours and yet they decided to just never use her?
@rockmangurlx4973
@rockmangurlx4973 4 ай бұрын
I’ll admit her debut always left a bad taste in my mouth but the fact she started as a pegasus and not a unicorn is interesting in that magic would be an unfamiliar thing at first.
@TheBlueStar16
@TheBlueStar16 5 ай бұрын
I don’t know if there is a Canon answer for why Prince Blueblood is Celestia and Luna’s nephew, but my personal theory is that he is like one of the last descendants of the original unicorn monarchy from a hearths warming tale. He’s the last descendant of Princess Platinum
@chobusmin8202
@chobusmin8202 5 ай бұрын
Thats a cool theory! My personal theory/head canon is that prince blueblood is the son of some ponies that were close to celestia and luna and something happened to them, therefore celestia and luna took him in.
@dreamingwildlycovers3544
@dreamingwildlycovers3544 4 ай бұрын
Fun fact: There is an alternative version of cadence that is evil in the MLP IDW reflection comics. In the alternative universe she's the princess of hate and her cutie mark is a broken crystal heart. It's also stated that in this alternative universe, she's the most evil and most powerful among evil Celestia and Luna. It's also hinted that she may have a transformation similar to Nightmare Moon and Daybreaker but sadly it's never mentioned again and we never get to see it.
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 4 ай бұрын
Oh this goes HARD?!?! I need to read more of the comics
@dreamingwildlycovers3544
@dreamingwildlycovers3544 4 ай бұрын
@@oddishhime there epic!!! :)
@art-eroflore
@art-eroflore 5 ай бұрын
Although I would love to have concrete Cadance backstory, I do think kids shows are stronger when they leave the world a little mysterious. That way, kids playing with the toys can come up with their own backstories for the characters and play those out. Also kids who haven't seen every episode just need a grasp on Cadance's personality to start playing with her toys. (I do think she was designed to sell toys, but so was the whole franchise, and I'm a fan of the 80s cartoons and toys too so I've made my peace with that- she doesn't have to be a bad character just because she was made to sell toys!) I preferred earlier on in the show when they didn't flesh out as many non-pony species, kingdoms, ancient ponies- I love worldbuilding lore, but it began to feel a bit tangled even for me.
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
I agree! i'm at season 8 on my rewatch at the moment and the lore is definitely feeling a bit too deep and complex!
@bashfulwolfo6499
@bashfulwolfo6499 4 ай бұрын
Even if Cadence was made to sell more toys, I always really liked her and considered her one of my favorite Princesses for the show. I do wish we got to see more of her, especially more of her and Twilight since they have such a sweet bond
@kiatamera4931
@kiatamera4931 5 ай бұрын
From the theories I read, the long-flowing mane (that the other princesses have ) is directly dependent on how much magic the pony in question has, this is why Mistmane (who isn't an alicorn) had the same flowing hair as Celestia, Luna, and (later on) Twilight.
@7ulm
@7ulm 4 ай бұрын
Finally, a “deep dive” video that it’s not 6 hours length
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 4 ай бұрын
If only there was more info to dive into!
@locallayschipbag
@locallayschipbag 2 ай бұрын
Do you know what a deep dive is?
@CommanderDarcy
@CommanderDarcy 5 ай бұрын
Princess Cadence is my absolute favorite princess no doubts about it she's just so sweet and fun and the mysteries around her make her so compelling, i absolutely love her
@ladyalmathea7610
@ladyalmathea7610 5 ай бұрын
IDC what anyone else says, Cadence is best princess. Who else of the royal alicorns can 1. Run a kingdom as an actual Queen rather than a princess, (even though she still keeps the title of Princess), 2. Has a significant other ruling alongside them and assisting them consistently, and 3. Be a caring, attentive mother to a baby alicorn, and a damn good one at that?
@FantasticFawnleap
@FantasticFawnleap 5 ай бұрын
I honestly wish twilight wasn’t the main character.
@FantasticFawnleap
@FantasticFawnleap 5 ай бұрын
I wish it was someone else someone smarter and more sane.
@vamplovin
@vamplovin Ай бұрын
Well the reason why she can find love and have children is bc her job is easier..😭😭😭 she has time to do all of that. But i still love cadance
@ladysnepi
@ladysnepi 5 ай бұрын
its so unfortunate that a bunch of her lore comes from the comics, which are harder to access- she's totally my favorite, and i wish she had been utilized in the show more
@acjmonkeyaj7139
@acjmonkeyaj7139 5 ай бұрын
I think the inconsistency regarding Twilight not recognizing Cadance at first might be because either Twilight only ever knew Cadance by the latter name and not her full name, or Twilight got so used to calling Cadance by the latter name that she forgot what Cadance's full name was. Both are equally possible. Not to mention, Twilight did say herself that she was having trouble staying in touch with her brother in the Canterlot Wedding episode. Not directly, but it was somewhere along those lines. It's actually the same thing with Applejack and Coloratura. Applejack didn't recognize Coloratura's name until Pinkie showed her Coloratura's cutie mark. Long names are easily forgettable, but nicknames are easier to remember.
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
Oh yeah definitely!
@CommanderDarcy
@CommanderDarcy 5 ай бұрын
you're so right!
@cerisemin
@cerisemin 5 ай бұрын
Oh for sure! Always called my aunt “auntie Liz”. One time someone asked me who Giselle was and I was like I have no idea I’ve never heard of her. Then a few days later I was reminded that Giselle is Liz 😅
@KeitieKalopsia
@KeitieKalopsia 5 ай бұрын
As a kid, Candance reminded me of my older cousin Kimberly, so she was naturally one of my favorite characters. I guess her being colored like strawberry ice cream helped
@Hailey_LiterallyNoOne
@Hailey_LiterallyNoOne 5 ай бұрын
I saw on one YT short about a theory that cadence could have originated from a previous princess. The video is titled "Is princess Cadence a reincarnation" and it goes over a comic backstory for Sombra and the princess at the time Princess Amore. And how she died but it was possible she could be put back together. Then comes our cadence or princess Mi Amore Cadenza. With similar names and similar cutie marks. Idk it's an interesting thought.
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
I think the chapter books briefly mention that she’s a descendant or distant relative of princess amore, but it’s hard to find much info!
@cammies7365
@cammies7365 5 ай бұрын
My head canon was that born alicorns are immortal (like Luna and Celestia) and “awarded” alicorns (like cadence and twilight) were just powerful and deemed royalty. The show destroyed this from every angle and it irritates me but whatever lol
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
There’s so many confusing implications and the shows staff refusing to answer all the burning questions we have is so frustrating!
@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012
@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012 5 ай бұрын
​@@oddishhimei wish they'd answer these questions but i'm kinda glad they don't. gives more room for headcanons
@alejandromolina7270
@alejandromolina7270 5 ай бұрын
This is what happens when Hasbro doesn't hire a lore master behind their very popular IP.
@PurPurAstie
@PurPurAstie 5 ай бұрын
when flurry heart was revealed, the princesses say that she is the first born alicorn. so nor Celestia nor Luna were born alicorns. or this dialogue was a very confusing error, which i doubt with how mlp has really good writers
@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012
@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012 5 ай бұрын
@@PurPurAstie they said first alicorn born in equestria. celestia and luna predate equestria
@juliamoraes2885
@juliamoraes2885 4 ай бұрын
I thought she was the long lost descendent of princess Amore. Was that ever confirmed or hinted at?
@girlleavemealone--
@girlleavemealone-- 3 ай бұрын
looking it up it says she was stated in the comics to be a "very distant relative of amore" however the comic has contradictions to the show apparently
@boncawoncaa
@boncawoncaa 4 ай бұрын
I love this video! I hadn’t thought about the fact that in the show, we know next to nothing about Cadence, despite the fact she’s the sister-in-law of the main character. Her kingdom and presence in the show are also quite important. I remember really loving her personality and her character design and it’s strange how there were never episodes about her origins or even how she fell in love and met Shining Armor in the first place. Celestia and Luna kind of got the same treatment as well. It’s really unfortunate because these are awesome characters who I would’ve loved to know more about.
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 4 ай бұрын
I’m glad the writers thought to make Luna and celestia feel more like actual characters in the later seasons, it’s a shame Cadance didn’t get as much attention!
@toby.theram2496
@toby.theram2496 5 ай бұрын
I'm just a bit confused about the whole "why is flurry heart an alicorn" question, because, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it obvious that it's due to Cadance being the only one out of the four known alicorns in the whole series to actually give birth? Perhaps if the other alicorns did too, they'd also give birth to alicorn babies.
@y4ketsuki
@y4ketsuki 5 ай бұрын
i agree its not that big of a deal how ever the ponies made this a huge problem.ponys are dumb
@toby.theram2496
@toby.theram2496 5 ай бұрын
@@y4ketsuki whoa now- that's a bit aggressive. I don't think anyone really made a problem of it, i was just questioning why the fandom was making it into this huge mystery, seeing as I'm new to the fandom. I was just looking for an answer to my question 😅
@y4ketsuki
@y4ketsuki 5 ай бұрын
@@toby.theram2496 oh my bad haha sorry i acted a little agrassive.aslo welcome to the fandom we were lonely without you!
@toby.theram2496
@toby.theram2496 5 ай бұрын
@@y4ketsuki awww! Thanks! I've always liked the show and I've dabbled in fan content here and there, but never with much forethought, so i thank you for the warm welcome!
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
Idk, it just irks me a little as the show made a big deal out of her being the first alicorn birth ever, considering it’s established alicorn status is earned, then they never elaborated on it
@EmmaMtH
@EmmaMtH 5 ай бұрын
i like that idea about the colourful wings / flowing mane, it checks out with cozy glow in the finale too! now i'm wondering what would happen if an earth pony became an alicorn
@lunarhexagon8108
@lunarhexagon8108 Ай бұрын
given what I took from show, havent read comics or other books and I have no idea even how they should be considered for canon, since many things seem so different there from show at times, I would say Celestia, Luna and Cadence got "power up" to become alicorns similarly as Twilight got it, this thing would be either natural thing that can occur or something Starswirl or other mage set up, in theater episode with Celestia is told that Starswirl just found two ponies who dont get drained by moving sun, nothing about them being alicorns, it was like random lucky find on sacrificial altar that two ponies were unaffected by that, if there were some alicorns from some Skyros place (as G5 tells), I assume that would be reason to try those out and not just finding them by chance (so yes, headcanon of mine is that Skyros story is made up by Opaline, as there I have more than one issue wiht it), power up to alicornhood may be permanent or temporal as we seen, even when drained of magic, princesses kept wings and horns while Cozy Glow lost them or gained based on her power level, which may be either that her transformation was different thing or just it was for so short time so she havent got fully established as one on biological loevel and her horn was purely magical construct, kinda similar to Sunny in G5 with holographic wings and horn, only alicorn born would be Flurry, yes, it was tolt that it was first one born in Equestria, but also was told they have no idea how it could happen, and it is quite apparent, Celestia nor Luna had foals and Cadence is first alicorn who went with getting one, so that is one of reasons whole alicorn land from G5 dont work, if it did, I guess it would be not as surprising that alicorn was born to Celestia and Luna (unless alicorns there never got born but just manifested of nothing because quantum physics technically may allow that or something), also whole G5 alicorn origin falls apart as it makes both Celestia and Luna assholes and idiots to be mean to other alicorn that threatened world then and they never bothered to even tell there is whole alicorn land and just came to be gods to ponies, so G5 story of alicorns is made up and it is only way I can see any sense in that (and would fit in Opalines character too, canonically she lied about events to Misty and it was revealed so we have no reason to believe any her words), it is that or G5 isnt canon continuation for G4, despite G4 events are canon to G5 apparently to some degree
@perrilewis180
@perrilewis180 5 ай бұрын
I think they explained that she's a reincarnation/child of the rightful ruler to the crystal empire before sombra took over.
@chuu970
@chuu970 5 ай бұрын
Honestly I really really love Cadence, ever since she was revealed I just really felt drawn to her. It's so sad that she wasn't that included in the show😕
@Jgumyjymghjvmhvj
@Jgumyjymghjvmhvj 5 ай бұрын
She was always a childhood favourite for me alongside Luna
@fiveythefox3318
@fiveythefox3318 5 ай бұрын
Calling her a cash grab is beyond unreasonable in my opinion; She does give off marketable toys energy but her design and personality in both the IDW and show can easily put her in top tier with the other princesses for being a nod to the original color pallet of mlp toys and the fact she did parkour in a mind shaft to find her true love while being badly hurt physically and mentally. She is also a wonderful mother let us not forget whom she is raising?!?
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
I so badly wish the show was more like the comics 😭
@PetLover1903
@PetLover1903 4 ай бұрын
someone in the comments here said her introduction into the show was very likely as a cash grab for the Royal wedding that was happening at the same time.
@coffeecaim2527
@coffeecaim2527 5 ай бұрын
I can't lie, I wish we got a reboot of gen 4 that fleshed out the lore more and stayed true to Lauren Faust's vision
@artificial-stars
@artificial-stars 5 ай бұрын
I feel that Discord is also a mysterious characters. We know pretty much nothing of his backstory… Where is he from? How did he get his powers? Is he the only one of his species? How does he exist? Was he born as the lord of Chaos? Does he have some relation to the devil? Was he created in a freak accident? Where did he get his powers from? Is he god? Is he satan? How old is he? Did he know Celestia as a child? Can he move between realities and universes? Was he around when Equestria/Earth was made?
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
I think I know what my next deep dive will be!
@hylianevalink
@hylianevalink 5 ай бұрын
in the comics we don't really get a glimpse of his backstory but we know the title of "Lord of Chaos" is because he manipulated everyone's memories in the past to believe the deeds of the Lord of Malice, Cosmos, were his because Cosmos was so wicked and so dangerous, even Discord thought it was better for her to be forgotten. At first Discord just liked playing harmless pranks but since he did that, everyone thought he was some sort of evil deity that would try to harm them, which forced him to self isolate and made him bitter toward the rest of the world.
@gobsmr
@gobsmr 4 ай бұрын
20:10 that's a fun theory, but it doesn't make much sense to me. i've always assumed that the flowing manes were associated with their magic power. for example, mistmane has flowing hair as a pillar and she isn't an alicorn. when luna is transformed back from nightmare moon, and her power is drained, she loses the flowing mane. twilight didn't gain flowing hair until the finale too. i like the idea that pegasi get fun wings though! thats so cute
@lanab.3940
@lanab.3940 5 ай бұрын
My biggest question is her cutie mark! She literally had the crystal heart as her cutie mar before anyone knew it existed. Opens so many questions. Did she not know what it is until then?
@kactilove5543
@kactilove5543 5 ай бұрын
She probably just thought it symbolized love at first. But it was probably fate. Also isn't she a reincarnation of princess Amore?
@kawaii801
@kawaii801 5 ай бұрын
She’s the third princess obviously but there was a time that princess cadence just came out of nowhere like she was the third princess and that was a pretty big deal, including her marriage and stuff, but who really is she and we still don’t have a lot of answers we know she babysit twilight butwe don’t have a lot of stories about her like Celestia and Luna
@crys_cornflakez
@crys_cornflakez 5 ай бұрын
I love cadance so much. She’s such a wonderful older sister character. Her immense love is regal yet deceptively subtle. Yes she’s the princess of love but the way she constantly showcases love is so inspiring.
@dmclegg66
@dmclegg66 5 ай бұрын
They never said Celestia and Luna weren't born alicorns they said the birth of an alicorn is something Equestria has never seen Celestia and Luna were born before equestria was founded. I basically ignore gen 5 but it's cannon the Celestia and Luna are born alicorns. The crystal hart spell comic goes into who Cadance is and how she became an alicorn. I like Candace but I don't like what they did with her they made her look weak always calling Iwilight for help insid of fighting herself. Candace was Twilight foal sitter before Twilight was Celestia's student you can see it in the fall of Sunset shimmer comic.
@MarianneStudios
@MarianneStudios 5 ай бұрын
Really well communicated! The ambiguity within her character (and arguably little thought put into it from the show staff) annoys me so much! (also off topic but I really love your makeup
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
Hehe thank you!!
@RuthBlack-dd4ig
@RuthBlack-dd4ig 4 ай бұрын
The reason she was created wasn’t great, but I truly just adore her
@asiodioweioi
@asiodioweioi 5 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the Cadence/Shining Armor backstory from the comics, definitely two of my favorite issues... it's so funny and Andy Price's art is amazing
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
I really need to read more of the comics! I wish they were more accessible
@kittyself
@kittyself 4 ай бұрын
they just announced a bishoujo figure of her, i really hope she turns out nice
@sparkelswift
@sparkelswift 5 ай бұрын
the cartoon in the wedding episode twilight is clearly confused by the fact that cadance merries her brother, is she DID help them get together this would not be the case and feels like retcon
@amandaslough125
@amandaslough125 5 ай бұрын
They didn't exist as characters before higher ups telling the team they need to make a pink princess to sell if they wanted Celestia toys to stay white. So really it has to be headcanoned fixed by either they broke up for a spell, or Twilight really was so lost in her own world by the time the pilot happens she didn't remember any meaningful details of her family and friends.
@Luna_Austen
@Luna_Austen 4 ай бұрын
She understands eventually. She was just confused at first because they referred to her as "Princess Mi Amore Cadenza". Then, Shining Armor says...Twilight, that's Cadence. And she understands. It makes sense she wouldn't know her full name, as she was just a foal and it's easier for a kid to say and remember one name instead of a long one. She doesnt seem shocked after she knows it's Cadence, just excited. So it would still make sense regarding her helping them get together. She could have been thinking he was marrying someone else and didnt tell her he broke up with Cadence, or maybe they did break up or lose touch for a bit, and they didnt tell her they recently got back together.
@dysfallacyyt
@dysfallacyyt 5 ай бұрын
my theory is shes reborn as princess amore from the idw comic. thats the only theory i have because i dont really like alicorns with no backstory. the idw middle school is really cute as well
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
I’ve seen a lot of vague statements from the shows staff about her being a “descendent” of amore, I love that theory!
@ChibitaliaLoverEiri
@ChibitaliaLoverEiri 5 ай бұрын
We should've gotten a mini series or web series showcasing the lives of some of the side characters that only get a small amount of screen time
@Birdsflight44
@Birdsflight44 5 ай бұрын
the unfortunate situation with the comics is that the more I look into it, the more Im finding reason to believe that secondary education is not really a thing in Equestria. (all the more reason to put Cadence with the anxious Twilight as a foalsitter) I mean, the most damning thing is how both Spike and Twilight are clueless about highschool in Equestria Girls. (Maybe Twilight would be oblivious from specialty education, but Spike knows his shit) but literally the ONLY direct highschool reference in the show itself that I can find? Fluttershy's drawing of pony Revolutionary Girl Utena, and how real is pony anime??? Even the friendship school doesn't teach additional fundamental curriculum, its all just friendship. So that's Neigh Anything, one of the curest pieces of pony comics, basically invalidated. This is why I honestly wish the comics had just been their own take on g4 from the start. There's some fundamentally different ideas from the show that's a ton of fun on their own, but break when put under the pressure of the insane volume of G4 lore.
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
My biggest gripe with mlp is the inconsistency! I’ve always taken media outside of the show with a pinch of salt 🥲
@NobodyUndefined
@NobodyUndefined 5 ай бұрын
I love Cadence so much, she was my favorite character growing up. I think it's such a shame that her lore in the story is so scarce and what we do have is unreliable and not exactly canon. Like those comics don't make sense, supposedly Twilight got babysat by Candence BECAUSE Shining wanted to date her and Twilight knew Cadence loved her brother. And then they get together and become a couple, which Twilight probably knew about as they get together after Cadence babysits her ONCE and it's pretty much confirmed that she babysat her a lot so Twilight would've known. So then in Canterlot wedding, why did Twilight flip out about her brother marrying a princess? Like his high school sweetheart was a princess, it's insulting to imply that Twilight wouldn't put 2 and 2 together. And on top of that Canterlot wedding doesn't make sense in of itself because Twilight isn't stupid, she's close to Celestia and should be aware that there are only 3 Princesses and that Cadence is one of them.
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
I guess the comics were released way after the wedding episode which explains some inconsistency, but yeah, twilight not figuring things out is so out of character 😭
@Theonly_z_Official
@Theonly_z_Official 5 ай бұрын
​@@oddishhime I mean yeah- although the main 6 is most likely brainless like me, but 30% of the time instead of like me with 99%
@MewDenise
@MewDenise 5 ай бұрын
I feel like the writers just added in another princess without thinking about the lore, and then realized it made no sense so they had to come up with something fast to explain her existence. The wedding and story wouldn't have been as grand if Cadence was just a normal pony
@amandaslough125
@amandaslough125 5 ай бұрын
Candace was created by force from the higher ups. Such a tight leash that goes against her initial vision is what made Faust leave the show. Super early Celestia toys painted her coat in pink. They wanted her to be accurate to the show, so were told to make a pink princess to sell instead. Candace was the result.
@gobsmr
@gobsmr 4 ай бұрын
I mean that's basically what happened lol. They needed to sell more toys so they thought a pretty pink princess and a wedding would work.
@kayc_x3
@kayc_x3 5 ай бұрын
Fun analysis! Cadence sure does bring up a lot of questions about alicorns and their lore, that was only made worse by the princess-ification of twilight xD and flurry heart. Regardless she’s a sweet character with a really beautiful design and singing voice, and a canterlot wedding is one of the best episodes of the show! Btw I love your BAB of her! I also have one I got second hand and I’d like to figure out how to get her wings to stand up straight
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
I have a lot of the BABs and their wings are such a pain! If they get a little bent they seem to never go straight again! 😭
@gobsmr
@gobsmr 4 ай бұрын
Even though Cadance was added for monetization reasons and doesn't really have a backstory, she's easily my fav princess.
@Celeste_51
@Celeste_51 4 ай бұрын
I love cadence and am fascinated by her 💖🎀 I think it’s fun to make up your own ideas about her backstory. I don’t like how flurry heart was born an alicorn though personally, I feel alicornhood should be earned, and she should have perhaps grown up as unicorn or pegasus and gotten wings/horn at her coronation.
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 4 ай бұрын
I wish they’d at least given a reason why she was born as one!
@judesagad4161
@judesagad4161 5 ай бұрын
Princess Cadance is one of my favourite Alicorns and ponies of MLP fim since season 2. I love her character, traits and her design is so cute. I love her title the princess of love, the best foal sitter turn sister in law for Twilight and wife of Shinning armor I really love her story throughout the series.
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
seeing so much love for her makes me so happy!
@goosebums67
@goosebums67 5 ай бұрын
Wait, if Twilight helped Cadence with getting together with Shining Armor, how come she acted so shocked when he found out she was still seeing him a and getting married to him? I get Cadence going by her full princess name threw her off, but she never put together that the alicorn her big brother has been seeing for most of their lives would be the one he was marrying?
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
My best guess is that the comics came out after the episode, and that the writers didn’t really think about it 😂
@inserthahafunniusername9656
@inserthahafunniusername9656 4 ай бұрын
Maybe they broke up at some point but never told twilight they got back together?? Idk
@late_prince8945
@late_prince8945 5 ай бұрын
I like the theory that she is a reincarnation of the previous ruler of the Crystal Kingdom.
@Fourger14
@Fourger14 5 ай бұрын
Nicely put together summary. Cadance is super fun.
@analothor
@analothor 5 ай бұрын
Oh god I forgot about the blood relations too, that just raises further questions because it implies at the very least either lunas had foals, or that either one of them had spouses at one point, element too big to gloss over 😖
@AndromedaKai
@AndromedaKai 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, Cadance was my favorite character for a long time. She's awesome!
@lissettgonzalez2707
@lissettgonzalez2707 5 ай бұрын
Princess Candace is the best character in mlp! She is underrated I wanted a toy of her when I was a kid ever since the wedding episode
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
Maturing is realising Cadance is the best!!
@acetrainerkat
@acetrainerkat 5 ай бұрын
I believe that the books and comics are considered Cannon B. So, Cannon unless said otherwise by the show
@moonly999
@moonly999 5 ай бұрын
Cadance is my favourite character, i'm glad people are talking more about her
@djpon7969
@djpon7969 5 ай бұрын
I’m so happy that Princess cadence have book about her. I do like her design and backstory.
@djpon7969
@djpon7969 5 ай бұрын
I do like the wedding special.
@Howaboutyes11
@Howaboutyes11 5 ай бұрын
Sameee God bless you!❤
@djpon7969
@djpon7969 5 ай бұрын
@@Howaboutyes11 Thank you, God bless you too.
@Howaboutyes11
@Howaboutyes11 5 ай бұрын
After this video, I realize how much I love cadence like she’s such a good character and a good pony 🩷🥺
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
Yay!! I’m glad to share the love for her!
@WholesomeSauce1
@WholesomeSauce1 5 ай бұрын
she’s my favorite princess in mlp
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
She’d be mine if twilight weren’t such a fantastic main character!
@princess_jl_2005
@princess_jl_2005 5 ай бұрын
The other day I was scrolling through the wiki fandom pages for the show. I found Cadence's. I'm not sure if it is reliable or not but it goes into the comics as well as the show. According to this wiki page, Cadence is apparently distantly related to Princess Amore and Amore was the last ruler of the Crystal Empire before Sombra took over. I don't know if there is a time line for how long Sombra was in control or how much time had passed between when Amore ruled and when Cadence took over. If this is true, there's still a lot of unknown questions. How many generations were in between the two and how exactly are they related? Like if Amore had relatives, what happened to them? How were they able to continue the family tree? Could these ponies relation to Amore be a part of why Cadence was abandoned as a young pegasus? The shift of princesses is also pretty interesting. In present Equestria, to be a princess it has to be earned, but back then, it was through relations. In the early ages of Equestria, the two princesses we are aware of were both unicorns, these unicorns being Amore and Platinum. But as soon as Celestia and Luna became Alicorns was when the idea that only alicorns were princesses and suddenly Cadence also became an alicorn. If the idea of her being related to Amore is canon, maybe her becoming an alicorn was always meant to happen to fit with the modernized idea of what type of pony is a princess? Cadence's cutie mark does resemble the Crystal Heart. If Cadence is distantly related to Amore, maybe that is why her cutie mark is what it is and why her talent is tied to love as the Crystal Empire lore is tied to love as well and also why she was placed in charge of the Crystal Empire? I don't know if any type of media ever explained why Cadence was suddenly taking over the Crystal Empire, but it could be speculated that either the kingdom just needed somepony to lead them or maybe there could have been a deeper meaning.
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
I couldn’t find an explanation anywhere either, but your theory is great!! I totally forgot to mention princess mi amore, I couldn’t find enough facts on her 🥲
@princess_jl_2005
@princess_jl_2005 5 ай бұрын
@@oddishhime Yeah. The only information I found about her is what is mentioned within her character page from the Friendship Is Magic Wiki.
@MewDenise
@MewDenise 5 ай бұрын
I wish we got her backstory in the actual show and not just books
@zerosenseofself
@zerosenseofself 5 ай бұрын
I'm so so glad that your channel was recommended to me through this video! your voice and speech make me relaxed, I think it has this sort of soothing effect. 💗Thanks for collecting all the info that could be gathered of Cadance, my biggest confusion had always been about Twilight's reaction to the Canterlot wedding invitation rather than the out-of-show inconsistencies. How could she not have put 2 and 2 together? Makes me scratch my head a little lol.
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! I’m actually very self conscious about my voice so I’m glad to hear you like how it sounds! 🥲 Part of me knows twilight’s reaction was for the sake of drama but it bugs me so much that she doesn’t immediately figure it out!
@TheCommenterDragon
@TheCommenterDragon 5 ай бұрын
All I'll say is that out of all the Alicorn princesses, Cadence never got anywhere near as much love as Celestia and Luna. And I too can understand why she got so much hate because she was such an out of nowhere character just like Shining Armor both of whom people believed should've been mentioned at some point in either season 1 or early on in season 2.
@OilyValves
@OilyValves 5 ай бұрын
Really well put together video! You’ve clearly done your research, and I’ve not seen Cadance covered like this before.
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!! I’ve never seen anyone talk about her much either so figured it was up to me! 😂
@chidinmaegerue3893
@chidinmaegerue3893 5 ай бұрын
I don't think that flurry heart was the first naturally born aliucorn because i find it improbable that both Celestia and luna being sister were chosen. Point: 1. Both celestia and luna lack the ability to communicate with ordinary ponys which celestia openingly admited to never doing. 2. They are too old, if we go by their age then both twilight and furry heart should both be around by the time of new generation
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
I feel like celestia and Luna could easily have been destined for the role, much like they keep saying twilight was!
@purplepartytigerd1598
@purplepartytigerd1598 5 ай бұрын
Been working on an MLP story for probably about seven years now. I started it with the goal of creating my own history for a lot of the grey areas in MLP canon. Current backstory for Celestia and Luna is they were born in a distant city of alicorns (now lost). Ponies there were born as unicorns or pegasi, and had to earn what they lacked themselves (instead of, for example, being given wings like Twilight.) And sometimes a full alicorn would be born. Celestia and Luna were taken away from this place at a very young age, so they don't recall much about it. I'm sure a lost city of alicorns is an idea that's already been used somewhere, but it's become too engrained in my story to change it now.
@charitymerritt8036
@charitymerritt8036 4 ай бұрын
​@purplepartytigerd1598 in the new mlp series on Netflix, the main villain actually comes from a place where alicorns lived (I can't remember the name off the top of my head) and knew Celestia and Luna as fillies. Your theory isn't too far off. The new series isn't as good as fim, but they do touch on it quite a bit throughout the series.
@angel_foodcake
@angel_foodcake Ай бұрын
im sorry, unrelated.. but where did you get your bow necklace from?? its super cutee
@oddishhime
@oddishhime Ай бұрын
I’ve actually had it for probably over 10 years so I’m not too sure 😅 I’m pretty sure it was just a supermarket clothing section like marks and Spencer, so I’m sure you can find similar ones easily! :D
@Barnacl3_Boi
@Barnacl3_Boi 5 ай бұрын
This is the lore video I didn’t know I needed!
@LightOffArchives
@LightOffArchives 5 ай бұрын
Nice video, I didn’t know the bit about Vanhoover, and the fact that A.K.’s house is near there which I found interesting
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
I feel like I learned so much trivia while doing my research for this video!
@Sinestrab
@Sinestrab 4 ай бұрын
I love this video but I was so interested in your MLP collection!! The Power Ponies pack is so cute
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 4 ай бұрын
I’ll have to do a collection tour at some point! 🤩
@dollieelli
@dollieelli 5 ай бұрын
Cadance my beloved🫶🏻 My fav since I watched the premier of A Canterlot Wedding:3
@liutoturtle5195
@liutoturtle5195 5 ай бұрын
Can i say that even tho, im a big critic of how her character was handle you still did an interesting job at analazying her character
@minkyway86
@minkyway86 5 ай бұрын
First time seeing a vid from you. It was very informative and well researched. Good job.
@Hawbitten
@Hawbitten 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I was recently wondering the same thing.
@lynistired
@lynistired 4 ай бұрын
Your makeup is sooo pretty and your voice is very soothing. I love cadence and her design! Your video was a neat watch and your thoughts are so organized lol. I hope to see more videos !!
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 4 ай бұрын
Hehe thank you, my thoughts being called organised is the last thing i ever expected to hear! 😂🫶🏻
@seerum
@seerum 4 ай бұрын
i do think it would have been better if she weren’t an alicirn and was rather a unicorn like the first princess of the crystal empire who’s name i can’t recall
@lastsatisfaction518
@lastsatisfaction518 4 ай бұрын
Amore.
@gobsmr
@gobsmr 4 ай бұрын
i remember there being a huge fan theory that cadance was a descendant of her! there's a bit of in show lore that hints at it👀
@lastsatisfaction518
@lastsatisfaction518 4 ай бұрын
@@gobsmr Her full name aside, not really.
@kiichigo8009
@kiichigo8009 5 ай бұрын
Amazing video!! I truly wish they had done more with her!!
@lilachodan4941
@lilachodan4941 5 ай бұрын
2:12 I always wondered why she is so connected to this kingdom?
@cherryr9285
@cherryr9285 4 ай бұрын
people think she might be the reincarnation of the original crystal princess, Princess Amore
@tearoses9940
@tearoses9940 4 ай бұрын
Her cutie mark seems to have the Crystal Heart. You’d think the book writers exploring her backstory would’ve incorporated that, but 🤷
@rahell62
@rahell62 5 ай бұрын
this was such a nice video to watch, the research and interest in the character come across really well! very sweet
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@lunaamore2713
@lunaamore2713 5 ай бұрын
If they want to sell toys , then they need to be more Productive in giving Characters back stories. People like Characters with back stories. If they want to sell more toys They need to get with their program. Their excuse of just wanting to sell toys doesn't fly.
@wizardfoxangel5300
@wizardfoxangel5300 4 ай бұрын
0:48 There's definitely more Comics of her than the Show. 4:29 Oh Cool! You do read the Comics 😊
@WEIRDALCLIPZ
@WEIRDALCLIPZ 5 ай бұрын
I NEED MORE OF YOUR MLP CONTENT THIS WAS SO GOOD OMG!!! 🤭🙏🙏🙏
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
Expect more soon!
@ruthngeny
@ruthngeny 5 ай бұрын
You are so BEAUTIFUL! Your eyes are enchanting. Great video!!
@casi9095
@casi9095 5 ай бұрын
super informative thank you! which plush is the one you’re holding? so cute!
@eggzuki
@eggzuki 5 ай бұрын
that is the princess cadence build a bear i believe! they have special outfits and such, but i think you can only get them through thrifting :(
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
She’s the Build a Bear Cadance! I think she was discontinued around 2018 which sucks, the line is such amazing quality!
@helioshawkk
@helioshawkk 4 ай бұрын
omg i exclusively know you from twitter and was completely unaware that you had a yt so this video is a very pleasant surprise! Love cadence but wish she got more of an actual story
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 4 ай бұрын
Haha it’s a small world!!
@Pixielocks
@Pixielocks 5 ай бұрын
LETS GOOOOO
@gwendeseminat8r
@gwendeseminat8r 5 ай бұрын
I like this reuptaking of MLP scholarship. This stable excitedness, this self respect in it. It is very hopeful.
@tristanchan4949
@tristanchan4949 5 ай бұрын
Of all the pony characters in my little pony friendship is magic, Cadance is my favourite along with Twilight, sort of Fluttershy, and Starlight after she reformed, but my favourite character is Spike just because I find him cute a lot. Just not all the episodes though anyways. Twilight is also the pony that took care of him too (well sort of Princess Celestia too as mentioned in the comic story of when Twilight tells the other main five of how she got Spike), which I’m also thinking (this is mainly based off some fan fiction stories about Spike), that Twilight and Celestia were kind of adoptive mothers to him (even though it was confirmed in sparkle’s seven that they are adoptive siblings, I still think Twilight and Spike are adoptive mother and son along with Celestia too) which is why I consider Twilight my favourite as well. But anyways back to Cadance, after watching the season 4 episode, Equestria games (which is now mainly my favourites of the episodes), I feel like there should’ve been more episodes with Spike and Cadance together after the third time that they were together, which is times they are a changeling just because I agree the second one with them wasn’t that good due to Spike being whatever and also since Twilight and Cadance get along, they should’ve had a bit more for Spike with her too next to Twilight. Also (in some other fan fiction stories with Spike and Cadance together), it was likely that Candace also foal sitted Spike as well, some time after Twilight hatched him and was of course at the school for gifted unicorns.
@analothor
@analothor 5 ай бұрын
They really should have kept the Alicorn count to just luna and celestia I had come to terms with the contrary but the last three episodes really broke all manner of logic sunbutt and moon butt are thousands of years old but then they just retire WHAT!?! 😤 I know I know it's been said, but at least the comics did a slightly better job with candance
@ruintheday13
@ruintheday13 5 ай бұрын
Why? You guys don’t make the rules. I’m surprise that Luna retired since she was gone for thousands of years l
@berserker3414
@berserker3414 4 ай бұрын
It was obvious that the final goal for Twilight was to become the ruler, it's the whole point of her journey, to become an empathetic and wise leader, something the sisters couldn't do (they suck at communicating to each other)
@hopefullynadeshka
@hopefullynadeshka 4 ай бұрын
u just earned a new subscriber ☝️ also I never stopped to think abthe flowing mane and colorful wings.. interesting!
@mochiemy
@mochiemy 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining some of the story to us, I enjoyed the video and Princess Candace is a pretty and great character to me😃😃
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🥹
@EmmaFriedlander
@EmmaFriedlander 5 ай бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!! Cadance is my favorite character along with Starlight Glimmer!
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 5 ай бұрын
I love starlight too! 🥰
@lilachodan4941
@lilachodan4941 5 ай бұрын
I always loved her. She is so beautiful
@Sugarbunyzz
@Sugarbunyzz 4 ай бұрын
I know this is off-topic but where did you get your my little pony plushy it’s so cute and I can’t find it online
@oddishhime
@oddishhime 4 ай бұрын
It’s the build a bear Cadance! The line is discontinued now so your best bet is eBay/vinted/mercari/other secondhand stores and sites!
@Sugarbunyzz
@Sugarbunyzz 3 ай бұрын
@@oddishhime thank you sm ily 🦄✨
@joehumpston7937
@joehumpston7937 5 ай бұрын
I never started following MLP until 2016. I got interested after watching the death battle video, Deadpool vs Pinkie Pie.
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