A Deep Dive On The Tragic Downfall of Ex Disney Child Star Orlando Brown

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[@SpammytheHedgehog]

The fact the Orlando Brown's manager, Solomon admitted that he saw the signs of Orlando's breaking point and chose to ignore it all was just evil.

[@redmoon383]

I feel like this is the worst part of the story I've heard so far, but I've only just hit the doctor phill section

[@Katz_Pajamas]

Not just ignore it, but also exploit it by continuing to let him do all these odd interviews where he ruins his image even further. Some of it's laughable, but overall just very very sad.

[@hitzoneproductions7858]

@@Katz_Pajamas you're beautiful

[@Tandor97]

@@hitzoneproductions7858 You think that professionally done head shot is them?

[@scotiadunlop]

@@Tandor97 I wonder if they like my goatee… 😆

[@whyisthisdifferentnow]

I briefly met Orlando Brown in 2007, when I worked as a server. He was VERY kind and polite, however I could tell he had been through some things. I have worked with victims of SA for awhile now and I know the look of hollowness when I see it. Everything about him screams abused. It did then and it does now. Writing him off as just an addict or “crazy” is flat out disrespectful and dismissive. People need to stop doing that.

[@aje-olokunsChile]

Thank you. People who unfortunately know it, see it clear as day.

[@AGULL]

💯this. they do the same with kanye.

[@misskuni]

Ya I yelled that at the screen after a few minutes of watching this.

[@HaintblueRee]

He reminds me of my older cousins(I'm the only girl in my family) and it's like seeing a family member go in a downward spiral, and it makes me soooo sad to see him be labeled crazy and be disrespected.

[@shrbrhsjdbw]

@@misskuni pretty weird

[@Cicigyal]

Disney Channel literally created so many tragic child star stories. So many of them were used, abused and taken advantage of, it’s so disgusting. So much shit is coming out now about Disney, it’s wild. It just gets crazier the more you learn about it.

[@steppin-razor]

And Nickelodeon

[@NelsonStJames]

This.

[@greendragon4058]

I have friends in the movie business they really have to keep an eye on their kids because it's a status symbol for kids to do this kind of stuff I really hope he grows out of it

[@aristobrat4987]

why blame disney ? its the parents fault....no child was just randomly abused like the truman show

[@BouncyKnight331]

@@aristobrat4987 it's both honestly.

[@chelscara]

As hard as it is, I do think anyone can come back from addiction. My mom was friends with a woman for years. Her mom gave her meth at _13_ .So in her 40s she was a “casual” user that lived with her bf and friends in a trailer “park”. She never pushed it on anyone, actually the opposite, and she was a genuinely sweet and funny person. Then, after years of her not speaking to her parents, her mom called because she was dying. The friend stayed with the mom until her death and her mom left her the home and ranch she and her more recent husband had built as an apology for how she started her daughters life. She got clean! It took a lot, but she did! And she got a job as a trucker, and she takes her dog traveling. She loves her life, and she deserved to get to that point. I hope he can have a similar ending.

[@tonygluk1]

Thank you for this sweet story

[@wd5739]

If you're close to her please check on her whenever you can. The use of drugs like meth and other uppers/stimulants can be appealing to truck drivers. Of course not every driver uses them but it happens a lot more than people realize.

[@GoldGlizzyGang]

Anything is possible , methadone saved my life after 10 years of needles and tin foil.

[@starryeyedtarot8876]

@@GoldGlizzyGang Stay clean, Nick. I believe in you. Methadone also saved my life. I'm now 11 years clean from opiates, and I got off of methadone and onto a small amount of Suboxone two years ago. The struggle is real, but we keep on fighting. Much love to all of you. Take care of your mental and physical health.

[@af2876]

@@GoldGlizzyGang so you are addicted to methadone now? And you say it saved your life. If you are then its stockholm syndrom and he only one reallt winning is big pharma.

[@orionfire1947]

I lost my cousin to this addiction, and her spiral downwards was something that brought a lot of grief to everyone that tried to save her. I hope he can get the help he needs.

[@tiffanykim2773]

I'm sorry for your loss

[@poiu477]

The war on drugs is the number one cause of the negative effects of addiction.

[@poiu477]

Street meth's neurotoxicity is exacerbated through it's illicit manufacture. These problems aren't typically associated with daily use of Desoxyn (Pharmaceutical grade methamphetamine prescribed for ADD and severe weight problems)

[@AdamOwenBrowning]

@@poiu477 You're insane. Prescription methamphetamine is largely the same and given in extremely small doses for its ability to shield the brain during a seizure. It's not given to fat people for weight loss because it leeches calcium from the bones. It's not given for ADD - they use weaker amphetamines. You're jumping into every thread that mentions someone's dead loved on to basically advertise about politics. Fuck off.

[@bemore2886]

@@tiffanykim2773 what did u edit 😳

[@NatLaS]

Fun fact, for those who don’t know: Brenda Song (London Tipton, Wendy Wu) and Macaulay Culkin (Kevin from Home Alone) are married and have a kid together. So there’s your Disney couple!

[@kalystagutierrez1607]

Yeah, I remember that! It was surprising but they're so cute together, I wish them the best!

[@LiveFreeCODHard]

I wonder what drugs they’ve done together.

[@LoreleiCatherine]

Of all the pairings, this is one I was NOT expecting 😂

[@toastedalmonds3460]

@@LoreleiCatherineright!

[@alynsak]

People need to stop contacting Phil. If someone needs real help, take them to a real, licensed doctor!

[@Mama_Bear524]

Thank you!! He not only doesn’t help, he makes it so much worse.

[@afgal9726]

I agree. He is nothing but a shock jock masquerading as a professional doctor.

[@thesaddestpikachu]

Honestly I love it when people like Sexy Vegan and that crazy black chick who is wildly racist towards her own race, insisting she's actually white, go on that show. Not that he helps at all, just that some people are genuinely crazy and it's not always from drugs. I don't really feel empathy for individuals like sexy Vegan

[@nilara93]

This

[@lilamontoya5609]

👏🏼👏🏼

[@ItsYaBoiV]

My eldest sister was a drug addict for so long that when she finally actually got sober, she was still nuts. All of the best qualities she had were gone and she was just erratic and unpredictable.

[@monavie9110]

thats really sad

[@Flyn4thewin]

V, it sounds like you love your sister and have a lot of grief surrounding her past use. But try using language that pins the problem on the drugs, rather than the person. Avoiding words like "drug addict" and attributing drug-induced characteristics to her, rather than the affects of the drugs, can be damming if not damaging. And don't worry, she still has lots of good qualities, including the incredible intelligence and strength it takes to overcome an addiction. Best of luck to your family

[@AdamOwenBrowning]

​@@Flyn4thewin Don't lecture the person on their own familial problems that you don't know and the language they choose to describe people you don't know, because you don't know them at all. In this individual's opinion, their sister was robbed of their best qualities by the process of their dependence. Does that actually make any difference? I think almost all people have redeeming qualities, through any kind of drug use sure, but why do OUR opinions matter to this person's very personal situation? You don't know this person, their family, their sister, at all. Incredible intelligence to overcome addiction, sure hahaha I'll let my mate know who got clean because he beat his gf and went to prison but sat in solitary the whole time bc he was a wifebeater, I'll let him know how deeply intelligent that was.

[@Flyn4thewin]

@@AdamOwenBrowning It sounds like you have some very intimate and heart breaking experience with people who have suffered from addiction, and those around them who have suffered as well. Thank you for sharing your stance. I can't say I agree with all of it, but this is an important dialog to open. I never intend to lecture, only offer healthier options/actions for others. And ways to have conversations that hold people accountable while avoiding stumbling into stigmatized language.

[@ReeN1995]

@@Flyn4thewin it was kind of rude from you. Might not want to "only offer healthier options" to a person dealing with loss. It comes across as very arrogant because this is just your opinion and you should have probably kept it to yourself. Like Adam said, you don't know this person's circumstance, their culture or even if english is their first language. I myself suffer from addiction and lost family and friends from it and personally I do not agree with your take on soft-language at all. I do agree however not to blame the person so I can also see your side.

[@tattooedmomma]

When Dr Phil said he has neurological damage, I'm pretty sure he meant Orlando's brain has been fried from the meth. My cousin was just like Orlando is now, but only when my cousin was sober. It didn't last long. When in his late 20s, he reminded me of a 6 year old's speech and comprehension, and he always seemed high. It was bad. He died from system shutdown from the meth before age 40 .

[@leojamison3768]

I'm so sorry you had to go through this. I can empathize with what watching drugs destroy a person can effect you mentally. God be with you, I hope you're well ❤️

[@CHloE748]

Sounds like my brother. Except he is just a selfish asshole.. Sorry about your cousin. Meth is a terrible, terrible drug.

[@DawnDiggetyNoDoubt]

So sorry for the trauma and loss of your family member from this illness

[@tattooedmomma]

Thank you 3 for your nice, considerate comments. That's rare on KZbin, from my experience. Chloe, i hope your brother is able to straighten out his life and attitude. 🖤

[@goldenwolf_gamingYT]

I'm sorry to hear that it's truly painful seeing the ones u love suffer from addiction. Ik a few people that have suffered from addiction one of them is still struggling

[@cmorgansd]

Addiction is usually a person self medicating for underlying problems and I think his focus on sexual things may be very telling into the underlying issues. We've heard about a lot of sexual abuse that occurs in the entertainment industry. No one wants to say that some of that may be occurring in the Disney machine but there are soooo many people that work for Disney so probably statisticaly its likely that it is occurring at Disney "allegedly". Not saying this is his issue but it's something to consider.

[@Mama_Bear524]

It’s sadly very likely this is what happened to him. Hope I’m wrong.

[@afgal9726]

There have been several Disney employees arrested for being S.O.’s just recently. Disney is just the tip of the pedo iceberg in Hollywood.

[@cmorgansd]

@@afgal9726 I didn't know about that. I hope they get the longest sentence possible if found guilty. It still won't be long enough.

[@industrialover]

Yeah, I don't think it's just disney. Way too many actors have these kinds of problems

[@deannas2778]

Child stars are very much abused. It's sad. Their brains are still developing and the trauma just fucks them up.

[@Kawaiicarly]

I gotta say Leo, I appreciate your empathy and humanity towards a man who is obviously going through some stuff. This video was funny without being mean, and constantly hyping up Orlandos career and talent just made me so happy as someone with a lot of family members who deal with addiction. Ty Leo, definitely gonna go check out his music now!

[@greendragon4058]

Stems from Growing Up in Southern California or Disney doesn't give a crap that is not responsible I know we have free will, but acting as such a young age they got to blow off some steam remember Paris Hilton? Hope to see a man can get back on his way because of my kids really like them

[@jc-xo8yd]

He just made a video laughing about him the entire time lmao

[@ScottVeggies]

I was afraid to click on this because I thought you were going to destroy him. He's going through something and never kick a man when he's down ya know? Appreciate you Leo.

[@ScottVeggies]

Your accents are on point bro!

[@stefanib.4283]

I enjoy Leo because he's one of the few commentary channels that thinks about all sides and speaks with compassion.

[@theoneandonly80]

This man grew up working for Disney in California. None of us knows his story. It's just easier to write him off as a drug addicted crazy person. I tend to believe the things he is saying/telling has validity to it.

[@theoneandonly80]

If he is using drugs, it could be to numb his painful past traumas.

[@angelbabyprincess]

i believe some of the “crazy” things he says has to have some truth behind it as well.

[@imadori1010]

He's definitely talking in code

[@ladycheyne5607]

@@imadori1010 Yeah, it's called Coke lips speak

[@theoneandonly80]

@@angelbabyprincess Thank u!

[@mrjanemba]

As a millenial, im dying over the fact that orlando brown used the chorus from Hanson's song 'MMMBop' to describe oral sex, as well as the fact that they were such a flash in the pan mid 90s act that Leo didnt understand the reference, nor how deeply disturbed and chaotic the idea of a millenial child star using a song by another group of millenial child stars is.

[@itsdrjade]

I thought this same exact thing! I expected to see everyone saying it in the comments, and scrolling so far down to finally find one made me feel pretty old 😂 The song wasn’t exactly easy to recognize, and so maybe you only could notice if it was something engrained in your brain from trying to sing along. Plus, you kind of had to be old enough to be getting into top radio music at the right time, but young enough for ‘MMMBop” to not sound stupid and/or creepy lol

[@DJPoundPuppy]

This part was the most shocking part of the video. Also I'm a little sad that I immediately recognized the song.

[@greensheen8759]

For real

[@nicoleraheem1195]

@@DJPoundPuppy I did too

[@jamesordwayultralightpilot]

You all are not alone. My comment was about Hanson as well.

[@alexismarnold]

Can we all agree that Leo would be an excellent therapist, counselor, psychiatrist, etc.?

[@clintonharvey2384]

It’s his cadence and the fact that he doesn’t sound like he’s patronizing when he’s making a point, yeah he’s be great hahaha

[@paulvalenzuela8433]

yeah, a sex therapist.

[@GR3Y59-FTP]

BEEN SAYINN. awareness, insight, skill. pays attention

[@AdamOwenBrowning]

We don't actually know the boy's personality because this is all scripted content. You guys are kind of... you've gone a little parasocial if you think watching scripted content is a good measure of a man's character to the point you'd trust them with your mental health issues, familial issues, and your prescriptions? A psychiatrist, for real? The irony of this posted on a Disney star's falldown video, someone whose content was entirely scripted (by someone else, big ups to Leo for managing these massive scripts) I love these vids and Leo seems like a great guy, but we should stroke our parasocial relations a little less.

[@snowpanther7076]

No he wouldn't. His solution for loneliness is self-love which is not the solution for loneliness and actually very hurtful. A lot of his advice is also terrible and he tends not to do proper research and assume that because it's someone he doesn't like that everything they say is a lie. Like in the ACE family video when they were talking about being ripped off with their house and he kept saying that's impossible and making fun of them when contractors (at least in my area) are so dishonest that if you're not there watching them install light bulbs or put wiring in the walls them they'll shove them into their car and leave (speaking from personal experience). Even liars tell the truth sometimes. Leo sounds really nice because of his speech pattern until you start paying attention to his words then you realize how harsh he is to the person he's talking about... except Nikocado for some reason

[@trashpanda3544]

I can certainly understand him having his childhood pulled from under him translating into him wanting to help kids. I feel like when you experience a hardship in your childhood it makes you extra sensitive to it once you're an adult. For example I grew up in poverty and would often not get presents on my birthday or Christmas. As an adult my love language is gift giving. Now that I have adult money I always end up spending waaay too much money buying presents for my family because I want them to have a good birthday or Christmas. Its actually caused a lot of issues in my life because I'll often end up spending money I need for myself.

[@RedVelvetRabbit]

I can relate for sure. My big love language is gifts and things too, I can't help it. I've been working on being more practical with my money and making sure I have enough for me first, but goodness is it difficult sometimes. It's never the money spent that matters, it's their face lighting up and that feeling that someone thought of them that makes it all worthwhile.

[@clover5668]

That was really kind of you to put other people over yourself! But please take care of yourself! 😘💖

[@NomadicSheep01]

Wow. Thanks for making it make sense. I experience the same effects from my childhood affecting my adulthood in this way. Hopefully Orlando gets the help he needs

[@lIlIllIlIllIlllIllIIIIIIIIIlII]

Can't relate. But giving gifts does bring me more joy than receiving things. But that's normal

[@trashpanda3544]

@@lIlIllIlIllIlllIllIIIIIIIIIlII I wouldn't say it's normal for everyone. My boyfriend and dad hate Christmas because the idea of choosing the right gift brings them extreme stress and anxiety. They hate buying presents for people, not because they're selfish but because they don't know what to get and that coupled with money worries makes for a terrible time. My mum always did the Christmas shopping and now I always do the Christmas shopping.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

The fact that Orlando got a tattoo of Raven-Symoné on his neck is crazy. He acts like he and Raven were destined for each other.

[@daynasafranek7807]

A scary Raven-Symoné tattoo. She should sue him for slander for that.

[@mellissamercado7904]

who cares..ppl can do that...it's a tattoo. he can have his fantasy as long as nothing else happens. I just got here so idgaf. I liked some dude from elementary to highschool and thought he was the one for me. until he moved..and he said he never really had much of an interest in dating..so I chalk it up to being g** or one of those alleged ace people. idk. definitely a turn off of the latter lol. he didn't seem right in the head looking back on his behavior. bullet dodged probably.

[@lou70x7]

@@mellissamercado7904 are you doing OK?

[@achewy7700]

@@mellissamercado7904 maybe he told you he wasn’t into dating cause he didn’t want to give you any hope, i definitely would if someone censored the word gay and doesn’t believe that some people don’t want sex

[@KingOfGaymes]

@@mellissamercado7904 Um no. People can’t just do anything they want. And getting a tattoo of someone you used to work with is very weird.. Also it’s weird af you’re saying a child in elementary was the one for you.. Of course he wasn’t interested, he was a kid, you don’t date that young. Sounds kinda like you’re still upset that he rejected you.. which is creepy Also you don’t censor gay and ace people aren’t “alleged”, I’m one of them and we exist dummy

[@yvngtonyb]

Drugs change you for the worst. imo, there’s no amount of physical addiction that your body can handle without having atleast some neurological issues develop. I had a propensity for snorting drugs I liked at 16, 17, because it got me higher, faster, and I had the mindset of “I’m young, I get good grades, I play sports, it’s not gonna happen to me.” Drugs literally don’t care. An old friend of mine passed me a tray late one night on his porch and was told it was oxycoton, it appeared to be the typical amount & consistency, but it was far too dark outside to tell. We’d been doing drugs together for years so I didn’t have the wherewithal to say no, and it ended up being a significant amount of heroin. Way more than anyone should do there first or second or tenth time trying a drug that strong. That was all she wrote. As a kid I was raised heavily religious and always told myself I’d never do drugs, then in my teens I had a “big 3” I would never touch. Meth, Crack, and Heroin. Looking back, it was the dumbest mindset I could’ve possibly had, but I genuinely believed I never would’ve tried any of that of my own volition. I was far too trusting, and far too willing to get high. I’m only 24, I’ve been sober for 4 years, and I have several mental health issues I simply didn’t experience before drugs. Severe anxiety, mental depressive disorder, narcissistic tendencies. I’m lucky that I caught it early enough that I escaped without completely losing my mind and personality. The high in your teens is not worth a lifetime of recovery. Take it from someone whose been there.

[@takethel7746]

Facts and congrats on 4 years my friend

[@missgrace2961]

Thanks for sharing. This was very insightful

[@jslaughterofthesoul4939]

If you're only 24 it was probably fentanyl. Oxycontin and heroin aren't that dissimilar

[@pixie3760]

I've yet to see a child star grow to adulthood without having many problems trying to find where they belong. These kids are exploited to a point that they just can't function in normal society.

[@TuberoseKisser]

I feel like Arianna Grande, Tia & Tamara, Aly & AJ, and Ashley Tisdale did but can't be sure.

[@leileyaravencroft]

@@TuberoseKisser Actually, Tamara has recently come out and said it was pretty horrible for her and Tia and Ashley Tisdale as well. Ariana Grande hasn't issued a statement herself but from what footage I've seen from her younger years and Janette McCurdy's book, I am not entirely sure about her. Really most child stars have come out of Hollywood if not a little damaged then fully damaged. It is so rare that they survive to be normal adults that when it is reported, the headline usually is: "(inser child star here) survived Hollywood". Cole and Dylan Sprouse has said that they "survived" but it should not be celebrated.

[@animeonepiecelife1663]

I can only think of Zendaya tbh.

[@copaceticgaming5939]

Absolutely agree!

[@themchannel853]

Hilary Duff seems to be doing okay.

[@afgal9726]

This is beyond heartbreaking. Hollywood has always been a playground for pedophiles, back to Shirley Temple and probably before. Given the evidence and testimony from former child actors, I question why any parents would throw their children into that lions’ den.

[@YeetTheMeat]

Fame and wealth

[@thesaddestpikachu]

Exactly. This is why I went crazy when my sister started dating this chick who she barely knew in LA and the gf convinced her to get her 7 year old daughter into "modeling". She had professional photos and a whole portfolio and was bragging about it on FB how her child was starting her "modeling career". It was so disgusting, but the gf ended up cheating on her so she moved back to Canada to marry this nasty guy who was willing to take care of her and her child. I haven't talked to my sister in years and don't plan to anymore, there's a lot of shit wrong with her and is one of those people who if you criticize her in any way she gets fire in her eyes and super angry and will start screaming at you "defending herself" trying to flip everything she does on you saying you're the problem. She never understood or even cared how much danger she could have put her child in, that is assuming nothing already happened in those 6 months she was a "model" :/ all she cared about was the attention and I feel like a lot of parents who get their kids into acting or modeling of some shit they just want easy money and fame. It's the same problem with TikTok and all these animal channels that get millions of views easy cuz everyone wants to see a cute animal. They get pets or too many they can't take care of either feeding or vet bill wise so the animals get abused for views and clout and the owner makes all the money and keeps it all, usually not putting any of the money back into caring for the pet. Sorry for the rant it's just...ugh a problem I hate clout chasers and people who would do evil things to vulnerable children and animals for money and fame, like how is that worth it?

[@ominous-omnipresent-they]

Probably because Hollywood is no more a lion's den than normal society. I'd even argue that it's less, given that over 90% of sexual abuse cases in children are committed by family members, partners, and friends, rather than random strangers. The only difference is that cases in Hollywood receive worldwide media coverage, as opposed to those in normal society.

[@antcantcook960]

The Catholic Church, Boy Scouts, etc are part of Hollywood? Face it, paedophilia is a western tradition going back to the Greeks, where do you think the word “pedarast” comes from?

[@TattooOclock]

Right?? I wouldn’t even feel comfortable having my 5 yr old alone in the kids church area. I have to have my eyes on him until he’s old enough to be able to mentally and physically stand up for himself.

[@tuarweneruanna]

I spent so long starting at the title and thumbnail thinking "that's not Orlando Bloom"

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Yep. He's brown alright.

[@PhoenixRoseYT]

Noooooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@1337-i3v]

It's funny how we think something is wrong/off when it's another celebrity with a very similar name to a super/much more famous celebrity... Lol as if only one celebrity can be named it. Happens other times to me too.

[@kellybraun5013]

Leo there’s no way you can say Orlando is high on weed in the Dr.Phil show clips. He’s been a hardcore drug user for almost 20 years. There is no weed on earth that could intoxicate you to that level after using it every day for decades. He’s on some kind of downer or cocktail of pills. Not saying he’s not also high on weed but this guy has done massive quantities of the hardest drugs available. He’s not nodding out and slurring speech from marijuana.

[@kingkat_]

i can attest to this, been smoking since 15 and i'm almost 24 and not even a backwood can get me on his level

[@carlwheezer1030]

As a father who's a stoner I can attest to the fact that I remember my child's name and age

[@MimiRAM0NE]

Snoop Dogg manages to still get high as hell on weed.

[@jslaughterofthesoul4939]

He's schizophrenic. It's not that easy to determine precisely what he's on. Plenty of people who are sober or on psych meds have been adamantly accused of being high on whatever. He has hardly been able to keep his substance predilection a secret, and it's never been "downers"

[@lillexus5589]

​@@MimiRAM0NEhe doesn't most likely. Just needs it to function normally. Your receptors will be fried after smoking for that long. If you quit though, good luck sleeping or having a normal appetite, not to mention the outbursts and mood swings.

[@selenarajovic3117]

Child stars are used, abused and who knows what else. That's what's wrong with them. It's so sad

[@rubydoo3307]

As a person in the industry, this isn't just Disney stars anymore. If you want to be hired for any big franchise (Marvel, Netflix, etc) as a child, you need to be malleable and say yes, while being unproblematic (and so do your parents). These kids will one day realise that everyone around them is there to leech off them, and they can't even trust their managers or talent agents, of course there's no longevity or health. This industry still exploits everyone it can.

[@imapisces0308]

This man is on drugs and I don’t understand why people keep interviewing him. The fact that people prefer to get views and go viral instead of helping him get sober is telling. If something happens to him people will be like “this is so sad” but no one tried to help. SMH. Great job with this video Leo!

[@daniburke9452]

Unmedicated mental Illness and psychosis looks very similar to drugs use. That's why's it's absolutely important to be off drugs for a diagnosis because if your using drugs to self medicated it will exacerbate the situation and u don't know which is causing the psychosis. Also schizophrenia doesn't present its self usually till mid 20s to early 30s. Which puts him right there when he started to decline

[@roriemarie2968]

So sad

[@jessicawalker6682]

Exactly just like what happen with DMX 🥲😭💔

[@ronniebar3857]

Child stars usually lead to tragic lives. It's a real and not a new concept. Which is so sad 😢.

[@swebb1]

Your commentary is a great balance between compassion and comedy on a complex subject.

[@M33PSTER]

I appreciate Leo so much as a commentary KZbinr because it’s so easy to turn someone’s story into a punchline in this type of content. Leo’s forgiveness and empathy are so refreshing in the world of KZbin commentary and I truly appreciate the sense of perspective he has when discussing delicate issues like this. Keep being great, Leo 💕

[@leileyaravencroft]

That "skat" that he did wasn't actually a skat. It was a popular song from the 2000s called MMMBop by Hansen. I recognized it right away as it was everywhere from 01-02 (maybe even 03). But that was extremely random.

[@vfawkz]

Bit earlier but correct.. 97 ahh memories

[@jennzifur]

@@vfawkz correct. That song was late 90something. I hated somewhat hated musical life as a teen back then lol

[@leileyaravencroft]

@@vfawkz oh that’s right. Holy crap. But musically those years blended together

[@folksagabookart]

I was looking for someone else that recognized that song 😁 I was a huge fan of them when I was a kid 😅

[@daniburke9452]

That song is from like 1996

[@victorchireev8208]

I SCREAMED when I saw the kitchen. The wave of nostalgia. Anyways keep up the great work Leo we love you!

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

There are a few child stars I know of that had it the worse. - Amanda Bynes - Lindsay Lohan - Orlando Brown

[@OhForScienceSake]

Add Jennette McCurdy to that list 💔😭

[@shimmerandshineee]

@@OhForScienceSake I’m just happy she’s just getting her life back together now :)

[@leileyaravencroft]

Britney Spears is another. There are many.

[@1337-i3v]

I don't think it's a contest :(

[@cocojames4486]

Might as well SLAP the Olsen twins on the list while ya at it 🥴

[@hunnybunny20000]

The diamond finger thing I successfully blocked out of my memory until now. So thank you for giving me nightmares again

[@OhForScienceSake]

" you ever have diamonds on your p***y? " I zoned out for like a minute and came back to that line 💀 not knowing context and hearing that was a whole experience lol

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Orlando Brown

[@leojamison3768]

Don't worry, those of us who didn't zone out had no context either lol 😂

[@kweenikki]

In the dr phil interview he doesn’t just seem baked , he straight up looks and is acting like he’s on opioids or benzos 100%. I’m an ex addict of benzos and opioids. I’ve also been around a lot of people who have done down so I know what it exactly looks like. (I’m a year and a half clean)

[@skaweirromeda6787]

Congrats on being sober!

[@kweenikki]

@@skaweirromeda6787 thank you 😁💖

[@naevisx]

the part where he's talking about his kids kinda broke me tbh. Like maybe I imagined it but I felt like deep inside he knew that what he was saying about his kids' ages was wrong but he couldn't tell why it was wrong??? idk

[@chriscastro6058]

it's the "subtle" leaving out of the birthday flowers for me. Doesn't look like many people took the bait, so I'll say it. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

[@tiffanykim2773]

This man got into drugs and had no one to help him out perhaps he's dealing with some trauma behind the scenes that happened while he was apart of whichever channel he worked for and this is the outcome. So many possibilities man and it's sad that he doesn't have anyone around to help him.

[@ganja_bb4203]

Exactly I feel so bad for him I hope he gets better

[@KingOfGaymes]

It makes me said to see Disney stars and other child actors turn out rough.. Child actors really need better support for when they’re older.. It’s like after their big shows end or they grow up they’re just abandoned or something..

[@kricket8801]

It's been shown dr Phil and his team provide the vices that the guests struggle with in their dressing rooms prior to the start of filming

[@SpiceIntolerance]

Sounds about right…

[@maggiee639]

That’s pretty fucked up

[@Mama_Bear524]

I think I’ve heard about that. And it wouldn’t surprise me

[@adoramay9410]

Also, his staff allegedly gave one dude alcohol and Xanax, which can kill you. The person is still alive, thankfully

[@MatchaTheVibeking]

The interview where he's just holding the oscar reminded me so much of that episode of Bojack Horseman where Bojack has the oscar in his hand the entire episode, just cuz he needs some form of present, tangible success to cling to.

[@endyark]

this is gonna be sick as hell can’t wait, man you’re definitely one of my favorite commentary youtubers i watch. keep up the great work, hope everything is going well for you 👍

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Orlando Brown

[@a.a.l.3236]

Hey Leo, have been watching for a good while now and never comment on videos but wanted to say that I really appreciate the emotional intelligence and differentiation you display when talking about people's inner workings even while clowning on them. I am sure you were/would be a natural in psych courses. It is both kinder and your deeper understanding of why someone may be acting the way they do makes your videos so much more engaging and I am always excited when you upload. Thanks and hope you get blessed by the algorithm gods.

[@OrangeCopperTop]

He’s totally opiated up in the Dr Phil show, I can see it a mile off. Plus just to let people know, even though friends and relatives want the addict to go get help, somebody isn’t going to get sober, and people have a hard time realising that. An addict quits when they want to get sober, otherwise it’s destined for failure.

[@NatLaS]

So, and this is a truly genuine question, even if the family/friends force them into rehab or something, they’ll just go back to it?

[@jjdelft3216]

@@NatLaS There's a really big chance, yeah

[@aidantrent5933]

@@NatLaS Thing is with addiction, it doesn't actually go away, even if you manage to overcome it. The temptation will always be there, and even dipping your toe back into it will send you back into it fully. It requires vigilance to stay cold turkey.

[@OrangeCopperTop]

@@NatLaS Yes, usually. Even if they don’t do that, I think the success rate for a comical garden, 12 steps etc rehab is only something like 6%. That goes for prison, it’s the same issue enforced sobriety doesn’t mean that it’s going to work, far from it tbh. It’s hard to explain but it’s like somebody else decision for you to get sober, heck even if you want it cos you’re tired of it all, it’s really hard to stop permanently.

[@jenneacubero1036]

Something tells me that back in the day, Raven had turned down Orlando and the guy still hasn't got over the rejection.

[@dots4dots-art195]

She lost her virginity to him

[@SpacedOut-ASMR]

Can we just get 45 minutes of out-of-context Dr.Phil clips with commentary? 👴You're funniest doing what you love. 👴

[@lichbunny3733]

Wanna point out that one reason that no one ever questions his insane rambles about Raven is likely because everyone knows it's no use arguing with him about it, because he'll just double-down. There's a form of delusion that, no matter how insane it is or how much evidence proves against it, the person will never ever believe anything to the contrary. You see it pretty often in a few psychological disorders, and it's even more common to see it in addicts that get into the harder stuff. Like meth. It's not always malicious of course. Sometimes does just come from some sort of imagined scenario they thought was real, or maybe the delusion even has some partial truth to it. He very well could've misread an interaction with Raven on set and recalled it years down the road during a drug binge, then his imagination filled in the gaps. But it could also be a very immature/poor attempt to get her bad press, like a little brother that gets mad when an older sibling is getting more praise for something. It's hard to say in Orlando's case, because meth addicts in particular typically (note I *didn't* say always) become very manipulative. After a while it gets really hard to tell what words are from the genuine person, and what all is just the crank talking.

[@paulvalenzuela8433]

I think they had a brief romantic connection but raven quickly saw all his red flags, but still had to keep it professional for the show. but he took it to a different place.

[@GR3Y59-FTP]

as a recovered addict. this is on the nose.

[@jaydee1389]

They did have a relationship. I think there is an interview with Raven where she said she was dating someone younger than her.

[@Litha_Light]

I cannot stop binge watching this channel! Even thinking of taking a sick day at work just to chill and binge. You are quickly becoming my favorite youtuber!!!

[@Chitamashii]

Damn, I can't believe Fillmore, the best safety patrol officer in the business, sold crystal meth

[@angfilm8790]

for anyone who is still genuinely interested about Orlando Brown’s story & his whereabouts there is this youtuber by the name of Julia Boateng who has a great video that delves a little deeper! (just less comedy lmao)

[@goldenwolf_gamingYT]

Link?

[@angfilm8790]

@@goldenwolf_gamingYT kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y36zgKOgnteWiaM

[@CallMeSkinny]

@@goldenwolf_gamingYT she gave you the name stop being lazy and type it in the search bar and look it up. God I hate when people ask for the most after you gave them all the information.

[@thereseclairecreates]

Your video is one of the best videos I've seen about Orlando Brown. I love how you can switch from joking to serious and empathetic. I love how you didn't make a spectacle of him, you more of showed the things he did that show that he has a problem. I sincerely hope he gets better. Everytime Raven gets asked about him, you can just see the sadness in her face.

[@dariasdouble212]

Glad to see you made it safely back to Australia and you're wearing your beautiful coats and of course- STANDING! 💜

[@20iasberry]

Dr. Phill's team didn't have at least a family member there to advocate. He doesn't know 1 person in that room. Why would he listen.

[@lufuse]

I always thought it was odd how Orlando obsessed over Raven Simone and said he was going to marry her, especially now that she's out as being gay. It's really sad to see what happened to him, I loved That's So Raven as a kid. And I hope he'll be able to get clean and surround himself with people that actually care about him.

[@Nosliw837]

Solid take on this absolute disaster/mess. Being someone who deals with mental health issues, just sayin', - There's always a path out of the woods. Sometimes it just takes a while longer than we want it to. And as you mentioned, a few friends (even if it's only one or two people) that won't bullshit you and got your back make a huge difference.

[@Heather-Kayrug]

I think a lot of times when these kids-( famous kids) are under 18 they don't have access their money as much as people may think. ... They have parents and family that are spending their money.

[@MissCaraMint]

And that money needs to be harder for them to get ahold of. Jannette Mccurdy’s book made that abundantly clear. I doubt she’ll see a penny of the money she earned.

[@Kellyeeeee]

I'm sorry I had to pause the video because I met Mr. Moseby at an ATM in Chicago 8 years ago and he was so incredibly kind and really took the time to connect. Maybe because it was a walking city and he wasn't wasted, but I could've been manslaughtered and I didn't even know it! Thanks for the helpful info and also ruining my day, Leo! 💀💀💀💖

[@besainted]

im deadddd. just like- nvm. 😅

[@Kellyeeeee]

@@besainted lmaooo I was truly almost dead and I didn't even know it! He got me good gal 🤣

[@deannas2778]

That diamond in the pussy thing made me feel violated. I can't even describe the visceral discomfort I experienced, but just know it was bad.

[@Nana-km4gw]

Keep up the not demonizing people for having addiction issues, we love that!!!

[@kayymichelle9421]

He was in the movie major Payne when he was 5. Great movie, if you haven’t seen it, you should give it a watch. Childhood favorite.

[@napatora]

holy shit i never realized that was him. i absolutely loved that movie when i was a kid i gotta rewatch that one

[@MsLenepigen]

Aw… I didn’t realize it was him, but I remember that cute little boy.

[@micahmcallister5554]

I hope he gets back on his feet. He was really young, and he hasn’t t hurt anyone.

[@sandraaa8496]

I had a family member who seemed normal all thru life and now in our 30s he started to exhibit strange behavior. After many incidents and arguments we finally got him to see a doctor and he ended up having a brain aneurysm. The dr said a lot of the changes was due to that… maybe I’m being dramatic but it wouldn’t hurt for him to have a brain scan. If nothing else, it can be ruled out

[@Fryjnkk]

Why does his tattoo of raven look like that... How did anyone even know that was supposed to be her?

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

I don't blame Raven for cutting ties with Orlando Brown.

[@DocAnaStasia]

I can’t diagnose him, but his flight of ideas and hyper mania reminds me of myself, I have bipolar. I also added a bad drug addiction on top of that. I messed up my brain. I was hallucinating, paranoid, and had no filter on my mouth. My mania was so outrageous. I still even with medication feel no pain during that time. I have absolutely no fear even on my down days. I truly hope he gets clean, and deals with whatever mental health and/or trauma that is scarring his outlook on life.

[@karahershey]

I also believe this could be bipolar disorder because It looks like a manic episode

[@ardenalexa94]

It could be bipolar but it also could just be the addiction to drugs. Or both.

[@coolranchlauritos]

leo, you are amazing. the way you can be sensitive about this topic while also making hilarious observations (specifically your commentary about the look he gives after his "mmm-bop" cracked me up!!) is very admirable!! you're one of my newest favorite creators and i get so stoked when you upload. keep it up, you'll be at a million in no time!!!

[@raigenhuss7030]

I worry so much about child stars. They have their childhood stripped away and are put in the spotlight so early.

[@theartwiiitch7959]

He speaks in riddles. I personally love this individual .

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Orlando Brown

[@thareelhelloagain]

Two things. One, you meant Phil Lewis, NOT Phil Lamarr, and two, when he was 'scatting', I realized that he was actually singing the chorus from 'MMMBop'. Listen to it again, it's exactly what he's singing

[@Baldskiiz]

Honestly you are one of the only people that can make me laugh on this platform. Thank you, continue being you always

[@izabelasiczek3547]

I love how u always try to be objective and respectful , always try to find a human site about everyone u talk about. U don't disrespect anyone. Thank u for ur objectivism

[@calvinlee8103]

I used to have that exact same full-finger ring thing that he shows off at 9:00 in. I bought mine for $12. Nobody's getting diamonds in any orifices, those are plastic.

[@kennyleclair6468]

I SCREAMED WHEN HE WAS BACK IN THE KITCHEN LEO OMGGGG WERE FINALLY BACK OMG CAN WE TAKE A MOMENT

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Major Payne was Orlando Brown's first success. And Straight Outta Compton was his last.

[@cassidy_silva]

So sad. Classic "toddler to train wreck pipeline" of Hollywood. They chew these kids up then spit em out. Groom and SA them. Get them hooked on drugs. Then they shamelessly exploit their struggles as adults. 🥺💔

[@trey98642]

You are right ppl may think that he had a decent life or childhood just because he was a child star and was on TV. We have just learned about Janette McCurdy and how she had a horrible childhood and she told us all how her mother pushed her into acting and it was pretty much up to her to act and work to support her and her mother and her mother was very controlling and she is actually relieved that her mother has passed away as her book is titled I'm glad my mother died and she even says I know the title is kind of harsh but this is a book about my life and trauma and all the hardship that I have gone thru and overcome.

[@finnyoak]

I think, when he was talking about parents paying for "tissue", he meant like anatomical tissue and not Kleenex. It's probably one of the more coherent and lucid thoughts he had during his word salad.

[@patriciacurtis349]

@Rebel Chaos word salad is a clinical term used to describe schizophrenic or manic ramblings lmao the first time I heard it I thought it was funny it was a dr term

[@yougotmeshaknshakninmahboo3950]

Bruh this guy better get more recognization in the future for his great work, we love you man. Keep it up 💌

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Orlando Brown

[@tdclemensen]

"I don't think you can tease anything for 7 years and not release it" I guess Leo isn't a Tool fan

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Orlando Brown is more known for his interviews, rather than his acting and rap career.

[@haileygrey5047]

And that's so sad. He had such great potential.

[@markharrisllb]

Your subscriber numbers are snowballing and it’s no more than you deserve. Very well done, I million before 2023? Just keep being you, doing everything you do, commentary, comedy, mental health advocacy and your honesty.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

The Orlando Brown and the Nick Cannon allegations had me 🤯

[@bandgeekonflute]

What kind words you ended with for Orlando Brown. I liked him a lot on That's So Raven (babysat a couple of girls who loved Disney channel). I hope he gets the help he deserves.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Out of the all the Disney stars that got in trouble, Orlando had it the worst. Other than Lindsay Lohan.

[@gabriellemadrid2831]

Other than Lindsay! Yes! Yaaaasssssss!

[@ManderSchmidty]

I’ve missed kitchen Leo 🥺 so happy to see it again!!

[@ImGonebabyyyy]

I’ve never heard of this person or their situation but I’m totally ready to learn cause I just know your gonna make it easy to digest thanks Leo 🙏🙏 Stop callin me a youngin omg I’m just purposely oblivious to the world can’t get sad if there’s nothing to be sad about 🥴

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Orlando Brown

[@ImGonebabyyyy]

@@SpammytheHedgehog lol I mean Ik that I read the title haha I was just saying like I haven’t heard of them before this 😅

[@Adrian-zd4cs]

I didn't know who he was either 🤣

[@pvssycult]

Wow, y’all lil ones. 🤯

[@ImGonebabyyyy]

@@pvssycult i swear I’m not that young 😭😭 LMAO I’m just in my own little bubble I never know what’s happening 😆

[@keylay9453]

28:05. The fact you either dont mention or don't know he was quoting Hansen's "m'bop" is downright criminal

[@lillexus5589]

Just gave her some 27:07

[@WeldingQueen]

Child stars I think need extra extra layers of protection. Idk what that would look like but not how it is now. They even need protection from parents sometimes. (Jeanette's book was so heartbreaking and well written. it really touched me and really opened the light on how some childhood stars are neglected and abused and exploited and there are way too many people complicit in okay with it. It doesn't sound like a minority it sounds like a majority.) Like a certain amount of their money has to be put in a savings that they can't touch until they're 18 and no one else can touch it and maybe have a regular mental health checkups or have a third party that doesn't benefit come and check on things or I don't know just lots and lots and LOT of layers of protection.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

At least Orlando Brown didn't take Dr. Phil's advice. Good for him.

[@davidstewart7451]

27:24 It’s funny that Leo is unaware of Mmmbop, but sad he’ll only know of the song because it’s how Orlando Brown describes his sex game.

[@tuesdayallweeklong]

The sheer amount+quality content my man Leo puts out, man - I hope you know if you ever wanna take a break, we'll all still be here when you come back. Ik it can feel like you can't afford to fall off or w/e sometimes, but you genuinely spoil us with so many hour long, well-edited vids that require hella research. All us big babies have your back always, man - make sure you're looking after yourself

[@SethBeamerMusic]

He’s singing the Hanson song MMMBop when he’s scatting. Am I the only one who picked up on that?

[@shelbycrutchfield845]

Mania and psychosis both can cause "religious awaking"

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Orlando Brown

[@IndigoPhoenix21]

So that scatting that Brown did during the VladTV interview was actually MMBop by Hansen. Totally useless fact lol. In all seriousness though, Brown is a cautionary tale of the spiral of childhood stardom. He went from having everything within his grasp at an early age to feeling like there was nothing to call his own. The transition to adulthood is rough enough for some people who aren't celebrities. Even if he had people in his entourage who tried to help him course correct, which maybe he did, addiction itself is addictive, especially when you feel adrift. Of course, there's an entire conversation to be had about Disney and its direct impact on its child stars.

[@__jadedmuse__]

I love how you brought up about the people around him… that’s a good question.. it’s sad. I feel bad for laughing so damn hard. Leo, you are a gem!

[@Babyteef]

I hope Leo does a video on Jeanette Mccurdy soon too, her book entails alot of the things Orlando also went through

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

The best part now is that Orlando Brown is off the drugs. And he did it by himself.

[@sheisaMachine]

What drove him to it?

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

@@sheisaMachine maybe to escape reality.

[@lovefool.99]

I promise, your desire to be a good Dad WILL make you a good Dad. When that time comes to have kids, just be the Dad you needed and wanted as a kid & you will be that & more for your future littles! I enjoy the content and your channel and you are so funny! Take care and I hope more and more blessings come your way!

[@kennamartin8225]

Dude even as an addict that didn't want to change, Id take the trip to celeb rehab. That's a vacation compared to the places I've went. Lol

[@combat_rose]

Even though I’m very familiar with this story….I’m still here for ya Leo and watched this video all the way through. Your commentary is too on point🥂

[@peweynewton3562]

@38:00 same bro... Same... But can honestly say 9 years into fatherhood I've been the father I wish I had. However, I think if I hadn't worked in childcare for 10 years and received an early childhood education, I probably wouldn't have had all the tools to break some of the toxic patterns of my family culture