A DEEP THINKER AT WORK!!!! Ren | Money Game REACTION!!!

[@ThreeShadesofWhatever]

Don't worry, we're gonna do the Studio Version of Part 2, as well.

[@Luis.Liogon]

its a reaction to the music video or the lyrics? you saw more the phone with the lyrics than the music video... cmon😢

[@tmkellison4016]

Good, this was cool to listen to but I think the impact his harder with the video

[@ryderjohnson1293]

I enjoyed this version of part 2. It's even more haunting and captivating.

[@UlfBengtsson]

Yay!

[@woodywoodman2319]

Do not sleep on Crucify your culture and Ocean! Both Bangers!!! Not many have done them yet!!!!

[@wernersmidt3298]

Quick note: I find it kinda cool that you called Ren "The Riddler" when he is literally doing that right now prior to his album launch

[@reactivereplays5666]

A full analysis on the music video for Pt. 1: The kidnapped individual was a 'defendant' in a 'trial' with the psychotic Ren accusing him and acting as Judge/Jury/Executioner. Ren's character, through the song, goes on to explain the individual's crime: being part of a money game - a twisted game where people are divided and suffering for the sake of wealth. People who are willing to exploit their peers get ahead, and other are forced to do bad things for survival. Each time he gets close to exacting punishment and killing his victim, he stops to continue explaining more ways we twist our lives for that wealth. He even symbolically draws eyes on the head sack to signify that the victim isn't blind to it: the captor has 'opened his eyes'. He has no excuse and deserves this punishment of death. Finally, with one final attempt to do the deed, Ren's character realized the futility of what he's doing. Looking in the mirror, as per the lyrics, he is also part of the money game. And so, he puts aside his holier attitude and burns himself to death instead. As he said, as assuredly as the whole world turns while playing this game, the whole world burns as well.

[@guitarmuscle6968]

Thank You

[@janedoe2379]

I think the hooded/blind guy represents those of us who know what’s happening in our societies, but prefers to remain blind to it. Ren draws eyes for him 😮

[@sarahcp6117]

@@janedoe2379 I think I agree with this analysis more. I always saw this video as portraying the modern citizen/consumer (the hooded man) and the capitalist as Ren's character. He keeps taking steps to kill the consumer but he NEEDS the consumer. He eventually draws eyes on the hood and, for the first time, he can see what is happening and the danger coming for him and responds by holding up the guitar to protect himself. The capitalist is *seen* and realizes he now has to deal with an aware captive and turns away. Then Ren takes off the torture gear and self-immolates (a common form of protest against corrupt government).

[@kosmosyche]

Also the hooded figure in a chair with the guitar and Ren pointing a finger to his head. Think the imagery is a reference to "This is America" by Childish Gambino.

[@kuro.uchiha]

Fun fact: Shell Oil literally sold sea shells for years before expanding to oil.

[@thebritishbushman8389]

Hence the logo bro

[@chronicinokla]

Likely like the definition : A shell corporation is a corporation without active business operations or significant assets. These types of corporations are not all necessarily illegal, but they are sometimes used illegitimately, such as to disguise business ownership from law enforcement or the public.

[@lea88pu]

I always wondered about the logo,since I perceived it like fossil and connection to fossil fuel, but now it makes more sense...Thank you,good one!

[@francesdoll4039]

REmember the Buddhist monk who burned himself in protest during the Vietnam War? Ren turned the mirror on himself and saw how he was guilty too.

[@davidreading343]

I luv the way Ren takes all his nerd knowledge and uses it to inspire him and us. Apparently the video was predominantly based on the torture scene in Reservoir Dogs... You might guess he was a Tarantino fan. Ultra violence plays a big part in a lot of his art. I also got 'Clockwork Orange/The Warriors' vibes when he dragged the baseball bat along the fence, taunting his hostage with the sound. I took the ending to Part 1 to be his realisation that he was pointing the finger and blaming the very people he was judging for being ignorant. I think he's posing the question, 'What is the alternative if the system corrupts everything it touches? Even those who despise the system?'. Finding an alternative could take their profits, repurpose that power and reshape our world. But would that start the cycle all over again? I may be overthinking this but hell, Ren can make you curious and get you to look behind the curtain. Taking responsibility for your own actions and living with the consequences is one of the hardest things I've had to learn in this life. Trying to stay curious, learning how to confront my fears and accepting who we are. I know, easier said than done... But I'm engaged for the first time, in a very long time.

[@sunshynff]

I gotta wonder too, if that final scene didn't have a couple influences, google Thich Quang Duc, or maybe you're familiar with Rage Against The Machine's cover of their debut album. Yeah, check the back story, and no, that's not photoshopped, that is a real Buddhist Monk practicing the an art of protest called self immolation, and after that photo became the first viral photo ever (so some say) "the burning monk" became an international symbol of anti-authoritarian protest. Just throwing that theory out there.

[@leofoxtrot]

"Why is he so good?" haha, that's exactly my thoughts on Ren, he is incredible.

[@bpiraeus-p3b]

For me that ending scene is him saying 'I'm the problem as much as the next guy and the only way out is tearing it all down, starting with yourself.'

[@simplysimon9868]

He's got a thesaurus in his head and it shows. The live money game part 2 is good following part 1. Shell Oil history started with the Father selling shells for jewellery or big conch shells worldwide. He made a fortune then his sons in 1930 started selling petroleum. Genius Ren!! Great reaction guys 👊👊

[@Brandy-k9t]

The very first Ren song I ever heard that sold me forever was "Children of the Moon"

[@TheMCmace]

i love how ren just makes you think it's literal art not just music

[@michaelkirby4312]

I could seriously sit here and watch yall do 5 videos of ren at once. Give me a rabbit hole ren video. Big push, Sam topkins, his deeper mental stuff. Yall just scratched the surface. Can't wait to see more. Thank you guys.

[@ThreeShadesofWhatever]

Thanks for that! Subs like you keep us going! 🤜🤛

[@berrycreative7196]

That building is what remains of Brighton’s west pier. Fire damaged in 2003 it’s been left to the mercy of the sea. Brightons Palace Pier is a still functioning pier that features in his retake track Right here Right now video.

[@kellerabteil]

"and that's what he's fighting ..[..].. he's fighting against the temptations of money" 💣

[@LHartman-gj7dl]

I think that's what's left of the pier on Brighton seafront after it burnt down and they left it to rot.

[@seanchris8290]

The guy under the white hood is Romain Axisa, Rens mate and guitarist from their band The Big Push.

[@patdriver9635]

Poor old Romain. Housemate, band mate, …. victim. Great reaction.

[@berlingolingoful]

Romaine just had a new release! :)

[@patdriver9635]

@@berlingolingoful Even my car is telling me to stop playing it on repeat. 😂 Turn the Lights Down is a banger.

[@rovcanada1]

The Axl Rose/Sweet Child of Mine comment with regards to the flow was bang-on!! Nailed it!

[@Jarflex101]

The proper music version of Money Game Pt2 is the best version!

[@blackberrystag]

"Ren is The Riddler" I love you guys for this.

[@markclark2507]

Remember he was BIT like spiderman all those senses are bugging and clubbing rain rain rain were all part of the money game ..GENIUS ❤😂

[@ryderjohnson1293]

The irony is that escaping consumerism is a shell in itself. I love Rens artistry.

[@guitarmuscle6968]

As always Guys Great Reaction, but you are gonna get Spammed for watching the Wrong Money Game Part 2 😆😉, his Live Recital is Cool but the Music Video of Money Game Part 2 will make more Sense to you 😁

[@TheSkootenbeeten]

The old building in the sea is the old Brighton Pier. It caught fire once, then it was rebuilt/rejuvenated only for it to catch fire a second time and be beyond saving because the walkway collapsed. I think (please correct me, I'm just going off memory... and old memory at that) both times, the investigation into the fires came to a similar conclusion; fire damage was too severe to find the cause. Though many think arson was involved. They left the old remains there. A building was erected as a kind of memorial if you will. The building was conceived as a "vertical pier". Just a big tower with a viewing room that is also an elevator. You get in at the bottom and it raises you up to get a view. Most people would have preferred a pier... again, I think that's the case anyway.

[@jameskelley9628]

Loving the way your on the ren vibe n feeling what I feel, great video fellas

[@ricksurratt9034]

If you re-listen to that from the beginning to the end, you can still count the bars of music that’s one of the things he does. That makes him so good even in the tail of Jenny and screech when he was doing punching he was still staying in rhythm.

[@anticafo]

Loved this reaction! Confusion is a great door to deeper understanding! Was interesting to hear your thought process.

[@BeboRulz]

The gasoline scene is re: a line in the song (my interpretation) "The pursuit of our own wealth lights a flame, it makes greed a game & let's this whole world burn." Money Game Part 2 is in my top 5 songs for Ren. It's the clip at the end but as a song and music video. Definitely check that one out next 😊 I Shot the Sheriff (red suspenders) if you haven't done that one yet too.

[@LHartman-gj7dl]

I so wish you'd done the other version of Part II.

[@ChristianBoyNorman]

You need to check out his stuff with Chinchilla, it's excellent. Or Crutch which is an older one. But if you like the political Ren then Crucify Your Culture is fire

[@kattc5848]

I just love your reactions ❤ love from the UK... looking forward to the next ren session 😏😵‍💫🥳

[@DevonTuck]

Interesting I hadn't heard this raw vocal version of Money Game II I see you figured it out, will have to look for reaction to the beautifully produced video.

[@tonycomley5492]

as part of The Money Game , you should add Crucify your Culture to your list of REN reviews

[@alicegoode1599]

YESSS GUYS, I LOVE THIS ONE! THANKYOU FOR YOUR REACTIONS. I've literally just come out of therapy like an hour ago and was feeling pretty shitty but seeing a new video from you has made my day 💜

[@loris.6614]

Please please you have to do his live duets with Chinchilla! That will open up a new rabbit hole. Chinchilla has much the same vibe and talent as Ren. Each are amazing on their own, but together? WOW

[@Bobbajobb956]

You have to watch I shot the sheriff ( The Big Push) it is another REN rollercoaster! It shows his singing voice really well…..talent .

[@liamwild666]

I think the video of part 2 may be more visual/digestable and it has the lyrics on screen. Love the reaction tho!

[@eretlippand9965]

I love that Ren makes as all think so much! Great reaction!

[@winterlady10281]

Subbed for more Ren fun. Can’t wait to see Moneygame Part 3.

[@ROMANSv1212]

Yes I had the same thoughts about Ren's constant references to past songs within his songs and he most definitely leaves clues or Easter eggs within his work. As Frank zappa coined the phrase conceptual continuity, I see the same approach within Ren's work that somehow there is a connected thread between all his songs that make up his body of work. It's a good analogy to say Ren is like the Riddler. I always get the feeling he is leaving clues that I haven't worked out yet. Its like there are clues to who he is also and what makes him tick. Very fascinating guy.

[@suggy47]

You should watch ren losing it for the rapping as some of it is incredible l. And also power is great tune that is really fun to listen to. I love those (and everything else he does)

[@WilliamLamyPhotographe]

Soooooo glad you got the live version of Part 2, i didn’t see any other reactors choose this vid , they all go to the studio version

[@EM-ub3hn]

I did not know this one had a part 2. DAMN!! GENIUS!!!

[@simplysimon9868]

That's Romain Axisa in the chair. From The Big Push 😁

[@stevebrown9955]

1833 - 1892 From seashells to the world of oil In 1833, Marcus Samuel decided to expand his London business. He already sold antiques but decided to try selling oriental seashells as well, capitalising on their popularity in the interior design industry at that time. The demand was so great that he began importing the shells from the Far East, laying the foundations for an import-export business that would ultimately become one of the world’s leading energy companies. When Marcus Samuel senior died in 1870 he passed the business on to his two sons, Marcus junior and Samuel, who began to expand it. In the 1880s they became particularly interested in the oil exporting business but shipping still posed a problem as oil was carried in barrels which could leak and took up a lot of space. To solve the problem, they commissioned a fleet of steamers to carry oil in bulk, including the Murex which, in 1892, became the first oil tanker to pass through the Suez Canal.

[@ojayferojay478]

Nice one guys when you said your going to do money game 1-2 I thought on the second one you would do the original version, this was a surprise but still great. Crucify your culture is in the same way as money game but up beat plus rap and rock influenced music. Enjoy when you come around to it.

[@berlingolingoful]

I like the idea of the figure as money's temptation. So many interpretations... all valid. Great stuff.

[@mariajoseurizar5093]

I found your channel with the first reaction to Ren, with Hi Ren, I’m really enjoying watching you cuya go through the Ren rabbit hole

[@ThreeShadesofWhatever]

Thanks for being here for it!

[@MarkTomblin]

"Ren is E. Nigma." An interesting thought considering "Without Me" had Eminem dressed as Robin. 🤔 🧐 An interesting choice to do the live version for part 2. You chose the hard path I think. Keep investigating the puzzle. What does it mean when someone self-immolates? 😉

[@toolfankrk]

You did acoustc version of pt 2. There`s a video for studio version as well.

[@redbandita020]

9:49 😂😅 Billy can't even!!!

[@PeteFindsObscureStuff]

Great reaction boys. As others have said, it's worth looking at the other version of pt2. After that, please look at 'Ren - Crucify Your Culture'. Another take on consumerism/capitalism.

[@greglecig5549]

Watch the regular music video for money game pt.2 It hits way harder

[@buddahpete1241]

The building is Brighton Pier, which burnt down in 2003.

[@intothedepthscoco]

"Point the mirror at yoyrself" we are all part of this money game. I think that is the ending of part 1 perhaps.

[@Comedy.tunes.battier]

Wow props first one pointing out riddler and makes sense

[@noorieiversen]

I interpret Ren's video like this, the character Ren plays is the system, and the person covered up and blinded is a hostage, just like we the people are to our system, or government. The last part is in my opinion a tribute to a Vietnamese monk that burned himself alive as a stand against his government. Ren is saying that we need to take a stand and fight back against the system. Since his character represents the system, I think when the system "looked in a mirror" or basically reflected on itself, it had to burn itself down.

[@evolutionviii12]

This is a cool version of Money Game part 2, but I would suggest watching the video as well.

[@greenmonster4918]

It's essential... This version isn't even the full song!

[@jasonfink1269]

Absolutely 💯 awesome reaction 🤙👌

[@sbjchef]

Welcome to the Welsh mind, in our tradition we have oral history and it is taught by Bards and Druids, Ren was born in the heart of this culture

[@Comedy.tunes.battier]

Part 2 has a longer version I believe

[@iamaced479]

Like others are saying, it’s the wrong vid but still cool to see acoustic version, the real one is much longer

[@eurydiceverschuren3663]

Appropriately REN is on Brighton Beach in front of the West Pier that was set on fire by the Noble family who owned the Palace Pier next door - basically they nixed the competition. Palace Pier has now been renamed Brighton Pier 😮

[@jameskelley9628]

Btw the guitarist in the hood on the guitar is the dude in the kilt on the I shot the sheriff street performance

[@valxena9640]

For me, when he pours the gas on himself. He put a face on the faceless man, and so now he can’t go through with burning him because he has to feel empathy for the face. And we’re all each a part of the money game, we have a share of blame, so he redirects that blame to himself and pours the gas on himself at the end. Like admitting his own guilt. God, I love Ren lol

[@TheSkootenbeeten]

4:08 This was so strange to me, but not for a bad reason; this is the second Ren reaction I've watched today that suggested Ren is the Riddler or (as in the other one I watched) that Ren should have played the Riddler character in The Batman movie. Perhaps a Baader-Meinhof kind of thing, but today is the only day I've heard it said... AND I HEARD IT TWICE!

[@danaoleary680]

The guy in the chair is Romain Axisa guitarist from The Big Push.

[@chronicinokla]

Whole meaning to shell company lol. What do you think the government is hiding. From there, you'll want to take these steps: Hire a trained registered agent. Provide all the necessary legal/personal information. Have the agent register the shell company with the U.S. Securities and Exchanges Commission. Hire a nominee director to handle the filing of paperwork to shield your identity.

[@johnraygun9868]

much love gentlemen!

[@johnduff2218]

Hi Guys. Great reaction, as always. Honest and authentic. REN helps us all think with his music. I’d like to point out something that struck me about the visuals of money game part one. This is Reservoir Dogs! Particularly the infamous scene where Mr Blonde tortures the cop. Blonde runs up the radio and dances around to “stuck in the middle with you”. In the middle! A line in the lyric. Blonde draws a straight razor from his boot, whilst REN picks up a baseball bat. REN obscures his victim and draws eyes on his hooded face. Blonde obscures his victims and cuts off his ear. Visually huge parallels. It’s more than a nod to the film and that scene. Reservoir Dogs IS all about the money game. Pure greed at any cost. The love of money tending to corrupt them all. REN, in a bare stripped down way, compares and contrasts how we westerners dehumanise immigrants and people we regard as “other”. Freedom of speech is not freedom to spit hate. We are all immigrants,or descended from immigrants. Pitting one group of people against another helps keep the elite wealthy and in power. The final silent segment, powerfully drawn, evokes in me, the Buddhist monks that self immolated during the Vietnam war. People willing to die publicly,in one the most horrible ways imaginable to protest the South Vietnamese government’s persecution of the Buddhist peoples. Powerful and moving song and video by REN yet again. Keep turning this great reaction vids Guys. Peace

[@carolmillins9199]

Great reaction guys ❤

[@RadoslavMilkov-o6c]

The oil company's from old started selling seashells before oil ;)

[@simplysimon9868]

Ren drew the eyes so the victim could see then realised he had no control anymore so lost the game. Nothing left so 🔥😁

[@Calmontheoutside]

You will be in awe of how versatile he is. A good place to start is “I Shot the Sheriff” with The Big Push.

[@hughboyle]

Ren is a teacher and he even said that in the end of The Hunger.

[@moby1kinobe912]

The irony is that De Beers did exactly this with diamonds. Diamonds are not that rare, but De Beers stock piled them to control the supply and demand, then hit the advertising making people believe if you love your gal you gotta put a diamond on that finger!

[@ROMANSv1212]

The way I see the first video works on a few levels. The first is that the man in the chair playing guitar represents the artist tied to a record contract and his artistic freedom is being restricted by corporate interest and decision making. He is literally being tortured and his soul is being destroyed by being part of the money game. Another level is that the person in the chair was the aggressor, the one that had all the power and was benefitting from the money game (again could be the music industry) but now Ren is in charge and he has the power. He wants to hurt this person very badly and he is literally forcing the one in the chair to play to Ren's tune. Ultimately though Ren cannot bring himself to harm this guy anymore and realises he too is part of the money and so through this realisation he thinks it best to sacrifice himself. I also think that the fire is symbolic of purification and this imagery seems almost religious. I'm aware he has used fire as a metaphor in the past. Like in Hi Ren when he shouts "I've been in the flames that cremated my brain and I didn't once flinch or shake." I know he is a Christian and this almost messianic feeling seems to permeate through his work - that Jesus died for our sins. Maybe the act of self immolation is the ultimate act of accepting responsibility and a statement that he no longer wants to be a part of that money game. Or is there a wider meaning to it I don't know? I really down know what the drawn on eyes represents?

[@seanriley199]

The old Brighton pier looks great in this video, must have shot early

[@1118alpet]

Ren is very thought provoking.

[@AndaraBledin]

The ending of Part 1 is him pointing the mirror at himself, no longer taking the easy path of blaming the man in the chair. He touches on this further in Sick Boi and mentions being anti-capitalist in The Hunger.

[@DukeOfTwist]

The origin of the Shell Petroleum name can be traced back to the seashells that Marcus Samuel senior imported from the Far East during the late 19th Century. When his sons Marcus junior and Samuel were looking for a name for the kerosene that they were exporting to Asia, they chose Shell. Also DeBeers did the lock em up make like there is a scarcity for Diamonds. DeBeers, founded by Cecil Rhodes in 1870, has been a highly successful and effective controller of the diamond market, having developed a unique purchasing and marketing cartel that has influenced prices in the market virtually undisturbed for almost a century. But the biggest trick they pulled was creating the concept of a Diamond engagement ring. Funny thing, multiple times a girl might get engaged before getting married & 2nd hand used market is crap as most end up thrown in a lake. Diamonds have an actual low intrinsic value not like gold or silver, they devalue by 50% immediately after retail purchase. Prior to DeBeers engagement ring "A Diamond Is Forever" campaign in 1948 only 10% of engagement rings had a Diamond now it's in the high 90's. Let's not talk about chocolate at Easter or Xmas presents

[@chetthehoss]

You guys have some interesting thoughts about the Money Game lyrics, and video imagery. Here's another perspective. For the live video with the fellow in the hood, Ren was the person in power. He was acting as the bully to the downtrodden and "captured" persecuted fellow. Notice how he tortured the poor hooded (and faceless at first. Subtle) figure constantly. He threatened him with the bat. He tied a rope around his neck preparing to hang him. Forced him to play guitar and follow his instructions. He put his hands forcibly on the figure's head against the person's will. He threatened lighting him on fire. In the end however, It was Ren who chose to break that pattern from history by lighting himself on fire. I'm not convinced that his message in that video was really focused on the petroleum industry. It was, for me, more about the bullying aspect of the class system, and he finally realized that he was the problem, and decided to fix it. That's my perspective. Regardless of the meaning, the video is intense with the terrifying imagery of the hooded man in the noose. Since the video was done three years before Hi Ren, I highly doubt there are any preplanned similarities between the noose he speaks on in that song.

[@jr4653]

bill, never take it to heart when being "yelled at" in comments, some people are just passionate and i see you and your crew past and present seem to be also, so don't fret lol

[@ricksurratt9034]

The recorded video with the lyrics is good also I like this version but there’s another one

[@scurvyelephant333]

That John Travolta cameo got me.🤣

[@ThreeShadesofWhatever]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Snorlaxin_85]

That's Brighton and the old Brighton Pier. There is a full version of Money Game part 2. The end of part 1 I think he is first attacking the government and blaming the government but then he realises he is just as much to blame... hence the turning on himself.

[@Bobbajobb956]

Check out Romain Axisa …blue moon ( Elvis Presley cover) he is the guitarist in RENs band the big push….

[@duncantempleton7617]

Here’s another version of Money Game Part 2 really worth a watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6DRhGyVhq-Vppo - maybe another reaction…. 😉

[@bpiraeus-p3b]

That's romain under the hood btw

[@bpiraeus-p3b]

The notion that you have to _THINK_ to get what Ren is on about is something that music has been missing in a lot of ways, I love me some blazing guitars and pounding drums as much as the next middle aged dad .. .but these... they keep you up at night

[@silentwhisp4r670]

The ending of money game part 1 you have to listen to the lyrics. It's easy to blame but We are all part of the money game. We are as guilty as the person we point to at the top with all the money. The only difference is they are winning the game.

[@loraineisherenow6881]

Dang Ren going all the way back to the 1st Reich history lesson in 5 seconds.

[@anthonyinsetta6046]

It's fantastic part two but you have to check the the music video part 2

[@jiminit1]

It’s Brighton pier. It burned down years ago

[@ThreeShadesofWhatever]

🤜🤛

[@kazpwright]

I'm guessing he's in Brighton and behind him is the pier that got destroyed by fire. I think it's Victorian - old.

[@FearDaReaper]

Interesting you went with that version of part 2 🤔

[@docdurdin]

The hooded guy in the chair is a band mate. I think Garron.

[@donegalrediscovered3309]

He’s using shell 🐚 to talk about The Shell Company which is a huge oil Corporation in the Uk & now the world

[@beckym5747]

you need to do part 2 properly the full version x😊

[@Panikmannen126]

Hi, you need to react to Chalk outlines. Yet another side of him. A duet that you need for your playlist. Take the live version with chinchilla.