A Disney Villains Retrospective, Part 23: Catch-Up Video #1

[@OpticalSorcerer]

Twisted Wonderland, Mirrorverse, and Kingdom Hearts really makes me want Disney to make their own epic video game series with a cool story that isn't a collab/crossover with another company.

[@austinreed7343]

Epic Mickey and Spectrobes are the closest things

[@OpticalSorcerer]

@@austinreed7343 IDK Spectrobes, but Epic Mickey was more Mickey and co than WDAS films.

[@michaelharrington4503]

What about Disney Lorcana? That features pretty much all of the Disney films and their characters together with its own storyline, and it's only Disney proper, nothing else (no Muppets, Marvel, Star Wars or even Pixar). Anything not from Disney there was created especially for that game. Mind you, it's not a video game, but rather a card game like Magic: The Gathering, but it does have possibilities.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

@@michaelharrington4503 Is Lorcana a video game series? I thought that was a card game.

[@michaelharrington4503]

@@OpticalSorcerer It is a card game. That's what I said. It does, however, have potential as a video game. Plus, "Epic Mickey: Power of Illusion" does have a lot of characters from the full-length animated characters, up through "Tangled".

[@animefan77]

Geppetto: I can’t wish for the Judge to punish the wicked. Fans knowing better: you poor summer child… Later Geppetto: well, Frollo was an evil man. The new judge doom will be very nice. Fans: oh no…

[@Alejandroigarabide]

Good old Gepetto, judging judges not even by their cover, but by their title alone.

[@fleebogazeezig6642]

Gepetto: that Judge Doom fella turned out to be untrustworthy, but the new Judge Holden sure seems like an educated character, I hear he’s good with kids!

[@fizzy69o.0]

Myb not punish the wicked but smite (referrence intended) them instead lol

[@niktri8312]

The thing I love most about ColinLooksBack is that his videos double as Disney Icebergs.

[@elmasterdezoologia6641]

True

[@eaglejones856]

I actually never thought of it like that. But it is pretty cool

[@thefilmanalyzer]

Hi I’m sorry I love colin’s videos but what are Disney icebergs?

[@jmaldonado790]

@@thefilmanalyzerthey’re referring to an iceberg meme. Basically it’s an image that compiles a bunch of points of information about a singular subject and arranges them from common to obscure knowledge around a picture of an iceberg. It’s inspired by the phrase “tip of the iceberg” so information listed near the top is well known while stuff near the bottom is more obscure. Iceberg videos are KZbin videos where people will go through all the points in the iceberg and explain what they are referring to just type “(subject) iceberg” in the search bar and you’ll probably find something. People like to watch these videos because they tend to be pretty long and informative on a given subject. Similar to Colin’s videos which is why OP made the comparison. Sorry if this is a long explanation I never realized how hard it was to explain the iceberg trend until writing this comment.

[@fizzy69o.0]

Good point

[@adrimartinez4714]

Captain Hook is actually referenced in Twisted Wonderland in their Halloween event! In their world, there is a popular children’s book series called “The Adventures of Captain Mustache” who “sails the seven seas and battles giant alligators.” A character says their dorm’s Halloween decoration theme is based on it… though they are more ghost pirates so it’s also a decent Pirates of the Caribbean reference as well. As an aside, I’m happy to see how far the series has come! I’m looking forward to the 80’s and 90’s Disney Renaissance villains since they’re all so iconic.

[@j.j.hatter8444]

I am convinced that the people behind Twisted Wonderland have a MAJOR love for the Haunted Mansion, because it gets referenced various times throughout the game. Aside from the Ghost Bride, there's Ramshackle Dorm, where the MC and Grim both live. It's sort of a combo of the Haunted Mansion and the home and characters from "Lonesome Ghosts" (a bit like in Epic Mickey with Lonesome Manor). And there's also a Halloween-themed Event that comes in two parts; in the second half, the main theme VERY strongly resembles "Grim Grinning Ghosts," and the whole premise involves some of the characters trying to reach a haunted ballroom where 999 Happy Haunts are gathering for a celebration. Speaking of Events, we actually do get quite a bit of Malleus and his dorm through said Events and other things (he's actually my second favorite character in the game)...buuuut the Main Story is where most of the "meatier" things happen, and much easier to find translations for, and at least one of the Events is non-canon to begin with...so sticking to the Main Story is probably your best bet. 'XD Off that topic, I think I sort of agree with you about Jude Law as Hook. Sort of. See, I don't personally mind the new backstory, and I've actually seen a couple of Hooks that are even grimmer (take that however you will), BUT I do feel it is exemplary of much larger problem that permeates the whole film: a lot of the changes made either don't really matter, or could be seen as damaging to the source. They don't really affect the story in any meaningful way, or they go against ideas that Barrie had in his book, let alone in the original film. Hook was already a sympathetic antagonist to begin with, because even though he's a dastardly fiend, life isn't exactly great for him. Similarly, Peter - especially in the book - was already a flawed protagonist by virtue of his very existence. While making them friends-turned-enemies is an interesting new twist, it doesn't really change anything except to give Hook even more reason to hate Peter, which he didn't really need. I love Jude Law's performance, and I also think Smee and the pirate crew are fun to watch, but when even the best parts of the film show the rest of the movie's flaws...yeah, issues are bound to be about. :P

[@tristanpetty7173]

Pinocchio characters mentioning Frollo? A combination of two of Disney's darkest animated films? Now THAT'S a crossover!

[@AlfredoPuente8]

The villains have more reason to hate each other than the heroes of their histories, imaging Frollo against a gypsy puppet master, 2 criminal and the head of a child kidnapping ring.

[@taiasoncole8148]

Oddly enough a good follow up and interesting continuation of the themes in Pinocchio.

[@austinreed7343]

@@AlfredoPuente8 Two of them are anthros and one is some manner of demon, so even more of a reason.

[@SarahJareth]

I think Frollo would have more beef with Stromboli than a talking fancy carved children's toy

[@robbiewalker2831]

@@SarahJareth And Pinocchio might get on Frollo's bad side for defending Strombolli, as well as the Fox and the Cat, but not the Coachman. While Strombolli may have violent tendencies and nearly exploited Pinocchio for money, Pinocchio witnessed the ugly truth to the Coachman's intentions, by seeing Lampwick transform into a Donkey before his very eyes. I'm sure that if Pinocchio stood up for Stromboli, there would've been a tongue-and-cheek reference to the Fire Eater's soft side, much like how Sir Hiss referenced his origin as a stand-in for Sir Guy of Gisborne. And while Frollo was raising Quasimodo to be a Bell-Ringer, Frollo originally intended to drown Quasi, because he was the son of a gypsy who is deformed.

[@Kafoo_X]

In the Halloween special event in Twisted Wonderland, Idia, Ortho and the rest of Ignihyde dorm dress up in metallic pumpkin heads as a reference to the Headless Horseman.

[@Alejandroigarabide]

If you found Big Bad Wolf eating other characters as "someones fetish" (which I fully agree on), there's an episode even more disturbing about Goofy swallowing Minnie, Mickey entering his stomach to be with her (Notice: his intention is NOT to rescue her but to be with her), and then both mice end up making out inside of Goofy. Now that's some animator who needs therapy.

[@LeBasfondMusic]

😱😱😱😱😱😱

[@dexstewart862]

Wow. Eka's Portal would love that.

[@Alejandroigarabide]

@@dexstewart862 I don't know what that is.

[@BBBHuey]

I suppose the part with Goofy was meant as a joke, as it would be the last place he'd ever bother them. And obscure non-Disney variants of the Big Bad Wolf have been known to have done the same thing. But I will agree there was a lot of unnecessary moments like this. I get that they were trying to capture that "rubber hose" style of comedy. But there's a fine line between comedy and cringe.

[@dexstewart862]

@@Alejandroigarabide art site and forum that has a large focus on vore content.

[@theheroneededwillette6964]

I’m just wondering if and when those twisted wonderland pretty boys are ever gonna find out about the true nature of their “great seven”.

[@daniexists6]

This just makes me realize how talented Chris is because I swore that was Corey Burton as the mirror.

[@maddiekoester7785]

I know!! I was surprised as well!!

[@majorke600]

Very cool to see the Twisted Wonderland rep, their fantastic reimaginings of the characters! Great stuff covering them

[@katherineozawa3035]

As a long time fan of Twisted Wonderland since Japan’s launch back in 2020, I’m glad you covered Vil, Riddle and Eliza’s overarching narratives, as well as a brief mention of Malleus and Divus Crewel! To be honest, it’s rather annoying that most anime websites and KZbin channels regard it as an otome game, but thank god the US decided to launch it and SQUASH those assumptions! Thank you from the bottom of my heart for including some of the characters in this video and I hope you cover a few more in the future!

[@ColinLooksBack]

I'm glad I gave it a chance and took a look. It really is quite charming. I think a lot of people were initially turned off (or confused) by the whole anime-boy-Disney-villains hook.

[@samuelwolch1302]

@@ColinLooksBack your reaction to “influencer Snow White” Neige had me nearly choke on my water lol😂

[@darkhelliadarkfire6109]

Ah in the current batch for Chapter 7 Mickey Mouse refers to Yuu as he, so it is an Otome game in a way given Malleus' attachment to the player character, also Yuu is a male in the manga and the sexual tension between certain characters like Leona and Vil or Leona and Malleus are just too fun to not point out.

[@ahrii8883]

@@darkhelliadarkfire6109The game Yuu is not specified to have a gender, the characters referring to them as either prefect or yuu/whatever player name you chose. The light novel and manga Yuus are different from the one in the game. The light novel yuu is named yuuya and is male, the heartslabyul manga yuu is named yuuken and is male, and the savannaclaw manga yuu is yuuka who is female.

[@TheRoseFrontier]

Ah yes indeed!! Also glad to see it get shared like this. I'm relatively new to the fandom myself, getting into it at the beginning of this year, but yeah, I slept on it for the longest time, though I had friends who were into it. Thought it'd be overly melodramatic, but I was won over enough to get curious and want to give it a try. And yeah, I really love the story! I personally rather like the way they used the villains-the story itself remains very original and fresh, and the characters definitely feel like their own rather than being consigned to being a mirror for their counterpart, but it still gives a lot of homage to the classics, both through the meta references and the in-lore worldbuilding. Of course, like any world built on a "descendants of multiple worlds in one" model, the world falls apart if you squint too hard maybe, but overall, I find the concept of history getting distorted over time to be pretty believable, actually. After all, don't we also idolize the powerful people of the past, without really ever knowing what kind of people they were? And yeah, I also find the approach to the characters interesting in that the "villains" really are still the protagonists-rather, they're people with problems who easily could grow up to be the villain, but instead, we're addressing the problem now. Just, through a trauma-induced superpowered-evil-side, in true anime fashion! Also, I knew nothing about the Haunted Mansion ride, so that was really cool to learn about the "Ghost Bride" being a thing! I'm loving the deep dive!

[@thegayghost872]

I work in a library and I recently discovered a children’s book called Camp Lil Vills, which is about child versions of the villains attending summer camp. It’s a series, there’s one about Cruella, one for Ursula and one for Hades

[@atotalfiasco4213]

It was awesome finally hearing you talk about Twisted Wonderland! I adore the game and what it does with its story and villains and it's really cool seeing it get more coverage

[@brianlevine871]

That "Redux Riding Hood" special is pretty fascinating and I'm glad you brought it up here. It's also neat seeing "Legend of the Three Caballeros" get a shout-out since I also find it underrated, despite my gripes with the stiff animation and poor portrayal of Daisy.

[@Alejandroigarabide]

OMG! I never thought I'd find a fellow fan of that series!

[@rhysalexander182]

Two minutes in, I’m loving the poetic “meet and greet with Pete”!

[@pridelander06]

"He's taken a licking, but keeps on ticking" That legitimately made me smile.

[@nekoprankster2184]

Still in the middle of the video and will have to pause to sleep, but I did want to add on to the Twisted Wonderland segments: -Epel Felmier is loosely based on the poison apple itself. He even has "Poison Apple" as a nickname, among all the other reoccurring apple stuff (his name, his family's apple farm, his apple-carving, Rook's french nickname for him). Vil's motivation to take on Epel as a project even ties back to this, as one of the goals is to create a rival for Neige in Neige's own "cute" style. -It was mentioned that Rook Hunt is based on the Huntsman. This comes out in a few ways besides his design and hunter persona. Like the other two characters based on "hero" characters instead of villains, Rook's cosmic spells are light-based rather than darkness. He's also the one who saved Neige from being poisoned and is revealed at the end of the Pomefiore arc to be a major Neige fanboy (second ever member of the Neige fanclub, going to every single event, writing letters to him, and a throwaway line from earlier in the arc about Rook carrying an album of "his life's work" is revealed to be an album of solely Neige photos). -Pomefiore is the oldest house of the school. This, coupled with the Magic Mirror, has led to some theories tying the school more closely with Snow White. While it might just be a reference to Snow White being the first Disney feature film, some theorize the Queen's castle as the basis of the school building or even that Headmaster Dire Crowley is the Queen's crow familiar that obtained human form (or, alternatively, is Maleficent's crow).

[@laura_kristiansen]

My main understanding of this entry is that twisted wonderland is humanity’s greatest achievement

[@andrewponder3855]

"He's taken a licking but keeps on ticking... I am more proud of writing that then I should be." Silence! You ought to be proud, that was genius.

[@dianekier4641]

This series is so underrated

[@nemowindsor8724]

The original Peter Pan book does mention that Hook went to Eton. It’s a big part of his mantra about “Good form!”

[@martinjohnson7225]

One thing you didn't mention in the Pinocchio remake segment is that in the original the Coachman only collects stupid little boys. But the Luke Evans version is twice as despicable in that he also collects stupid little girls.

[@austinreed7343]

The only way to make him darker is to have him collect adults, too.

[@fizzy69o.0]

Good to know he started considering the Man from Bambi an actual villain

[@editpopulation]

I really liked the pathos in the relationship between Law's Hook and Gaffigan's Smee. The problem is Lowery's tragic backstory for Hook belonged in a darker adaptation that Disney would never have committed to. Imagine if Hook had that backstory, gets eaten by the crocodile, and then Peter has his "I forget them after I kill them" line from the book. Would serve as an extra motivation for Wendy to GTF out of Neverland, everyone's just fodder for Peter's games.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

I was thinking the same thing, Lowery wanted to explore the darker messed up parts of Peter Pan that get glossed over like how Peter is a psychopath and people still grow up in Neverland and like how Hook and crew carry all those harpoons because they're trying to kill the Crocodile because EVERYONE is afraid of it. But no Disney said MORE BLANDNESS!

[@thundertits]

yeah I actually find the idea of hook once being a lost boy pretty interesting if not needlessly complicated but yeah it needed to be in a darker movie to commit to it

[@camilledinesen2227]

@@thundertits if you want to see some better takes on it, and have the time Lost boy is a great stand alone novel with a pure villain in Peter pan, and Never Never is part of The Disney Villains book series, mostly it works on its own, but sometimes you can really tell it's nine books into a series with weirdly deep lore for a Disney crossover series meant to give everyone a tragic backstory.

[@starlight6947]

I've been seeing these videos,there's something so... Surreal about you talking about Twisted Wonderland. Nothing bad about it of course,in fact the thing I like the most about these videos is the dedication to give as much information as possible,even the most obscure facts,but I guess there's something about this very anime looking game that makes it stand out (yes even more than Kingdom Hearts) lol

[@FletcherReedsRandomness]

The pirate aesthetic in Peter Pan & Wendy has “bootleg Pirates of the Caribbean” all over it to me. The colors are mostly different shades of brown because “realism”, and the outfits and sets don’t feel like they have their own style aside from all the top hats. Combined with Jim Gaffigan seemingly being directed to sound as close to Mr. Gibbs as possible, and you have me going “this reminds me a lot of Pirates of the Caribbean” every time Captain Hook and his crew shows up.

[@saintfighteraqua]

The live action films all have a bootleg feel to them, except for maybe Cinderella.

[@dakotahrednour5245]

First of all, I don’t like Bootle it sounded ridiculous and disgusting 🤮. And second of all those like action movies are called remakes and they had to change it up to make it look better. Except for Pinocchio.

[@dakotahrednour5245]

In other words, they don’t look like bootlegs at all to me.

[@robbiewalker2831]

5:25: "I bought them a new house in Germany!" A reference to the Brothers Grimm; a couple of german brothers who famously collected various fairy tales in written form, and put them together in an anthology, so that they wouldn't be forgotten. The Three Little Pigs is one of those tales. 8:30: Given how Grumpy said that the Queen is full of black magic, it's very likely that it wasn't in Snow White's imagination, but rather that the Queen put a spell in the woods for whenever there are unwanted guests going through the woods. It's very likely Grumpy said it, because he confronted one of the trees on his way back home from work he goes (heigh ho!); although it's an implication, it makes a lot more sense in context to the later scene having the Queen using alchemy to physically alter her appearance. 17:33: As someone who favors the Live-Action remake of the Jungle Book over the Animated version for having a bit of the Rudyard Kipling atmosphere, that's just straight up horse puckey! 19:12: Well here’s another change that made no sense; this time it’s in contrast with the original book. In the original story by Carlo Collodi, the Fire Eater is NOT a villain, but like the Red Queen in the “Adventures in Wonderland” series, he’s actually a reasonable guy, despite his temper. The Fox and Cat, and the Coachman, on the other hand, are the actual ones to be punished in the original story; though the only punishment the Coachman would get is offering refunds for his donkeys, as the donkeys would die early. In fact, Lampwick ended up dying near the end of the story when Pinocchio found out Lampwick had been close by. As for the Fox and Cat, after they robbed Pinocchio of the cash given by the Fire Eater, the Fox ended up crippled and the Cat went blind; Pinocchio rightfully mocked them for the karma they went through. So Disney wrongfully punished the Fire Eater and let the Fox, Cat, and Coachman run off Scott free.

[@BenNelson-zl6lj]

Each time I see Peter Griffin angrily emit mock-laughter and face the screen while he’s at it, I can't help but picture him widening his mouth at the end, quickly engulfing the camera with it, and swallowing it whole (with the screen going black just before we hear him burp)

[@sammyt7981]

1:31 Peg-Leg Pete 2:28 Phantom Blot 3:52 Big Bad Wolf 5:44 The Evil Queen 13:08 Vil Schoenheit 15:45 Pinocchio Villains 25:12 Man (Bambi) 26:19 The ShellGoose Family 29:43 Fun and Fancy Free 31:00 The Headless Horseman 31:33 So Many Cinderellas 34:29 Wonderland 36:38 Riddle Rosehearts 38:41 Captain Hook 45:09 Maleficent 45:57 Eliza 48:17 Theme Park Villains

[@Alejandroigarabide]

Great retrospective as always! About Legend of the Three Caballeros, Disney's most underrated show ever, I never noticed how Xandra and Felldrake are parallels to one another as mentors of seemingly clumsy characters. Almost like he's some kind of evil Zordon and she's some good version of Rita Repulsa.

[@stproducciones9140]

what i like about Colin is that he sounds so boyish, nice and genuine that whenever he sprinkles in some cynical sarcastic comment it really catches me off guard lmao

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

Disney should have filmed and released that stage production of Pinocchio, those puppets are just incredible

[@lillithefangirl2422]

I’m so happy you brought up Twisted Wonderland, and that Eliza has her own section in the Haunted Mansion!! Personally, as much as I say I’m a fan of Twst (the abbreviation of the title), I will also be the first of many to say that the writing is… not the best. Eliza is definitely an example of that- where we have a phenomenal concept, but we don’t get to go into the full depth and realizations like I would love to see. (I understand there may be some time constraints, but at the same time, there stories *are* very lengthy, and there’s a ton of production time in between them) I adore Eliza, and I wish we got to see more into her relationship with the ghost guard she ends up marrying (it could easily be a case where she’s always loved him, but felt like he was off limits due to everyone saying he wasn’t “the right fit”).

[@sorcerersapprentice]

I second this. While I enjoy the game, actual writing is kinda mid, even when specifically talking about the Japanese version (because the English version has a lot of issues itself like watering down Jamil's backstory, which was FAR darker in the JP version). It doesn't spend a lot of time developing the characters, plot points are promptly dropped all the time (like Jack and Vil's friendship that went absolutely nowhere), certain topics aren't treated as seriously as they should (like the whole situation with the Asims, Azul's ED, etc), baffling adaption choices (seriously why aren't Neige and Vil stepbothers?), Yuu having the personality and impact on the plot of a piece of tinfoil, the character's arcs and motives are hardly fleshed out (or even ended differently like in the case of Jamil's, who I think should've been set free; period), the worldbuilding is nonsensical and all over the place, certain arcs could've been written a fuckton better (looking at you Books 2 and 6), etc. One strong point with the game has always been the premise, because it's extremely cool. I think Twst works best as a jumping point for transformative work. If you take the premise, characters, setting and just run away with it, you could write something so much more detailed and fleshed out yourself. I think that's why I enjoy writing fics in that fandom so much. It's a fun sandbox to play in. I think the core idea of it has a lot to do with that.

[@lillithefangirl2422]

@@sorcerersapprentice HECK YEAH YOU GET IT BUDDY!! I’m working on rewriting Twst, adding ocs, all that fun stuff >:3

[@sorcerersapprentice]

@@lillithefangirl2422 Oh, cool. Are you on A03? If so, what's your fic called?

[@lillithefangirl2422]

@@sorcerersapprentice I haven’t started publishing it yet, but my AO3 is the same as my username here!!

[@sorcerersapprentice]

Oh, cool. I'll keep a lookout for it. I'm AquaBurst07 on there.

[@michaelharrington4503]

The next time you do a catch-up video, here are some things you should cover: -The villains represented in this book series called "Disney Chills", the Disney equivalent of Goosebumps (Captain Hook appears in "Second Star to the Fright", Maleficent in "Once Upon a Scream", and Cruella in "Be Careful What You Wish Fur" (and in case you don't get to it in the Ursula video, she appears in "Part of Your Nightmare")) -Pete's appearance in Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway -The remake of "Snow White" (coming out in 2025), which you did mention very briefly -An upcoming remake of "Bambi", which might be difficult, since apparently it will be omitting Bambi's mother's death -J.B. Kaufman's book on "Fun and Fancy Free" also revealed that in "Mickey and the Beanstalk", Willie the Giant was to have an infant son who had some fun with Mickey and the gang (at their expense) -Lady Tremaine in Twice Charmed, a stage show on the Disney Cruise Line -The Queen of Hearts in "Descendants: The Rise of Red" -Captain Hook in Peter Pan's Neverland Adventure, a new dark ride at Tokyo DisneySea -The truly emotional short for Disney's 100th anniversary, "Once Upon a Studio" -The villains as featured in a card game called Disney Lorcana, a Disney version of Magic: The Gathering -The villains as shown in both Sorcerers of the Magic Kingdom and Midship Detective Agency

[@TheMellowFilmmaker]

"Imagine Snow White if she was a famous actress and influencer" A movie called Blanca Nieves sort of did that. In that movie Snow White ends up becoming a famous bull fighter and their version of the evil queen (she's not a queen, just an evil stepmother) ends up becoming jealous because she gets more attention by the media. It's actually a really good film. It's done in a silent film style and makes some interesting changes to the story like giving Snow White amnesia, focusing more on her abusive upbringing and making one of the dwarves be the handsome prince stand in.

[@BlueGuyTube]

44:32 this is weirdly one reason why I don't outright despise the live action remakes. Not because they're any good, but because every time one of them comes out, people always look back at the original movies, sometimes with a new-found admiration for them. The remakes to me only serve to highlight why the original movies work well as timeless stories, as well as making people appreciate all the work and care that was put into the animation

[@maurycyoseka1057]

22:47 - Steve Reviews, when he was reviewing that movie, had a same opinion about Monstro being just a pissed-off neutral predator. Remake really made Monstro truly evil by giving him a Bowser-like chuckle.

[@eggarino]

ive finally caught up, and i want to say thank you for this series. really feels like a combination of historical preservation and appreciation. the artistic efforts that went behind these characters and worlds could very easily be lost but it's incredible how much we have. the production is just as important and interesting as the product.

[@connorscanlan2167]

The yang to his yin, you mean. Yang is the more extroverted, light, projective energy.

[@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677]

"Chris Pine!" A part of my soul just went to hell because of that pun

[@Natalie66796]

I clicked because I saw Vil Schoenheit. I am Twisted Wonderland trash haha

[@rhysalexander182]

“I’ll never cover them 100%” the amount of mobile games and comic strips I’ve never heard of that you cover, you’re pretty damn close to 100%! Such a great series, thanks for all your efforts!

[@pepperraven225]

Soon as I saw Twisted Wonderland I instantly clicked. I love that game so I enjoy whenever you talk about it (´∀｀)

[@miticaBEP07]

The fact that this is a villain show leaves the worst thing of the Pinocchio remake - Tom Hanks’ Geppetto - off the hook, but I Shan’t Forget. Being Italian I’ve seen plenty of Pinocchio remakes (including a stage musical) and the most fun part is often seeing how they project the animalistic nature of the Cat and the Fox into live action. This often leads to creative costumes - the stage musical had the Fox as a woman, in accord to the books, and with the Italian voice of Ariel Simona Patitucci in the role she was a showstopper. That’s why the concept of “just use photorealistic cgi” makes me so sad and angry.

[@scar_manly]

Although Pinocchio isn't a very good movie, Coachman's new song is incredible

[@youtubewontletmetypeagoodu8128]

I thought you were talking abt the original for a second and disagreed so hard

[@sirhenrymorgan1187]

32:50 I just realized something: The stepfather's name is Trey, while the stepbrothers names are Zelly and Stacy.... El (the protagonist) = Cinder(El)la Trey = Tre(y)maine Zelly = Dri(Zell)a Stacy = Ana(Stasi)a I am only just now noticing this.

[@ciarangrainger2465]

One of the things that frustrates me the most about these live action remakes is just how dead set they are to make everything photo realistic and dark. Like guys they’re fairy tales, yes they can be dark but there’s fairies, magical worlds, a puppet that can sing and dance and talking crickets, I’m pretty sure you can take liberties with realism. It seems to me they favour focusing on correcting bad faith criticism from the originals rather than just making their own thing like the Rodger’s and Hammerstein Cinderella or Burton’s Alice movies. Go crazy with the concepts, experiment a little. Even if the final product isn’t gonna be beloved like the classics, have fun with the projects rather than quasi-correcting them into mish-mashed inoffensive retreads.

[@Nameless-ln5mr]

25:03 I can’t resist… But this should allow for something passable to come out of one of last year’s punching bags! (Even if it’s just one little joke/reference.) HELP ME GET THE SECRET FORMULA, AND YOU CAN HAVE AS MUCH ROOT BEER AS YOU CAN DRINK!

[@jaggerguth4391]

Walt Disney: You planted grass?

[@Nameless-ln5mr]

@@jaggerguth4391 Sony Pictures (post Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse): Grass?!?! HahahahaHAHAHAHA! Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’s fans: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[@reddeadspartan]

Glad to hear you mention Once Upon a Halloween, I had the dvd as a kid, I had no idea it was only released here in the UK.

[@dianekier4641]

Fun fact one of the reasons you couldn’t meet Pete for the longest time was because people would throw things at him 😂

[@sonicfanboy3375]

Fr?

[@dianekier4641]

@@sonicfanboy3375 yes

[@asharmstrong248]

I love the accidental awkward transition to the Evil Queen “I just miss the days where you could watch something and not automatically think, ‘Gee, I wonder if this is the animator’s fetish.’ Ah, youth. That makes a great transition to the Evil Queen.”

[@timrob12]

8:13 - I also like a moment to shout out Vera Farmiga who appears a Snow White's mother and the queen, in this version, takes on Farmiga's appearance to give Snow White the poisoned apple, which, in my opinion, makes this probably one of the darkest versions of this iconic scene. And Farmiga is having a ball with it.

[@gota7738]

Thank you for bringing up Legend of the Three Caballeros with Sheldgoose and Felldrake. It's a very fun series with great songs, and it was sad to see it mishandled almost straight out the door. Sheldgoose and Felldrake where especially a highlight, both dastardly hammy but Sheldgoose more the grounded sitcom villain and Felldrake the high fantasy villain. I especially liked Sheldgoose going from being unerved by the supervillainy to embracing it as the series went along. Villains who develop into more evil villains is an underappreciated form of character development.

[@gota7738]

I'm a little weary of 'Hook being a Lost Boy' as a fanon concept as I rather like Hook's privileged roots, but I do find the idea of the Peter And Wendy film following their feud to their reconciliation, or at least mutual understanding, to be a neat direction for the concept. It leans into the idea of Neverland being a play time world where kids can have dramatic fallouts one moment and then forgive and forget in the next. It's strange that this film is apparently more dour in tone, since the plotline feels suited for a MORE whimsical retelling.

[@蕭丞勛]

Thank you for mentioning Disney Magic Kingdoms! While I don't play it now since I have too many games to play, I really like some of the dialogue references, including Disney history, characters interacting with each other, even references to the source material!

[@tylerdiggs9174]

As a neat freak, I really appreciate the need for these catch-up vids. Next one should probably come after Tarzan if there's enough material for it

[@Alejandroigarabide]

We only know for sure that Gal Gadot's Evil Queen will be in that video, along with villains from every yet-to-come remake and videogame.

[@gorlheck5574]

I’m morbidly curious about twisted wonderland

[@DRACUP13]

Absolutely love this series SO MUCH So so so much!!!! Its been super fun watching it and ive learned so much about Disney history. Love the inclusion of twisted Wonderland !

[@Recessbiru]

For your next Disney Villains Catch-Up VIdeo, I hope will cover Mortimer's appearances in Mickey Mouse Funhouse. In that show, Mortimer is actually pretty mostly nice guy and Mickey and the Gang's friend.

[@darkhelliadarkfire6109]

You need to make a dedicated video to just Twisted Wonderland's interpretation of these classic Disney villians it's such a good game, also the newest batch of Chapter 7's content just dropped and the KZbinr Gasmask translated these new parts of Chapter 7 with English subtitles, it's not the best translation but it's better than waiting for the content to drop on the English server.

[@taiasoncole8148]

You're view on Phantom Blot in the Ducktales Reboot is similar to mine. The backstory was okay and I liked his interactions with Pepper... But it did feel like they made a character first and then decided to make him the Phantom Blot later as a reference. The original Blot would have worked really well as a character on his own, heck could probably be a main villain for a whole season or two. Also I am glad to finally know what the heck is Twisted Wonderland... Thank you for that lol.

[@sonicspeed4238]

5:52 that cartoon is probably one of the funniest they've made in recent years imo.

[@JaredGriffiths2000]

It's cool of you to make an update video on these villains. I look forward to more of these Disney villain videos. I agree with you about the Disney live action remakes.

[@cameronjim2983]

8:22 The making the trees come to life reminds me of the Sing Along Songs Disneyland Fun (the Paries version w/ Phantom Manor).

[@therewillbefudd]

Paused to look up Once Upon a Halloween wondering why I'd never heard of it. Unpaused and the first thing you say is "If you're wondering why you've never heard of this." How are you in my head?!? (Great vid)

[@eriksieurin334]

Given current ideas about eating too much sugar, especially kids, they could just have the naughty kids of Paradise Island guzzing soda.

[@jaggerguth4391]

Or becoming TV network Executives.

[@thecloakedschemer1897]

One thing that I think would be interesting to explore for a future catch up video are novels. There's a whole book series, A Twisted Tale, that goes into alternate paths for a lot of the movie villains, and even introducing new ones, and I think it would be interesting to cover since I don't see a lot of people who are aware of them. Of course, adding books to these retrospectives would be a very time consuming addition, so it'd be fair to not add them, but I think it's interesting to consider

[@Ireton06]

I honestly couldn’t tell the difference in audio so you’re great hehe. Excellent catch up I agree how Honest John was under used in Pinocchio’s remake. I enjoyed the new Skull Rock/Pan Vs Pirates sequences though

[@tauruslhadzyan5901]

OMFG XD the scene of the Queen as the Hag defeated by Mickey after eating a slice of an apple pie done with one of her poisoned apples is so brave blunt silly amazing and unexpected!!!

[@meganmarchionda1165]

I honestly forgot Legend of the Three Caballeros exists so glad for the reminder, will have to rewatch it now! Also glad to see Kaila Princess mention. While I haven't read it myself the storyline seemed interesting

[@regane02]

Did not expect a Family Guy clip in this though I hope it means you’ll include the cutaway gag of Jafar in the Aladdin retrospective. Also if you don’t consider the bear or the girl dog from the midquel villains perhaps you could have just Amos slade and chief in the thumbnail.

[@nicholassims9837]

Which One The Jafar needs glasses or Jafar answers the census?

[@eggmannega6895]

​@@nicholassims9837Hopefully both.

[@fattuscattus2200]

Honestly the bear was the one provoked by Amos Slade, he could hardly be called villainous. As Colin himself said when talking about the original Monstro “If you provoke an animal, it will retaliate”

[@regane02]

@@nicholassims9837 I hope both

[@Alejandroigarabide]

In this channel, predators are not considered villains. So I guess the bear will only get a mention, like Monstro.

[@icysnow9459]

I didnt think you would cover tron, but I’m glad you are.

[@BeaneCat]

I’m not much for commenting before finishing a video, but I had to pause to thank you for mentioning Snow White: The Fairest of Them All. I saw that movie ONCE on TV when I was a young’un and it stayed with me, but I had never been able to properly identify until now.

[@cameronjim2983]

I think in “Legend of the Three Caberellos”, Sandra is a nod to the original film’s animation integration with live-action humans and the typical pairing the three with a woman.

[@rei_queenkimochii]

came for twisted wonderland and was pleasantly surprised to hear that max mittleman voiced the Cheshire Cat. 💀💀

[@BrendonPatrickWatts]

This is my favorite series ever on youtube

[@tauruslhadzyan5901]

XD OMG what a great comic update for both the Mirror and the Queen/Witch on Mickey's new stories!!

[@AnaxErik4ever]

Not too bad in your round up of information based on the 1937 - 1980 villains from cartoons and films, old and modern, and the mobile games where our favorite iconic villains (or characters inspired by them) appear. For the record, Mozus Trein is my favorite of the "traditional teacher" characters in Twisted Wonderland (resembles many teachers I have had in real life). It's the cat, I swear, and also the fact that he speaks highly of his two grown daughters in special dialogue you can achieve from Joint Magic Exams. Some Twisted Wonderland further information/addendums (from an expert lore diver with a steel trap memory for details); after all, it has been said that "the villain is the hero of their own story," and there are things to be learned from all characters in a story including the villains (WARNING, long and detailed paragraphs below.): The Dark Mirror is a combination of the Hogwarts Book of Admissions (determines students' candidacy based on magical ability) and the Sorting Hat (sorts new students into one of the seven dormitories, based on the nature of their souls). It does bare heavy resemblance to the mirror in the film, but with a black filigree mask painted over it. It is responsible for transporting students and staff off campus for errands, school trips and on breaks during the story. As a game mechanic, it is in the Mirror Chamber where players summon new cards and participate in card showcase events. In this chamber is also where Pomefiore bases their "trick or treat trail" exhibit during the Halloween 1 event, playing with the idea of vampires having no reflections; the fact that there are coffins floating in the room adds to the illusion. Pomefiore is Italian for "apple flower" or "apple in bloom", makes sense for a queen who wanted to be beautiful forever; to be more specific, this "popular kids/ultra rich kids" dormitory strives for Grimhilde's skills as a potion maker and to emulate her tenacity/determination to achieve her goals no matter what adversity came her way. Rook Hunt's determination and devotion to "the pursuit of true beauty in all things" go much deeper than surface level (as players find out) than just foppish French mannerisms and freely given compliments. Epel Felmier, who has been bullied and pushed around for his feminine appearance and "country bumpkin" personality since he first arrived (Vil is a major player in this treatment.), is determined to use his education to preserve and profit his hometown farming community for future generations. For the record, Vil's last name is likely a combination of the German words "schoene" (beautiful/lovely) and "heit" (the suffix -ness), which I translate as "The Height of Beauty". #VilThePaegantMom Heartslabyul is the dormitory that is most traditional looking, resembling many dormitories at schools like Eton in England; only fitting as Alice in Wonderland is an English children's book. The Queen of Hearts' spirit of strictness/bringing order to chaos (the only non-magic user among the Great 7, what?!) is what students are sent here to learn. Out of all of the 22 student characters, Yana Toboso likely modeled Riddle Rosehearts the closest to Ciel Phantomhive. Both had little to no room to "be a child" during their formative years; likely beaten/confirmed hurt if they didn't obey ALL THE RULES of a certain role they must play; and of course, both are very short for their age. Riddle's lack of height is heavily symbolic of his stunted character growth from his "tiger parent" mother. Ace, a goofball who derives pleasure from shirking work and teasing others; Deuce, a former delinquent who wants to be an honor student to make his mom proud, make himself proud; Cater, a social media mogul who was stifled in a highly feminine interest household, moving around constantly for his dad's job... might be more lonely than he (or his clones) make it seem; and Trey, the "down to earth" and reliable leader Heartslabyul needs, each have their role to play in the backwards world of this DIRECTLY WONDERLAND INSPIRED dormitory. As for Riddle's last name, the Queen of Hearts loves her Roses red, a major contention point in Chapter 1 of main story. Diasomnia likely derives from Latin, translating to "dreaming day", perfect for a curse of eternal sleep. Since Malleus' Overblot state is still very much active right now, after dreading it coming with sensing the pattern around Leona or Azul's Overblot, we need to keep a close eye on this dormitory. Modeled after Maleficent's castle in the Valley of Thorns/Briar Valley, this dormitory is "dark ages" personified, despite the students being the most welcoming and functioning most like a unit than in ANY OTHER DORM. Maleficent, the Thorn Fairy, was lauded for her mastery of many forms of magic and her regality. Malleus' grandmother is rumored to be Maleficent, albeit with slight name changes, among the player base. Silver, the narcoleptic "fairytale prince", seems like he would make more sense at a hero academy with his respectful nature. Sebek Zigvolt (close to Sobek, crocodile headed god of the Nile, and volt for "electricity") is an arrogant, fae-supremacist who will LOUDLY argue with anyone that Malleus is superior to everybody, rabid little fanboy that he is. Lilia VanRouge, leader of Malleus' guards and father figure to all three younger boys, is the shortest member of the 22 students... but his strength and extremely taxing training methods are worthy of any "shonen anime mentor" figure. Word to the wise, don't eat Lilia's cooking; you'll have no nutrition out of BLACK COAL! THANK YOU for including Madame Mim's recent appearance at the parks for the Halloween season 2022. I thought the whole booth set aside for her was great. Princess Eliza, the Ghost Bride for Twisted Wonderland, joins a long line of Haunted Mansion sister brides before her... and I have to say, I like the Phantom Manor bride better than her. Take your freezing slaps and intent to marry our resident "introverted gamer otaku" elsewhere! Divus Crewel... while I'm not a fan of the "pet play fetish" talk he utilizes when "disciplining unruly pups", I do admire the visual nods to his inspiration being obvious without being overstated (eg a pointer stick/riding crop instead of the French cigarette holder.) My favorite details about him? His love of classic cars (I wonder what his driving violations record is; Trein says he was a nasty little shit during his time as an NRC student.) and raisin butter (chosen for the resemblance to Dalmatian spots and a mature palette).

[@Man-A-T]

Your retrospective's have been pretty nice and helped inspire my own videos so I just wanted to say thanks! I'm interested in your thoughts on the villains coming up in the retrospective!

[@samwill7259]

Glad to see the new Mickey cartoon is just using an in with ALL the classic disney characters As much as I love the Fab 5 there's only so much to be done with them

[@RoadrunnerMoose]

There is one good thing I can say regarding the live action reboots. With the exception of Time in Disney Infinity and maybe the some takes of the live action Maleficent, none of the live action versions of the characters are promoted in other Disney materials outside of the films. At least as far as I recall. Sure it doesn't absolve Disney for making these films, if anything outside of money it make even less sense why they're doing it in the first place. But it at least means that Disney still has SOME (not much) common sense to default to the originals.

[@jacktoma21]

Captain Hook was my favorite childhood villain, and I’ll say I really enjoyed Judd Law as Captain Hook. I also didn’t have a problem with the new backstory. I found it interesting how it gave him and Peter a new dynamic. I do with we got more interactions with Mr Smee, ad I though him and Jim Gaffigan had very good on screen chemistry

[@twonio]

Small detail but I thought I'd point it out: Jose Carioca's first name is actually pronounced Jose (as in more of a 'j' sound than a 'h' sound) because we don't pronounce 'j's' like that in Portuguese. Thanks for covering these other elements of Disney history as well!

[@disneyboy3030]

I do remember the creator saying Code Green hinting that a Season 2 of Legends of the Three Caballeros may have been approved. I don't know if it's still being worked on or not though since we haven't heard anything since.

[@nathano7744]

thank you for making this

[@StarWritterSW]

Once Upon a Halloween was also released here in Brazil. It was a fun time honestly, showing some sketches and shorts. Also the AMV sequences were great, especially the songs (for the Introduction and Defeat of the villains) Also if you need help with the editing, I'm here to offer my services

[@jackhamilton9604]

It sounds like the Blot in Ducktales should have been a different existing villain (one I can't think of at the moment) or be a completely orginal villain

[@victoriam.4927]

I was not expecting a Bert the Bunyip reference from this channel, but I’m certainly not complaining

[@LordM46]

Now this was not to horrible. Some good with the bad. I am also a fan of the animated films and series. oh well, great to see more of your work Colin (also in my opinion no sound problems, video works well).

[@maxordman4100]

I have never been the biggest fan of remakes and the two movies described here sound way off kilter. I agree that Hook doesn’t need an extra backstory. I also love the original messages of Pleasure Island and Neverland. So yes let’s give love to the original Pinocchio and Peter Pan. I’ll take those any day! The Peter Pan movie I like the most is Return to Neverland but the first movie will always have a special place in my heart! You are a fantastic documentarian and yes I respect that you might make a mistake or you might miss some things. We are all only human.

[@dragonoidfox838]

Yayyyy I’m happy you are covering tron in someway :)

[@n.d.engleson6499]

9:41 Mirror: I got something to tell you you’re not gonna dig- Compared to Snow White, you’re just a pig.

[@stevensampson5823]

The Three Caballeros is one of my personal favorite disney movies.

[@srstriker6420]

I wish that the Black Calderon got a remake before it’s too late

[@Alejandroigarabide]

Too late?

[@qwerty77772]

Oof, imagine the Black Cauldron getting a remake and still being worse than the original.

[@christianndlovu-lh7vu]

You know, I often think that monster row is a villain, Because if you think about it A large whale isn't just going to Chase after a tiny meal. Unless he has a vendetta against it. Or unless hes just really petty.

[@AlfredoPuente8]

The 2022 Pinocchio movie wasn't even in the top 3 best Pinocchio movies of 2022.

[@Zach-bo8bz]

Hi Colin, Maybe because you mentioned Cruella in her Disney Chills book series you could do a Disney chills episode please? Because Captain Hook and Maleficent have their books as well. Plus, When he gets up to Ursula, Scar, Hades, and Dr. Facilier in the future along with other Disney villains that might get into the Disney Chills book series make sure to include their references in those books too because they’re also in there and said he included some of those billings already. I wouldn’t want those facts to get left out. Here’s to hoping you find this idea a possibility! Please?

[@SeasideDetective2]

I've always thought of OLIVER & COMPANY (1988) as Disney's big turning point. The Disney animated aesthetic changed dramatically with that film. I don't think it was the first of the animated films to depict New York City, but it was the first one to make the city...well, "look like New York" (the "modern" New York of the '70s and '80s. (It also was the first DIsney animated film to feature product placement.)

[@AlfredoPuente8]

This is by far your longest retrospective video.