A Dive into Budokai Tenkaichi 3's AWESOME Prototype

[@jackbmh2320]

So this build was about as far out from Tenkaichi 3 as we are right now from Sparking Zero. Makes you wonder how much will be changed or polished in the final build of Sparking Zero compared to all the footage we’ve seen so far

[@enzomercier2789]

Yeah well, except that Sparking Zero had a way longer development. This is BT3 at like, 65% of it's development, while we're at around 95% of Sparking Zero's development time (assuming the 5 years are true)

[@jackbmh2320]

@@enzomercier2789 Yet we know they’ve made significant improvements to the game in just the last month alone when you compare the summer games fest build to the build that Japanese players were able to test

[@onizuka255]

​@enzomercier2789 maybe somw UI changes, personally looks kinda meh but who knows

[@CZ-PC]

Wow that's a great commentary.

[@jackbmh2320]

@@enzomercier2789 We’ve seen major improvements for sparking zero in just the last month of development, they can still change plenty if they need to

[@SuperZaiyan9]

They thought Goku mid didn’t look mid enough

[@Myoriaki]

Shut the hell up

[@fabiolopes8615]

Still gave him a meteor combination of db Goku though...

[@spiderzilla7o7]

HELL YEAHHH SOMEONE MADE A JOKE ABOUT THAT

[@flarigrar7114]

Majin Vegeta's final explosion not killing him was probably purely for testing purposes

[@BeefBruh]

It doesn't kill him in the final product either. He just remains with one tap of HP

[@Jvxino]

It doesn’t kill him in any Dragon Ball game

[@_jagger1407]

Imying it makes him S-Tier is hilarious, people really have no idea what the meta of BT3 actually is lmao

[@Path_To_Paradise_YT]

From what I've seen from Competitive BT3 matches the players hardly get to perform their ultimates due to not having enough time to charge into max power so I'm assuming Ultimates don't really matter competitively Also funny enough in Moded BT3, Vegeta's final explosion changed into a Cinematic attack with insane range and can't be dodged or interrupted while keeping Vegeta's health and doing insane damage I wonder how will this Majin Vegeta effect the meta with this version of Final Explosion@@_jagger1407

[@Path_To_Paradise_YT]

​@@_jagger1407kzbin.infop7nZP-wNWbg?si=wCQ30F1Gah3xynL8 managed to find the mod, it's insane that you can even clash with it, the explosion is also way larger

[@corel7966]

huh. I noticed that ssj4 gogeta isn't ignoring broly super armor in the prototype. typically characters who are canonically as strong as or stronger than ssj3 can stagger giant/super armor opponents in the final game. maybe it wasn't implemented yet...

[@fluffybunny4891]

ngl this feels so wrong seeing broly ignoring gogeta ssj4 punches

[@hydra4370]

Broly if he worked out for another week ​@@fluffybunny4891

[@adamspeiser6449]

There was no limit to it in terms of basic attacks either. Usually even slightly stronger characters only take a few punches to stagger, but SSJ 4 Gogeta did not stagger him at all

[@KalterPakster]

Take a shot every time this guy says a change is massive when all it is is just something like a different pupil position on the render

[@adamspeiser6449]

Huge to OG players who care about that stuff maybe, but I agree with you

[@QuickThekidd]

@@adamspeiser6449stop glazing

[@adamspeiser6449]

@@QuickThekidd, who or what am I glazing exactly? I said that I agreed to them not being big changes, and I am somewhat of an OG player myself

[@NikkiTrip]

Taikenbans are basically demo discs, and they've been a thing for as long as the Sega Saturn days, I think. So that would explain why there's only 17 characters. It's less of a prototype, and more of a demo build of the game.

[@evilchild1851]

X20 Kaioken may be fixed, but at the expense of the “Meteo Combination”

[@adamspeiser6449]

Pick your poison

[@Ledouche1234]

I remeber playing Tenkaichi 3 after playing 2 to death and immediately noticing how much detail was in 3 compared to 2 and especially 1

[@asjhkahs7047]

I notice that during your AI match, SS4 Gogeta doesn't break through Broly's super armor like in the final game.

[@biscotti2]

I wonder if it would’ve been a what if in the game. Gogeta going super saiyan 4 to fight broly. Too bad it’s two separate characters

[@biscotti2]

@@creezuz of course in GT but like In Tenkaichi, maybe they were gonna make the opening intro to the game the final battle for what ifs. Start the battle on Roshi Island, then follow up wherever they went next. It would’ve been a lot and it’s a big idea but maybe it was passed on. The story modes in Tenkaichi 1 were 180x times longer and drawn out (for better or worse)

[@SourTb]

"Goku's render is A LOT different" Brother, his eyes are just looking slightly to the right, what are you talking about?

[@riddle_me_this9127]

The prototype has a slightly different shape of the face and a different shape of the eyes. The chest has a slightly different size too

[@private_c]

Looking at Goku mid in prototype compared to what we got in its final release the eyes looked weird when I first played the game in the final version cause I was like "what's bro eyeing at?"

[@KikonSketches]

That ss4 gogeta big bang kamehameha is actually way cooler than what we got in final, i actually prefer it

[@sky-oq5mr]

Can't beam clash with it

[@Ace_of_Horns]

The Mid Goku Profile Pic looks way better in the prototype. His eyes always looked super wonky to me in the final version.

[@mythosinfinite6736]

Brother looks like he's caught some honkers offscreen

[@Ace_of_Horns]

@@mythosinfinite6736 lmao knowing Goku it was probably some really strong looking dude.

[@MartezAnims]

​@@mythosinfinite6736 Mythos? Never thought I'd see a Mugen creator here.

[@vincentopperman1420]

That’s just how Dragon Ball characters are supposed to look. Akira Toriyama designed them with those brows

[@NameChecksOut]

Proto Goku mid looks cross-eyed

[@arrownoir]

Love these types of videos.

[@Idkitzjushdc]

At least properly give ViveTheModder credit for providing the information on this prototype in the description and or a pin comment. He did most of the research for you because he’s the one who posted the article. Saying this respectfully.

[@nora-yc6fi]

Bro I'm so upset they changed ssj4 Gogetas ult from that prototype to what it is now I wish more games would let that move be show accurate where it's a wave of ki and not a standard beam attack So much cooler

[@sky-oq5mr]

Can't be clash if it's like that

[@nora-yc6fi]

@@sky-oq5mr explosive madan just destroys any beams that touch it (iirc) It could just function like that move does

[@Koodllez]

I don't think people want hot air as a ult

[@alejandrogrullonburgos7134]

this looks so good, i think i remember trial versions of this game back in 2007.

[@VeggiePun]

Keep up the good work king. Not a lot of KZbinrs going through DB cut content. Hope to see you covering Sparking Zero in the far future!

[@CZ-PC]

Great video but "insane" is a bit of an over exaggeration. As prototypes go that is.

[@MartezAnims]

It helps with the algorithm, im sure he's aware of how overblown the title is

[@QGUU]

@@MartezAnimsIt’s lame lmao. This clickbait shit is annoying, he should’ve just been honest. People would still watch.

[@CZ-PC]

@@QGUU Exactly. Especially with such a low information dense video. Just read the cutting room floor article.

[@ViveTheModder]

It's funny how he took care of the problem by having less of it be there, rather than none of it. Changing it from INSANE to AWESOME is so laughable, because it kind of doubles down on the clickbait.

[@adamspeiser6449]

It would have been cooler to see the rest of the cast. In a different video I saw some of them and believe I saw a lot of BT2 animations in place for certain characters on super attacks, and some of them were not finished at all. That said, it just seemed like a build of the game with mostly everything there, but no polish to it. It is cool, but nothing super big

[@Howardpower679]

Gogeta not breaking brolly armor is cursed

[@ovpain1333]

*broly

[@Howardpower679]

*brolly

[@qwerty-dm8gr]

​@@Howardpower679it's literally ブロリ― so one "l" so you can take the extra L you added for yourself, champ.

[@Howardpower679]

@@qwerty-dm8gr geez you guys take everything seriously bruh

[@Howardpower679]

@@qwerty-dm8gr *brolly

[@namenlosNamenlos]

How you have the prototype build is beyond me.

[@xhale671]

The Burst x100 Big Bang Kamehameha would be cool if it kept the speed and distance of a regular beam

[@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970]

I don't think ssj4 gogeta does that much more damage than usual, he really got overhyped by people. You should watch globku's learning of tenkaichi 3 tier lists. A lot of people have that misconception.

[@LegoMarioDude1]

Goku Mid's "Meteor Combination" was spelt "Meteo Combination" in the Proto-Type

[@adrenaliner91]

Please, keep the right aspect ratio of 4:3 if you are not using any good widescreen hacks, second you should change the settings in the emulator because the picture is wrong here and that also hurts, also the mouse is annoying and why are there even black bars on top and bottom and a big fat "Warden" on the left that is just too big?

[@UsmanX]

The build date kind of makes sense, E3 2007 kicked off July 11, so this build is likely the promotional build they used to showcase / demo the game at E3

[@DiamondsBrainz]

what i notice during that ssj4 gogeta vs broly fight was Gogeta's Ultimate Impact tracks instead of straight lined.

[@gorfelbt]

They took all the sound effects from BT2... I knew them once I heard them.

[@sky-oq5mr]

2s is just Tenkaichi 1 sounds

[@AAlmaDoAlem]

Wrong, in BT2 you CAN boost your attacks, every B1, B2 e UB have a boost feature, but not displayed on screen, some of then none but others like Vegeta's blasts and Gohan's Blasts have it (and Kamehameha too).

[@spiderzilla7o7]

I like how Vegeta is in ultra ego in the menu

[@Hashbrowniepie]

Always hated how they changed Gogeta's Big Bang Kamehameha for the final game

[@HT_Tony]

Please make a very detailed video on the unused things in this game no one else has made one yet🙏🙏🙏

[@home9dog2blue199]

Couple of things i just randomly thought about: 1.) i wonder why they never implemented "time limits" for fusion dance characters in these games 2.) How did the Saiyans return to their humanoid forms after transforming into Oozaru/Great Apes? 🤨

[@BahastDavid]

Great job dude Can you make a similar video about budokai 3? Cus this video idea is very interesting

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Well this is surely different well done.

[@JunGaGotoku]

Shout out to the Kai-oken kamehameha vs the final game's Kai-ken kamehameha

[@Spencer_232]

This is pretty interesting.

[@Thebigcmaverick]

I wonder if the 100x Big Bang Kamehameha was change for the Final Build so it can be Beam Clashed?

[@JamaalDaGreatest]

That's exactly why

[@nessdbest8708]

Great video would love to ekes more

[@NTWdiver]

Do some characters have an afterimage clipping through them,or am i having a stroke?

[@NightStarX99]

Ah yes, minor changes, buffs and nerfs to attack values. How "insane".

[@metalsnake262]

I love this content

[@risingrevolt]

Why did you play with the widescreen hack? it messes with the shaders on the models.

[@Cosmic-Bear.]

Why was it fully translated if it was just a prototype?

[@nero_149]

You can acess all the characther by modding the duel mode files and replacing with the completed one😅 even with tools like sparkling studio you can do that, that what vive did to research it when the iso was first reveladed in the bt3 internacional community discord

[@MemeinAndDreamin]

What's up with the shadowing effects of characters in Super Saiyan and all that? I've seen this in a few other BT videos and I don't remember them at all from when I played the games before.

[@tanooki_fra]

He didn't setup the pcsx2 emulator correctly, there's a sprite alignment to do manually in settings

[@rov-0250]

Why does this game look smoother than Sparking Zero? Maybe it's the camera work, the animations and the colors not being awfully saturated.

[@ProbablyAnders]

is it your emulation or like a video rendering thing? almost all the characters while moving or using attacks look like they have stands

[@BFHKevin]

It's an emulation issue that can be easily fixed. Putting that aside, this video was massive clickbait. The only substantial change thats "INSANE!" is that Gogeta's older ultimate looked better, but it looks like the beam has a smaller radius and doesn't "strike", just like the anime. I guess this was cut off because of how underwhelming and impractical it was, kind of like Adult Gohan's failed Masenko.

[@jesser5138]

​@@BFHKevin I had that problem, I fixed it but in some very weird way, whats your fix?

[@boh6575]

​@@jesser5138 In video settings (I'm using PCSX2 1.6, but should be the same or quite similar on other versions) Toggle "Enable HW Hacks" then go to "Configure Hacks" leave everything as it is except the "TC Offset X and Y" Try some combinations yourself, since It vary on your screen resolution, maybe start with y:350 x:350, you'll probably notice immediately the visual change If something else break try to disable everything in "Configure Hacks" except Texture Offset, actually some of those settings fix many graphical glitches (but sometimes create others) you have to try and see

[@RuinedFox]

Bro yapping away just get to the point

[@El_Peje2]

bro the link in the description is missing a ) or it got weirdly separated

[@Nightxx9199]

If it is built off of neo. Neo's cheats might work

[@_jagger1407]

it's not a cheat problem, they were created specifically for the demo, he just didn't know how to use them in PCSX2

[@Nightxx9199]

@@_jagger1407 In fairness. It can be a pain in the ass finding the CrC depending on the version of pcsx2. So they could actually setup the Pnach file properly.

[@ViveTheModder]

@@Nightxx9199 Except it really isn't. In older versions, the CRC is displayed when opening the Console option in PCSX2. In newer versions however, it's even easier. Just by going to Tools -> Edit Cheats, the emulator can make a pnach file with the correct file name if not present.

[@Nightxx9199]

@@ViveTheModder How about you think from someone elses perspective who don't emulate and steal daily. Before opening your mouth just to sound like a know it all jackass. Internet has enough of those already as is.

[@SUPER-BRWARS]

Se você finalizar uma luta com o Kamehameha kaioken de goku mid nesse protótipo goku vai ficar vermelho na tela de vitória.

[@alien2562]

Hey umm how can i install the same emulator you used?

[@burakkyi]

Pcsx2

[@calvorambo]

Hi Warden, in your XV2 game enhancer you changed in base game character skills, i was wondering how did you taht bc the only method I found is outdated

[@ochinchin5]

Super garlic gun😭😭😭

[@ryanhorton9594]

Couod anyone point me to a site to download budokai tenk 3 mods?

[@norrecex3547]

How can i download this game?

[@songoku9348]

From October 11th all those fan BT4 mods will officially be put out to pasture. No one will need them anymore.

[@_jagger1407]

Oh hell yeah, invalidating years of effort by the community, you love to see it

[@songoku9348]

@@_jagger1407 Yeah well the professionals will deliver. They’ve all had their fun.

[@sorlakvader155]

Regardless of how good sparking zero might be, the BT4 mods will still provide characters sparking zero can't, such as those manga exclusive. Also some people may not have the requirements to run sparking zero or might just prefer Olds BT3 longplay

[@CroAce97]

Both games will be played old for nostalgia and new for multiplayer

[@songoku9348]

@@sorlakvader155 Time to save up for a PS5 or upgrade their PCs then eh?

[@yalocalsnack]

15 years old? bro did u forget how to count🤣🤣

[@stanleech666]

"Garlic Gun" is the actual name of the move lol.

[@VoidJWKDDOUS]

Its probably a joke they made (TFS made that joke after it was released so BT3 made the joke first)

[@ihatezen]

Get to the point damn

[@QGUU]

Lmao fr. And these changes were boring

[@stephencarter7321]

this was not insane

[@freezasama5802]

I prefer bt2 😒

[@Yourmaynder]

the blue ki charging was😮

[@RedXDragunov]

I watched this video on silent mod 🫨🫨