A Further Discussion of the Pinto Suspension and the NHL's Gambling Policy

[@robnevitt7593]

I completely agree with your stance on gambling. Thank you for NOT making it a focus of your channel.

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

This is something I genuinally respect Shannon for. He could sell out for a lot of money but it would have to be turning a blind eye into the devestating knock on effect it would have on some viewers.

[@visapesonen7100]

KZbin just showed me a net casino ad in the middle of the video :|

[@KyleMacBean]

I appreciate that you don’t push gambling in your videos. Like you said, we get more than enough of it as it is. Class act. Cheers! ✌🏻

[@coreymickanuik8199]

I have never gotten into sports gambling and I do appreciate that you stay clear of it on your channel, there is way to much of it these days. Its a real turn off.

[@simbeau]

As a compulsive gambler, with 17 months clean time under his belt, thanks for having an open conversation about this.

[@chefboyardeeznutsinyourmouth]

Stay strong brother

[@annetttt]

I hate all the gambling crap on tv, I mean gamble if you want but it's so aggressive that it seems shady af

[@mattlovespeebee]

Ironically enough, Draft Kings was the ad right before the video. About gambling on NHL games, a video that I watched early by Jeff Marek, both Jeff and a reporter who writes for The Athletic (his name eludes me) both agreed that players who bet on NHL games in the past received Lifetime bans.

[@RRaquello]

In the NFL in the 60's, Alex Karras & Paul Hornung, both Hall of Famers, were suspended for betting on NFL games. They received one year suspensions. They didn't bet on games involving their teams (Detroit and Green Bay) which is why they didn't receive lifetime bans. In the NHL case in the 40s went much deeper, but also involved the two players who were banned betting on games they played in. That's what will draw the "death sentence". If a player was caught betting on NHL games, he'd get a harsh suspension, but if they didn't involve his own team I doubt he'd get a lifetime ban.

[@abovewater6918]

I have no issue with this suspension. My issue is that the NHL doesn't take other things nearly as serious. Things that are worse offenses. You only get 7 games for kicking another player, with a skate, which could kill a person if it went badly

[@georgies1063]

This exactly! 100% agree

[@csolivais1979]

Until the players want to make this an issue, there is only so much the league can do.

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

Players/officials betting on the games they're playing on poses an existential threat to the credibility of the sport. Which (crazy as it sounds) is much more damaging than one player's career ending because of a dirty hit.

[@shaman9]

If only the NHL policed the on the ice rules with such vigor

[@eerokinos6213]

What kind of atrocities should one commit on the ice to get suspended for 41 games?

[@benoitrobitaille5235]

Chris Simon ended up suspended for 30 games for baseball batting his stick into Hollweg face. So for 41, maybe something worthy of the Geneva convention ? Probably implicates skates and on purpose in the same paragraph.

[@brianschlaf7007]

@@eerokinos6213dirty plays and hits that can effect players careers and long term health and life

[@MarkelScott100]

​@@eerokinos6213ig a dirty hit that ends someones szn or career

[@defectiveindustries]

@@MarkelScott100 Which in itself is odd in that that should generate an assault charge, which then opens a big can of worms

[@Benji-mx1no]

Thank you for not putting the betting lines in your videos. It’s so annoying, and gambling just takes something away from the sport itself. Can’t stand the NFL pushing it 24/7. Great video!

[@FeelingPeculiar]

What!?!!? Betting on the games is what it's all about. Can you beat the sportsbooks? Most can't, a few do. What you are saying is basically "making an educated guess is stupid". Do you think betting in the markets is stupid? Investing in companies?

[@MarkelScott100]

Same with the nba its somewhat ruined my favorite broadcast TNT with the scripted fan duel segment they do

[@jefflarson1652]

@@FeelingPeculiar If you're only watching sports to gamble, you aren't really a fan, you're a gambler. Yeah, the NYSE is a casino, but that isn't investing in a company. That's betting on a company's stock. Your "investment" isn't going to help or hinder that company like it would if it was a start-up. They already sold their stock when it was issued.

[@captbloodbeard]

​@@jefflarson1652 Not to mention that there are severe regulations in place to safeguard the money of investors and an entire government agency, the SEC, devoted to policing the marketplace and companies that take investors money. Its a very different thing.

[@jayjayson9613]

There's going to be another Pete Rose situation in one of the 4 major sports. Its not a matter of if it happens but when it happens. Personally, I hate gambling. Its ruined my family's life due to my fathers addiction. Lost our house so personally to see these leagues dive head first into gambling sickens me. The hypocrisy of the NHL and honestly of the NHLPA is beyong disgusting. The NHLPA is to blame here as well, they allow their players to partake in ads and be accomplishes to promoting gambling. Thank you Shannon for not accepting any gambling ads and for not promoting gambling on your channel in any form.

[@tonybustamante9942]

Sometimes I feel like the only person who watches a ton of sports but doesn't gamble

[@markdowding1933]

I worked at a Casino for 18 years. You are entirely correct with your assessment of gambling. I spend too much time on utube and the amount of sports gambling ads I get are terrible.

[@itsjustme1616]

Honestly my only issue is that on the ice stuff, you know stuff that could quite literally end a man’s playing career, change the trajectory of a man’s career in a negative way, or even worse, isn’t punished NEARLY this intensely. And I have a bigger problem with that than I do off-the-ice issues. Repeat offenders need to get this type of treatment, no matter how much this warrants a suspension.

[@claytonwillis8474]

This exactly. How many times has Tom Wilson nearly ended someones career and gotten a 2 game suspension?

[@csolivais1979]

Until the players want to make on ice infraction punishments more severe, this is just a pipe dream. It's the same reason why the NHL can only give players $5,000.

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

This issue is the integrity cost. If a guy runs another guy, it may end one guy's career. If match-fixing leads people to believe that what they're watching isn't genuine competition, the sports/league faces an existential crisis. That's why the Black Sox were punished so harshly.

[@andybeyer2230]

Tom Wilson gets a slap on the wrist for literal attempted murder

[@claytonwillis8474]

@@kiroolioneaver8532 Do you mean like the fix they put in to make SURE Chicago got Bedard after Toews announced retirement? Cause I personally know 3 people who stopped watching the NHL after that bs happened.

[@cptdeadeye2112]

Back in high school, I first placed a sports bet (I shouldn't have been allowed to, under 18). After all, other kids showed off their winnings like some geniuses. Then the best thing happened- I've lost. It was a very cautious bet, hardly a long shot. I found myself rooting for teams I didn't care about and begrudging players and goals for no objective reason. Then I realised: -It's not fun, and it makes watching sports an anxious activity. -The odds are against me. It has to be, or the company wouldn't make money. -All those kids telling winning stories are gross survival bias (though I didn't know the term at the time). For each win, there are several kids keeping quiet about their losses. I never waged on sports again.

[@joeimbesi5361]

It was reported, I forget by whom, that he placed bets on NHL games by proxy but didn’t place bets through his own account. Might explain the harsh suspension and the fact that there won’t be an appeal through the NHLPA.

[@historyrepeating]

I think it was Seravalli - and it’s the only thing that would make sense given the amount of games and the fact Pinto accepts the decision

[@ryanbates362]

Maybe Shane Pinto bet on whether Shane Pinto would sign with Ottawa?

[@NanGears]

I think a lot of the frustration and response from people online really comes from a culmination of other issues fans have with the league and isn't really considering the Pinto situation for what it is itself (as with your excellent points, it is likely a well-earned suspension, based on Pinto's and the NHLPA's response). Like you said, there's a lot of frustration with the prevalence of advertising for betting by the league (all the ads on articles and broadcasts discussing the issue are all very laughable moments), so it seems hypocritical of the league to then more severely punish a player for this then things that fans feel deserve much more attention, including on-ice behavior, like dangerous hits, and other off-ice behavior, like the several players related to the Hockey Canada investigation. Really these issues are actually unrelated, and Pinto being suspended does nothing in relation to these other things getting attention, but I think a lot of fans just feel like the league will do absolutely nothing for so many things and then see Pinto get a 41-game suspension and get mad that the league could be doing more about other things.

[@edalder2000]

We'll have to get the details in due time. The irony is that Ottawa's helmet sponsor is Bet99.

[@fphlflash]

Moral of the story: just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD.

[@Mark-jr6ld]

There will always be something sleazy about legal bookies partnering with professional sports leagues.

[@martinedwards2004]

Your video finished and the Google ad that came up was for sports betting. Poetic!

[@cbett4431]

they said they had negotiated for a while and settled on 41 games which means they were originally pushing for much longer (maybe a full season)

[@mgguygardening]

Interesting, thanks for the information. I hadn't heard that yet. It must be pretty serious.

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

To people who don't understand why gambling warrants a heavier penalty than say a dirty hit: a dirty hit may end the career of one player. Match-fixing literlaly poses an existential threat to the sport/league. Wonder why no one watches pedestrianism or rowing in large numbers or why the players in the Black Sox scandal got lifetime bans? Yep, that's right lol matchfixing hurt those sports.

[@MrZachtheKingsfan]

It’s hard to say whether or not if the league made the right choice, because we were given such vague information. This isn’t like a player only getting a $5000 fine for nearly killing someone on the ice. We have eyes, we can see in situations like that when the league is making the right call or not. Most of this situation was done behind the scenes, and we can only go off of what they are telling us. We might never get the full story, but even then, we can’t just rush to say the suspension was warranted or not.

[@nickdunne9530]

Agreed. We don’t have enough info to understand whether or not what he did was serious. If he was giving inside info or even putting himself into debt with the wrong people, that’s enough to potentially compromise the game. That puts the NHL liable to all sorts of legal issues and can ruin the influx of gambling sponsorships and dollars into the league. There is something to be said though about the bombardment of advertising and inevitable jump in problem gambling. Players are people and will get caught in that wave.

[@DiogenesTheCynic.]

Brought to you by Carl’s Jr. + Draft Kings

[@americandeathtrip6881]

and Pfizer

[@RRaquello]

It's a good thing for Pinto he got caught with this when he was young before the problem could get even worse. I've seen the damage a gambling addiction can do in m own family. I'd also seen drug & alcohol addictions up close. Gambling is the worst.

[@RRaquello]

@cdfmmcc The thing that makes gambling abuse so bad is that it can go on for a long time before anybody notices. You can't hide a drug or alcohol addiction for long once it starts getting bad, but with gambling it can go on for years before the family discovers their money's all gone, their house is gone, their lives dragged in the gutter. The other thing is that it's actually a form of self-abuse, with a lot of masochism in it. The compulsive gambler doesn't want to win. He wants to lose. When he wins, which they do sometimes, he doesn't stop til he loses what he's won. The fact that the NHL is promoting this stuff is as disgraceful as if they were peddling heroin, cocaine or any other type of compulsive behavior including pedophilia. It's too bad guys like Gretzky are willing to associate themselves with this "industry".

[@RRaquello]

@@trevoravery9270 Nothing wrong with playing a $2 scratch off ticket or any kind of moderate gambling done for fun. I do it myself on rare occasions. But when you know someone who five years into a marriage finds her husband has taken all of their money out of the bank and blown it on bets, hasn't paid the mortgage, hasn't paid income or property taxes for several years and finds themselves foreclosed and thrown out of their house with two young kids and owing tens of thousands of dollars in shared debt to the US government (both parties sharing the debt obligation because of joint income tax) and the husband arrested because stealing money from friends and family, then you can understand where gambling can lead you. You're life is ruined and you're stuck with a bill it can take years to pay off. The person I'm speaking of in this case was a close relative. It's not the only case in my family. Happened to my grandfather, who lost a business over gambling debts and while he never got arrested, he had to "take it on the lam" with his kids (one of whom was my mother) and his wife because some of the money he lost belonged to his business partner. You're going to tell me drug addiction is worse than this? At least with drug addiction there is a warning. You can't hide a heroin or meth addiction for long, but with gambling you only find out when the police or sheriff comes knocking at your door with a foreclosure or eviction notice and then it's too late. You're already cooked.

[@csolivais1979]

​@@trevoravery9270I live in NW Indiana. They opened 3 casinos in our area. My friend's gf at the time was a card dealer there and at least once a week she would have a person crying at her table because they had blown their whole paycheck or social security money. So no, one 2 dollar scratch off isn't a problem, it's when you see people getting a 100 to 200 dollars worth of tickets.

[@robertdufour5386]

Thank you for the great video on this topic. Like many here, I think that pro sports have jumped in way too deep in embracing gambling. We went from a complete non-association to now a overly permissive relationship (in-game betting). It’s a dangerous slope. As we have seen in other sports, players who lose big gambling can become a real risk to corrupting their sport (e.g., sharing info not available to the public at large to edge their bets, or worse).

[@natemundt4752]

Great conversation about the honesty of gambling, Shannon! Definitely think it’s pushed too much on broadcasts. Also love the Raid Shadow Legends reference 😂

[@tee_es_bee]

I stopped following other channels as they started to push gambling really hard. Thank you for staying out of that space. 🧡💛🧡

[@deltadovertime]

Thank you for your discussions on gambling. I think there is a double standard with gambling/alcohol vs drugs, which I never understood why. They both can destroy lives while at the same time responsible users can keep it together. I just don't think we should be advertising alcohol or gambling with a ban on marijuana advertisements. And I guess for the record I don't think any of the 3 should be advertised.

[@artystaar]

If this channel were a sweater, it would have no advertising patch on the shoulder. AWESOME!

[@bradleydavis4852]

thx for your honesty about gambling ads.

[@tt128556]

Can't wait for the THG reviews to start containing "this power play goal was brought to you by Bets4eva" etc.

[@jakeaaron]

Anyone remember when Rick Tocchet and Gretzkey's wife got busted for their involvement in an illegal gambling ring? It seems weird that's never talked about. Times have really changed.

[@sellsled]

Funny i was just reading about operation "Slapshot" on wiki, them along with JR and a leaf

[@schumdav]

I appreciate that THG does not include odds and gambling crap on this platform.

[@ZakingGaming]

Absolute BS that Chicago covers up sexual assault and receives barely a slap on the wrist, but Pinto gambles on, according to the NHL, non-hockey related games and he receives 41 games??? There has to be more they aren't telling us. Even if he was gambling on the NHL, 41 games seems a bit much. If the NHL wants less gambling maybe they can stop cramming it down our throats. Thanks for the content as always THG.

[@Darrakkii]

Bowman and Quenneville are still both somewhat banned from the NHL, if they don't get Bettmans permission they can't get hired by any team, though I do agree the Blackhawks organization got a slap on the wrist- and I'm a huge Blackhawks/Bedard fan

[@JoeMazzullaaa]

NHL also crams alcohol ads down our throats but I'm not going to blame the NHL if a player goes drunk driving.

[@americandeathtrip6881]

drinking and driving is illegal@@JoeMazzullaaa

[@tomfilipiak3511]

All,pro,sports,support gambling,a sickness,that ruins families,money talks,Evil!!!

[@AYJets]

Exactly. This is why I don’t understand why people think the Pinto situation and the gambling ads are independent of each other.

[@scottolsen8582]

It's amazing how you have to explain it.

[@vipeholmskolan6052]

I wonder if this is the real reason why he hasn't been extended yet.

[@YetiSmasherOhnO]

Bless you for spelling judgment correctly.

[@eliaminator2313]

The suspension seems fair but theres a lot of awful things other teams have done like the Blackhawks that nothing happens so I think thats what really bothers people

[@Darrakkii]

Bowman and Q are still both somewhat banned from the NHL, they need Bettmans permission to get hired again and I doubt that'll ever happen. But its true nothing really happened to them.

[@MrZachtheKingsfan]

Yeah it’s a problem when the league takes gambling way more serious than SA misconducts.

[@MrZachtheKingsfan]

@@geoff3103 The Beach situation most definitely isn’t a “he said” thing. There is plenty of evidence on what went down. Joel Quenneville would still have a job if it was just an accusation thing.

[@JoeMazzullaaa]

@@geoff3103we have people confirming they and others knew about the allegations and chose not to investigate them further, this isnt about "he said, he said" because they never heard the accused persons side of things before they swept them under the rug. we have evidence, the blackhawks admitted to knowing and not properly investigating and addressing the matter- THAT is what they got in trouble for

[@MrZachtheKingsfan]

@@geoff3103 I’m not the fucking league lol and you do know the Blackhawks did confirm it happened, right? You can find this info yourself.

[@donaldcampbell9483]

lol a Fanduel ad after the clip😂

[@NRTHKR]

The hypocrisy of this comment section is insane. The NHL adversities drinking every single commercial break, that doesn't mean its okay for a player to drink before a game or drink before getting in a car, rules and laws still apply.

[@JoeMazzullaaa]

funniest part is if players were allowed to do this these same fans would be crying thats its unfair to the salary cap

[@UncleAnaesthesia]

_(laughs in 1980s enforcer)_

[@benoitrobitaille5235]

We are all hypocrites, do 1/10ths of what is tolerated in hockey on the streets you’d be in jail, rules and laws ? We are witness to hundreds if not thousands of fights, armed assaults, attempt to injure and who knows how many other broken laws per year, in fact in certain places not reporting it can be a crime as well, but its tolerated because its happening inside an ice rink.

[@JoeMazzullaaa]

@@AYJetsi think ease of access and profits have way more to do with it them ADS

[@JoeMazzullaaa]

@@AYJets"if there were less pink whitney ads, people would commit less crimes" guys its all ryan whitneys fault, so it IS on the players🤡😂

[@ronbosshogg]

A draftkings ad literally interrupted the middle of this video for me

[@mickstiles5010]

Thank you for obstaining from the odds mania

[@BigSilly997]

Thank you for your input on this situation. Do you think that after the suspension he will sign and 850,000 RFA contract? I am sure he will see a lot less money now.

[@meg3902]

Cool hat from a Habs fan to a Bruins fan.

[@Jimmy-Mc]

I think the issue with gambling penalties is how excessive they are. He misses half a season, while a player who deals out a concussion with a dirty hit might only get 1 game and a fine. The punishments always seemed to not make sense, and with all the gambling ads, it makes the NHL seem even more hypocritical than before.

[@shellysmith1037]

Not a fan of of gambling, all the ads, the problems. Even if addicts need to bet everyday and do their thing why does the nhl have to advertise it ad nauseum

[@steamr0ll]

The gambling adverts during hockey games really annoy me. It seems to be at odds (pun intended) with the whole "purity of the sport" thing that I grew up hearing about. But hey, it means cap increase right?

[@anthonypredko1880]

Enjoying the video and then a fanduel ad plays...

[@chrisguardiano6143]

Pinto isn't the only athlete that got suspended today for gambling related offenses as Newcastle United player & Italian international Sandro Tonali got a 10 month ban from his country's soccer federation. It should be pointed out that unlike Pinto, Tonali knowingly & intentionally bet on his own team's games (just like what happened with Pete Rose) when he was with AC Milan last season. This is going to cost him millions as he won't get paid by Newcastle during the suspension & might even end his career with the national team given how stacked Italy is when it comes to midfielders heading into next years European Championships.

[@ozzydo2314]

I didn't think they're allowed to appeal it. The NHL also said he didn't gable on NHL games

[@camero2596]

The gambling ads are very annoying!

[@GizmoBeach]

As Michael Scott said, how the turn tables. Pinto holds out, now he’s the one held out by his own hand.

[@Beartosser]

So, a league that has completely prostituted itself to gambling is now suspending a player for.....gambling. What else needs to be said.

[@csolivais1979]

Companies that make alcohol require its workers to be sober. Asking hockey players not to gable on hockey isn't that big of a stretch.

[@whtfsh765]

As I'm watching this video there's a FANDUEL ad in the upper right corner of the screen.

[@ianbaillie6378]

I hope Pinto is getting help for his Gambling related issues. Try to prevent him from becoming the next Evander Kane.

[@tacsat0117]

Wasn't their a player Kane i think when he was a Shark got suspended for gambling a while ago?

[@jonathanmills7994]

With everything that happened to the Lions they refer to the friendly bets between teammates as off-premise agreements

[@Herculesbenchpress]

This probably explains/clears up why the Pinto to Philly trade never really gained much steam after initial reports, if he was being investigated at the time. Comperable to the growing chatter of Hart's impending trade in the offseason and then fizzling into nothing.

[@LoneTurtle10]

NHL Rule book on making money from advertisers. 1.Advertise addictive products that can ruin lives

[@Timbo-yg9zj]

So it seems pinto was hearing the rumblings about the hammer coming down for a while. I think it's related to the recent news of his return home. He basically knew he wasn't gonna play. Senators monitoring the whole thing and maybe holding back on an offer as a result (not trading Joseph). Tbh I don't think many of us thought he'd be there before Christmas once he went home so his lengthy absence not really a shocker for fans

[@kerwinhynes5047]

Pinto should hire a private investigators to see if any of the league front office gambles on sports, as they too can influence games...say with lame suspensions. If any of them has wagered so much as a dollar on sports bets of any kind, they need to be fired or suspended without pay, for at least as long as Pinto is out, or even longer for the hypocrisy.

[@stewartanderson676]

Too much gambling advertising during games. Last time I checked, gambling is addictive and can destroy lives. This probably doesn't apply but it's super sleazy.

[@Wogger72]

41 games undisputed OBVIOUSLY he was OUT OF CONTROL!

[@matthewwears7610]

Well I agree NHL players should not be allowed to place bets on NHL games, then you shouldn’t allow gambling logos placed on the players helmet or jersey and you shouldn’t advertise gambling.

[@figgadeal3079]

I'm wondering if he bet on SPORTS Awards [either MVP type bets or Prop Betting]. Not actually games but specific props.

[@BoboMcBooboy]

I think this makes SO much sense why the sens havent signed pinto yet... They were waiting for the league to rule on this first clearly...

[@BoyNamedSue4]

The fact that neither the player or union is fighting it is pretty telling.

[@whysoserious8666]

As I listen to Fandual odds on the Red Wings pregame. Wait until they catch an official.

[@c0smicC0wb0y]

I don't have any problem with the NHL making a call, but it's damn hypocritical when they've got so much sports betting being advertised. Not to mention the slap on the wrist calls they give for dirty career ending hits on the ice. Just seems lop-sided.

[@constantinentakos2907]

Legit as soon as this video ended I got an ad for sports betting 😅

[@davidwhidden9337]

All news / investigation stories should be given a 3 day grace period. Things change. That said, Gambling is an awful addiction. Don't start, especially if you are young.

[@chadisnotachad]

If he didn't bet on NHL games, he shouldn't have been suspended unless it was something ridiculous, and I have no idea what that could even be.

[@captbloodbeard]

Word is that he used someone else's account to bet on NHL games.

[@blackrocks8413]

so?@@captbloodbeard

[@ronh2660]

It would be cool if a "cat tree" manufacturer sponsored your channel

[@alaskanyeti907]

I understand why sports leagues crack down on players/officals/ect gambling. I just find it so ironically hilarious that there seems to be at least one sportsbetting commercial per ad break

[@AproposOfWetSnow]

Does anybody have a link to the specific rules regarding gambling for NHL players. There is only one mention of gambling at Exhibit 14 of the collective bargaining agreement that says "Gambling on any NHL game is prohibited" and nothing more.

[@hamish_d]

4 games for an potentially career ending head hit, 41 games for breaching gambling policy - 10x the punishment.

[@csolivais1979]

Yea, well, until the players push for more severe punishments, it's not going to happen.

[@benchow8851]

Even tho Pinto is an RFA, he probably made a sports action bet on the Senators maybe by accident. It should be common sense that you shouldn't be allowed to make bets on teams that you have some influence on, because again, even tho Pinto doesn't have a contract, he can still do things within the organization that might affect the outcome such as disrupting his own teammates(if he chose to)...

[@danbeaudreau499]

Bettman has said that gambling on the NHL games would be a lifetime ban.

[@anthonyavila4027]

Why do you have a framed picture of Gary Bettman .

[@tchevrier]

It will be interesting to hear what he actually did, but this is what happens when you make a deal with the devil.

[@giantessmaria]

i wish they'd just leave sports gambling in Vegas.... why must this country look to create addicts out of everybody?!

[@SmurfRockRune]

Gambling is illegal in my state but I really wish I was allowed to gamble on sports. Nothing wrong with putting down $10 every few weeks, would be fun.

[@combsalex2361]

I look at it this way just because there beer at your store doesn't mean u can drink on job well if NHL has rules against gambling then u shouldn't gamble on sports as NHL player

[@bradfischer5226]

This is too bad, especially as a Sens fan. But rules are rules. My fingers are crossed that he was betting on Sens games to win. Means he has faith in our team. Lol

[@stanschmenge1965]

it doesn't matter what sport a pro athlete bets on, if they get in too deep, the bookies won't care what amount they owe. They're happier that a player is now under their influence to possibly determine the outcome of a game. That's what it was with Jordan, if the bookies wanted the Bulls to beat the spread, he'd be pouring in baskets to the last minute to make it happen. Or clank a bunch off the rim if the Bookies wanted the Bulls to lose.

[@Peksisarvinen]

All the gambling stuff aside, I think you should do adds. Not to live your life for you, but I think it would make a lot of sense. I'm sure there are smaller hockey companies out there who would love to give you some gear to test and talk about. And in your way too, not just spouting a bunch of marketing nonsense. I mean I try to do what I can to contribute to your success, but there's only so much to do. And donations during streams and a channel membership are all fine and dandy, but it just feels stupid to throw money at you, when you could be making a lot more money off of companies by just talking about some hockey gear. Utilize the power of consumerism. Personally, I'd love to hear your thoughts about hockey gear and whatnot, even if it's superficial. Hell, I'd love it even if it's just you rambling about hockey with a bunch of new sticks from the sponsor in the background. I'm sure your core audience is both smart and old enough that they would gladly watch some ads disguised as hockey gear reviews to help pay for another trip to Vegas or Disneyland for you and the fam, without throwing a hissy fit about you selling out. Just because you deserve it. Use the success you've earned with your hard work man. The audience isn't going anywhere.

[@davidfitzpatrick6535]

So for me the 40 game suspension reeks of semi illegal activity ie dog fighting. For those of u who don't remember around 2007 Michael Vick was caught and arrested on dog fighting charges and it ruined his NFL Career so I hope its not that but the heavy suspension suggests to me its something illegal.

[@JohnDoe-ff2fc]

The problem was likely discovered last year, thus not having signed a contract.

[@Mutation666]

Not all adds are like that but I am sure there are plenty that’s are

[@steph1433]

Definitely HG

[@FeelingPeculiar]

Tonight: Avs moneyline x Carolina over 6 x Lightning parlay

[@MrTheWanz]

They said he wasnt gambling on hockey games, so what on earth warranted a suspension for half a season if gambling is allowed and he wasnt gambling on hockey? I think thats why people are mad, it doesnt add up and as usual the nhl has zero transparancy

[@TheHockeyGuy]

The NHL was alerted by one of their partners that something was up. The NHLPA negotiated the 41 game suspension, feeling it could have been much worse. My guess it whatever happened was illegal and that's why they aren't giving us details.

[@rodchallis8031]

There is a House in New Orleans, they call the 'Rising Sun' .....

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

NHLPA could develop program to help players deal with betting issues? maybe even provide a way for players to bet legally and ethically?

[@midwesthuckkers4935]

What's the last day they can sign him? Is it after the suspension, or do they have to sign a suspended player? And considering their cap situation, would they trade a contributing player, to sign a suspended player?

[@captbloodbeard]

They can sign him anytime this season, there's not limit for group 2 RFAs.

[@Dratchev241]

my problem is, NHL says they can gamble if they want as long as it is not NHL games they bet on. And according to what I see Pinto didn't bet on NHL games So wtf is the problem? Was he "throwing" games last year? without them coming out and saying what he did now the rumors can run wild.

[@WaddickLawnCare]

He used someone else’s account to bet on nhl games

[@Dratchev241]

@@WaddickLawnCare confirmed? all i see is nobody saying why.

[@rontrabaroe4247]

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[@robertcoleman2748]

Wait so a seventeen leg parlay is a bad idea?