A Guide to Amphibious Weapons | UBR-100 Frogman, UBR-150 Sea Lion & UBR-300 Swordfish Review

With underwater combat becoming more of a common part of the Oshur experience, the amphibious weapon selection is becoming a more common pick. It begs the question, which weapon should be using? Is the UBR-100 Frogman, UBR-150 Sea Lion, or UBR-300 Swordfish the best pick for you? Let's talk! If you enjoyed the video backhand that like button! Feedback is always appreciated.
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[@C-Vite]

Unlike the Seeker, Daybreak did a really good job balancing these weapons among the rest of the weapons that are still relevant in the first place

[@CAMIKAZE78]

I do appreciate the conservative approach taken with these weapons, no denying that!

[@CunnyMuncher]

Honestly I've found the frogman to be absolutely fantastic, especially for LA/INF, these weapons are basically free carbine/AR's for those two classes and its splendid. The pistol is straight up overpowered tbh, vastly outperforms the legendary commissioner.

[@sladewilson7750]

from my exp in underwater fights with amphibious weapons. -Sea lion : works really well with 4x scope due to high dmg output.use compensator and forward grip bcz of recoil. i recommend it with light assault and try to avoid cqc fight with this. really good for attacking an under water base -Frogman: works really good in close to mid fights. use 1x scope ,compensator,and laser sight. try using it with a offensive medic build . works better when used to defend underwater base. -Swordfish; i didn't enjoyed it under water. though it really worked well with smg infiltrator build on land. use laser sight 1x and suppressor.

[@aravindkannoly2909]

One thing to think about with underwater fights is that people largely rely on their minimap find people. I try and counter that with suppressors

[@CrenVerdis]

a recommendation is the starfish, tho. It's similar to the underboss with a shot less in the cylinder and a bit on damage range but it's basically an underboss equipable with a suppressor

[@Decmk3]

Yeah this is something I’d like cami’s fantastic deconstruction for. The Starfish is a beautiful pistol. You lose a round and 5m max damage, but that reload is to fucking die for. No long reload. Always 2.5 second reload. It’s easily become my favourite pistol.

[@bruvaguren494]

starfish supremacy

[@noble_lemon]

Suppressor making this gun work only for stalker infils. Outside of 4-6 meters the gun is almost useless. And it will loose to comi and underboss in cqc duel.

[@pterodummy]

Starfish certainly is fun but feels like a pea shooter beyond 15m, but is highly effective in 5m. It doesn’t really hold a candle to the Commissioner or Underboss. (Not really a dig, both those pistols are S-tier sidearms; it just lives in the same eco-system.) So yeah, if you already have an underboss and a spare 1100 certs then it’s a quirky silenced variant of the CQC king.

[@hoodenmcburg]

The best part about all the amphibious weapons has got to be the beautiful, clean, open, and VERY usable iron sights

[@abhishekmohapatra6617]

I really love the firing sound and feel also, just feels smooth to use like the endeavour weapons, that I cant afford.

[@DoNotLookHerePlz]

I freaking love Sea Lion, and non-ironically use it on other classes without any water nearby. I just love how it feels and sounds

[@CAMIKAZE78]

Glad to hear you are enjoying it my friend!

[@Akrilloth]

While i generally don't use frogman or swordfish on my engineers or medics, these things are absolutely a joy to use on infils and especially heavies, where they are the class's only real choice for an adaptable rifle that's between the LMG and SMG. There is also the fact that the Sea Lion is very interesting to use with quad scope on light assault, as that 143 minimum damage lets it do some neat stuff at range. The stability of the frogman just makes it such a joy to use IMO, but there is also the fact that they just feel and look so damn good as well, probably some of the prettiest guns added to the game.

[@extremelyunfocusedman]

I'd argue that NS15 can be seen as being between lmg and smg

[@Akrilloth]

@@extremelyunfocusedman the hip fire is too mediocre on it, frogman with laser has basically carbine levels of hip fire, giving easy headshots at the up to 15 meter range, but you are right that it's basically more of a big mag assault rifle than lmg

[@IWannaBTheGuy]

Honestly, I only see these weapons as replacements for the SMGs that infils can use. The Frogman and Sea Lion act like "carbines" for infils since they lack access to weapons with midrange viability. Yeah, technically they have the same max damage ranges as the SMGs but having only one tier damage drop off means you won't just tickle enemies past 40m (or even 20m with silencers on the SMGs).

[@TooFewSecrets]

Yeah but they're just straight downgrades from the autoscout.

[@geryz7549]

Vandal or faction equivalents are your friend in that range.

[@noahloyd9176]

So, as a TR main, lemme drop my two cents in about these weapons, as someone who plays mostly VS or NC will probably not appreciate them as much as I do. Most TR weapons are both weak and difficult to use at any meaningful medium- to long-range engagement, outside of specifically marksman-themed weaponry such as the Arbalest and SABR. While using the Arbalest with Impact Ammo at sniper rifle range (and out-killing actual snipers), I came to appreciate the reliabilty of the improved minimum damage profile at extreme range AND superior control the Frogman and Sea Lion offer. Firstly, the Frogman; it's incredibly easy to use at even extreme ranges, requiring little trigger discipline to outperform any other fully automatic weapon the TR has access to. With a 4x scope, compensator, and forward grip, it's basically a laser pointer at long range, allowing it to mow down snipers or foes with battle rifles at extreme distances. Compared to any other option the TR has, I've found it to be the most reliable distance-covering fully automatic weapon in my arsenal, and it's similar enough to weapons like the NS-11 C and A that it's basically a carbine in the hands of an Infiltrator, and despite it being very easy to look at the stats and call it terrible, requiring ONE more bullet to make a kill at medium range isn't the end of the world, especially when it's this easy to make headshots. It's become my new go-to weapon on my TR infiltrator. The Sea Lion is another quirky beast, yes, but compared to the TR's other 167 damage profile carbine, it still performs more consistently in the hands of a Light Assault, again and most especially at long range. It takes a bit more trigger discipline, but the firepower cannot be underestimated. With this and the Frogman, I find I can now confidently engage any target at 70m+ knowing I can do more damage to him than he can to me. Ironically, I've even put this bad boy on my Heavy Assault, taken it up against a VS heavy with a juice, and still out-damaged him and killed him first. Compared to the wild unreliability of most TR weapons at even short range, spraying bullets all over the place, the Sea Lion can put your bullets right where you want reliably enough to make a headshot game practical at any range. Being able to outrange any opponent when it comes to sniping distance is icing on the cake, as only a one-shot headshot kill from a bolt action sniper rifle can kill you before you can kill the sniper. I can tell you that most players are clearly not anticipating the kind of damage this thing can dish out when they engage me, thinking they have the upper hand, only to find the tables quickly turned on them as they run for cover in vain. The Sea lion has become my new go-to weapon for my TR light assault, and, oddly, finds a frequent run in the hands of my heavy, too. The Swordfish is useless.

[@_eclipz_]

i have no idea when i started playing... but you have always been able to guide me lol. (prettysure it's about 9 years) Love your vids and your chill attitude. Cheers bud!

[@Cumfart_Inn]

It's a shame I don't see so much underwater fighting. It's some of my favorite gameplay in this game in a long time

[@abhishekmohapatra6617]

Ya after the speed update and weapons update underwater gameplay is enjoyable with sufficient people. Only if they could bring the seapost spawns a bit closer and nerf underwater Maxes. Presently it feels attacker sided.

[@SethanderWald]

Agreed! The underwater fights are awesome. Definitely need to do something about the spawns though. If we could at least place routers underwater, that would really help.

[@extremelyunfocusedman]

Great production quality as always! Only small error on Sea Lion tooltip, the fire rate stated is 652, which is a leftover from the frogman

[@greynand8466]

eh Sea Lion still has a niche as a full auto weapon with the highest minimum damage available to infil and LA with a still decent velocity, also 550RPM 167 damage has a faster headshot ttk at .218 seconds versus 750RPM 143 meta weapons at .24 seconds

[@CAMIKAZE78]

Here's the thing though, minimum damage is great for consistency of damage over extended ranges. This is true. However, if we look at a weapon like the Pulsar C - we have a weapon with a minimum damage of 125 @ 70m - which means that the Pulsar C is capable of achieving a 143 damage model result out until 44m. That's only a 16m deficit for the benefit of a more potent CQC payload, a better hipfire profile, more attachment options, the works. 60m in this game is a pretty solid distance for auto weapons, so much so to the point where we start getting to the arguments surrounding "effective" damage and whether or not you are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

[@aarongreem4142]

@@CAMIKAZE78 That is a fair point. I would probably say at worst, I agree with you in that the amphibious weapons are underpowered in comparison to nearly every other weapon. At best, they are at least available to all non-max classes and can sort of hold up to full auto medium range options outside of the water. If I am using any of the UBR weapons above water, I would be treating them as full auto scout rifles and stick to medium range as best as I can.

[@StrixyN]

Wow, the water puns in this video are deep.

[@CAMIKAZE78]

Always love to dip my toe in the water for the puns.

[@M_R.b]

I'm glad a youtuber like you is active , most of the stuff you do influences a lot of playstyles and helps a lot of people , it truly is a gift from God may God bless you

[@MrGpeirce]

the frogman is decent on an infiltrator above water. good accuracy when you have time to line up your shots

[@erayergi]

Great video as always Cami but the lack of underwater fight experience shows itself a bit: the problem with these weapons is not their stats but the lack of environments for them to excel, especially for the Swordfish, because there aren't enough obstacles and buildings underwater between the spawn rooms and the points, it's all open "field". Also i think the game needs amphibious carbines too to make the LA a bit more useful underwater. But considering the point we are at on this years' roadmap i think most of these problems will be solved, we just need to wait (and complain) a bit more :D

[@CAMIKAZE78]

I've definitely had a bit of time in the underwater fights, just used all the footage in previous videos and have since archived it :D But I take your point. I still hold the position that these weapons are simply not worth their pricetag for the rarity of how often you are actually going to be using them - at least in an environment as to where they are effective.

[@abhishekmohapatra6617]

@@CAMIKAZE78 exactly getting them for 1000 certs for those that didnt do the campaign is a waste.

[@normanlandstruck3985]

I got all 3 for free. The devs must have noticed something.

[@chettonex]

Sealion with supressor + infravision (or carapace if medic) + sensor shield (or the brand new implant for underwater fights) is just OP for underwater fights. Ofc play as medic. Compensator isnt as good as supressor under water as weapon recoil isnt a big deal and for the reasons i mention below. Trust me, we have been trying this setup and its insane. Remember this: underwater fights are infantry only with little verticality. If you are spotted or appear in minimap you are in a HUGE disadvantage and you will be flanked. Underwater has reduced sound effects and with this build you will be able to kill enemies one by one without their allies even noticing.

[@Feyyore]

I'll admit they are a little lackluster. However... They did add a new gameplay style to the infiltrator Now you can have your stealthy boi with some extra dakka that isnt an smg. xD

[@savirianwinter1656]

I just got the UBR-100 Frogman weapon today when I logged in. I never saw it before on my underwater weapons before. It simply said item unlocked and there it was.

[@revumbra]

The sealion used in by an Infiltrator isn't that bad. It does have decent damage and range. I am not saying it is superior to other options, but it isn't half bad getting the jump on someone with a few headshots.

[@illegalalienfromsalviaspac449]

I Feel like you brushed over the 143 min damage of the sea lion. The 577 rpm 167 carbines have a min damage of 125. It shoots faster than the acx 11 and has same min dmg . Pretty good gun honestly but the others are ehh

[@CAMIKAZE78]

As I have just discussed with someone above, let's take the Pulsar C as an example. The Pulsar C has a minimum damage and range of 125 @ 70m - that translates to an effective 7 shot kill (the minimum damage of the Sea Lion) out to 44m. So a 16m deficit. Looking at those ranges in the VR training room - sure, you "can" hit targets a little harder out at that range, but then you start getting into the argument of whether or not you are in an "effective" range at that point. Are you engaging in a way that can net you a win? Are you likely to come across weapons that are better in that range? It's all about picking your targets - and minimum damage range is nice to have, it doesn't always dictate the "effective" range of a weapon when compared against the rest of the arsenal.

[@Akrilloth]

@@CAMIKAZE78 Yeah, but you gloss over the fact you cannot put the Pulsar C (and its equivalents) on HA or Infils, where their decent hip-fire brings some massive advantages in many situations, especially if one does not like SMGs

[@CAMIKAZE78]

@@Akrilloth every faction also has hipfire capable LMGs that can be kitted out to have very competitive hipfire. So that issue can be sorted out real quickly as well.

[@Akrilloth]

@@CAMIKAZE78 Somewhat of course, but for an example the Orions or NS-15s 3.25 movement CoF doesn't hold a candle to the 2.5 on the Frogman, which only gets better if you slap the laser-sight on it. They may not be "high performers", but they are probably the most comfortable guns to use in the game in general for infils and HA's, the auto-scouts feel awful in comparison, with the exception of the Bar-A50 for the NSO

[@wildwavesairsoft]

Oh interesting I thought the frogman filled the gap in damage range somewhere between the ns11c and the 11a so I was running it on my la thinking it was better at range but kept finding myself outgunned good to know

[@noble_lemon]

Swordfish needs a 40 round ext magazine since it's more in smg role than carbine. Plus some of the guns needs the air accuracy carbine feature imo (Frogman is the best option).

[@Plooble985]

I'm going to have to disagree massively with the sentiment these weapons are useless on land. They are for lack of a better descriptor better auto scouts than what the auto scouts allow. The UBR-100 features a damage model identical to the SOAS-20 and all other auto scout rifles sans the NS. However, it comes with better hipfire and better magazine capacity by default making it better suited to more engagment ranges than the auto scouts where you will generally get caught out in cqc with your poor hipfire. The UBR-150 is a superb marksman rifle featuring a beautiful spray pattern and an ability to reach out and melt people at range that is extremely satisfying. I view this weapon similar to the SCAR-H from previous battlefields trading in rate of fire for straight damage and lending itself well to those who can pick heads by being able to melt enemies. The UBR-300 is a piece of junk and needs to be thrown into the oven to bake a bit longer, the idea makes sense the execution does not. my suggestion is a simple rate of fire buff up to 750 or maybe even 800 giving it a slow time to kill but not as slow.

[@Akrilloth]

Giving the Swordfish 750-800 RPM would make it really fun to use on infils and heavies, so i agree on that. They could also just give it 112 min damage tbh.

[@kobaltteal7139]

I love using them on medic and Heavy

[@abhishekmohapatra6617]

Well you didnt address perhaps the BIGGEST use case,Frogman and sealion are the only carbine-like or rifle-like weapons available to Infiltrators. These are the go to weapons for Infil medium range where smgs suck and battle rifles are tough to use.

[@CAMIKAZE78]

You have the automatic scout rifles that already do this job, to be honest. While the Sea Lion is the only 167 model that is automatic on the Infiltrator - it's still an incredibly niche use case. Hence why i didn't really feel the need to raise it.

[@abhishekmohapatra6617]

@@CAMIKAZE78 Ya fair enough these are very niche usages. I was just nitpicking the only on-land use I make of these weapons😂

[@ColboyMontana]

They're a good option for infils I think

[@Igor369]

Why does swordfish, the supposed cqc amphibious gun variant have longer TTK at 5 metres than the other two?...

[@sashamakeev7547]

1:29 except on infil they are better then the full auto option they had. Only Artemis may be actually the best

[@verdtre4573]

I got Frogman for free from an Oshur alert reward. Not sure if it has a place on Infiltrator, i like Artemis.

[@JPSavage84]

Maybe a mag size buff to the UBR-300?

[@LynxWatcher]

I just wish they added more underwater weapons. There's a lot of potential for those underwater fights, but when everyone is using the same stuff it just feels very limiting.

[@prism8278]

I'd love it if they gave the infiltrator a harpoon gun for underwater combat as a sniper replacement.

[@kitsune_bot1654]

The newton, in my opinon, is still the best weapon to use underwater

[@normanlandstruck3985]

Ocean bases are awesome for solo cappers. You cap and hide, they come and cap and leave, you cap, they cap, you cap. Everyone wins.

[@SN1PERx64]

Is not the UBR-100 still a free unlock for making bronze of Oshur directive? That's my recommendation if you have other cert needs. Also I have found the starfish my go to. A secondary that I have found still useful when underwater the few times I am, and has the highest damage per shot that can be silenced of any pistol. A useful weapon in/out of the water.

[@unrealkalel3130]

Just letting you know that the charity link is missing

[@CAMIKAZE78]

Fixed, thanks for the heads up my friend.

[@HAOSMIKE]

i like the design of the ubr-100 and the handling. It is not great, but so am i in this game :D nothing lost, nothing gained.

[@Akrilloth]

I adore the design and feel of the weapons, its especially nice if you want a departure from the vanu-pew-pew for a little while.

[@kinuy0024]

1:50 in...godly aim dude!!!!.....im interested in one thing tho...why no voice pack or crosshair on recursion?....or do you turn off the notifications?(voice pack).....you really no gimmicks huh?...respect....

[@aravindkannoly2909]

I personally love all of the weapons except for the swordfish. I auraxed the sea lion in the blink of an eye, and the frogman is just a solid all around weapon. The swordfish always seemed to take an extra bullet or two to kill which pissed me off

[@abhishekmohapatra6617]

The swordfish must be one of the shittiest wepons to ever grace auraxis, it just seems unviable at all ranges

[@antistream]

I been fighting underwater quite often on Cobalt and noticed that Sea Lion works best to me. And everyone else are running around with those so i assume we all share this feeling... Frogman is kind off ok but Swordfish is just meh... But its free after all so everything is fine. All three loosing CQC underwater fights to literally ANY of SMG in the game... So best setup for underwater fight is Sea Lion primary and SMG in secondary if you unlocked that perk... Amphibious pistol is just a joke - Underboss with terrible ranges and it looses to Underboss even underwater. Its funny but you can use that pistol on Stalker since he has no issues to reach enemy that close and for Stalker its just Underboss with equipable silencer attachment...

[@mikehorsley2835]

On Emerald last night there were a good number of underwater battles. The amphibious weapons seem to dominate, being able to pick people off at distance whether hiding in the scenery or especially before they even make it to the scenery. Well, except the starfish. That is just horrible.

[@Glinty2476]

I wish I can play in Connery or Emerald but my wifi is so unstable that I'm stuck with being in Soltech, the most chaotic side of Auraxis.

[@jessefoster572]

No pistol breakdown?

[@weasel1959]

IMO the only 1 of these worth using is the sea lion. i enjoy using it out of water.

[@joeyaube1087]

What about the Starfish pistol ?

[@spingebill8551]

From my experience it’s also good on land, especially with stalker infil due to it having a revolver damage model with a suppressor.

[@SethanderWald]

Considering the swordfish is technically the worst underwater weapon, it's actually been the most successful for me. It feels more accurate at range than the sea lion. Probably due to the lower recoil.

[@bangarangjack]

I somehow got the frogman for free? I guess they just gave it out to everyone for free now which is good I guess. Just logged on and it was in my weapon selection

[@evilguardian5408]

I always use underwater weapons on my engineer

[@boag]

Why did they increase the underwater range of standard weapons? it made the Amphibious weapons completely useless in both types of combat.

[@silverthorngoodtree5533]

Come to Emerald, we do underwater ALOT.!!

[@CAMIKAZE78]

You and I both know why I can't do that mate.

[@Slithy]

I don't remember how, but i got a frogman for free. Maybe it was some other promocode?

[@SuaBitSiyeonsLip]

I use starfish on land. I'm a rebel.

[@silverthorngoodtree5533]

You should have shown how good they are underwater, not just above water.

[@CAMIKAZE78]

Once again, if I had the luxury of delaying this video indefinitely until I got said fights, that would have been great to do. Not how it works sadly.

[@HelminthCombos]

Does a review of underwater guns doesn't show any underwater gunplay.

[@AokiZeto]

1:20 ok lets be real, if a weapon is useless 90% of the time its not worth it, just avoid goin into water as much as u can, same goes for wheeles and track vehicule anyway. i maintain water is the worst thing they add in the game for how usless it is and tedious it is to fix in a game that need somme serious overhaul all across the gameplay

[@marthvader14]

Why would anyone use these? They have to have the worst ttk in the game

[@ch3ster440]

WHY DID DAYBREAK GIVE INFILTRATORS CARBINES IM SO TIRED OFF IT

[@csakip]

Quote unquote.

[@NotMirrors]

0 view gaaaaang

[@Glinty2476]

haha yes 0 view gang.