A Halo Infinite Retrospective: What went wrong!?

[@Tonyperkis35]

Huge Halo fan of the first trilogy, microsoft and 343 are both equally liable for how far Halo has fallen.

[@thebeyblader217]

THIS, but even more disappointing is how far bungie has fallen since splitting off on their own. They have gotten to the point that all big franchises do where there is basically no one from the teams that made the games we love are left. Instead they are replaced with new devs that cost much much less than devs who made some of the greatest video games of their time

[@Eville_Ace]

I played Master Chief Collection campaigns split screen coop with my son. When I told him split screen coop was cancelled for Infinite, the look on his face made me want to burn everything Halo

[@SuperMaxxii]

Have you guys found a way to play together?

[@Eville_Ace]

@@SuperMaxxii We haven't. Honestly Infinite is a big pile of shit to me and my son's content going through MCC campaigns at different difficulties and different skulls on. Perfectly fine with me.

[@SuperMaxxii]

@@Eville_Ace that's fair brother!

[@Mojavekight17]

Lack of vision

[@reygonzalez4719]

It's obvious that 343 is the problem with Halo. It is amazing that Microsoft still hasn't given them the ax.

[@ppsarrakis]

They prob can't find replacement... Seems like gaming industry is capped out from talent that can slave it's life for dreams

[@hrthrhs]

Halo 4 and 5 still sold extremely well. These decisions are made in a boardroom, not with the fans in mind. From a momentary perspective, it makes sense why Microsoft has kept 343. Not sure what revenue Infinite has or has not grained though so maybe things will change.

[@ThisGameizBrokn]

The gaming industry needs to pull their heads out of their asses and learn that you can not make a live service game out of every franchise. It doesn't work with every game and almost all of the current LSGs are being canceled or about to be because of dying numbers.

[@akmal94ibrahim]

Hold up. They scrapped couch co-op because they needed more manpower to develop the live service aspect of the game and THIS was the result? Only 2 seasons with barely any content. How many people were originally in the couch co-op department? One intern?

[@tobsmonster2]

Every piece of 343 PR is smoke and mirrors. The engine is bad and that is the reason for 98% of delays/cancellations/unnecessary changes. People still believe they turned off friendly collision to prevent griefing, when till this day collision with enemies is buggy enough for the feature to be labelled "experimental". Subpar games and nebulous misinformation is the 343 way.

[@tanodz7635]

@@tobsmonster2 Wanna know something funny? The Slipspace Engine was presented as something entirely different, made from scratch for the sole purpose of this game. In reality it's just a Matryoshka doll. A modified version of Halo 5 engine, which is a modified Halo 4, which is modified Halo Reach, and so on, so on until Halo:CE.

[@MadClowdz]

COD to 343: "Thank you."

[@Nolasco.]

The most disappointing thing for me personally was that the whole game wasn't on disc, that broke my heart 😭 Thanks for the video 👍

[@mitchconner2021]

And people expect and wanted 343 to make Halo 3 anniversary.. I don't want 343 to touch Halo ever again

[@tommyservo9660]

GJ Maxxii

[@SuperMaxxii]

Thanks Tommy!

[@thatoneguy8146]

6:39 I agree with this completely btw give halo to some one else

[@mudbugmasterc8944]

Halo Still hurts so bad. Been playing since 2001. Such a disservice to Halo and the fans.

[@I_am_ENSanity]

343 has done nothing but deliver disappointment after disappointment. The studio needs to be dissolved and Halo needs to be given to one like ID.

[@notrenbanney2450]

It's such a shame because the bones of Halo infinite are so good like the feel of the movement in combat is probably my favorite personally in the series so it's just a shame that management has been so bad

[@SuperMaxxii]

It is so fun, but does that fun outweigh of it's flaws? do single one off good game mechanics help you ignore a bad game?

[@SuperDecimator]

But it's still WAY better than the Paramount show :P

[@MarkVincent-ns9ut]

watching this to supply me a deficiency of Del

[@mobilenation1104]

everyone love halo as the halo fans.

[@TheCreepypro]

everything, everything went wrong, great video!

[@imgrim391]

Yea, pretty sad; prioritizing monetization instead of actually making the game good. Reminds me of rockstar with red dead online, that shit was straight up abandoned

[@Collin7713]

This game made me sad..... it felt good, just there was no substance. They put too much time into microtransactions instead of the game itself. The thing I hated most was multiplayer progression, the game forced you to play specific game modes and push you to do stupid challenges to progress. You were not allowed to progress playing the game modes/style that you wanted to. It felt like the game was trying to micromanage your playtime and it felt bad.

[@gruntzone3605]

I have a friend that bugs me about trying to play this game and I give the same answer everytime. This is not my Halo. I will not play it. Lets go back and play Halo MCC. And we're currently going after some achievements in MCC and that's a buggy mess as well. But at least we have the good Halos to go through

[@SuperMaxxii]

Smart man "we still has LASO to complete"

[@jaywerner8415]

At this point, if a game _EVER_ says it has a "ten year plan" or "is the next 10 years", DON"T! BUY! IT! Because its just going to be a disappointment.

[@akmal94ibrahim]

I was already sceptical when Bungie said it about Destiny. That was the first time I heard about a "10 year plan" and all I could think was I should just buy it 5 to 10 years later then when it has most of its content and if it has proven to be a good game.

[@jaywerner8415]

@@akmal94ibrahim Its even worse with Destiny, they have to VAULT content to make room for NEW content. But yeah, seems the "10 year plan" is yet another CURSED term made by the marketing department, Anthem, Halo, Destiny. At least one can say Halo and Destiny are fun to play, even if it gets dull after a while.

[@Juel92]

I think Microsoft probably put the wrong people in charge of 343 and that's why the studio has been getting worse since basically their first Halo game. I don't think it's a coincidence that basically all of MSofts exclusive franchises died or lost relevance because at some point MSoft stopped focusing on good games and more on trends. I saw the change first back in like 2010 when they had BlOps for their E3 headliner instead of an exclusive.

[@tanodz7635]

The whole studio is the product of Microsoft's mistakes. They tried to bite off more than they could chew. They tried to expand on Kinect's success while disregarding the franchises that built the tower they were sitting on. And Halo was doing exactly what Microsoft did to it. It was trying to expand the fanbase and appeal to COD players, which not only failed, but managed to lose the core identity it had that was liked by Halo fans in the first place. From making Frank O'Connor, who was community manager at Bungie, the Franchise leader, to making studio that consisted solely of people who hated everything that was Halo. This studio is a child with cancer, born by Mother who neglected her duties, smoked and drinked. There is no potential way for this studio to make a comeback. Better to just let it die, and make a new one, and this time, doing what you are supposed to do.

[@DeathMetalThrasher]

Great video Del

[@DerdOn0ner]

the open world is a joke. no biomes, same three mission on repeat. also a lot of the game's problems stem from the shitty slipspace engine, no wonder it got abandoned^^

[@AFpaleoCon]

The fact you’re complaint about how long the seasons are and how bad they are belies you ignorance of the true problem. The problem IS THAT ITS A LIVE SERVICE AT ALL.

[@SuperMaxxii]

I wish my life wasn't Live Service...

[@DovahVokuna]

Well no Halo fan here. I have to say. The game was great at launch. I loved it. Keeping invested in the game was the problem for me. So after 2 months and was done. Campaign and multiplayer was solit. Gameplay wise I mean. Many people loved it in the beginning. Again content,, that was the problem. So i don’t agree that the launch was a disaster. Launch was great. It became a disaster after.

[@kmdreacts]

Damn good video, my dude 👍🏿 Disappointed isn't even the word I use anymore for how I feel. That roadmap for Halo 5, as terrible as the campaign was, I had some good fun on multiplayer. Especially warzone arena. Halo Infinite felt like being consumed by flood spores. I began boycotting Halo Infinite a day after season 2 released (something I thought I'd Never do in the last 22yrs). Just the fact that they wanted me to pay for Another battlepass rather than for free as a gesture of goodwill for the lack of Any content and ridiculous progression was enough to call it quits... Haven't reinstalled since. Only a huge campaign dlc and Firefight would get me back into the game (which Definitely isn't coming any time soon). Ten year plan.... Sgt Johnson must be rolling in his grave, and lord knows what Lord Hood is up to nowadays.

[@Juel92]

Sisyphean co-op lol.

[@blahg8]

But there is a customs browser? It's literally in the game? Just pick a server and load in?

[@thatoneguy8146]

I swear the higher ups were just money laundering the money Microsoft was giving them when making this game I mean 6 years, cheap short term contractors and 500 mil and they all jumped ship right after the game launched. I don’t know about that chief

[@AJROTHII]

Halo infinite is ironically the most limited halo game out of them all.

[@battleboo4u]

Miss you man😢

[@ARecklessNinja]

Another great video bro! Well done!!!

[@qashmonie]

Quality Halo content :)

[@Kaimerah]

Outside of all the issues the sbmm and core sandbox is super SUPER geared towards competitive. A lot of the good ol fun of the old halo mp is just kinda scrubbed away

[@GoalieOfUnholy]

Those consecutive players numbers are Steam only. But this game is published by Xbox Game Studios. I like to think that most people would actually purchase and play games from the actual publisher, who supports the developers. Meaning a majority of players are probably downloading and playing from the Microsoft Store, not Steam. At least, they should be..

[@ronathenjjohnson8346]

I have yet to figure out an actual reason for this. But in my opinion, there is another entity above Microsoft . Whether it is BlackRock or something else... I don't know. But regardless, it seems the goal from the start has been to destroy this franchise. There is no way that this sort of incompetence can continue to go on this long when there is this much money on the line profit wise, unless someone else is throwing around tons of money for some sort of "agenda". Of which I don't know or understand or why it would have anything to do with Halo.

[@masterofreality1687]

Well said Mr. Delrith. I love you channel. 💪❤🎮 I feel like the Best Halo was Combat evolved. After that it went down hill. Microsoft keeps dropping the ball and tons of gamers don't trust them anymore. Microsoft = Gamestop.

[@kleamat]

very good review like always del you're the best.

[@bobh9492]

halo finite aha

[@supraman221989]

Three strikes our out 343 needs to go

[@TPandaManT]

For the most part you guys seem to fairly assess the current state of the game, but I think it is a little too reductive to ask what the point of custom games/forge is without the ability to search/match-make them. In the current climate we have external ways of doing that, largely discord servers and the like, and the game would certainly be markedly worse if they just said custom games and forge would be "coming" in Season 3. Don't get me wrong, it needs the search needs to be there, and always should have been, etc etc. But it being there in the state that it is now isn't basically pointless as you (I think Godfoot said) more or less imply. But perhaps I'm reading too far into that. tl;dr Credit where it is due. Yes it is late, and no, that wouldn't change the host of other issues that the game has. Just a small criticism for you guys from someone who also hasn't played Halo in months and months.

[@343Films]

You're absolutely delusional if you think that even 5% of people playing Halo belong to any sort of "Halo custom games discord community."

[@sebastianbronowicki7073]

​@@343Films yeah, more people aren't even aware they exist than there are of those actually in them

[@EvanCops]

11:00 i had to rewind that. Why is he bragging about that. Basic feature 🤯 and thats coming from the most casual halo player in existence. Excellent video as always Del and Team 🤘

[@XShrike0]

I don't think I ever got onto the Halo hype train. I remember enjoying the first game. I hated the second game. I grew bored about half way through because I noticed that the game was mainly locking me in combat arenas. Once I noticed they stopped locking me in, I just sprinting through the maps. When I made it to the cut-scene where Master Chief said, "I'm finishing this." I got excited because I thought I was through the boring stuff. Then the credits rolled and I was pissed. I really don't remember the third game. I only got it because I had a group that wanted to play it. I did really like ODST though. I got ODST for the same reason. I got 4 and 5 for similar reasons. I only played those two if the group was playing it. Those two had a huge disadvantage though. I had two groups get me to play Destiny and Destiny 2. So by the time 4 and then 5 came around I was, and still am, completely burned out on how these game play. The floaty jumps, the damage sponges, the awful match making etc. I found the match making awful because my group had pretty bad skill disparity. The match making would match based on the skill of the best player. So we would get paired with teams that would just wipe the floor with us. About the only work around was Big Team Battle.

[@Nostromo2144]

Easy - it was always red vs blue...so they tried to shoehorn in green. Game over man, game over! ;) From my PC Master Race pov, it's all konsole krap. And the tv series couldn't have helped the cause... 🤣

[@romero1337]

Biggest issue is Microsoft's and 343's heavy reliance on contracting development to different companies. No standard vision and no understanding of what makes a Halo game work. The way this franchise is being treated is abysmal. Microsoft should have had the best and brightest talent working on their flagship game, the game that literally made Xbox. Get another studio that has in house talent to create a cohesive, well put together game and don't cheap out on the talent.

[@SuperMaxxii]

agreed

[@tanodz7635]

Don't forget about Contract system.

[@ricardocondinho5965]

An unbelievable fail of a project, from botched launch to current lack of content updates... as a playstation user this makes me sad, as sony only performs at top lvl when pressured by microsoft and this aint it chief

[@mobilenation1104]

halo need more upgrade unreal engine game.

[@Jdog47892]

Bruh there is a customs browser tf you on about

[@Jdog47892]

There's also a community playlist in matchmaking now

[@Jdog47892]

Also Firefight, infection, and other stuff is coming it was leaked.

[@tanodz7635]

@@Jdog47892 , that's not enough. And it's far too late. Quoting Chief:"But no Soldier should be honored for doing what is expected."

[@343Films]

​@@Jdog47892 So we're supposed to applaud a studio with hundreds of millions of dollars in funding for adding a staple gamemode over a year and a half late?

[@middaymeds]

Battlefield 2042 *was* one of the worst shooters ever made on launch, but it's changed completely and is a really good game now. Certainly better than Infinite.

[@damianolandi5003]

Halo is Halo. People are angry because ever since H4 it was evident that 343 was trying to shape it into COD. It doesn't work like that. If I want to play COD, I buy and play COD. Halo was something else entirely. It FELT competitive but it wasn't trying to be. It was trying to be FUN and ENJOIYABLE and, in doing do, it achieved greatness.

[@darknesssoul9999]

So sick and tired of open world games.

[@jonboymk1bridgemaryfront889]

I liked halo infinites campaign

[@lillpit09]

Also halo 5 everything was 🗑

[@alekpo2000]

all this games want to make fortnite level of money, and they kinda need to make that much to last and make content at the speed needed. this is just not as succesfull as they wanted to be and thus are dialing it down by alot... just stop making these kinda games and do regular single player games as before, all this money dumping cant be sustained in time

[@sellingacoerwa8318]

Wow. controversy about a video game, how unconventional.

[@SuperMaxxii]

Quiet stinky