A HISTORY - THE AMERICA'S CUP - 132 Years at New York Yacht Club, Until it Was Lost -Ep 13 Historsea

Join Historsea as we discuss the history of the America's Cup Yacht Race, how it started on the Isle of Wight for the Royal Yacht Squadron but was won by the Americans from Newport Rhode Island and the New York Yacht Club who kept the sailing trophy for 132 years through two world wars. We look at the early sailboats of America's cup and new technology that made the america's cup rules change time and again.

[@debbiekruzel7751]

We just watched this "part 1" about the Americas cup and you said "watch part 2".... Where is part 2 please?

[@VicusUtrecht]

Dude just dropped off.

[@julioerodriguez6097]

I met Dennis Conner once when I was living In Puerto Rico in the 80's. He was visiting all the yacht clubs in the Caribbean and joined us in an event in the San Juan Yacht Club. He shake my hand and everything. Very nice "down to earth" guy. One of the most memorable moments in my life! Thank you Tim for the historical insight!

[@JetlagJohnny]

Fantastic presentation !! Bravo Zulu!!! Looking forward to part 2 !

[@capnsalty0200]

Hi, can not wait for part II.

[@MudLogger]

Sitting back with a "pain killer" enjoying some Historsea. Thanks!

[@ReubenSchwartz-s8t]

I've been enjoying your Lady K Sailing channel for about a year and was so happy to hear about Historsea! Thanks so much for doing this.

[@dsquared_5]

Damn!!! A cliffhanger.

[@swoper2]

I thoroughly enjoyed that and am looking forward to part 2. I know just enough about it to be fascinated with the details.

[@jeffwaters5633]

Did you forget to make part two? or did you not use America or cup in the title?

[@JohnnoTime]

Thanks Tim for this! I have been following the Americas Cup since I was a toddler in Australia. I stayed up several nights watching the races for years until one glorious race... Can't wait for the next episode to re-live it!

[@Established1975]

Also, thank you for your content. I appreciate your channel(s)!

[@AEFisch]

Loved reliving the story. I was anchored at Bannister Wharf next to Ted Turner's (Tenacious) as he stayed on his boat while the cup went on. My small CT town of Rowayton also became Dennis Connors when he had to live on the east coast, so saw him frequently. We also recently lost Bruce Kirby, Laser designer and still had Laser #1 in his yard. Lots of history to cover. I second the Fastnet Race comment. Thanks!

[@seemoretoys5944]

I got to know Dennis Conner back in the 1990s. We met through his association with the Stars and Stripes charter catamaran in Key West, FL. Nice guy. He even sent me an autographed copy of his book "Come Back". Looking forward to your part 2.

[@charles.neuman18]

I really like this channel. Sometimes it's not the first one I watch when new episodes come out, because I might be caught up in some boat building or voyaging drama on another channel, but I always come back to check on this one and stay current. I find it really engaging. I know what happens next in this story, but I want to hear how you tell it. So.... part 2? I guess now there's drama, so I'll watch the next one right away. As for other topics... anything and everything: boats, technology, old stuff, recent stuff... So far it's been a great mix of topics. The most memorable so far has been the Erie Canal, and also Edmund Fitzgerald.

[@bradpeterson9325]

Another seasonable lesson from the good Professor HistorSea. Do consider perhaps also America’s second yacht club, the Southern Yacht Club; some spicy tales to tell about there.

[@DonaldGregg-xu1bp]

This is a very interesting channel. As the owner of a boat that will soon be 100 years old, I find all sailing history interesting. New topic- the early days of sailing for the common man and the roe of ‘The Rudder’ magazine in promoting that goal.

[@jonahgadoury6421]

I am looking over the water from Jamestown to Newport Rhode Island, and The New York Yacht Club right now. New channel to me, I like it. Thank you.

[@liamshanahan9643]

So much more rich history behind the americas cup than I realized. What a cool topic to deep dive. Can't wait for part 2. I'd also be interested in Fastnet, Sydney to Hobart, or circumnavigation/ocean crossing record chasing for future episodes.

[@scotteastman5852]

You are doing a great job. I just found this channel and I like it a lot.

[@AMASonlinemedia]

Luv the channel! I was into sail boat racing in the ‘70’s & ‘80’s then life kicked in and I lost track. Now in my 60’s I turn on youtube and come across America’s cup! Beam me up Scotty! What the hell happened to sailing! GP? Hydro foil racing insanity!

[@henrikerdland578]

Great story. Can't wait for part 2 😃

[@timmitchell8784]

Lovin this new Chanel. You have to cover the fastnet disaster race. Thanks for another great episode

[@pjt480]

Great story. I can not wait to hear the ending.

[@TrekRoadbiker]

Tim. Some of the naval battles during World War II in the south pacific were quite dramatic. Like Savo island, battle of the eastern Solomons or coral sea. Don’t know if you want to get into those, but they seem to work well on KZbin and you seem to do a pretty good job sorting through complicated subject matter .just an idea. Enjoy your videos .keep it up.

[@jameszammit3365]

Very up lifting thank you for the effort put in to making this brilliant Subject

[@charleslassiter6082]

exceedingly enlightening and captivating, thanks Tim totally love lady k sailing :)

[@aussietaipan8700]

Hi there Lady K, love this history channel. I was interested as a very young boy with Australia's first 12M, Gretal, she was a beautiful boat but a bit heavy but still won one race in heavy weather. My favorite was Gretel 2, a great design and much lighter and faster boat, she too won a race but the crew were not trained to win. This changed with Australia 2 where the boat was light and fast and the crew were well trained, it all had to come together and it did in 1983, I will never forget the last race. I would love to see a history gig on the 1998 Sydney to Hobart race on your channel.

[@jimmyboy2]

Well done 👏

[@stephenmeeks684]

I love your voice and presentation.

[@BoredSquirell]

Watching a video about America's cup while actually watching the current edition of the competition live. From the office window. Unfortunately I'm not a 19th century noble and I need a job.

[@billbergquist4722]

Excellent presentation!

[@bravofighter]

I love this channel. The Stars & Stripes is berthed at Hilton Head, right next to the lighthouse.

[@michellanthier9234]

Great video!

[@jakebaker162]

I would love to see something on the Edmund Fitzgerald. Love the channel as I enjoy almost all things history

[@speedster5900]

Great video 😀

[@jordansiqueido2101]

The evolution of the boats is a video on its own, because in the 1800"s they weren't considering someone like Dennis Conner coming along. That brings us to the evolution of the rules and how we go from America, to Conner's Cat, to the "Emerged Era" (Hopefully i coined that)

[@LittleManFlying]

I grew up in Newport during the pinnacle of 12-meter racing. In 1983, I was a young teen working my first proper job, selling T-shirts out of a cart made from an old rowboat at the corner of America's Cup Ave and Lower Thames Street. Australia II would come out of the water after each day of trials and go directly into the hanging skirts that concealed her lethal winged keel from view. I was there and remember clearly when word came out that, after 132 years, Newport had lost The Cup. It was an existential catastrophe for the entire town. I recall thinking that we were going to have to add an asterisk to the end of the name of the town. We were still reeling for the loss of the Atlantic Fleet less than ten years before, which also meant the end of my dad's active duty days as a naval officer. Now, it seemed like we were no longer "The City by the Sea," but just a city by the sea, and we certainly no longer had a very defensible claim to "Sailing Capital of the World." Fortunately, I eventually learned that life isn't a zero sum game and that Newport was always and would forever be all of those things, at least to me.

[@JetlagJohnny]

How about discussing the early history of seaplanes. The first Atlantic crossings, around the world flights, the Pan Am China Clippers, the anti sub warfare and convoy protection, the topic is full and rich with history! Full disclosure.. I’m a seaplane pilot… who loves sailing!! Thanks for all the hard work!!!

[@jordansiqueido2101]

Please check into the 1970 La Jenelle wreck. I can't wait 'till part two. This video gave me blue buoys 🤣 I'm not a saylor, but I'm obsessed with Dennis Conner. Please include press conference footage if possible. Dennis's Cat vs. Dogs coment is some Mohammed Ali Press conference gold! Please go all in on the AC story!! Four part even. You are a good host so it's easy to hang till the end. AC might be a four parter and I'm not a saylor. AC is just so rad

[@andrewpaterson5192]

Hi from NZ. Obviously AmCup is big deal here right now. I just gave a talk to the local University Scottish Interest Group on Thomas Lipton and the Americas Cup to try to link the stories of the early culture of "Yacht Clubs", Scottish immigration to NZ ( under sail ) and sailing culture in NZ through to NZs recent dominance. Thanks i enjoyed this. Look forward to your post AUS story.

[@briangross45]

Hi Tim. I know you are very busy and not sure when you may be able to get back to Historsea but I wonder if you might want to do a piece on the canals of the east coast. Specially the Cape Cod canal and the C&D canals. Just a thought.

[@donnalbackus606]

I love the yacht races 🎉😅😊

[@raymayoh]

Have a great summer🛥🚢🚤🐎🤠

[@jeremyfk]

Not really any interest in boating etc but love the channel. Really well explained history and added tidbits.

[@jordansiqueido2101]

In 1988 Dennis Conner won by eighteen minutes and fifteen seconds to go pubcrawll as a legend. WTF? Didn't the Other team understand the guaranteed outcome? Please cover AC in detail 👍

[@frankroccia8405]

Tim I'm waiting!

[@calglider13]

Thank you Sir for NOT using a computer, but instead, doing the voice commentary yourself.

[@billkline4077]

good stuff

[@1000750]

Aloha from Maui 🤙 Maybe look into the Hokule'a there is some historsea behind her.

[@scotteastman5852]

I would like an episode or two about how the Pacific Islanders were able to safely navigate such long distances.

[@abent74]

Very cool, I’d like to hear a podcast about the natural history of naval warfare. By natural I mean history mean the impact of Naval warfare on the worlds forest and ecology as a whole.

[@majimasa]

Great

[@paulkopp3634]

Interesting stuff thank you sir. By the way it was the great exhibition. Followed by the French version the great exposition.

[@jeanetteansell5514]

Hi Tim, I've just discovered your Channel and am enjoying your videos & this one about the Americas Cup. Being a NZr I am very aware of it as we won it & have defended it a few times. In your video you mention the Victorian Great Exhibition in England but you keep calling it the Great Expedition instead. Clearly you have a mind to adventure. The Great Exhibition was designed to exhibit the most modern inventions of the day, especially Britain's. Thanks for your research. 😊

[@karenscongdon6663]

Nice job! How about something on rogue waves?

[@jordansiqueido2101]

The Kiwis vs. Oracle is a video of its own. San Francisco ended up as a "dream" venue. Expand on how the venue is determined because the venue is a player. Why else would Conner come with San Diego. His cat doesn't have a gas lamp.. A Ooo Historsea is the channel to cover All things AC for "normies" Keep up the good work

[@moseswhite4147]

Tim do you have any details on Sir Issac Lipton roll in the America's cup.

[@KX6D]

Can't find Part II.

[@bopapa_1979]

Would LOVE a video on Native American canoes and other boats.

[@jordansiqueido2101]

In 2004, 2024 didn't happen yet😂 That is part three and four videos of AC history right there. I have been interested in AC since 2010, and 2019 didn't even happen yet ;) Please go ALL out on your AC series. All in favor of a four part, say aye aye ✋✋

[@glennfordyce8540]

Hello. I'd like to see a video on the Australian raid on Japanese shipping in Singapore during WWII using a fishing boat called Krait. Regards, Glenn Fordyce

[@davidlambert3090]

Hey Tim. Devoted follower, you are great sailor and film maker. Added my two cents about the utube episode about 40 best sailing film makers - you're always top over my keel. For historsea, how about one on Thor (sp) Hyderdahl reed boat across the Pacific I think sometime in the 60's. Keep up the good work, look forward to every episode. Patreon Sailor Dave

[@jsnleary]

Awesome subject; I would like to see a story about the canal system that went through Ohio (Portage Path?)

[@Mr.Cyberdude]

Interesting that the only boat named in the painting at 1:25 was Sandy-Hook. That area seems a long way from the costal port of New Haven to Newport Rhode Island. What's the historical significance.

[@paulp7721]

Check out the history of the Congressional Cup. The first true match racing regatta with on the water judging.

[@LittleManFlying]

When America cut inside of Nab Tower Light, it was something like James Kirk's handling of the Kobayashi Maru. Trekkies still debate whether he cheated or merely changed the conditions of the test to his own advantage. Both speak to the myth of American exceptionalism, but one actually happened.

[@jameshannon2980]

Love the 12 meter and America Cup glass of boats, I really believe these new "flying boats" have taken the beauty and crew work away from the Cup. I still follow the America's Cup but long for the old days of real sailing.

[@bobcornwell403]

America's victory in that first race had a huge effect on yacht design. Up until that race, a rather full bow and much gentler quarter buttocks were seen as the fastest. AMERICA was designed with the opposite. She had a much more gentle taper of the bow, which required fuller lines aft. If you look at most sailboats today you'll see that they follow AMERICA'S model.

[@keving3639]

Maybe the HMAS SYDNEY (my home town) & the sneaky way it was lost with all hands

[@krischambers9021]

I can't find part 2.?

[@rickwiles8835]

Loved the video in fact I loved all your videos. Thanks for stepping up to the plate, 70% of the planet is covered in water yet 99% of its history entails thing that happen on land it's about time someone told the history of what happened on the majority , of the world.. Things I'd like to see: History of the Barbary Wars, 1801-1805 and 1815-1816 or why the USA formed a Navy.. The only thing most American hear about those wars is a small part of the US Marine Corps Hymn, "From the Halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli" and most have no clue where Tripoli is or why it was important. British POW ships of the American Revolution AKA the HMS Jersey. From about 1776 to about 1783, over 10,000 American prisoners of war died from neglect locked in the holds of the HMS Jersey and other such vessels. Their corpses were often tossed overboard but sometimes were buried in shallow graves along the eroding shoreline. Many of the remains became exposed or were washed up and recovered by local residents over the years and later interred nearby in the Prison Ship Martyrs' Monument at Fort Greene Park, Brooklyn, NY.

[@mikeh720]

Throw in a Whomper and an attractive cast and you might just have a movie on your hands!

[@jeroenvanrixel7980]

I would like to see a tube on Vito Dumas the first to sail solo around the world

[@JetlagJohnny]

Sir Thomas Lipton.. (the tea guy) came within one race of winning the cup.

[@sebseyeview]

Hey Tim, my name is Sebastien. I've been a subscriber of Historsea for a while now and recently wrote a book titled "The Deep History of Seafaring People." If you're interested, I'd love to send you a copy for review!

[@Established1975]

I would love to see a more accessible race with budget maximums and no donations.

[@SchoonerDesire]

Head over to your local yacht club next Thursday, and introduce yourself as "Volunteer Crew"

[@Established1975]

@@SchoonerDesire I love this idea also. What I'm suggesting is a layperson race. I want the financial commitment to come from a crew of pirates and not a crew of trust fund or corporate dollars. The race has to hurt.

[@scottkrebs586]

@@Established1975 Your local yacht / sailing club will have races every certain night of the week (ours was Wednesday) and will give you exactly what you asked for. Additionally, boats are always looking for extra hands, so you can volunteer as crew and watch the race first hand. Understand you'll have to actually do some work and help sail the boat for the privilege of a front row seat, but nothing will sharpen your sailing skills better than club racing. Of course, this requires you to have access to a body of water where sailing occurs. It's not feasible to have a race with the number of applicants there would be to something like the America's Cup. That would need to be around the world, not around an island, and they have those too. Cheers!

[@vsstdtbs3705]

@@Established1975 Your local sail club down the road might be able to organise that.

[@Established1975]

@@scottkrebs586 Thank you! Keep an eye out for me.

[@brownnoise357]

For me, the big positive from Sailboat Racing is the testing of new Materials, but for me, as a Cruiser, the big negative the impact is having on the design of Cruising Sailboats, and the first really bad example of that was the 1979 Fastnet Race Tragedy, which has been echoed in later Racing Tragedies since. Sailboats with pretensions towards Cruising, but with far too much Bias towards Racing, continue to dog Cruisers with Stupidities such as TwinnRudders and Deep drafts, over lightweight Construction - Beneteau First Anyone ? and so on, Mainsheet Tracks in the Cockpit etc, and the enphasis on pushing things beyond 100% Stress Levels, so that really expensive stuff Breaks very frequently. That is not what Cruising is about. Fine for seriously wealthy people of course, to whom money is no object, and good luck to them, if that's their fun pastime. But those Fastnet Race Deaths, were like shoving Garlic in the face of a Vampire to me anyway. Does it mean I cant achieve a decent speed average over 24 hours ? Nope. Does it mean someone's boat can do the same journey fastervthan mine ? Yep ! Should I and do I care either way ? It seems not. For me it is all about the hourney, rather than the destination, gettingbthere safely, and having a wonderful time while traveling, and while at Anchor. So best Wishes, Safe Travels, and as Tim says - Keep the Heavy Side Down, But Not Too Far Down. Bob in Wales. 👍⛵️✨️✨️✨️❤️

[@SchoonerDesire]

Hi !

[@dronevuzphotographyandvide3325]

The 1715 Spanish fleet shipwrecks off Florida’s East Coast.

[@bravofighter]

The “Can-Do” of Salem Massachusetts, as told by Mike aka Shallnotbeinfringed here on youtube. If you could, our mutual friend Lambdog76 has his contact info. What an amazing story!!!!

[@UncleJoeLITE]

Even as a young Australian Moth racer, I found the rich man's America's Cup boring as, until we won the damned thing. "Any boss who sacks someone for not coming in tomorrow is a bum!" said our beer drinking PM Bob Hawke after we showed the keel dockside. Now it is just another "Rolex" Saudi-styled & sponsored event. It could've been great after 1983.

[@ericbeattie761]

Cool😂

[@redfiveent]

I have the same question as the previous commenter - where is part 2. You said “next week” but that was 9 months ago. This is a great video but you’re leaving us hanging just as the story is getting good! What happened? I hope you’re okay.

[@harrisonhine243]

I’m disappointed you didn’t mention the huge sloops like Reliance in the early 1900’s nor did you show what the pre war J boats were like compared to the 12 meters. Innovative ideas has always been a big part of the AC and also conflict and lawsuits. You passed that up too.

[@JetlagJohnny]

Yeah.. but I guess only so much can be told in 15 minutes..

[@johnrathbun2943]

When we lost it, was it called the world's cup?

[@julianrodolfo]

Hi.

[@UncleJoeLITE]

Tim, I notice you've given up on this channel for now.

[@TheodoreEnrique]

Longer at sea courses need or race in bath tubs!

[@jordansiqueido2101]

Don't understand why you redacted my initial comment. Hope you can use the ipQ's

[@MrSomethingElse]

ah yes, it's good to be a Kiwi

[@simonestagnitta101]

“Like NASCAR for cars” - I stopped the video

[@redgozza]

Nascar for cars? Really?

[@joeypierantonis7576]

NASCAR for cars? As much as that phrase doesn't make sense, it is totally not like NASCAR, in any way except it is a race that Amerians sometimes participate.

[@VicusUtrecht]

Wth happened to this dude?

[@drhive1645]

Great topic, Tim. Can't wait for the second part. One point, though. I think you'll find it's the Great Exhibition, rather than the great expedition (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Exhibition).

[@CPTCleoTorris]

Left a lot out. This could be a ten part series :)