A lesson for DITRH on airline routes.

[@Porkey_Minch]

I love how much use you're getting out of the "flat disc transforming into a sphere" animation. What I don't love is how some people can see it and think "nah, that's wrong because it just is"

[@jormungandr9251]

@UCWgUb-_hunVLB1wFzHPHv0Q I think you’re actually a troll, but I’ll respond as if you’re sincere because it’s an important distinction to make. When Jos makes an animation, he’s trying to illustrate an otherwise-difficult-to-visualize real-world phenomenon in simple visual terms. In this case, we intuit that flight paths should be straight, which they are when drawn on a globe, but inexplicably aren’t when drawn on a flat plane. Thus flight paths only make economic sense on a globe. Since money talks, airlines aren’t going to fly far out of their way just to pretend the Earth is a globe; the Earth really is a globe and flight paths are actually the shortest routes possible.

[@requiem4adream87]

nice. If only flat earthers understood 3 dimensions

[@GrahamStw]

I genuinely think some flat earthers suffer from a sort of 3D-dyslexia. They don’t think in 3D as others do. Hence their acceptance of flerspective and other nonsense.

[@MeFreeBee]

They struggle with 2D

[@JesseKozlowski]

No wonder they repeat and chant no one has ever measured the earth's curvature. None of them have, so when they keep banning people like you and me who have measured the earth's curvature, they're only left with their own choir in their own echo chamber declaring no one has measured the earth's curvature. LOL !

[@ReinoGoo]

No one flat earther has ever measured the earths curvature.

[@JesseKozlowski]

@@ReinoGoo , no flatearther has ever measured anything including their imagined flatness.

[@dual1ty999]

The claim is that no one has measured it through non-optical means, but you conveniently forget about the "through non-optical means" part, because you're a cult lunatic.

[@JesseKozlowski]

@@dual1ty999 , do surveying instruments work on flatearth? Are all the triangulation observations made to produce all the topographic maps wrong, or are they ok and the maps too? Does your flatearth cult make their own flatearth maps using their own flatearth cult instruments?

[@dual1ty999]

@@JesseKozlowski When is the globe cult going to measure the supposed curvature through non-optical means, I wonder? Any time soon? Or will I be waiting forever?

[@misterocain]

There is an even more basic problem with FE that doesn't even involve distances. If you want to travel due East to a destination, on a Globe your compass remains due East for your journey but on a flat Earth, as soon as you move towards your destination, your compass bearing would move from due East (because you are on a different tangent). The observable reality is the former i.e. globe because on a globe, due East follows a straight line (line of latitude) but on a Flat Earth, to maintain a bearing of due East you are following a curve but your destination is no longer due East.. Apart from a N-S bearing i just don't see how compasses can possibly work on an FE.

[@tjjones621]

That is pretty basic alright. But, there is one even more basic.... All flatearthers are holding a map of Earth in their hand. Every single one of them.

[@ReinoGoo]

The only straight latitude is the equator. All other directions than east-west are rhumb lines (or loxodromes).

[@misterocain]

@@ReinoGoo To clarify, on a globe, all lines of latitude are straight lines when from the perspective of an observer located on a specific latitude. The Equator is merely the one with the greatest diameter. On a Flat Earth all lines of latitude would be circular including the Equator. The Equator however does kill FE dead when taking into consideration the track of the Sun at Equinox i.e. to an observer on the Equator, it rises due East and maintains a straight line that heads due West being directly overhead at Noon. On an FE the Sun would be moving either to left or right of an observer on the Equator. Again observable reality is an FE killer.

[@ReinoGoo]

@@misterocain Yes, the parallels are straight perpendicular to the earth axis, just as the equator. And the celestial equator is straight in the same direction, on all latitudes. On the equator it is plumb and the axis is level, on the poles it is level and the axis is plumb. Would be fun to see that on an animation.

[@ReinoGoo]

@@misterocain The startrail of the sun is a straight line at the equinoxes, curves to the north north of the equator and curves to the south south of the equator. The horizon rotating at an angle makes the orbit over the horizon shorter and more curved in the winter and longer and less curved in the summer.

[@heliocentricprophet4457]

Good work except that DITRH and his followers will never accept it (as a conman he has to reject it or he won't have any followers left).

[@beetlejuice4357]

Notice no one has ever ever gone around the Earth north and south. This is because it is impossible on a flat earth.

[@josleys]

Is it fun lying in silly comments?

[@beetlejuice4357]

@@josleys Prove me wrong.

[@josleys]

@@beetlejuice4357 Just look it up, ff sake, you idiot!

[@mmixlinus]

Nice one. I just got back from commenting on DIRTH bag's recent monumentous nonsense about flight paths on the southern hemisphere not going over Antarctica. It's incredible how gullible his followers are :(

[@josleys]

That is what triggered this video, but I cannot comment there as I am banned from DITRH's clown show.

[@requiem4adream87]

@@josleys yeah DITRH has to censor otherwise no one would follow him

[@tjjones621]

@@josleys FE rule no. 1- do your own research FE rule no. 2- silence the opposition FE rule no. 3- NEVER... EVER... under any circumstances... look at the map of Earth you hold in your hand!

[@equinoxshadow7190]

Most likely DIRTH cultist con man will block you or moderate your comment and not even let it get through. It just wants an echo chamber.

[@vincentb9827]

Après tant de démos lumineuses, il est trop tard pour espérer la moindre étincelle d'intelligence chez les neuneus... Merci quand même JOS !

[@giacomore]

Jos, you are a public treasure. Your animations spectacular, your approach as direct as can be, straight to the point in a completely conclusive and definitive way. You have a gift.

[@mittelwelle_531_khz]

Nice, but oh no! Some flerfs will give you a real hard time if you say great circles are straight. Meanwhile I'm always prepared to add: _"Great circles are straight in the same way a road can be called straight if you drive a car along it and it doesn't require you to turn the steering wheel, neither left nor right, though that road might still wind uphill and downhill."_

[@josleys]

The exact way to call them is "geodetics", but no flerfer knows what that is.

[@mittelwelle_531_khz]

@@josleys Are they called geodeTics or geodeSics ...? (just asking)

[@quinlan1977]

@@mittelwelle_531_khz It's called GeodeSics. GeodeTics is an aerospace compagny from San Diego.

[@josleys]

@@mittelwelle_531_khz My mistake: geodesics in English , geodäten in Deutsch , geodeten in Dutch

[@mittelwelle_531_khz]

@@josleys thanks ... and I agree flat Earthers will probably not understand what you mean, no matter how you spell that word 😁

[@jrnbuckachristensen6597]

Is it possible for a river to run uphill?

[@josleys]

NO.....and no river on our globe Earth does that.

[@beetlejuice4357]

Notice no one has ever gone around the Earth north and south. This is because it is impossible on a flat earth.

[@josleys]

@@beetlejuice4357 Liar!

[@beetlejuice4357]

@@josleys Prove me wrong.

[@josleys]

@@beetlejuice4357 Just look it up, and stop making a fool of yourself!

[@lucbourhis3142]

84 badges of honour! Your creation are both beautiful and instructive.

[@SamSalhi]

Another fantastic rendering Would you kindly email me the povray files for this one?

[@FromTheMountain]

Can we show somehow that there is no projection of the sphere onto 2D-space that preserves straight lines?

[@josleys]

Well, the "straight lines" on a sphere are great circles. (geodesics) These will never be projected as straight lines, except meridians in the AE projection.

[@Sableagle]

You can do an AE projection centred on the airport of your choice and get the flight routes to and from that airport as radial straight lines, and for any individual flight route you can centre an AE projection anywhere along its length and get the route as a straight line through the centre, but that only applies to the route or routes in question not to all the others, and the fact it can be done for _any_ airport and _and_ route suggests that the Earth is the same shape when viewed from _any_ direction, like a sphere.

[@hijtohema]

@@Sableagle You can create those AE maps here ns6t.net/azimuth/azimuth.html Pretty cool.

[@ReinoGoo]

Straight lines across the center will be the same, or much thicker near the edge.

[@josleys]

@@ReinoGoo "Thicker straight lines" ???

[@stargazer1295]

You would think flat earhers learned their lesson 6 years ago.

[@kbear8293]

or 6 centuries ago.

[@Luka23567]

🌍 has no roots in reality, now make sure to wear your diapers and remember to social distance for your and each other’s safety!

[@stargazer1295]

@@Luka23567 Yeah like Rob Skibba who just died from COVID? Go to a psychiatrist because you need help.

[@Luka23567]

@@stargazer1295 keep dreaming.

[@stargazer1295]

@@Luka23567 You too. Sweet dreams.

[@lorditsprobingtime6668]

I really like this one Joss. Any flatwit that can't see how this clears up a lot of their lies is VERY stupid. Great work here, as always.

[@fredbailey2076]

well i turned out to be a ball in the end now who would have thunk that ?

[@Wolfie6020]

What a fabulous demonstration. Thanks.

[@Wolfie6020]

@CrewPostor This channel is great.

[@GrahamStw]

Nicely done Jos 👍 Long haul flight routes within the Southern Hemisphere only make sense on a globe. They’d be well beyond the max range of the plane on a flat earth. And they would take far longer.

[@unclejeffthechad9459]

They wouldn't be beyond the max range because they don't exist at all, you're totaIIy brainIess aren't ya?

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 That is an obvious lie. How do you explain Flight QFA 64 from Johannesburg, South Africa to Sydney, Australia? How far is that on your fantasy flat Earth? How about Flight QFA 28 that travels west from Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia? On the flat Earth map, that route would take you over Northwest United States. Funny how the flight records show a much shorter route over the Southern Pacific. The Boeing 747 cannot carry enough fuel to fly that route if your map is correct. You have never measured one single distance on a flat Earth map, have you? Qantas: QFA 64 to Sydney flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA64/history/20190905/1720Z/FAOR/YSSY Qantas flight QFA28 from Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia. flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA28

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 Why did you run away with your tail tucked between your legs? 🐔🐣🐥🐤🐔

[@sineout9294]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 Quick exercise for you, Jeff: pause the video at the flat earth bit, say 15 seconds in, and compare the distance between New Zealand and the East coast of Australia with the distance across the continental United States. Now please explain how the flight time between San Francisco and New York is about twice that of Christchurch to Sydney. Or are you saying Chch-Syd flights don't exist?

[@tjjones621]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 LOOK EVERYONE! Dude has a map of Earth in the device he uses to comment! LOL

[@maerchenbuch]

Great that you're finally cleaning up this nonsense with flight routes on flat earth.

[@wirrwarr4518]

Donnerschlag noch mal!

[@maerchenbuch]

@@wirrwarr4518 Der Jos macht sich so viel Arbeit, da hat er etwas Lob doch verdient.

[@wirrwarr4518]

@@maerchenbuch Das hat er von mir auch schon bekommen. Die ganzen Views unter seiner Dimension Serie sind alle von mir. Bin nämlich zu blöde und muss mir das immer wieder anschauen.^^

[@YouToobeism]

Banned from "Daniel Pratts next deleted channel". Now that's funny. Daniel has made about as many channels as he has Pratt-fails. His channel is nothing more than his ruminations in front the bath mirror for the morning shave. It's all about self-medication.

[@Knowhere1224]

I want to say that you made this so simple that even a flatearther can get it, but we know that’s impossible. Maybe if you used construction paper and crayons? Your graphics are too fancy! Awesome job as usual!

[@johnM-Jr]

I just dont feel like im ona ball spinning faster than the speed of sound? Never did. You cant feel it, because it isnt.

[@josleys]

Oh dear Johnny, grow up!

[@drosophilamelanogaster4262]

John, what is the speed of the sun on your imaginary flat earth? Hint: it needs to be supersonic

[@johnM-Jr]

@@drosophilamelanogaster4262 the sun could be a projection of some type on the dome. Or it would be moving at supersonic. Roughly 1500 to 2000 mph.

[@drosophilamelanogaster4262]

@@johnM-Jr I know flers love to say it’s a projection in hope it would explain some of their nonsense. That is just stupid. Doesn’t explain anything, quite the contrary. You are about right when it comes to needed speed: June solstice about 1900 km/ h, Equinoxes about 2600 km/h and December Solstice about 3300 km/h! Do you understand why three numbers? What powers sun to move, and increase/decrease in speed and change direction all the time? Why don’t we see that in real life? So the local extremely hot sun goes supersonic speed just above our heads. Have you heard the sonic boom yet?

[@YouToobeism]

@john M, what a intellectually dishonest statement. When did you last fly in a commercial airliner that you felt, while enjoying the in-flight meal, that you were hurtling along at 520 miles per hour? You didn't, right? Because the plane, during the meal time, is flying at a constant speed there is no acceleration to "feel". Same with the Earth. It does not vary in its spin, so no acceleration is ever felt. See the point?

[@thebluesrockers]

How is it that Svalbard has two days a year where they experience two sunsets in the same day?

[@josleys]

What two days would that be? What the fok does this have to do with airline routes? What are you, a flerfer?

[@realistn9343]

What a nonsense, who told you that shit? Svalbard is located well north of polar circle and experience no sunrise between oct. 26 and feb. 16- Likewise the sun never set between apr. 20 to aug. 23. Strange for a flerfer to understand, right.

[@drosophilamelanogaster4262]

Why is it that people post idiotic comments and don’t delete them?

[@realistn9343]

@@drosophilamelanogaster4262 We cannot expect much from flerfers, they are like taking monkeys, repeating what their FE priests say.

[@YouToobeism]

@@drosophilamelanogaster4262, the average flerfer thinks those three dots to the right of their comment are nothing more than a few specs of their lunch dribbled onto their screen.

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

It is clear that "Uncle Jeff the Chad" is nothing but a troll. He only posts hit and run comments. He posted a lot of comments and then ignored every reply that he received. Classic troll behavior.

[@tjjones621]

He's great for getting views and subs!

[@fuchur9821]

Greetings from Germany. Beautiful video! But the fleatearther will not understand and say that he is right because he is right. You can not just come around the corner with facts ;).

[@AtheistRex]

You use the word "lesson" like he can be educated.

[@sthurston2]

Always great to see again. The music makes me nostalgic for the old Biblical epics.

[@unclejeffthechad9459]

God is real and Earth is FLAT

[@sthurston2]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 Flat Earth requires that the Moon be non-physical and its appearance be a complete lie. Similarly for the Sun and stars and behaviour of light. Basically GOD has to be the first and greatest LIAR of all. I find that conclusion obnoxious and blasphemous. God is not my adversary. Thus the Earth is not flat.

[@requiem4adream87]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 Nothing you say is true. Run along little boy run along

[@robertgreenfield9051]

What software was used to make this?

[@josleys]

All done in Povray.

[@FrenchCrow]

A brilliant lesson for DITRH, in less than one minute. Educating him a bit would take hours of such videos though ;-)

[@unclejeffthechad9459]

Educated GIobeheads (Like YOU) would take years...

[@adventureswithdogs2251]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 And there's the difference- we who know the Earth is a globe have had years of education! Something which you clearly have not.

[@FrenchCrow]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 It is sad that people like you who have no education and no critical thinking are so skeptical of basic scientific knowledge. The globe model makes perfect sense.

[@tjjones621]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 LOOK EVERYONE! Dude has a map of Earth in the device he uses to comment! LOL

[@edivaldopinheiro2904]

No modelo da Terra Plana, os continentes e os países se distorcem muito, o que torna impossível ter um mapa em escala pena que muitos terras chatos confundem o mapa azimutal-quidistante polar :/

[@jormungandr9251]

You’re the master, Jos. Love your animations.

[@trueneese8080]

You’re not really showing where the routes originate from and are going to, they’re all blue lines so of course they would all be straight from one airport to another. Not that I am saying what DITRH says is accurate, this just isn’t a very easy demonstration to follow cuz there is too much going on, and you don’t show a single individual flight or go into any detail.

[@josleys]

Is that all you got against what I show? Can you not figure out which towns are involved from the map? The only thing you get right is that yes, the routes are straight lines from one city to another. (Note that straight lines on a sphere are great circles.) The only other thing you got right is that DIRTH is lying through his teeth.

[@robertgreenfield9051]

@@josleys They don’t like the video because they are easily confused

[@volcanoimage]

The flights do curve, over curvature of the Earth 😁

[@robertlafleur5179]

Jos, you must be a really bad person to be banned on so many channels. ;-)

[@tjjones621]

I am banned too. Just for asking what the FE looks like. It pisses them off for some reason. LOL

[@unclejeffthechad9459]

He deIeted my comments many times He is not an angeI, Jos is a hypocriteee...

[@robertlafleur5179]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 - Explain airplanes flights in the Southern Hemisphere.

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 KZbin automatically deletes comments. I am still waiting on your evidence that the Earth is flat.

[@josleys]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 Yep, anytime you do your trolling comments, I may throw them out. When you make sensible comments on the video, then your comments can stay.

[@kitcanyon658]

Great presentation, Jos.

[@hansnielsen4165]

What a nice list of *truth* seekers.

[@FrenchCrow]

... and lies dispensers :o)

[@ollllj]

A lot of airlines have weird restrictions and can not fly over china, or some near-east countries, doe to politics.

[@tjjones621]

Flatearthers have no idea where China is.

[@adventureswithdogs2251]

Nicely done, as always! Regarding your list of channels from which you've been banned: Anti-Globe: Suspiciously quiet for some time now, and channel now shows no content. Guess he got sick of being shown as a fool. Dan Pratt: Now has a new channel "Flat Earth terrifies Ewetoob". Gotta laugh at that, since YT is making a fortune from it! P.S. I see your old friend, Uncle Jeff The Chad has stopped by. I took a look at his channel, and noticed his first video titled "My Weed Bong". Surprised?

[@josleys]

I can't wait to get banned on "Flat Earth terrifies Ewetoob"!

[@swaaalla]

Love it

[@skepticdank1121]

And of course they’ll just say the flights are fake

[@josleys]

They have already said so!

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

That means that the airline passengers are all fake, too. I hope that the flat earthers informed the passengers that they don't exist. That's just common courtesy. If I did not exist, I would want to be informed of that. Wouldn't you?

[@skepticdank1121]

@@Mandelbrot_Set they end up having to dismiss so many everyday things as elaborate lies, they end up having to believe that millions of people are in on it, and billions of people are too stupid to figure it out.

[@romithromith]

@@Mandelbrot_Set Not all the passengers. Only the flights/passengers that sink FE. They're experts on discerning fake flights just like fake jpgs.

[@C4...]

Very nice 👍

[@hulkgreen6786]

4 dimensional angles to arrive at a globe conclusion, too much effort, just use the flat earth model easy to use

[@josleys]

There is no working flat Earth model you idiot!

[@sissyfus6181]

Navigation proves the globe. It has for over 500 years. Lemme guess, you can't navigate. None of you flerfers can.

[@robertgreenfield9051]

Easy but wrong

[@CrownRider]

I wander what the flat-earth flight time is from Australia to Patagonia. Must be a lot longer than the same flight on a sphere-earth. If you could reason with a flat-earther, that person wouldn't be a flat-earther.

[@MissionControl-dk]

Simple and yet some are still clueless.

[@sanfrois]

lumineux. merci.

[@edivaldopinheiro2904]

VERY GOOD !!! >:D

[@unclejeffthechad9459]

VERY BAD :-P

[@edivaldopinheiro2904]

​@@unclejeffthechad9459 Duvide do que vc ouve e vê na internet cara, pesquisando, vc verá que algumas coisas que não se encaixam com a terra plana, vc pode até fazer alguns experimentos em casa para tirar suas própias conclusões :)

[@tjjones621]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 LOOK EVERYONE! Dude has a map of Earth in the device he uses to comment! LOL

[@d_vibe-swe]

Perfect!

[@unclejeffthechad9459]

Perfect nonsense...

[@d_vibe-swe]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 Troll

[@tjjones621]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 LOOK EVERYONE! Dude has a map of Earth in the device he uses to comment! LOL

[@shallowfakes593]

So beautiful to watch

[@robertgreenfield9051]

lol, like David Weiss is capable of learning. Nice lesson for people without brain deficiencies though

[@천원지방]

둥근지구에서 평평지구로 전환해도 같은뎁쇼

[@josleys]

Sorry, but we do not speak Korean here.

[@천원지방]

@@josleys i cant write in English Sorry

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

Google Translate says: Even if you switch from a rounded area to a flat area, you can see the same depth.

[@천원지방]

Heaven is round, earth is square (천원지방) It is a view of the world that old ancestors of Korea think of.It is a system of repair and the basis of science from the main role.Western scientists studied the leading roles of the Orient and incorporated them into modern science.Einstein. Leifnitz.Cal Yong, Newton, Nielsbore, etc.

[@jumbleofwords]

@@josleys Holy shit- based?

[@score7635]

That's an impressive list of idiots who have banned you!

[@ToniLixSim]

u will go in that list when u bee smart, but i do not think u will be

[@MrSudzio]

routes are curved to match jetstreams winds

[@josleys]

Oh dear! You are as dumb as all the other flatties! What a shame!

[@drosophilamelanogaster4262]

@sudzio. Genius idea

[@samplistic]

Wow

[@NickVanderLaan7]

Jos, The problem is some of those Southern Hemisphere airline routes you mapped you *cannot* buy tickets because the route does not exist in reality. 🤣🤣

[@josleys]

Yes they do! Who told you they do not exist? I hope you are not listening to DITRH!

[@GrahamStw]

Utter nonsense. Most of these routes are flown in both directions multiple times per week.

[@robertlafleur5179]

Of course airlines publish false info, market those flights and then what, they tell potential customers that they can’t book those flights!!!! Makes perfect sense! What other idiotic things do you believe Nick? That Earth is flat?

[@mmixlinus]

You mean you cannot buy tickets _because of Corona?_ XD LOL

[@jaimevivesp]

@@robertlafleur5179 "What other idiotic things do you believe Nick?" Better don't ask...

[@unclejeffthechad9459]

Omg you just proved that Earth is a ball by showing us another fake ball Earth cartoon/3D animation video

[@FrenchCrow]

You missed the point.

[@jaimevivesp]

@@FrenchCrow And on purpose, like always.

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

Why is it that flat Earth is nothing but cartoons? Where is a real photo that shows the entire flat Earth?

[@frankdebrouwer-leiden]

@@FrenchCrow he's very good at that

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

Hey, Jeff! Why is it that all I can find is this cartoon of your little magically levitating Sun? Where is the video of your Sun from above? Where is the video of your magical dome? kzbin.info/www/bejne/npqymaaBdrdphbs All that I can find is CGI. Why is that?

[@ephesianarmorytchannel6838]

These lines are straight because the program that created the flight routes uses a globe program, taking flat data, putting it through a transform, and mapping a globe, so then when you map transformed flights, they will only fit to what they have been transformed to. NASA and the military own GPS and flight data. It's theirs first to manipulate.

[@josleys]

Oh dear! Please show us the 'flat data' on which all this is based than, according to you.

[@ephesianarmorytchannel6838]

@@josleys I don't have access to NASA database, but Robert Simmons did already say it Infront of you that NASA uses flat strips of data. That's them doing a mockery putting the truth in plane sight. NASA also has flat earth in so many documents, but sorry I can't show you their pretransformed data, they keep that within the organization. Military likes less to know more.

[@josleys]

@@ephesianarmorytchannel6838 So commercial airline routes are determined by NASA? You are even more of a stupid flat Earth moron than I thought!

[@jaimevivesp]

Lets see if I understand you correctly... you are saying that in reality the routes are not straight? Because if the routes were "transformed" to get them straight on a globe, over a flat earth they would be curved. I wonder how no pilot ever discovered they were not following a straight route, but were banking all the time.

[@robertgreenfield9051]

Why would they bother doing that if earth was flat? You could plan routes with a ruler. However, it isn’t flat.

[@damocarew]

👍

[@unclejeffthechad9459]

*GIobe sheepIes (🐑🐑🐑) 😂* *Atmosphere can't exist next to a vacuum without a physical barrier, nice try Jos!!!*

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

Are you claiming that it is impossible for a planet to have an atmosphere unless it is inside of a container?

[@josleys]

Hey Uncle, you may not have noticed but this is not about atmosphere. We would like you to explain why the airlines follow curved routes on your flat Earth. Any idea?

[@jaimevivesp]

Hurry Jeff, make a few more posts... you still have a few nonsensical arguments left, to hide the fact that you have no idea why the trajectories are curved on the flat map.

[@stargazer1295]

Jeff, you're not that good even at trolling.

[@boterlettersukkel]

Nobody is claiming there is a 14.7 PSI atmoSPHERE next to a vacuum.

[@radvlad1431]

That's a nice picture. Earth is FLAT

[@josleys]

Oh! Is that why the airlines follow these curved routes over FE?

[@steverushforth7009]

The person who made up flat earth did not have a grasp of simple maths and cartography. A simple mathematical model to check the validity of a flat earth map/model, any flat earth map/model would have to have a diameter of at least 25,000 miles to accommodate the worlds oceans and land mass, the problem is that the max distance between any 2 points on the earth is 12,000 miles, a fact known for hundreds of years and which prompted Columbus to try and find a westerly trade route to India, this means any flat earth map/model can have a max diameter of 12,000 miles, this gives only 25% of the area required, do you see the problem and why it makes a flat plane earth impossible? www.quora.com/What-is-the-longest-distance-between-any-two-places-on-earth? There are thousands of flights and sailings every day over 100k flights that safely and accurately navigate the world, how could this be possible on a flat earth with no working map/model suitable for navigation paper or electronic, no tables, offset lists, textbooks, almanacs etc etc? You will find that all modern GPS or GPS/hybrid systems are driven by the WGS1984 globe map/model which is accurate to a few CM's, @@unclejeffthechad9459

[@jaimevivesp]

So well refuted... I liked specially the part where you explained how the paths make sense on a flat map: I've never seen it explained so succinctly.

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 *Please supply one scrap of evidence that the Earth is flat or stationary.* Don't claim that the evidence is somewhere else or say something dishonest like, "Do your own research." Don’t defer to your cult leaders. Don't hide behind a link. Give one piece of evidence that you actually understand. Don’t just parrot your indoctrination, again.

[@radvlad1431]

@@jaimevivesp why thank you 😄! Since you give me such a nice compliment I'll give you even more detailed comment. The only curved lines are the longitudinal and latitude lines superimposed on the flat Earth 😯... yep 😎