A long look at the end game for the Patriots

Tom Curran and Phil Perry debate what’s next for Bill Belichick and the Patriots.
1:00-Looking back at what went wrong for Bill Belichick and the Patriots
9:00-Phil Perry talks about the atmosphere at Gillette
12:00-Bill Belichick’s comments when asked about his future
17:30-Why was Mac Jones the third-string QB?
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[@iiTsFaded_]

Not ready to say goodbye to one of the biggest reasons this franchise is so iconic in the world of professional sports. But if it is the end, thanks Bill. ❤

[@DonThaGoat94]

Even though we did benefit from spygate heavily for a while in the beginning. It was still a fun ride.

[@jayhawkins9459]

@@DonThaGoat94everybody was doing it

[@KevinWalkerKW]

​@@jayhawkins9459Yeah, everybody was doing it, just Belicheck is the ONLY one that got TWICE!😂😂😂

[@michaelprenoveau5335]

If your not working in the gray area of the rules your not trying hard enough.

[@KevinWalkerKW]

@@michaelprenoveau5335 Yeah, the GRAY AREA!😂😂😂😂

[@jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344]

Belichick and Napolean Bonapart have similarities. Bonapart won many great battles that are still studied today, he ruled an empire for a few years, but he ultimately lost everything at Waterloo. Belichicks Waterloo was Tom Brady's departure.

[@ericjohnson2515]

Juicy Mac v BB stuff actually! Senator & Tom. Thanks unappreciated this season’s analysis! On to The Future.

[@thrawn5k]

Can't wait for the draft

[@gosiahodge3462]

WITHOUT Bill..

[@DopeyDetector]

Patriots will never win another super bowl 😂😂😂 but hey, At least you are getting rid of this horrible Coach 😂😂 Fans are imbeciles

[@jnorm0075]

Anyone following Tom Curren knows he's been plugged in better than anyone all year on the Belichick factor. Phil and Tom are the best. Enjoyed you guys this year. Thank you

[@johnlinks]

These guys aren't plugged in. They've been making up stories and hoping it sticks

[@jnorm0075]

@johnlinks anyone else you can name has flip flopped from week to week except Tom when he said after the Germany game Kraft will separate from Belichick. Many others did not believe that could be true, and Tom was always a big supporter and superman of the Patriots. However, not this year and he was right every week. Some fans are also clueless. Everyone else now in the Boston media will now pretend "they knew it all along". Sunday against the Jets was their worst loss and summarizes why Belichick needs to go. He nose dived the Pat's from the day Brady left, and he shouldn't have left

[@sully6172]

If today is the end of THE ERA in the New England career of Bill Belichick, it was a helluva ride. Still as gifted as any defensive mind that ever stood on any sideline, if it is the end, it will be Bill's offensive shortsightedness that crippled his continuing head coaching of his dynasty. He attempted in the post-Brady years to continue the patchwork, role-player mentality in assembling both OLinemen and skill players to benefit from the unprecedented excellence that Brady led the franchise with. Excellence that Belichick drilled into his greatest acquisition, and which coerced Brady to sign a continuing series of contracts and extensions below his sky-high market value to sustain for most of two decades. Any listing of Bill's best defensive roster moves would read like a 200-page novel by Sun Tzu, but below (should anyone care to review) are one attentive fan's summary of The Hoodie's deeply-limited stellar offensive acquisitions: The Top 10 Best Offensive Moves Belichick ever made as a Pats GM/Coach: 1) 2001/2--Brady In, Bledsoe (and his contract) Out. 2) 2010--Trades twice to secure Rob Gronkowski in the top third of the 2nd Round. 3) 2007--Fleeces rival Dolphins for Slot God WR Wes Welker, promptly locks Wes up with a 5-year contract. 4) 2007--Uses a trio of trades to grab Randy Moss--and the pick that will yield 1st Rounder LB Jerod Mayo (Bill's reported heir apparent Head Patriots Coach)--from the bowels of Oakland purgatory. 5) 2005--Uses final 1st Round selection on perennial All-Pro Guard Logan Mankins. 6) 2001--Trades up to grab Tackle Matt Light in 2nd Round to blindside-protect Bledsoe/Brady. 7) 2016--Takes Guard Joe Thuney with first of three 3rd Round picks (Only offensive move in the last decade worth remembering fondly) 8 ) 2009--Uses FOURTH 2nd-Round draft pick to grab German Giant Sebastian Vollmer at Tackle from Houston Cougars via Dusseldorf. 9) 2004--Trades 2nd round pick to Bengals for malcontent monster RB Corey Dillon, to improve upon 2-time Super Bowl Champ Antowain Smith, and secure the last back-to-back titles in the NFL. 10) 2011--Acquires UFA Guard/Legend Brian Waters, when Chiefs wouldn't meet his price. Immediately the best and most decorated Interior Offensive Lineman the franchise had since John Hannah.

[@daneaton8567]

Bill’s done this to himself, his arrogance and stubbornness finally got the best of him. Appreciate everything he’s done, but he should not touch this next rebuild.

[@dpssocket]

Letting Brady go was unforgivable, whatever else he has or hasn't done for us there's no getting past that

[@BladimirRivas-rh1ty]

Brady was gone no matter what. Patruots didnt have the cap to resign brady

[@scottsuvoski9574]

In Kraft's eyes, that was a bad stinger I think. The beginning of the end that we're seeing now.

[@fatpatlives1998]

Tom Brady wasn't going to play forever ...he only played 3 seasons after 2019 and that team had more talent than the Patriots it was a favor to let him leave

[@danieltgeary00]

@@BladimirRivas-rh1tyyou’re crazy they could have signed him easily 😂

[@BladimirRivas-rh1ty]

@@danieltgeary00 No they could not. They were right against the cap and the extension would have had Brady playing for like 3-5 million, which wasnt going to happen. Thats a massive discount

[@scottsuvoski9574]

Parting should be Painless but it never is. Bill's tenure here has run it's course and it's time to move on. He will go down as one of the most prized possessions the Patriots has ever had, along with a long list of Players, Coaches, and Staff that had success that will never be seen again in the NFL. May he ride into the sunset like the proud warrior that he is! God bless.

[@DopeyDetector]

Has ran? Good lord😂😂😂

[@scottsuvoski9574]

@@DopeyDetector I corrected my bad grammar. Please forgive.

[@DopeyDetector]

@@scottsuvoski9574 Might want to revise a few more times. Sheesh. 🤣🤣

[@scottsuvoski9574]

@@DopeyDetector I'm at work now. But, I will check it more in depth later! Dunka!

[@DopeyDetector]

@@scottsuvoski9574 cool🙄

[@costo34ify]

Must watch pod

[@TedTucholski]

Thank you both Phil and F-ing Tom. You guys are the absolute best at reporting on the New England Patriots. I look forward to next year and watching both of you reporting on a team head coached by Jerod Mayo. With few to no remnants of Bill to distract from a new future.

[@tino6846]

😂Jerod Mayo 😂

[@j2times2006]

Everything eventually comes to an end. The Roman Empire New Coke, The 80 and 90s San Francisco 49ers, The Four Horseman... It sucks but it's inevitable. The Patriots Dynasty is now relegated to the history books... And it's just as marvelous in the pages of sports history as it was to watch and expierence over the last 25 years

[@scottsuvoski9574]

Never heard words spoken so truthfully. In this Life, everything, good or bad, eventually, must end!

[@stevenrodman7046]

I was there and the weather hurt us bad. But it was somber although we tried our hardest to cheer our team on. Fans turned out way more than expected. I don’t think I’ll ever forget this game but it still hurts seeing from where we came from.

[@carrollray1193]

Tom and Phil are the best.

[@elizabeth9674]

Hope you sent Bill some Flowers Tom, lord knows you wouldn’t have this career without him.

[@cag19549]

But Mac Jones would have had his. And he wouldn't be ruined by pettiness and arrogance.

[@dougmurphy4348]

Best Podcast on the World Wide Web

[@JohnCutajarDynamicBeliefs]

You picked 11 -7

[@lewisalba7825]

Tom is dummy never listened to his predictions ever

[@jbloun911]

Tom is living in the moment made up in his noodle 😵‍💫

[@sbond7442]

Great Show dude 👍👍

[@docvader82]

Thank you for saying it was the threesome of Kraft, BB and Tom. I'm soooo dead dog sick of 'was it Tom or Bill?'. It was both/all 3, period.

[@kekolber868]

This has been a slow-rolling funeral of a season.

[@anthonyhernandez2111]

Whatever the decision is..just please Pats, make it fast. no later than this week. its time to start healing and looking forward to a new iteration and era of Patriots football. I love and will alwasy remember the 2000-2023 Pats, but all good thing must come to an end, a rebrand is NEEDED. GO PATS!

[@audition8170]

losing to the jets, disgrace

[@jbloun911]

started with Bills napkin resignation to the Jets

[@MSJ860]

Can’t wait to see how all the ESPN talking heads and Tom spin this one when Bill is still the coach

[@pete6705]

At least this offseason will be exciting

[@ILuvRum]

Belichick screwed Mac Jone, because Jones refused to kneel and kiss the ring when Patricia was good ole boyed into the OC. Period

[@danieltgeary00]

💯💯

[@CRiiPFACE1100]

Bro jones is trash give it up 😅

[@davidg3944]

@@CRiiPFACE1100 No argument that he's not the answer. But he was still screwed by BB. The whole team was...

[@CRiiPFACE1100]

@@davidg3944 true that’s a fact but we have to be honest I been saying this since Alabama dude a great 2nd string nothing more or less I’m happy his era is over I genuinely hated that man and that’s not good idek him lmao

[@VMan29397]

​@@davidg3944 mac is a andy dalton type. Not a gamechanger but not a liability. Bill just botched his devevlopment

[@rebreaville9332]

The Mac Jones thing is a big ‘who cares’ at this point. Now that there is some distance from his benching, these things signal that MJ has big issues: the dirty play crap, the lack of fundamentals under pressure (feet), and the inability to make the throws downfield that were there. Belichick is vindictive. Why is Jacoby Myers not here (because he told the truth last year) is just the most recent example (there are so many others). Revenge is petty and reflects that Belichick cared about control over results. I can’t see that MJ is going to suceed anywhere in the league at this point. He has genuine character issues and it took me time to see them.

[@scottsuvoski9574]

Totally agree! I still can't get past the Malcolm Butler benching in the Super Bowl! And recently, how Bill O'Brien wasn't allowed to bring any of his personal stuff on Offense. Bill Micromanaged "everything". With him getting older, he's even more grumpy, stubborn and vindictive. Time to move on for sure.

[@marktween7629]

Thanks to you both!

[@alesitercrimson24]

As a fan, Im actually super excited to see a rebuild. New head coach, New starting QB, mostly new offensive line, mostly new receivers. Will take some years but it will be a fun watch.

[@alhenderson4141]

Love my patriots still a huge belichick fan💯👍🤜

[@terrencegibbons3351]

4 wins? Your fired!

[@thomas3487]

Good show Gentlemen on what was a somber afternoon in Foxborough...hope Bill all the best on what was the most dismal season that I can remember going back to the Remington days. Onward and Upward..Go Pats

[@Bigwave2003]

Today Bill Belicick tied the record for most regular season losses by a head coach.

[@leodrosia4369]

And he also won 75 pct of his games from 2001 to 2019

[@Mr.JX66]

Not taking anything away from the GOAT TB12, but Brady went to a team that was already stacked before the unretirement of another GOAT, Rob Gronkowski that led to another SB win. The last 2 years has hurt BB's legacy, but lets not forget who drafted Brady, developed him early in his career, and started him over Bledsoe. Not every SB win was just TB. Defense, offense, and kickers played a part in those wins as well...

[@sorenk20]

Nah it was all TB12

[@davidg3944]

​@@sorenk20 All? Don't be silly. Bill put in 1%, I'll give him that.

[@davidg3944]

Yeah, who drafted Brady after passing him by for five rounds. Psst: the name is Dick Rehbein. He's the one you should remember and thank for TB12.

[@thirstyforvino]

Hey Tom, Always look forward to your content!!!😁👍 I think you you have hit my point in past posts. So if I were to sum things up. The success from three levels that contributed to the success of the Patriots from 2001-2018. You had the right people from the front office, coaching and players with insightful planning to adjust to competition from year to year to be prepared for all challenges from other NFL teams at that time. After then pieces were pulled away from those three areas. Unfortunately Bill miscalculated compensating for these losses thinking that his experience could make up for this not realizing his acumen could not make up for weaker personnel, assistants and front office staff that made his life more comfortable after 2018. This wasn’t just Brady. It takes an entire organization to succeed. Unfortunately Bill didn’t realize having a continued plan for not only the best possible roster, but also the best assistants and front office are essential! No days off! No half efforts!!!

[@sully6172]

I think the hardest place for "Next Man Up Do Your Job" to apply is the assistant coaching ranks. That usually takes years. I'll take the Scar-McDaniels-Patricia-Flores-Judge lineup over the Scar-Weis-Crenel-Mangini-Seely predecessor, personally. Bill recognized coaching talent as surely as player talent, if not more so. If he relocates, some coaches will follow him quicker than players.

[@sugarman9323]

Great pods as always. Think you’re over thinking the Mac 3rd string. They just didn’t want him to play the last game.

[@davidg3944]

Looking forward to the denouement and then the future of the Pats. I think Bill is done. He should admit that to himself, to the team, to the Krafts. Or, the Krafts should make sure Bill understands it, even if he doesn't want to face it. It's the "year too late" staring us in the face.

[@jaisriram295]

Sir Alex Ferguson and Bill Belichick are the 2 best head coaches in the history of sports...both the head coaches of my 2 favourite teams and now both garbage...just my luck 😂 but from the age of 10 I watched nothing but winning so I can hardly moan

[@danieltgeary00]

I feel this

[@TrickyDick71]

It was a helluva ride guys

[@scottsuvoski9574]

Yes it was, it will never be matched again in our lifetime!! Especially in the NFL!

[@darinw3797]

I'm probably alone on this statement, but if the NFL is in full capacity, all starters . I believe that Tom would not have # 7. I believe it would of ended like 2021 and 2022. Please do not miss understand me. I loved watching and cheering the patriots as I did in the late 70's,80's 90's and to the present time.

[@oldernu1250]

Blind to OL. Tommy, you are not giving Scar enough credit. Bill relied on Scar so long, he forgot how important the OL is. Four bad drafts kill chances of winning: bad picks.

[@davidgroth26]

New coach, BOB getting to pick his coaches, maybe McDaniels rookie QB whisperer, I like Mac as QB 2, maybe could be traded in a year or two, get a 3rd round

[@Aza13]

See you boys in 2024! Pats all day!

[@davidgroth26]

Tuney walks, S Mason traded, they could have had 4 pro bowl level O linemen this year, just bad roster management. Tuney Andrews Mason Onwenu. Terrible decisions. Horrible WR coaching route running, Klemm and O line? yikes

[@gerryortiz7276]

End of a dynasty. What a run. Time to say goodbye

[@Don-md6wn]

It's pretty hard to pin Mac on Kraft when Bill went into this season with Mac as the only QB on the 53 man roster, even after he had a bad 2022. Bill never gave Mac any real competition and was finally forced to turn to a QB he thought so little of that he cut him at the end of training camp.

[@oldandangry44]

Sick of how bill tyrannically interact’s with all human beings!

[@BrEmail]

You have Rourke for a backup so that if he needs to come into the game there's no danger of winning (we need the highest pick possible at this point)

[@jldp24]

BB is 72...its over. There is no case for optimism. 5 years after TB and its been a .43 stat record. NE Patriots need to start over and get the fanbase reinvigorated.

[@CrosswaIk]

Wow, this is quite the sewing circle 😂

[@TheRealMRGG85]

To anyone saying bill ruined Mac I say to you that you where ignoring all the red flags his rookie year. His last 5 games his rookie where a precursor to the rest of his career. Bills had to major mistakes in the last 6 years getting rid of Brady and drafting Mac,and bill never really wanted Mac. Only drafted him because Kraft started applying pressure to win now. The fact that Kraft still thinks the kid can play is very telling. I gotta give Kraft a little bit of blame for the current state of the team. She should of kept doing what was working let bill do his thing and stay out that realm, or if he no longer thrusted him Todo so fire him. Me personally I blame the fact that we even drafted Mac on Kraft. Pretty sure he just wanted Mac to be the quarterback so he could make Kraft Mac and cheese commercial.😂

[@martinleavitt6094]

The Hoodie had his day in the sun.🌞🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆..it's time for Bill/Patriots to part ways...the franchise needs a fresh start..lets start the re-build with a new coaching staff in the near future..that, paired with a high draft position (#3)...we can get this thing turned around...i wish the Hoodie the best in his future endeavors.....🏁

[@Ac0ustics0ul]

ah well...now if you'll excuse me, I'm on way to go get TWO jabs because Travis Kelce said so!

[@wesmckenna8287]

😂

[@jbloun911]

No thanks swifty

[@Don-md6wn]

You won't get one because, like Kaaron Rodgers, you get your medical advice from great medical scholars like Joe Rogan.

[@wesmckenna8287]

@@Don-md6wn how’s the heart bro ?? Lmao

[@papifuego5273]

I believe Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick will make the right choice. Love this team no matter what. Personally hope bill comes back

[@danieltgeary00]

Helllll no 😂

[@BrEmail]

Thanks Phil (at least for trying) to clean up the language

[@dieselblue23]

Tom is one of the more sane reporters and talking heads, yet how many are lining up to smoke Bill because they didn't like his media style for the last 20 plus years 😂

[@nickgeorge8450]

His future isn’t decided. No matter what speculation there is. Why would I say bye if I believed he’ll be back

[@3321far]

Are you from Boston? The Celtics won 13 championships between 1957 and 1976.

[@dusdincobain1191]

Why is no one talking about the 31st o line in the league hahaha

[@rebreaville9332]

The next QB pair should be a top draft pick and a vet. Not Mac Jones. Even Garoppolo would be ok if he would agree to come in and be a bridge. JG may not have to take that deal but a 30 something QB who has played OK in the league is who we need to coach up the rookie QB.

[@terryraynor8919]

You think that just a little Mac didn’t try to work on his own game ? The league had tape on him after the rookie year and knew better how to defend him ?

[@ramaraksha01]

Over and over they keep saying drafting a QB was the ONLY option Do what the Rams did - they went after an experienced QB and hit it big! At this stage of his career, Bill should have insisted that they spend the pick on getting an experienced QB Even this year, Lamar was available - but they did not make a move As we can see Bill can still coach up a defense - year after year his teams finish in the top 10 It is the offense where he falls short - seems clueless on how to draft receivers Brady masked those deficiencies - he took care of the offense & they won big That's what Bill needed - an experienced QB who could take care of the offense I have no clue why this huge brain trust thought drafting a QB was the way to go & it seems they still want to go that way This time it is harder to trade that pick because it is so high & if they trade that pick and get an experienced QB and that guy gets injured, they will never hear the end of it

[@WillyPDX94]

Only a complete Bellichick/Patriots sycophant would say no other team in any sport had matched their 2001-2018 stretch. The Celtics never did it? Are you fricking serious. The Boston Celtics won 11 championships in 13 years. You guys just went 4-13 and you still can't summon an ounce of humility. If it weren't for Brady, the Patriots and "the tone setter" Belichick would have been a .500 team. Tom Brady is the undisputed GOAT and that fact that New England die hards like Tom Curran put Bill above Brady shows how embarrassingly deluded they are.

[@GrizzleyBruin]

So Bill got sick and tired of Brady because bill couldn't put a good team around him, and then got sick of Mac jones because bill couldn't put a good enough team around him. Imagine being the employee for a boss like that. You'd be begging to get injured on the job and going home on workman's comp.

[@KevinWalkerKW]

These 2 FAIL to realize that MOST Patriots fans is TIRED of Belicheck! It's OBVIOUS he's not this ALL WORLD coach that people tried to make him out to be! And if this is the end for Belicheck, its the PERFECT ending! Belicheck has ALWAYS been an EGOTISTIC NARCISSIST!

[@adriansaldana5993]

Time for a change or hire a GM and have Bill focus on coaching

[@danieltgeary00]

Can’t split the baby he will sabotage it

[@50caliber29]

Bill always got rid of players & coaches, even exceptional players when either their performance dropped off, they were going to be finically unviable or were a problem. He was ruthless when it came to the team, problem is when he applys that standard/methodology & culture to the team then he needs to apply it to himself & he isn't. The team has performed poorly since Brady left & it is down to him. He needs to apply that ruthless decision making to himself if he's not an asset to the team he should accept it & make the tough decision just like he has done for all those other players/coaches etc.

[@zoewhite897]

-8 losses by 7pts or less -10 losses where they were within one possession in the 4th quarter -Great defense despite injuries to matt judon and Christian Gonzalez and a terrible offense. They arent that bad.

[@daneaton8567]

Lowest scoring offense in the league… they’re horrible offensively and have a need at literally every offensive position

[@andrewstowe4313]

They are ok at interior O-line, running back, and probably Tight end if they re sign Hunter Henry/Pharoh Brown. They need a number one receiver, 1-2 tackles and a QB. It is a lot, but definitely not every position. Douglas is a solid option in the slot and Bourne is also potentially ok as a number 2 receiver. The need at receiver is exaggerated by the bad QB play. I know these talking heads like to pretend this team is years away, but the reality is if they hit on the right QB who can elevate his team mates they can compete next year. I think Douglas could absolutely surprise the league if he was playing with a competent passer.@@daneaton8567

[@Sam-jx8tv]

They are a 4 win team. Good teams find ways to win games and bad teams find ways to lose games. They stink.

[@danieltgeary00]

8 excuses

[@Tom-vt1eu]

Excuses. They are bad.

[@jayy88]

Tom I thought they’d win 10-12 games?

[@michaelarmour3917]

Time to draft the next Ryan Leaf!

[@Parker-4203]

FINALLY, it's over... 😮‍💨

[@tylers9476]

Wow...Belichick ends his era with the Patriots with a loss to the Jets after 15 straight wins against them and the offense only putting up 3 points making them one of the lowest scoring offenses for the year....

[@danieltgeary00]

So ready to be done with bill

[@leodrosia4369]

19 years of excellence but now we need a new GM ....bb should only stay as hc

[@dennispelchat5267]

I agree

[@Vermonster23]

If reports are true about Bill Belichick, In not allowing O’Brien to bring on his own personnel, that is just one big problem. The fact that players disappear or get traded the moment they disagree with them may be another problem. The fact is the patriots are a miserable team to watch. If you’re a fan of football, I don’t suggest watching them. I know people are fanatics and follow them no matter what. I am not that type of fanatic. I do like football. If the patriots retain Bill Belichick, I will be watching the Raiders next year. Yeah I know I’m not a real fan that’s fine. However, if Bill Belichick is on the patriots next year, I do not expect them to be any better than this year, so… Good luck.

[@SD-zx1uh]

No one is really talking about O’Brien, terrible offense this year. If we keep Bill, we might have to get rid of O’Brien.

[@jayy88]

Can Tom ever go on camera without Macs name in his mouth?

[@leafygreen2799]

John, watch your mouth 😂

[@joeruiz4010]

4-13 Record. How the mighty have fallen. Time to move on. I think Belichick has a good 3 to 4 years left to go win elsewhere.

[@Bigwave2003]

Based on what? Before and after Tom Brady, Bill Belichick has a losing record.

[@cag19549]

You'll never convince me that Belichick didn't ruin Mac Jones career on purpose. The ultimate in arrogance and pettiness, "Do what I say or you'll never work again"

[@robbybenz]

The wonder boy Phil Perry!! Wondering about things - These tow should be made to list all the things they wondered about during the course of the year that turned out 100% false - It would be quite the list. The podcasts are great fiction. Thats about it. “I don’t think”. Give us facts wonder boy, not wonderings!!

[@gosiahodge3462]

Bill will win more games only if the team he goes to has a good/very good offensive playmakers/QB...if not...he will run them in the ground like the Patriots.

[@andrewstowe4313]

You mean like every coach ever? Remind me again who it was that won with bad/terrible QB play?

[@danielperry6557]

​@@andrewstowe4313thank you, some how noone else gets this.

[@biloxi63]

With the third pick, New England selects..... Drake Maye.😃

[@mrsnoopyaaaaa]

The reason he gave him more reps is because Bill is a big jerk, plain and simple. He hates Mac Jones guides. That’s the only reason.

[@rebreaville9332]

Phil and Tom: sorry that you guys are covering an irrelevant team. You guys are really talented and I will keep watching. I’ve been writing since the early part of the season that the bigger picture was about COLLAPSE. There was no element of the team except the defense that was playing to “NFL average”. Offense and special teams were terrible and this is about teaching and coaching. Belichick owns that and his performance is consistent with a collapsing system. The discussion going forward is about how to rebuild from a collapse. Yet, I think the Kraft’s are going to appoint Mayo, see if BOB wants to take full charge of the O (assuming Mayo is ok), and hire an independent GM. This path is not a rebuild but an attempt to hold onto to the vanished era. I don’t think it will work.

[@edjonatchick]

Mac is back as a starter next year with a veteran backup and a draft pick that fits the system for the new coach.

[@DopeyDetector]

Guy wins 6 super bowls and 9 afc championships... But, f him. He like, had a few bad seasons😂😂😂 Vile

[@KevinWalkerKW]

This guy is still talking that Belicheck PROPAGANDA, sounding FOOLISH! I wonder how many Super bowls Bruce Arians would've won if he Brady for 20yrs!

[@hughmungus2465]

Can you imagine if BB goes to another team and wins a SB. That would mean the Pats kicked two GOAT HOF'ers out the door just to watch them go win SB's with other teams while their own franchise sinks to the bottom of the league.

[@williamli6200]

I bet you have forgot how Broncos came back from 7-23, I bet you have forgot how Bills came back from 10-22. Belitard's fans are so so so clueless.

[@mikegrace2819]

I’ll stop watching football.

[@williamli6200]

@@mikegrace2819 You will miss games like his defense allowed Broncos coming back from 7-23, or allowed Bills coming back from 7-22.

[@soulpatrolhawaii5409]

Pats were 12-4 when Brady left They are 4-13 if Bill leaves now That’s a huge difference They’ve already tanked, regardless of whatever he does next…

[@joshuacohen22]

I agree with you. TB12 went to a stacked team and won. BB can do the same. Let's face it, if we had a half decent offensive line and a qb that can actually manage the game, we're looking at a 11 win season easily.

[@MichaelMyers-tg9uh]

All these games are scripted, so i don't know why everybody is getting upset when they're teams lose😂

[@oldernu1250]

So, Mickey, you should make a bundle picking horses in a fixed race? Yup. 'Course.

[@MichaelMyers-tg9uh]

@@oldernu1250 don't bet i like having $ 😆

[@Don-md6wn]

I'd expect somebody who doesn't know they're from their to think NFL games are scripted.

[@MichaelMyers-tg9uh]

@@Don-md6wn ?😆

[@danieltgeary00]

#thelast25years

[@lovevibration3]

fire Kraft

[@mrsnoopyaaaaa]

Listen guys you guys and I know that nothing is gonna change craft is the cheapest owner in the NFL history. He isn’t gonna make any kind of blockbuster trades or pay any superstars. It’s not gonna happen so we’re gonna be in last place for years to come because he’s gonna hire Mayo as a coach. The guy has no experience. He gets to pay him peanuts and keep the rest of the staff intact because he’s so cheap.

[@jldp24]

sounds like misery. there nothing positive coming out of the Patriots Organzisation, and it doesn tlook like its going to end.

[@JLw260]

Always disparaging others to pump up Mac why do you do that? It makes no sense Tom we all saw Mac play

[@ubtrippin9980]

Should have cut Belichick a year too early rather than 4 years too late. Enough of this spiteful narcissist. Go ruin some other team.

[@JohnCutajarDynamicBeliefs]

Pooor poor Mac Jones. Enough. Lets see what the future holds for Mac

[@JohnCutajarDynamicBeliefs]

Are they really going to do a pod how everyone let Mac down. Mac missed the reads, Mac threw the interceptions I will try to say it like this, let's see where the chips fall for Mac next yr.

[@Chauncey60]

Christ, I see Tom is still delusional about Mac. The kid sucks. He was not ruined by the coaching staff. He had a fluke rookie year and he sucks. And yes, Zappe is worse. End of story.

[@Paul1958R]

A shitty ending. Amen

[@newenglandstacker]

I see TC is in masshole mode here.

[@ironPatriots48]

The wise thing to do is keep Belichick as head coach, hire someone as general manager that can put together a solid draft, free agency to build the patriots team we know and is used to. If Kraft moves on from BILL, and brings in another coach, we better be ready for at least a 3-5 year " Get It Together ", seasons. When Bledsoe went down, Belichick drafted a total jewel in Brady to smoothly transition into the dynamic dynasty we had for 20+ years. Mac and Zappe is not it.. when Tom left, that was the beginning of a fall and rebuild of this team. Between bratty fans, and these sports idiots talking down about Belichick and the patriots, it's led to this, instead of everyone realizing it will take time. AGAIN, "IF" the krafts let go of coach, we better buckle up, because it will not be a pretty ride..

[@michaelgoodwolf6117]

I prefer Belichick over Kraft and his media goons.