A Look at Inside Man (Voy)

[@daveroche6522]

3:00 "... special tech-tech-bullshit will happen" - thank you, that's a total keeper....

[@patrickcoyle5469]

16:05 - I love the idea that stories of Janeway's twisted madness managed to reach the Alpha Quadrant so much faster than her ship did. I'm sure that in corners of the galaxy untouched by any other human influence, there are parents who tell their children that if they don't behave, The Janeway will rip their happiest memories from their heads, fuse them into the flesh of other creatures, or simply erase them and make everybody else forget they existed.

[@Tepetto]

😢😮

[@Tepetto]

😢😮

[@sarahberkner]

It seemed clear that Holobarclay just told Neelix that they'll need a morale officer to give him something to do and make him not feel useless. He's been programmed by the Ferengi to make people feel better about themselves so that they're more easily manipulated.

[@Johnsavage1]

The part that really bother's me is 'herb's' aggressive reaction to the Doctor wanting to play golf, why? what does he care it doesn't affect his plans and it nearly gets him caught. Take away that bit make the crew less naive, give holo Barclay more credibility and change the bad guys to Romulans this could have been a classic.

[@gallendugall8913]

Bad writers come up with an idea and that's where their effort stops so the idea ends up surrounded it by contrivance. Contrived reason to introduce the idea, contrived presentation of the idea and contrived conclusion to the idea. Bad writers are bad because they're lazy. Good writers put in effort to make everything around the idea they came up with support the idea and that synergy will make the idea they came up with better. Good writers are good because they put in the effort to be good.

[@owlsayssouth]

really, chuck, you missed the opportunity to say the Ferangi are only interested in Seven's Body.

[@anndra8687]

I've never liked Torres or Paris more than that end scene. That is brutality worthy of the Dominion. The Ferengi made the right call by folding. If there is even a chance that you've crossed Janeway you need to just give up and run away.

[@GnomePickles]

This episode always confused me. If they could use a star to make a wormhole thing why didn't they use it as a way to resupply Voyager or staff a ship with holgraphic crew to send them some support ships? Maybe send a Defiant or Saber class escort filled with gear to help get them home safe. You cannot send organic matter, fine, I can accept that, but maybe some gear can be sent to make their lives easier and their job a lot simpler.

[@KairuHakubi]

I think if they weren't at war they would have done just that, and then after it was over, they were like "yeah but.. they're probably dead now" Also that wormhole thing was pretty new tech wasn't it? like Barclay had just developed it.

[@GnomePickles]

@@KairuHakubi Fair point is fair. With supplies stretched thing it could have seemed to be too big an expense to send gear or a support ship for some hard liners. It just sort of bugged me.

[@KairuHakubi]

@@GnomePickles Totally. and scifi SHOULD make you ask questions. It's just unfortunate Voyager never seemed very interested in answers :c

[@void2258]

So they can contact voyager all the way in the Delta quadrant in the 24th century, but Vulcan and Kaminar are too far to maintain contact in the 31st?

[@ptonpc]

The only thing that regressed was the intelligence and competence of the writers, not that this was a high bar for Voyager.

[@Jokie155]

@@ptonpc Audiences regressed further in competency and basic decency.

[@MerelyAFan]

This almost felt like a sadly fitting encapsulation for Voyager's treatment of various main characters; a plot building on the development of a character from another series while having Harry essentially still acting like he was circa season one. The crew acting like gullible idiots even seems to demonstrate the lack of care they had for the crew's characters at this point.

[@planescaped]

Oh thank god a new Star Trek... I was having withdrawl. Now Imma go watch it on the website for full video footage instead of just slides. :P

[@keffey99]

Herb's impression of Janeway is as good as yours. 😁

[@frojoe2004]

.... so if this fold lets you send tech unaffected, why didn't Star Fleet send them a new, better, ship through the fold? Or any supplies?

[@wendyheatherwood]

They could have sent half a dozen shuttle craft full of torpedoes and finally put an end to that question.

[@nickname3721]

16:02 isn't that Romulan writing on the screen??? (Down right)

[@OUTSIDER40]

Good job 👍

[@mr51406]

8:05 Amen! 😅 Incompetence… Or also “ artistic license” (translation: “cuz I felt like it”). Which is why Klingons have changed and changed back so many times.

[@minhdang4344]

Remember that one time when Harry falls in love with a holodeck character and instead of reprogramming it, he instead seeks to get rid of his emotions? Harry is an idiot.

[@Dave-sk9mn]

12 - 18? thats kinda low balling it Chuck

[@Thraim.]

I guess this version is edited down so you don't get copyright flagged?

[@chrisw207]

I always took this as typical Voyager: nice idea, and it'll be great once they make a real episode instead of the fan film Voyager was in it's last 2 seasons.

[@joelellis7035]

Well, when they sent The Doctor to the Alpha Quadrant, Harry and B'Elanna had to remove a number of the Doctor's subroutines to make his file small enough to transmit. It's quite possible that the holographic Reg was slightly too big.

[@sidrad]

I know I saw this episode when it aired, but the only scenes I actually remember are Herb imitating Janeway and the very end with the Ferengi. The rest was a blur.

[@KairuHakubi]

I think the awkwardness around that scene can be excused a bit, I mean these people are isolated, they're gonna be enamored with any new person who shows up with new jokes.

[@foxbat1766]

I hate it when Gilligan messes up the plan to get them off the island...

[@KairuHakubi]

wait what was that about 'a bird named wren' ?

[@notoriouswhitemoth]

'The problem must be with the hologram' or maybe it's a man-in-the-middle attack intercepting your transmission

[@balin1920]

❤❤

[@sarahberkner]

A look inside, man.

[@Redshirt434]

In season 7 of Voyager, which takes place after the end of DS9, we have Ferengi acting like it was season 3 of TNG. 😑

[@DeconvertedMan]

I guess they didn't send the A-Team this time... ;)

[@InfernosReaper]

To be real, if they did send the A-Team, the Voyager crew would actually be helping the universe and The Borg would be fleeing to the Alpha Quadrant to beg The Sisko for mercy.

[@DeconvertedMan]

@@InfernosReaper :)

[@ptonpc]

If the crew had any sense (ie, the writers were good) the first thing the crew would have asked of Herb is "Why didn't Starfleet just send the plans, any needed data and messages? If we needed a hologram Barclay, we can make one at this end" The fact that no one was suspicious of the log jam is alarming. TLDR, A place I did support for would suffer a massive network slow down every Friday afternoon. It didn't crash the network but it was concerning enough for me to track down what was causing it. While I do like Dwight Schutlz and his performances, this was just another wasted opportunity for a decent story.

[@sarahberkner]

But they actually did try to send a holographic Barclay, that wasn't the odd thing. The Voyager crew have also gotten used to treating a hologram as a person because of the Doctor so it would seem rude to say they don't want him there, and they're glad to have any word from Star Trek although of course they weren't very careful. They've never downloaded a hologram from that new technology before, they wouldn't notice anything out of the ordinary.

[@charlesvan13]

So a phone call from the Moon has a 2 second time lag, one second for the speed of light in each direction. But there's no such issue 10^12 times farther.

[@daveroche6522]

Primary lesson: NO-ONE loves Marina Sirtis as much as she does!

[@ptonpc]

Yep.

[@sarahberkner]

Dumb comment. No one I've ever heard has said she's narcissistic or hard to work with or a mean person, she seems to be generally well-liked and the main TNG crew got along famously (literally, famously). So you just pulled this out of thin air because YOU don't like her. You don't have to like everyone but you also don't have to hide behind a screen and be a jerk to complete strangers.

[@thepld]

What happened to your existential fear of KZbin copyright strikes from CBS?

[@navibc31]

It's all still photos so I don't believe there'll be a problem

[@thepld]

@@navibc31 Uh-oh, he included 3 seconds of footage of a panel exploding. Good night, sweet prince

[@aaronlea9559]

Herb lol

[@Night-Mayor]

I got an idea let's put an H on his fore head. So we can tell him apart from the real one.

[@MrDj232]

Why aren't holograms sapient? The holodeck is basically a transporter that makes temporary matter held together by forcefields. So holographic people have what should be a fully functional organic brain.

[@MrHatoi]

There's a DS9 episode where they essentially say that the "neural patterns" have to be handled by a separate transporter system because they're more complex than the rest of the body, so it seems like less "complex" matter like an arm or a leg is easier for transporters/holograms to handle, so they probably don't actually put a real organic brain in holograms.

[@KairuHakubi]

so we're relegated to slideshows now eh. the dailymotion version's not workin.. god damn why won't a single lawyer stand up and get a landmark victory against people blatantly violating the law? It's not as if there's SYMPATHY toward google, they'd win automatically.

[@thetruth45678]

There is sympathy for Google... in the courts. Both are owned by China, after all.

[@KairuHakubi]

@@thetruth45678 how did china manage to buy the courts?

[@thetruth45678]

@@KairuHakubi With money.

[@KairuHakubi]

@@thetruth45678 communists have no money

[@KairuHakubi]

@@thetruth45678 ohh I see, you believe what you're told. Well pro tip dude: China lies.