*** COMEDY OF ERRORS *** As eagle-eyed viewers have already spotted, at 1.25 I say "non-metallic metals," where I actually mean "non-MAGNETIC metals" 😂🤣😁 And yes, Arbe had a similar day to me when they labelled their bowl 2.00 with "Water Lavel" rather than "Water Level" 🤣😂🤣
@infernaldaedra2 жыл бұрын
I thought I had a aneurism when I read water Lavel
@freddotu2 жыл бұрын
@@infernaldaedra Shouldn't it read "water navel?"
@shimmerite_ua2 жыл бұрын
"Water Lavel" is now forever stuck in my head)
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Maybe we can pretend it's a special word just for polishing 😁😁😁👍👍👍
@eriksteenkamp50432 жыл бұрын
As a goldsmith the magpol is a super tool that many people don't know about. Fine and detailed things go very well but chains even those that float on the water are where this shines. Use a tub with a central cone and put the ring on a zip tie so it spins in the main current will get even better results.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent share Erik 😁😁😁
@jeweldey36992 жыл бұрын
I have a magnetic polisher by a different manufacturer, but magnetic polishers are epic. I bought one a month ago. Wow! It can do in 6 mins what would take me hours to do. Epic!
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informed feedback. 👍👍👍
@MrSanjacjewels2 жыл бұрын
Reversable mag tumblers work even better, they are considerably more money. If you use a strong hot pickle solution after casting, rinse well then tumble your results will be better. Less oxidation to remove.
@vicbauwens Жыл бұрын
Bought myself a Chinese knock-off at a quarter of that price, which looks virtually identical and yields the same good results. Seeing the spelling mistake on the water bowl (water lavel) I strongly suspect that the on you are reviewing is just as Chinese, but with a posh badge.
@docbrown3139 Жыл бұрын
Wish I would’ve got a magnetic tumble earlier it’s saved me so much time and hard work the finishing on it is fantastic. Wasted 3 years doing everything by hand. You get your moneys worth within a few days.
@vogman Жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@bizarro20daves2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. A few months ago would have been better as bought that exact tumbler but ah well, now is good as well. I'm trialling some different media in the plastic tumbler to play around with textures as well so will hopefully have a use if not saving my hand polishing time.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Good idea 😁
@LeaOverAtVatic2 жыл бұрын
Definitely adding this to the shop thanks! Love how small and cute it is too
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lea. It's a real time saver 😁😁😁
@HunterValleyDan2 жыл бұрын
Great video Geoff! The Arbe machines really do look like top quality gear.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan. Take care buddy 👍👍👍
@KeithOlson2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I was expecting there to be another zero on the end of that price and I would have just shrugged if there was. I would imagine that something built to that quality will never need to be replaced during a person's career and the sheer amount of polishing materials and manhours it replaces would make it well worth even ten times its normal cost.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Spot on Keith. A good tool is an investment... it supports you for years and makes life easier 😁
@dahmanus20022 жыл бұрын
you did a good demonstration about this Arbe Magnetic Polisher, and i suggest you to tilt the bowl 30 ° from the surface of the machine so as to bring the noules to fall on the samples, i hope this methode will have good results, good luck.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Interesting 😁😁😁
@TKs3DPrints2 жыл бұрын
another great video vog. i imagine it has many uses as long as its metal and needs clean. should be good also in a garage for cleaning up bolts and stuff.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I don't think these work on magnetic items. The pins and the work would clump together which would be a pain. In such a situation a traditional barrel tumbler would be better 😁😁😁
@TKs3DPrints2 жыл бұрын
@@vogman was thinking more on the line for classic car owners restoring cars using this to clean all the small things and bolts and stuff. and yea would not be a good idea to try and clean a magnet :)
@paulcadden98462 жыл бұрын
Nice one. I use coca-cola to keep the pins clean, works a treat.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the share Paul 😁
@captainjerk2 жыл бұрын
A sturdy machine for sure! And it works an absolute treat! :D Thanx for the honest review Geoff!
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Cap. Always good to hear from you 😁😁😁
@rethonn2 жыл бұрын
Intresting video, I wonder if theres any other uses for it other than metal objects like polishing 3d prints for example. Id imagine you would need a fine magnetic material though
@AlexandreSalf2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I am curious. How does this kind of polisher perform on a resin piece? Like for example on a dice... As it use metal pie es and not soft stones.
@noviceartisan2 жыл бұрын
Ooh, had a bad thought 😁 Have you got a normal magnetic stirrer, the kind you'd use in a lab, for mixing liquids using a stir bar? Cos I'd be so very interested to see how one of those works with the same barrel full of magnetic media compared to the £400 one 🤣 To my brain, it's just a motor with a couple of magnets on a propeller style rotor, and a basic speed controller. Which boggles me for the price of it 🤣 (Or ya know, take a peek inside the new toy and share some pics ;) so naughty people like me can cut a £400 corner 😏🤣)
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Nothing naughty about saving a little money. I guess anyone with a cheap stirrer got try it 😁
@ianroberts81582 жыл бұрын
A new toy with a great review nice one geoff have a wonderful Christmas
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
And you too Ian 😁😁😁
@dwinegardner82512 жыл бұрын
As always, very informative. Thanks
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks 😁
@jamesjusick14622 жыл бұрын
I had a huge one like that for deburring gun parts after machining, it was good for small burs and polishing. My business partner bought one just to polish brass cartridges in for reloading. they work well but the pins get everywhere and are costly to replace.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the share 😁
@girrrrrrr22 жыл бұрын
Could you do a... Open up/tear down Of the base? I'm curious as to what's in there. Obviously don't do it if your warranty will be voided or you will get in trouble.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Not a lot I would guess... a big motor, some gearing, magnets. 😁😁😁
@JR-nw4to2 жыл бұрын
Do these style "polishers" actually polish the material? I.e., abrade material from the surface? Or are they actually burnishing the surface with no removal of material? Great video!
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I think because the pins are so fine they are less inclined to cause damage. I certainly haven't noticed any at least. They do burnish as that's the process, but it certainly prepares the surface very well for fine polishing.
@pablojuan32582 жыл бұрын
1:29 What are non-metallic metals ? 😂 I guess you meant non magnatic metals ? Great video, as always ♥️
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I know... I'm an idiot at times 😁😁😁
@stevesloan67752 жыл бұрын
I had my 711 1700 Xflow crank shot-peened to remove the inherent material stress from cast. I’m feeling this process could relieve material stress😂😂😂 I hope so😂😂🙏🏻🍀🤜🏼🤛🏼🇦🇺🤓
@Ozzy23412 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Vog, is this the 4” or 5” model ?
@rothery22 жыл бұрын
I don't do much in the way of metal casting, but am always looking for a better solution for polishing resin and other materials. Do you think this would work with materials other than non-ferrous metals?
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I would imagine so, but I'm not sure resin prints would survive 😁
@futonmonkey822 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking about buying something like this for 3D prints. I print @ 0.1 and just trying to kind of give my prints a textured uniform finish. Would you be so kind as to throw some FDM prints in there and see the finishes over time???
@shadowtheimpure2 жыл бұрын
Even for an amateur, this thing would pay for itself within about 10 projects just in terms of raw time savings.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I think so too 😁
@CraigLYoung2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 😁
@Walter-wo5sz2 жыл бұрын
I use steel pins in a tumbler, this looks 2 or 3 times faster. I use citric acid and dish soap in the water.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
The citric acid is a nice tip, thanks 😁
@coulterjb222 жыл бұрын
That was impressive! My tumbler just got scared.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Talking reassuringly to it. It will be fine 🤣😂🤣😁😁😁
@andyspoo22 жыл бұрын
Many 3d sla cleaners use magnets to stir the cleaning liquid from below. I wonder how well those pins would work in one of those??
@szguangu Жыл бұрын
cool
@markwilliams56542 жыл бұрын
Try the pins in the cheap tumbler
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I have Mark. It's still the same issue... works but very slowly.
@X3msnake2 жыл бұрын
there are also vibration tumblers that work much better than rotating tumblers, and afik rolling tumblers are best for polishing stone gems
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I did make a vibration tumbler a while ago. It was quite basic but very noisy. That's what put me off in the end. I like a quiet life 😁😁😁 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZSlhml3fpmdbc0
@X3msnake2 жыл бұрын
@@vogman i saw it the other day, good job :) I believe a decent comercial vibration tumbler should be a lot more silent than any diy we can build, but will still be much more noisy than a magstir. Maybe sometime a manufacturer out there sends you one to compare. that would be awsome :)
@pantwearer2 жыл бұрын
At 1:27 I think you mean non ferrous metals :) great video!
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
True, but I was trying to make things clearer 😁
@pantwearer2 жыл бұрын
@@vogman do you think the process could work for smoothing fdm prints? Or giving a different texture to sla prints?
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
The pins are very fine so they'd be less likely to cause damage, but I still can't imagine it working.
@arncj1810 ай бұрын
i bet there were ancient methods of polishing with sand
@king2pair Жыл бұрын
Would a cheaper one work just aswell is the question
@arncj1810 ай бұрын
will this 100% not harm a snake type silver bracelet?
@johnd17742 жыл бұрын
As an comercial jeweler both the thumbler and magnetic polisher have its places in the workshop. Mine are almost running full time. My work would be a lot harder without these machines
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informed feedback John 👍👍👍
@tenlittleindians2 жыл бұрын
How long before the pins are all magnetized and sticking to one another? I've got a couple of demagnetizers that I could use on the pins from time to time.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting question. I guess we'll wait and see 😁
@aidshusten2405 ай бұрын
I wonder why they spelled wota wrong...at the Water Lavel text
@TizzyD2 жыл бұрын
Don't such polishers decrease the details or scratch up from a cast? Or are the materials too soft to cause real damage?
@ale62422 жыл бұрын
You know, for the time saved, that price is actually pretty good!!
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I'm a believer in "you get what you pay for." This is a sturdy bit of kit that should last for years. The weakest link is the plastic bowl and this is very sturdy. But if it does wear out, these are sold separately for £30, so all in all pretty fair 😁
@Alex8mart Жыл бұрын
can i assume if i have a small flat piece of stainless steel i will have a matte finish with no scratches or sharp edges? I am aware that it will not be a final mirror finish, but would it be matte?
@TrasteIAm2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if adding a couple of magnets to your regular tumbler wouldn't give similar results.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I think they'd need to be strong magnets, but anything is possible 😁
@catnamestaken2 жыл бұрын
Cool
@antonrantanen31872 жыл бұрын
i think you should 3d print coffee grinder and then cast it in metal
@EazyNA212 жыл бұрын
When's the Phrozen 8k Mini review coming out?
@75keg752 жыл бұрын
Does give a better initial result! With the tumblers have you used ceramic pellets? Most large scale manufacturing I’ve seen on shows like “how they do it” use Pumice like ceramic pellets to polish.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
This does give a great result and no messing about. The super fine pins get into all the hard to reach areas 😁
@75keg752 жыл бұрын
@@vogman gets into all the tight spaces, like beach sand… 🤣
@johnd17742 жыл бұрын
Ceramic pellets are for different aplications
@AT-gu8by8 ай бұрын
Does it scratch the metal, in anyway.
@ChannelHTS2 жыл бұрын
very cool
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy 😁
@caseyfuchs Жыл бұрын
WIll i get rid of the rough surface from sandcasted jewelry?
@rafik66938 ай бұрын
can i used it for stone rings
@lloydbaker70992 жыл бұрын
Nice review
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lloyd 😁😁😁
@ddb53542 жыл бұрын
Whats the best castable resin thats available in germany/europe ? many of your review samples seem to come imported from the us and youve never made a chart on which you like the most here i believe
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Bluecast is an Italian brand and should be easily available in Europe. Of the Bluecast's, X One is my favourite kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKPRf3tnf85leqc 😁
@greensun59982 жыл бұрын
On the side of the plastic bowl it says Water Lavel, what does Lavel mean or have they just misspelt Level?
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
It think it means someone at Arbe got yelled at for signing off on a mis-spelling 😁😁😁
@markwilliams56542 жыл бұрын
I just you a cheap Chinese tumbler....I use at slow speed and use the stop and move the other way mode maybe try different polishing media
@girrrrrrr22 жыл бұрын
Would a general surfactant work instead of the polishing fluid?
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I really don't know. I've heard of folks using laundry detergent.
@bluedeath9962 жыл бұрын
for something made in America what is with the "lavel"
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's actually made in Amaricia 🤣😂😁
@mortem-tyrannis2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the tumbler you had do this if you put water in it, that is if it's water tight?
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
No, I tried all sort in that. I think it's the difference between things falling ON to a piece and things been driven INTO a piece. The difference is very surprising 😁😁😁
@mortem-tyrannis2 жыл бұрын
@@vogman ok thanks
@PencilParasite2 жыл бұрын
Dear VOG , no cheap burnout oven to recommend?
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Not yet. I really DO keep asking around. I'll find one yet 😁😁😁
@jesseerven48592 жыл бұрын
water lavel
@blaccteezy4 ай бұрын
I swear you're Bearish the youtoober
@vogman4 ай бұрын
Don't know the guy, so I'm definitely not 😁😁😁
@azafreak2 жыл бұрын
lel 'Water Lavel'
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I know... I didn't see that until I'd finished the video. I bet someone at Arbe got a kick in the pants for signing off on that order 😁
@jerrywhidby.2 жыл бұрын
1:26 do you mean non-ferrous metals?
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I'm getting older... what can I say 😁😁😁
@soggymarshmallow2 жыл бұрын
A shame the product is available only through CousinsUK. Oh well.
@facenameple46042 жыл бұрын
For use with "non ferrous" materials, I think you mean. :) You said non metallic.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I was trying to make it clear 😁
@facenameple46042 жыл бұрын
Wow. That is the machine I would use to clean up cast miniatures! That is AMAZING. 315 pounds is worth it for the quality!
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I agree 😁😁😁
@jacobsivertsson33212 жыл бұрын
0:05 egg oil guy
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I've been called worse 😁
@markwilliams56542 жыл бұрын
I just use washing liquid
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I've used laundry detergent. Nice cleaning properties without excessive bubbles 😁
@sebastienc87972 жыл бұрын
"for use with non metallic metals like Gold, silver, bronze, copper" ? :-) Non ferrous, i guess ?
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I guarantee if I'd said "non ferrous" someone would have asked what that means. But yes 😁😁😁😁😁
@rdgk1se30192 жыл бұрын
I thought stainless steel was non-magnetic.
@tenlittleindians2 жыл бұрын
Some compounds of stainless are nonmagnetic and some are indeed magnetic. As an example I have an induction cook plate and only the stainless steel pans that are magnetic will work. I went through my pots and pans and found very few that a magnet would stick to.
@rothery22 жыл бұрын
depends on the grade of stainless.
@joshwalker56052 жыл бұрын
you know its “Made In America” when they misspell “level.” Clearly these guys went to US public schools as well.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
What? They teach spelling in America? They don't seem to do that in the UK these day 😁😂🤣😁😁😁
@noviceartisan2 жыл бұрын
£377 once you add the VAT lol!
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
True... I forgot the tax man's cut 😁
@mdhaynie2 жыл бұрын
It’s a glorified magnetic stir plate…
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Well, it's a magnetic stirrer, yes, but with a powerful motor that should last years 😁
@NC-77v2 жыл бұрын
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@vogman2 жыл бұрын
You may have noticed I stopped Shorts a few weeks back. I was happy enough when I believed that there wasn't revenue generated from Shorts, but I later discovered there was, though the way this revenue is distributed is not what I'd expect. For that reason, until they change it, there'll be no more Shorts from me.