A look at Magnetic Polishing with the Arbe Magnetic Polisher - by VOGMAN

[@vogman]

*** COMEDY OF ERRORS *** As eagle-eyed viewers have already spotted, at 1.25 I say "non-metallic metals," where I actually mean "non-MAGNETIC metals" 😂🤣😁 And yes, Arbe had a similar day to me when they labelled their bowl 2.00 with "Water Lavel" rather than "Water Level" 🤣😂🤣

[@infernaldaedra]

I thought I had a aneurism when I read water Lavel

[@freddotu]

@@infernaldaedra Shouldn't it read "water navel?"

[@shimmerite_ua]

"Water Lavel" is now forever stuck in my head)

[@vogman]

Maybe we can pretend it's a special word just for polishing 😁😁😁👍👍👍

[@eriksteenkamp5043]

As a goldsmith the magpol is a super tool that many people don't know about. Fine and detailed things go very well but chains even those that float on the water are where this shines. Use a tub with a central cone and put the ring on a zip tie so it spins in the main current will get even better results.

[@vogman]

Thanks for the excellent share Erik 😁😁😁

[@jeweldey3699]

I have a magnetic polisher by a different manufacturer, but magnetic polishers are epic. I bought one a month ago. Wow! It can do in 6 mins what would take me hours to do. Epic!

[@vogman]

Thanks for the informed feedback. 👍👍👍

[@MrSanjacjewels]

Reversable mag tumblers work even better, they are considerably more money. If you use a strong hot pickle solution after casting, rinse well then tumble your results will be better. Less oxidation to remove.

[@docbrown3139]

Wish I would’ve got a magnetic tumble earlier it’s saved me so much time and hard work the finishing on it is fantastic. Wasted 3 years doing everything by hand. You get your moneys worth within a few days.

[@vogman]

Great to hear!

[@LeaOverAtVatic]

Definitely adding this to the shop thanks! Love how small and cute it is too

[@vogman]

Thanks Lea. It's a real time saver 😁😁😁

[@bizarro20daves]

Awesome. A few months ago would have been better as bought that exact tumbler but ah well, now is good as well. I'm trialling some different media in the plastic tumbler to play around with textures as well so will hopefully have a use if not saving my hand polishing time.

[@vogman]

Good idea 😁

[@HunterValleyDan]

Great video Geoff! The Arbe machines really do look like top quality gear.

[@vogman]

Thanks Dan. Take care buddy 👍👍👍

[@AlexandreSalf]

Great video as always. I am curious. How does this kind of polisher perform on a resin piece? Like for example on a dice... As it use metal pie es and not soft stones.

[@dahmanus2002]

you did a good demonstration about this Arbe Magnetic Polisher, and i suggest you to tilt the bowl 30 ° from the surface of the machine so as to bring the noules to fall on the samples, i hope this methode will have good results, good luck.

[@vogman]

Interesting 😁😁😁

[@vicbauwens]

Bought myself a Chinese knock-off at a quarter of that price, which looks virtually identical and yields the same good results. Seeing the spelling mistake on the water bowl (water lavel) I strongly suspect that the on you are reviewing is just as Chinese, but with a posh badge.

[@dwinegardner8251]

As always, very informative. Thanks

[@vogman]

Many thanks 😁

[@ianroberts8158]

A new toy with a great review nice one geoff have a wonderful Christmas

[@vogman]

And you too Ian 😁😁😁

[@paulcadden9846]

Nice one. I use coca-cola to keep the pins clean, works a treat.

[@vogman]

Thanks for the share Paul 😁

[@rethonn]

Intresting video, I wonder if theres any other uses for it other than metal objects like polishing 3d prints for example. Id imagine you would need a fine magnetic material though

[@simongasi1020]

Can it be used with items that have zircon, but not to damage them?Like rings

[@TKs3DPrints]

another great video vog. i imagine it has many uses as long as its metal and needs clean. should be good also in a garage for cleaning up bolts and stuff.

[@vogman]

I don't think these work on magnetic items. The pins and the work would clump together which would be a pain. In such a situation a traditional barrel tumbler would be better 😁😁😁

[@TKs3DPrints]

@@vogman was thinking more on the line for classic car owners restoring cars using this to clean all the small things and bolts and stuff. and yea would not be a good idea to try and clean a magnet :)

[@jamesjusick1462]

I had a huge one like that for deburring gun parts after machining, it was good for small burs and polishing. My business partner bought one just to polish brass cartridges in for reloading. they work well but the pins get everywhere and are costly to replace.

[@vogman]

Thanks for the share 😁

[@girrrrrrr2]

Could you do a... Open up/tear down Of the base? I'm curious as to what's in there. Obviously don't do it if your warranty will be voided or you will get in trouble.

[@vogman]

Not a lot I would guess... a big motor, some gearing, magnets. 😁😁😁

[@futonmonkey82]

I have been thinking about buying something like this for 3D prints. I print @ 0.1 and just trying to kind of give my prints a textured uniform finish. Would you be so kind as to throw some FDM prints in there and see the finishes over time???

[@KeithOlson]

Honestly, I was expecting there to be another zero on the end of that price and I would have just shrugged if there was. I would imagine that something built to that quality will never need to be replaced during a person's career and the sheer amount of polishing materials and manhours it replaces would make it well worth even ten times its normal cost.

[@vogman]

Spot on Keith. A good tool is an investment... it supports you for years and makes life easier 😁

[@Alex8mart]

can i assume if i have a small flat piece of stainless steel i will have a matte finish with no scratches or sharp edges? I am aware that it will not be a final mirror finish, but would it be matte?

[@tenlittleindians]

How long before the pins are all magnetized and sticking to one another? I've got a couple of demagnetizers that I could use on the pins from time to time.

[@vogman]

That's an interesting question. I guess we'll wait and see 😁

[@rafik6693]

can i used it for stone rings

[@caseyfuchs]

WIll i get rid of the rough surface from sandcasted jewelry?

[@rothery2]

I don't do much in the way of metal casting, but am always looking for a better solution for polishing resin and other materials. Do you think this would work with materials other than non-ferrous metals?

[@vogman]

I would imagine so, but I'm not sure resin prints would survive 😁

[@CraigLYoung]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@vogman]

Thanks for watching 😁

[@EazyNA21]

When's the Phrozen 8k Mini review coming out?

[@arncj18]

i bet there were ancient methods of polishing with sand

[@JR-nw4to]

Do these style "polishers" actually polish the material? I.e., abrade material from the surface? Or are they actually burnishing the surface with no removal of material? Great video!

[@vogman]

I think because the pins are so fine they are less inclined to cause damage. I certainly haven't noticed any at least. They do burnish as that's the process, but it certainly prepares the surface very well for fine polishing.

[@AT-gu8by]

Does it scratch the metal, in anyway.

[@arncj18]

will this 100% not harm a snake type silver bracelet?

[@TizzyD]

Don't such polishers decrease the details or scratch up from a cast? Or are the materials too soft to cause real damage?

[@stevesloan6775]

I had my 711 1700 Xflow crank shot-peened to remove the inherent material stress from cast. I’m feeling this process could relieve material stress😂😂😂 I hope so😂😂🙏🏻🍀🤜🏼🤛🏼🇦🇺🤓

[@75keg75]

Does give a better initial result! With the tumblers have you used ceramic pellets? Most large scale manufacturing I’ve seen on shows like “how they do it” use Pumice like ceramic pellets to polish.

[@vogman]

This does give a great result and no messing about. The super fine pins get into all the hard to reach areas 😁

[@75keg75]

@@vogman gets into all the tight spaces, like beach sand… 🤣

[@johnd1774]

Ceramic pellets are for different aplications

[@andyspoo2]

Many 3d sla cleaners use magnets to stir the cleaning liquid from below. I wonder how well those pins would work in one of those??

[@TrasteIAm]

Wonder if adding a couple of magnets to your regular tumbler wouldn't give similar results.

[@vogman]

I think they'd need to be strong magnets, but anything is possible 😁

[@noviceartisan]

Ooh, had a bad thought 😁 Have you got a normal magnetic stirrer, the kind you'd use in a lab, for mixing liquids using a stir bar? Cos I'd be so very interested to see how one of those works with the same barrel full of magnetic media compared to the £400 one 🤣 To my brain, it's just a motor with a couple of magnets on a propeller style rotor, and a basic speed controller. Which boggles me for the price of it 🤣 (Or ya know, take a peek inside the new toy and share some pics ;) so naughty people like me can cut a £400 corner 😏🤣)

[@vogman]

Nothing naughty about saving a little money. I guess anyone with a cheap stirrer got try it 😁

[@girrrrrrr2]

Would a general surfactant work instead of the polishing fluid?

[@vogman]

I really don't know. I've heard of folks using laundry detergent.

[@markwilliams5654]

Try the pins in the cheap tumbler

[@vogman]

I have Mark. It's still the same issue... works but very slowly.

[@Ozzy2341]

Excellent video Vog, is this the 4” or 5” model ?

[@king2pair]

Would a cheaper one work just aswell is the question

[@lloydbaker7099]

Nice review

[@vogman]

Thanks Lloyd 😁😁😁

[@PencilParasite]

Dear VOG , no cheap burnout oven to recommend?

[@vogman]

Not yet. I really DO keep asking around. I'll find one yet 😁😁😁

[@pablojuan3258]

1:29 What are non-metallic metals ? 😂 I guess you meant non magnatic metals ? Great video, as always ♥️

[@vogman]

I know... I'm an idiot at times 😁😁😁

[@pantwearer]

At 1:27 I think you mean non ferrous metals :) great video!

[@vogman]

True, but I was trying to make things clearer 😁

[@pantwearer]

@@vogman do you think the process could work for smoothing fdm prints? Or giving a different texture to sla prints?

[@vogman]

The pins are very fine so they'd be less likely to cause damage, but I still can't imagine it working.

[@Walter-wo5sz]

I use steel pins in a tumbler, this looks 2 or 3 times faster. I use citric acid and dish soap in the water.

[@vogman]

The citric acid is a nice tip, thanks 😁

[@ddb5354]

Whats the best castable resin thats available in germany/europe ? many of your review samples seem to come imported from the us and youve never made a chart on which you like the most here i believe

[@vogman]

Bluecast is an Italian brand and should be easily available in Europe. Of the Bluecast's, X One is my favourite kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKPRf3tnf85leqc 😁

[@coulterjb22]

That was impressive! My tumbler just got scared.

[@vogman]

Talking reassuringly to it. It will be fine 🤣😂🤣😁😁😁

[@greensun5998]

On the side of the plastic bowl it says Water Lavel, what does Lavel mean or have they just misspelt Level?

[@vogman]

It think it means someone at Arbe got yelled at for signing off on a mis-spelling 😁😁😁

[@shadowtheimpure]

Even for an amateur, this thing would pay for itself within about 10 projects just in terms of raw time savings.

[@vogman]

I think so too 😁

[@X3msnake]

there are also vibration tumblers that work much better than rotating tumblers, and afik rolling tumblers are best for polishing stone gems

[@vogman]

I did make a vibration tumbler a while ago. It was quite basic but very noisy. That's what put me off in the end. I like a quiet life 😁😁😁 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZSlhml3fpmdbc0

[@X3msnake]

@@vogman i saw it the other day, good job :) I believe a decent comercial vibration tumbler should be a lot more silent than any diy we can build, but will still be much more noisy than a magstir. Maybe sometime a manufacturer out there sends you one to compare. that would be awsome :)

[@mortem-tyrannis]

Wouldn't the tumbler you had do this if you put water in it, that is if it's water tight?

[@vogman]

No, I tried all sort in that. I think it's the difference between things falling ON to a piece and things been driven INTO a piece. The difference is very surprising 😁😁😁

[@mortem-tyrannis]

@@vogman ok thanks

[@ChannelHTS]

very cool

[@vogman]

Thanks buddy 😁

[@aidshusten240]

I wonder why they spelled wota wrong...at the Water Lavel text

[@bluedeath996]

for something made in America what is with the "lavel"

[@vogman]

Maybe it's actually made in Amaricia 🤣😂😁

[@GHILLIESARCADEANDMORE]

Cool

[@ale6242]

You know, for the time saved, that price is actually pretty good!!

[@vogman]

I'm a believer in "you get what you pay for." This is a sturdy bit of kit that should last for years. The weakest link is the plastic bowl and this is very sturdy. But if it does wear out, these are sold separately for £30, so all in all pretty fair 😁

[@szguangu]

cool

[@antonrantanen3187]

i think you should 3d print coffee grinder and then cast it in metal

[@johnd1774]

As an comercial jeweler both the thumbler and magnetic polisher have its places in the workshop. Mine are almost running full time. My work would be a lot harder without these machines

[@vogman]

Thanks for the informed feedback John 👍👍👍

[@markwilliams5654]

I just you a cheap Chinese tumbler....I use at slow speed and use the stop and move the other way mode maybe try different polishing media

[@jerrywhidby.]

1:26 do you mean non-ferrous metals?

[@vogman]

I'm getting older... what can I say 😁😁😁

[@facenameple4604]

For use with "non ferrous" materials, I think you mean. :) You said non metallic.

[@vogman]

Yes. I was trying to make it clear 😁

[@facenameple4604]

Wow. That is the machine I would use to clean up cast miniatures! That is AMAZING. 315 pounds is worth it for the quality!

[@vogman]

I agree 😁😁😁

[@jacobsivertsson3321]

0:05 egg oil guy

[@vogman]

I've been called worse 😁

[@jesseerven4859]

water lavel

[@azafreak]

lel 'Water Lavel'

[@vogman]

I know... I didn't see that until I'd finished the video. I bet someone at Arbe got a kick in the pants for signing off on that order 😁

[@soggymarshmallow]

A shame the product is available only through CousinsUK. Oh well.

[@blaccteezy]

I swear you're Bearish the youtoober

[@vogman]

Don't know the guy, so I'm definitely not 😁😁😁

[@markwilliams5654]

I just use washing liquid

[@vogman]

I've used laundry detergent. Nice cleaning properties without excessive bubbles 😁

[@sebastienc8797]

"for use with non metallic metals like Gold, silver, bronze, copper" ? :-) Non ferrous, i guess ?

[@vogman]

I guarantee if I'd said "non ferrous" someone would have asked what that means. But yes 😁😁😁😁😁

[@rdgk1se3019]

I thought stainless steel was non-magnetic.

[@tenlittleindians]

Some compounds of stainless are nonmagnetic and some are indeed magnetic. As an example I have an induction cook plate and only the stainless steel pans that are magnetic will work. I went through my pots and pans and found very few that a magnet would stick to.

[@rothery2]

depends on the grade of stainless.

[@joshwalker5605]

you know its “Made In America” when they misspell “level.” Clearly these guys went to US public schools as well.

[@vogman]

What? They teach spelling in America? They don't seem to do that in the UK these day 😁😂🤣😁😁😁

[@noviceartisan]

£377 once you add the VAT lol!

[@vogman]

True... I forgot the tax man's cut 😁

[@mdhaynie]

It’s a glorified magnetic stir plate…

[@vogman]

Well, it's a magnetic stirrer, yes, but with a powerful motor that should last years 😁

[@NC-77v]

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[@vogman]

You may have noticed I stopped Shorts a few weeks back. I was happy enough when I believed that there wasn't revenue generated from Shorts, but I later discovered there was, though the way this revenue is distributed is not what I'd expect. For that reason, until they change it, there'll be no more Shorts from me.

[@catnamestaken]

Cool