A Look at Time's Arrow (TNG)

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@stevena488
@stevena488 6 ай бұрын
"LOOK OUT! MARK TWAINS GOT A GUN!" - Lt Cmdr Billips, lacking oxygen
@maxxjapan619
@maxxjapan619 5 ай бұрын
What in the sam hill are you quotin'? I thought I was the one supposed to be Twain!
@FromMyBrain
@FromMyBrain 2 ай бұрын
Seriously don't forget to drink water on the holodeck.
@jonahfalcon1970
@jonahfalcon1970 6 ай бұрын
Twain's voice and inflections were legendary and people imitated it for ages. Then Hal Holbrook did his show for 60 years.
@JMimsey
@JMimsey 6 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Hal Holbrook who originated the Twain performance that Jerry Hardin used...played Deepthroat in All The President's Men. Also, both men appear in the underappreciated classic The Firm, starring Tom Cruise.
@AaronLitz
@AaronLitz 6 ай бұрын
_The Deep Throat Connection._
@CaptainJZH
@CaptainJZH 6 ай бұрын
If I had a nickel for every time an actor who played Mark Twain also played Deep Throat and were also both in The Firm with Tom Cruise, I'd have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird it's happened twice
@docseamonster3491
@docseamonster3491 6 ай бұрын
21:45 there's actually this really neat comic book called The Five Fists of Science inspired by that event. Twain and Tesla have a giant robot and they fight Cthulhu.
@TF2CrunchyFrog
@TF2CrunchyFrog 6 ай бұрын
That concept sounds like it could be either the silliest thing or the most awesome.
@docseamonster3491
@docseamonster3491 6 ай бұрын
@@TF2CrunchyFrogIt's both.
@daviddiggens8841
@daviddiggens8841 6 ай бұрын
Damn... I knew you got fisted if you trusted the science but 5... Wow
@MrDj232
@MrDj232 6 ай бұрын
21:30 Tesla in the background looking like he's about to steal Mark Twain's soul.
@John73John
@John73John 6 ай бұрын
I like how they just blatantly violated the Prime Directive AND contaminated their own timeline at the same time by giving Mark Twain a grand tour of a starship.
@cbhlde
@cbhlde 6 ай бұрын
But who would believe Mark Twain? :)
@MKDumas1981
@MKDumas1981 6 ай бұрын
Predestination paradox. Already cleared and approved by Temporal Investigations, and whoever Captain Braxton worked, works, and will work for. I have up keeping my tenses straight years from now.
@spencersholden
@spencersholden 6 ай бұрын
@@MKDumas1981same reason why no one stopped Admiral Janeway.
@MKDumas1981
@MKDumas1981 6 ай бұрын
Braxton: "If I have to deal with Captain Insaneway - excuse me, _Admiral_ Insaneway, I'll just transport myself back to the late Twentieth Century. Even those post-industrial barbarians had a better grasp on reality than Katie O'Claire."
@zephyr8072
@zephyr8072 6 ай бұрын
Braxton would go on to finally lose it and take out his frustrations by forcing Johnathan Archer to randomly travel or "leap" if you will through time.
@zephyr8072
@zephyr8072 6 ай бұрын
If you stuck a Devidian in a tree, would they be a Branch Devidian?
@daviddiggens8841
@daviddiggens8841 6 ай бұрын
Wow... The weird nostalgia you just gave me is.... Well weird
@magical_catgirl
@magical_catgirl 6 ай бұрын
Time's Arrow was the first episode of Star Trek that I saw in full. I had seen random clips before while skimming through the overnight recordings on the VHS looking for what I had recorded. Oddly, given how Australian network TV of the time treated science fiction, it was being aired in prime time rather then at random oclock overnight.
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 6 ай бұрын
Guinan used connections to get them on the base, she mentions it in a toss-away-line.
@BlackDoveNYC
@BlackDoveNYC 6 ай бұрын
I like this two part story though the criticism is mostly valid.. I think of it as one of the “comfort food” episodes of ST:TNG fun and light.
@paullunsford8921
@paullunsford8921 6 ай бұрын
Great review. All your criticisms are completely valid, but this is still one of my favorite TNG episodes to throw on while I'm doing something. It's just such a fun episode, carried entirely by the competency of the cast. I also enjoy the Mark Twain impression as campy as it is.
@Zeithri
@Zeithri 6 ай бұрын
_Mmrmrmm, Ya! Woh! Ha!_ The Devidians show up again in Star Trek Online and they are a pain to bother with. They also like to hang out on Drozana Station for some reason.
@sirrliv
@sirrliv 6 ай бұрын
It just popped into my head: There actually was a catastrophic disease outbreak in San Francisco starting around 1900. Only it wasn't cholera: it was the Bubonic Plague. It started among Chinese immigrants and spread throughout the city by rats. Attempts were made to quarantine and research the outbreak, but these were hampered by self-serving politicians and the general anti-Asian racism of the time. Ultimately what largely stopped the outbreak from growing into a national pandemic was, kind of ironically, the Great Earthquake of 1906, because sometimes you need a city destroying disaster to stop a city destroying disaster. Not sure if that's what the writers were referencing here; the fact that there was a Medieval plague in San Francisco has only largely come to public light fairly recently. But it's possible, and the writing team just got the disease wrong because cholera is more strongly associated with the 19th Century than the Bubonic freaking Plague.
@ThePiachu
@ThePiachu 6 ай бұрын
Probably if they'd say it was the plague too many people would think that's a silly thing and what were the writers thinking since reality can be stranger than fiction...
@YouTubecanfuckagoat
@YouTubecanfuckagoat 6 ай бұрын
When using your time dilator actually causes a temporal cortex, causing a massive earthquake, that ironically, eradicated the reason you tried to hit those coordinates because “the great death” wipes out almost half the world in your reality. Now, you’re stuck in a past that has spiralled off, from your own perspective, from the main timeline. Everything is now a butterfly effect. For us. It’s history.
@HilaryPea
@HilaryPea 6 ай бұрын
@@ThePiachu And as silly as it sounds, I remember hearing about more recent, but smaller, bubonic plague outbreaks in the last couple of decades.
@TF2CrunchyFrog
@TF2CrunchyFrog 6 ай бұрын
True about the San Francisci Bubonic Plague outbreak. But the year 1900 was also near the start of the 6th global cholera pandemic. Cholera originated in the subcontinent India and only arrived in the Western hemisphere in the early 19th century via port cities, first reaching London in 1830 and the USA (via Quebec, Canada) in 1832. Early outbreaks in the Indian subcontinent are believed to have been the result of crowded, poor living conditions, as well as the presence of pools of still water, both of which provide ideal conditions for cholera to thrive. Seven global cholera pandemics have occurred since the early 19th century; the first one did not reach the Americas. - The first cholera pandemic occurred in the Bengal region of India, near Calcutta (now Kolkata), starting in 1817 through 1824. The disease dispersed from India to Southeast Asia, the Middle East, Europe, and Eastern Africa through trade routes. The disease first spread by travelers along trade routes (land and sea) to Russia in 1817, later to the rest of Europe, and from Europe to North America and the rest of the world (hence the name "Asiatic cholera"). - The second pandemic lasted from 1826 to 1837 and particularly affected North America and Europe, due to the result of advancements in transportation and global trade, and increased human migration, including soldiers. - The third pandemic erupted in 1846, persisted until 1860, extended to North Africa, and reached South America, for the first time specifically affecting Brazil. - The fourth pandemic lasted from 1863 to 1875, and spread from India to Naples and Spain, and to the United States in 1873. - The fifth pandemic was from 1881 to 1896 and started in India and spread to Europe, Asia, and South America. Spanish physician Jaume Ferran i Clua developed the first successful cholera inoculation in 1885, the first to immunize humans against a bacterial disease; out of the 30 thousand people he vaccinated only 54 died. The Russian-Jewish bacteriologist Waldemar Haffkine also developed a human cholera vaccine in July 1892. He conducted a massive inoculation program in British India. Persons who survive an episode of cholera (which if untreated has a mortality rate of 50-60%) have long-lasting immunity for at least 3 years. In the 21st century, a number of safe and effective oral vaccines for cholera are available, as well as one injectable vaccine. - The sixth pandemic started in India and lasted from 1899 to 1923. These later epidemics were less fatal due to a greater understanding of the cholera bacteria. - The seventh pandemic originated in Indonesia in 1961 and is marked by the emergence of a new strain, nicknamed El Tor, which still persists (as of 2018) in developing countries. A cholera outbreak started in Yemen (in nthe south of the Arabian peninsula) in 2016 and is still ongoing due to the civil war in Yemen (which started in 2015), the wide-spread poverty in Yemen and lack of access to clean drinking water... or water in general, as ground water is the main source of water in Yemen but the ground water table has dropped dramatically from 30m to 1200m, beyond the reach of normal wells, from massive overuse due to lack of government regulations, and the war destroyed most civic infrastructure.
@TF2CrunchyFrog
@TF2CrunchyFrog 6 ай бұрын
@@HilaryPea Yes, various types of bubonic plague and pneumonic plague (of the lungs) are still around, esp in developing countries in Africa and Asia where access to the suitable antibiotics is scarce. Although the virus strain that was responsible for the medieval Bubonic Plague no longer seems to be around, thankfully, according to genetic sequencing done on virus particles found in mummified remains of medieval plague victims. The medieval strain, from historical accounts, had rapid onset and could kill within days or in some cases a few hours, as some victims allegedly got up in the morning feeling fine, but then the swellings of the lymph notes (buboes) appeared and the black spots on the skin and the victim died of massive sepsis before the day was over. Historical accounts mention both the bubonic symptoms but also pneumonic symptoms, so either it was a virus strain that affected multiple body systems or multiple strains that affected victims at the same time. Not uncommon if the virus was a new mutations and rapidly mutating, as we've seen recently with Covid-19.
@Norvo82
@Norvo82 6 ай бұрын
Wonder why the writers decided to set Time's Arrow after Twain wrote A Conneticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. It would have been another neat little nod if his experiences on the Enterprise inspired him to write his own time travel story.
@spartacus36526
@spartacus36526 6 ай бұрын
Yea Guinan, you may never meet. Unless it’s in your bar or whatever in 2024….
@zephyr8072
@zephyr8072 6 ай бұрын
Now now, let's not bring fanfic into this.
@Jokie155
@Jokie155 6 ай бұрын
That's not their first meeting, from any perspective.
@maxxjapan619
@maxxjapan619 5 ай бұрын
Oh god, I hated that soooooo much.
@JanRademan
@JanRademan 6 ай бұрын
A convaluted plot that would have been sorted immediately if they had just plugged in the head they found on Data's body and asked it what happened.
@MaxDoll
@MaxDoll 6 ай бұрын
The Mark Twain voice was gratingly strident. And you brought up very good points regarding the alien villains. But I've always liked this episode. And I have a soft-spot for the reading of Midsummer Night's Dream. Especially with Data reading Puck's lines, when Brent Spiner voiced Puck in Gargoyles. And Mrs. Carmichael's giggle is adorable.
@JerryListener
@JerryListener 6 ай бұрын
That Cosby impression just roofied me.
@nathanbrown8680
@nathanbrown8680 6 ай бұрын
It sounds like an impression not of Cosby but of Cosby doing an impression. Specifically the drugged out bum from the bus station announcer sketch.
@YouTubecanfuckagoat
@YouTubecanfuckagoat 6 ай бұрын
You’ll forget all about it.
@stevemanart
@stevemanart 6 ай бұрын
The overlap of "Knows about Football in the 1990s" and "Watches reviews of old sci-fi for entertainment" feels like it should be pretty small, but here I am getting a Joe Montana joke in 2024.
@Willpower-74205
@Willpower-74205 6 ай бұрын
I hope that I'm not the only one who noticed that the Data's head prop looked a bit off. It's likely due to the materials they were using at the time, but it still gave my much younger self the creeps.... 😳
@marshallhuffer4713
@marshallhuffer4713 6 ай бұрын
28:04 - Billups: "Mark Twain's got a gun!"
@maxxjapan619
@maxxjapan619 6 ай бұрын
I say I did understand that reference, sir!
@adiuntesserande6893
@adiuntesserande6893 6 ай бұрын
"Did someone do an iconic Twain?" Yes. Samuel Clemens. And there are indeed surviving recordings.
@kw7378a1
@kw7378a1 5 ай бұрын
Pretty sure existing recordings are of an actor doing a Twain impression, not Twain himself.
@adiuntesserande6893
@adiuntesserande6893 5 ай бұрын
@@kw7378a1 There are a couple of wax cylinder records of him from his last days.
@kw7378a1
@kw7378a1 5 ай бұрын
@@adiuntesserande6893 no there aren't. Just Google it. Any wax cylinders of his voice were destroyed and no longer exist.
@kevinramsey417
@kevinramsey417 6 ай бұрын
I have a theory that every William Shatner impression is based on Kevin Pollack's William Shatner impression which was actually about how Shatner, at least when he plays Kirk always seems to.....pause in the middle of sentences.
@Philbert-s2c
@Philbert-s2c 6 ай бұрын
Was he the first guy to do it? I know his is probably the best known.
@Blimbus-Blombo
@Blimbus-Blombo 3 ай бұрын
It’s a good example of how impressions become Flanderized over time.
@Mike-42069
@Mike-42069 6 ай бұрын
Sometimes I like to think everyones life is just the universe trying to experience itself through us. All of our experiences now matter how exciting or mundane is still a unique experience and therefore important to the universes collective consciousness.
@stephenippolito9793
@stephenippolito9793 5 ай бұрын
Yes. William Gillette was supposed to be the "best" imitator of Mark Twain in the early 1930s. Love your channel and SFDebris website channel!!
@TALCOLMINTHEMIDDLE
@TALCOLMINTHEMIDDLE 6 ай бұрын
Wow you dropped this just a couple of hours after they played the episode on Pluto TV. Don't think I ever watched an episode and then one of your reviews in the same day
@river_acheron
@river_acheron 6 ай бұрын
That only happened to me once as well. ^_^
@owlsayssouth
@owlsayssouth 6 ай бұрын
Federation has a firm "no vampires" rule.
@s.henrlllpoklookout5069
@s.henrlllpoklookout5069 3 ай бұрын
The real reason why they carry phasers on every away mission & hide them in so many nooks and crannies aboard ship
@tipulsar85
@tipulsar85 6 ай бұрын
11 years later I can safely say, yes there is a version of Mark Twain that most go for. And that is from the one hander, "Mark Twain Tonight!" as perfected by Hal Holbook. By the time of Time's Arrow's airing, it had been on the air for a quarter century, and would take a decade more for it to be on home media. Why take that long? VHS was available, but still kind of expensive compared to DVD.
@daverapp
@daverapp 6 ай бұрын
3:34 It's weird seeing a clear shot of the uniforms from the back.
@KingoftheJuice18
@KingoftheJuice18 6 ай бұрын
This is my first viewing of your channel. Early on, your observations made me think of MST3K (surely a fine compliment), and then you go and mention them! I didn't catch all your references, but I especially appreciated the allusion to the Golem.
@invictus2578
@invictus2578 6 ай бұрын
In a previous episode, I think it might be season three somebody asked why Guinan and Picard are so close and Gan said I don’t know. Old man was nice to me once long ago.
@MKDumas1981
@MKDumas1981 6 ай бұрын
"Booby Trap". Geordi talking to Guinan about romance. She says she's attracted to bald men because a bald man was kind to her once, when she was hurting. I had a similar experience worth redheads.
@ravenwilder4099
@ravenwilder4099 6 ай бұрын
Why does Crusher's outfit include a pair of glasses? Dr. Crusher doesn't need glasses, and it's not like it's meant to disguise their appearance - no one in this time period knows who Beverly Crusher is.
@KingoftheJuice18
@KingoftheJuice18 6 ай бұрын
It's because everyone knows that smart people like nurses wear glasses...
@daviddiggens8841
@daviddiggens8841 6 ай бұрын
​@@KingoftheJuice18except Dr. Crusher is the least intelligent doctor in star fleet... So perhaps the glasses were a last resort to be taken serious in a time where people were more competent
@daviddiggens8841
@daviddiggens8841 6 ай бұрын
That was weird: YT removed an entire sentence from my comment and posted it anyway rather than deleting it. Is that new. I pointed out that Crusher at least is better than phlox with the idea of keeping species alive at least and used a word that began with G. Seriously is this a new algorithm?
@KingoftheJuice18
@KingoftheJuice18 6 ай бұрын
@@daviddiggens8841 Wait, don't tell me-and Janeway is the worst captain in Star Fleet (or maybe Burnham) 🤣
@alexneff
@alexneff 6 ай бұрын
Data's pimp hand is strong
@BrianS1981
@BrianS1981 6 ай бұрын
the Kansas City Chief gag has a whole different meaning these days.
@CybershamanX
@CybershamanX 6 ай бұрын
(3:25) A simple (somewhat exaggerated) nod of acknowledgement from Picard would have been sufficient. But, no... We get... "Type ARRR!!!" 😬
@MKDumas1981
@MKDumas1981 6 ай бұрын
This episode has uncredited writing from Hideo Kojima.
@tbeller80
@tbeller80 6 ай бұрын
Always bothered me since the episode first aired. Like Picard knows the difference between those components.
@zephyr8072
@zephyr8072 6 ай бұрын
@@MKDumas1981 Did you say nerd?
@daviddiggens8841
@daviddiggens8841 6 ай бұрын
​@@MKDumas1981I guess since it was his least convoluted and best written story to date he didn't want the credit
@MKDumas1981
@MKDumas1981 6 ай бұрын
@@daviddiggens8841: I heard he also wrote for "Evolution" and "The Best of Both Worlds, pt I".
@charlesvan13
@charlesvan13 Ай бұрын
"There is no way to avoid that it will end up in the cave." Data could just avoid Earth from now on, or even just avoid the cave.
@lordmontymord8701
@lordmontymord8701 6 ай бұрын
Haven't seen this one in a long time. There are many episodes of TNG i rewatch every couple of years, but these aren't among them, despite me liking it when i first saw it. I guess it was the way the alien menace was handled. The alien "nurse" simply stating that there's nothing the Enterprise could do to help them looks like a cheap way to say their violent solution was right - even though Riker and the others didn't know this. Yes, we were unable to find a solution with our limited ressources, so i'm sure this Federation with it's different - and in many fields except time travel advanced tech and knowledge - will be unable to help us.
@jercoxthealmighty
@jercoxthealmighty 6 ай бұрын
I think this episode might have been child me's introduction to Mark Twain, so maybe that's why I don't dislike the portrayal as much as others seem to. Plus of course child me thought randomly finding Data's head in an old mine shaft was the coolest thing ever, so my ability to critique this episode may be colored by nostalgia. :D
@gargamellenoir8460
@gargamellenoir8460 6 ай бұрын
Was there actually a controversy about that 5/10? Because it seems very fair to me.
@EebstertheGreat
@EebstertheGreat 6 ай бұрын
I think there are two approaches to time travel stories. The overwhelmingly popular one is where time travel is used as a McGuffin to get people into the wrong time. That's only good if the fun of different times coming together is worth the implausibility of the premise. "The Trouble with Tribbles" is a good example of an episode where it's definitely worth it even though it makes absolutely no logical sense. The shockingly unpopular one is the one makes time travel itself the subject of interest. Movies usually want to go a certain way, and time travel is just a thing they pack along the voyage, and it works however is needed in the story before leaving and tying a bow behind it. But sometimes there are stories _about_ time travel, where the way it works is important, and the conflict arises naturally from what that would imply. _Primer_ is an example of such a movie. Another is the Spanish film _Los cronocrímenes_ (English title: "Time Crimes"). This isn't always the best plot, but it's so rare that I find the industry's fear remarkable, like it's taboo to treat the favorite Sci Fi fixture seriously. I think part of the issue is in constructing the scenes. Producers have a feeling of a show progressing, and things have to appear in a certain order to make sense. Even though scenes in different places might not literally happen at the same time, we need events to occur in a certain order for the audience to understand. But in a properly-done episode involving time travel, that simply isn't the case. Some things will appear out of order not just chronologically but in causal order, because that's what time travel is all about. Nobody wants to do that, because it's confusing. But if you aren't doing that, then it isn't really time travel, is it? Despite the fluffy ending and confusing plot, I really think _Interstsellar_ did this better than any other high-budget movie recently. Just kind of by default, because it has no competition.
@JohnZyski
@JohnZyski 6 ай бұрын
I saw this as a kid, and I loved it.
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 6 ай бұрын
Guinan accepting time travel doesn't bother me all that much. She's lived a long life and TNG implies she's more than the average space traveler beyond just a longer life. Though if that's the angle they wanted to take for her not reacting with surprise to the concept, then she'd have needed to play a bit more coy over whether this is her first brush with time travel or if she's things just as weird.
@BronzeBoy520
@BronzeBoy520 6 ай бұрын
So did Picard season 2 ever explain why Guinean went from Guinean in the late 19th century to another woman in the 2020’s to than Guinean again?
@xp7575
@xp7575 6 ай бұрын
They had to retcon that to cover up the fact that they retconned the fact that Guinean met Picard nearly 2 centuries earlier and that she shouldn't have been confused about who he is
@WDC_OSA
@WDC_OSA 6 ай бұрын
It's because Whoopi got old and portly
@joethehero2
@joethehero2 6 ай бұрын
Wibbly wobbly timey whimey stuff.
@OtakuboyT
@OtakuboyT 6 ай бұрын
Who DIDN'T get face-lift in the 90s
@Blueskybuffalo
@Blueskybuffalo 6 ай бұрын
That future never happened because Picard came from the dystopia future. The TNG Guinan, not to mention that entire reality, did not exist. Picard and crew were the only constant, everything else got Q'd.
@toddfraser3353
@toddfraser3353 6 ай бұрын
One aspect I found lacking is the fish out of water trope with time travel. With Picard rather comfortably conning Mrs. Carmichael. Or Crusher easily taking a submissive role with the Doctor. Heck Geordie needing to walk around public with a cane.
@hariman7727
@hariman7727 6 ай бұрын
This episode is a little bit ridiculous, but also fun, and good. Mark Twain being that ridiculous caricature was pretty normal back then. EDIT: This episode is definitely one for the antics, and not so much for the villains. Ironically, I think it's STILL better than a lot of the recent series, which makes me sad.
@UniquelyCritical
@UniquelyCritical 2 ай бұрын
Congratulations on getting married, sir.
@luisostasuc8135
@luisostasuc8135 3 ай бұрын
You are correct about needing more time to process the consequences of the situation. There is definitely a way to have dealt with the idea of stealing human "souls" or energy or whatever. They were already far ahead of the viridians in that they waited until people were already dying. The next and best step would be to, while cloaked, ask people if they're okay with it. The complication would then be "is there an afterlife? is a soul really what is needed to pass from the physical realm into the afterlife? Would appealing to people convinced that their actions put them into a bad afterlife, and giving them the option of eternal torture or a short period of agony before complee annihilation, be morally justified? Whether or not the afterlife is real makes this even more grey: if it is real then the act of feeding on a soul would be a cointoss between good and bad, is it isn't real then it's a long discussion about giving people on the verge of a shite death a shot at a noble ending versus tricking them by appealing to their version of a good afterlife.
@charlesvan13
@charlesvan13 Ай бұрын
They wanted to used the Data head prop, they made for Data--Lore.
@MKDumas1981
@MKDumas1981 6 ай бұрын
37:36 - The late Gilbert Gottfried takes umbrage with that statement.
@AndrewLoukidis-jr2bp
@AndrewLoukidis-jr2bp 6 ай бұрын
Good thing the people checking out the cave new who Data was.
@fredrikcarlstedt393
@fredrikcarlstedt393 5 ай бұрын
A French Android at Mark Twains Home Court Reception .
@anthonymaslow798
@anthonymaslow798 6 ай бұрын
Hal Holbrook did a one man play where he played Mark Twain for 60 years in a row. He was very famous for it. I doubt he was cribbing the voice off of other actors who played the role.
@peepance1799
@peepance1799 4 ай бұрын
Enterprise guests include Abe Lincoln, and Mark Twain
@kevinrussell3501
@kevinrussell3501 6 ай бұрын
I think these are good episodes. And it led to one of the best but creepiest episodes of Srat Trek Online. It's really good
@jodieg6318
@jodieg6318 27 күн бұрын
Wouldn't The Amazing Maurice have his educated rodents preform the trick?
@BobSentell
@BobSentell 6 ай бұрын
Twain sounding like the Penguin got me.
@marcherwitch9811
@marcherwitch9811 6 ай бұрын
only one nite... saying monologues aren't how people speak... +laughs in used to work for the army+
@ImperatorPenguin
@ImperatorPenguin 6 ай бұрын
So stick to the impression done in 'The Adventures of Mark Twain', gotcha.
@xp7575
@xp7575 6 ай бұрын
16:49 missed opportunity for a D.O.C. reference 24:51 please do a whole episode in this voice 🥺
@ImaginaryTerrie3
@ImaginaryTerrie3 6 ай бұрын
PERHAPS TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TO D...oh ice cream!
@daviddiggens8841
@daviddiggens8841 6 ай бұрын
What? Is that a Joe Biden quote?
@rc8937
@rc8937 6 ай бұрын
Maybe they thought Data was East European (i.e. Slavic).
@MrRobot1984
@MrRobot1984 6 ай бұрын
The episode that proves Star Trek: Picard couldn’t happen. Guinan somehow aging backwards then forward again, no alien biology is going to square that circle.
@zephyr8072
@zephyr8072 6 ай бұрын
Star Trek Picard is Picard's fever dream as he lays dying in his vineyard from his bad brain syndrome and no one can convince me otherwise.
@MrRobot1984
@MrRobot1984 6 ай бұрын
@@zephyr8072 agreed, or he got blown up by Romulans in episode 1 and the rest was a trip through hell by Q.
@CybershamanX
@CybershamanX 6 ай бұрын
I'm so sad they used the Devidians in the recent book trilogy to bring to a close the decades-long continuity they had developed. I enjoyed it until near the end when Spock brought up his memory of his half-sister (after having never mentioning her before) battling an AI bent on destroying everything. 😕
@Zeithri
@Zeithri 6 ай бұрын
They also show up in Star Trek Online in case you wanted to blast them with some phaser fire.
@ArcaneSky
@ArcaneSky 6 ай бұрын
Yeah it was an unfortunate ending to what was a really good expanded universe.
@franohmsford7548
@franohmsford7548 6 ай бұрын
Since when have Trek novels been "canon"? They've always been explicitly NON-Canon! It's not like Star Wars where Lucas actually signed off on and made requirements of the writers of Legends Continuity! Or Doctor Who where the Virgin New Adventures, Missing Adventures and later BBC New Adventures featuring Paul McGann's Doctor actually tried to maintain a consistent Canon until Russell T. decided to ignore them and most of Classic Who along with them! Star Trek on the other hand is known for the various novels being completely contradictory and absolutely NOT Canon!
@CybershamanX
@CybershamanX 6 ай бұрын
@franohmsford7548 Who said anything about them being canon? They were simply a very enjoyable alternative continuity that was in real life forced by the higher-ups to change course, in fact, literally destroyed in-universe, to conform to the new shows. If you had been following it for the last few decades, it was really emotional. So, please politely take your ignorance and go elsewhere. 🙄
@franohmsford7548
@franohmsford7548 6 ай бұрын
@@CybershamanX Apart from the latter seasons of Discovery {I gave up on that about a 3rd to half the way through season 3} I've watched every single live action episode of Star Trek along with all the films. The only novel I ever read was Vonda McIntyre's "Enterprise" written in 1986 but I wouldn't have read it till at least 94 after her Star Wars novel "The Crystal Star" came out. I enjoyed that novel first time round but was put off buying any more Trek novels because they were explicitly NON-CANON! - It's got nothing to do with the "new shows" or any of the constant ret-conning post 2008! Trek novels have always been explicitly non-canon so why bring them up?
@FreeJaffa92
@FreeJaffa92 6 ай бұрын
Frankly a 5 out of 10 is being very generous.
@bradwolf07
@bradwolf07 6 ай бұрын
Part one was a good start, plenty of potential. But the second part was a let down.
@spencersholden
@spencersholden 6 ай бұрын
I think they know Gainan well enough to know she’s seen almost everything. What’s weirder: a godlike entity or a predestination paradox.
@MKDumas1981
@MKDumas1981 6 ай бұрын
Yes.
@mikegates8993
@mikegates8993 6 ай бұрын
Gainan is a one-woman Dragon Break, every possible version of herself exists at once, even if they totally conflict with each other.
@MKDumas1981
@MKDumas1981 6 ай бұрын
@@mikegates8993: Don't give the writers of Picard season 2 a pass!
@MKDumas1981
@MKDumas1981 6 ай бұрын
29:19 - Wereworf.
@Nasafalkas1
@Nasafalkas1 6 ай бұрын
Oh dear. Gainan and Data made Mark Twain come out of the closet.
@HilaryPea
@HilaryPea 6 ай бұрын
-Did you say the staff is called an "effidian"? I can't get the spelling correct to Google it. And the captioning is getting the spelling nowhere close to accurate. -"I like this, the fact that they have to come face-to-face ... with a demonstration of Data's mortality." It's alway nice to see you no-so-subtly acknowledge things like inside jokes or puns (intended or not) without actually having to elaborate. It's the little things that bring a smile and make us come up with our own funny verbal acknowledgements, instead. As usual, sometimes less is better. -"Hey, make her dress disappear!" Hahahahaha! -LMAO at Pimpin' Data! -"Pulling anals beads out of a sheep." OMG, I am dying here! -Damn Gramma, always ruining everything, including Free Ice Cream Day! -Not "... Dying in terror and presumably no ice cream ...", instead "... Dying in terror from lack of ice cream ...". Get it right next time! -Twain couldn't be any more American if he had an Uncle Sam hat with a feather in it named Macaroni. -Your acid Farewell of Twain was wonderfully acidic! -Guinan is an alien herself, visiting Earth for awhile. And, since she has otherworldly knowledge and wisdom, she could accept Data as not being human. It wouldn't take much to convince her, if he had to. Just open up a panel on his arm for her to see his circuitry and wiring. If she needed to believe it from the rest of his human/humanoid crewmates, I could understand she would/should be appropriately skeptical of such claims. Dyson was skeptical to believe Sarah Conner's claims, but he had no choice but to believe the Terminator's claims after skin was peeled back from an arm. There could be no doubt for a space-faring Guinan where Data is concerned. -And I agree that the writers could have skipped Mrs. Carmichael's arc, and instead, say why the hell the aliens were killing off human's for their soul energies. It's sad they all had to die. The fact that they were going after already sick homeless meant that they were trying to be merciful about it. People who were already in pain and dying. This meant that they might have been willing and eager to help the Enterprise crew find an alternative. They couldn't find an alternative, it doesn't mean that somebody else (like Data and his high intelligence) couldn't. I get that bad guys have to die or be incarcerated for a feel good storyline. But, the merciful deaths, and the fact that the aliens were weak and dying themselves. Then the fact that their reasons were never explained it is more bitter than sweet. Like they weren't given a chance to explain one character or redemption plot. It leave an empty feeling and too many strings untied at the end of the episode. And using genecide to stop them felt very unnecesary for something they were forced to do to survive. Yes, they killed, but in a circle of life kinda way. They still could have had a relieving solution at the end. {--- I wrote this before hearing your video-end summation. I am glad you agree with their death/genecide was too easy and out of character. -In your summation you mentioned Part 1 had too much for Part 2 to deal with. I was thinking of a Part 3 before you concluded to that idea. Then they would have had time for all the fluff without sacrificing the story, the plot, and mostly importantly, the conclusion. -Just your numerous descriptions of Twain, alone, make this review worth watching.
@alexneff
@alexneff 6 ай бұрын
The definitive shatner impression is from family guy
@MaryKirk-u6x
@MaryKirk-u6x 3 ай бұрын
Desiree Ways
@applewagon253
@applewagon253 6 ай бұрын
That mark Twain makeup is so bad!
@jankostrhun8725
@jankostrhun8725 4 ай бұрын
Believe me. Most of the Asia would largely prefer to be conquered by Brits and Yanks rather than Chinese.
@MrARock001
@MrARock001 6 ай бұрын
Has anyone ever fact-checked Twain's speech about Alfred Russel Wallace? I had always known of Wallace as the co-discoverer of evolution by natural selection. Was he ever quoted as "reaffirming" any creationist beliefs?
@jonathancurran5366
@jonathancurran5366 6 ай бұрын
Wallace did theorise that life was confined to Earth in a paper replying to those claiming the canals spotted allegedly on Mars were signs of an advanced Martian civilisation.
@MrARock001
@MrARock001 6 ай бұрын
@@jonathancurran5366 cool, thanks!
@wilkoufert8758
@wilkoufert8758 6 ай бұрын
Strangest episode of NewWho ever. But it holds my heart by finally revealing Riker as a genocidal villain
@tristanmccann6838
@tristanmccann6838 5 ай бұрын
19:37
@robertpearson5410
@robertpearson5410 26 күн бұрын
Twain's voice is irritating and that probably leads to a more negative analysis of his performance than warranted. If he had toned it down a little bit, it probably would have been fine. I never like it when the time travel stories dredge up a legendary character from that time period for a cameo. Aha! So that's how London started his literary career. Who knew?
@lynngreen7978
@lynngreen7978 6 ай бұрын
So Lore is Left Brained and Data is Right Brained
@MKDumas1981
@MKDumas1981 6 ай бұрын
Type R?
@Renegade2786
@Renegade2786 6 ай бұрын
If Lore is Left Brain and Data is Right Brain, does that mean that Soong is Maximillion Cortex?
@john1701q
@john1701q 6 ай бұрын
You rated it too high.
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