A Muslim and Jewish girl's bold poetry slam

[@MrDemon3434]

Only if youtube was filled with more of this and not hate and racism. This was awesome

[@dough_ha]

+MrDemon3434 IKR!

[@saeedvazirian]

Hate is not wrong when it is directed at the right target.

[@BirdofHerm3s]

Yeah! We should point it at americans the hypocrites! Hiroshima and Nagasaki , Yet they dare to call the minority of islam which commits extremism the representitives of islam!

[@zain.alhashemi6220]

i wanna point out that the people that are killing people have no religion, i believe we are all the same no matter what :)

[@davidwright2332]

zain.alhashemi that doesnt make sense. its the exact oposit, its the people with reliogion that are killing other people, because of their religion.

[@therealprincessjasmine6930]

How does this beautiful poem that the world desperately need to hear not have over a million view?

[@AmalShookari]

The real princess jasmine because it wasn't sang by beyonce or written by Politician or DJ by DJ Khalid its a sad world we live in

[@amanipatel9524]

The real princess jasmine agree, why isn't this on the trending page?

[@berniceburg6060]

The real princess jasmine.

[@Nico.Robin7]

Because our world is corrupted and people would rather listen to fake news then see the reality.

[@yourcommentgota2146]

It got more views :)

[@maximilian420]

This is so incredibly powerful

[@andrew_owens7680]

Madi Dawn And I hope the voices of hatred find it incredibly scary!

[@elinorbrunner4669]

Max Corgan I know! It's so beautiful.

[@saineykrubally6125]

Powerful

[@muhammedamin5399]

I am Muslim and that was brilliant 2 people standing up for the truth #respect

[@roisapark362]

Jack Kollhoff did you really to put that cuz they're only tell you people who racial profiling

[@aminar9044]

These girls were amazing. Everyone should hear this message.

[@keanekumar8843]

+Amina R tru

[@tarunafr]

So tru

[@qarandoonjararaawi1995]

yess my sister

[@mubarak4856]

l'm Muslim man I respect all Religions.

[@lightzpy8049]

+ranviil rashka I'm a Jew and i respect every religion, have wish you a happy life cousin.

[@lightzpy8049]

appie D :) it make me happy seeing Muslims and Jew together, its politics that makes problem not the people, have a nice day :)

[@snoeshxoxo]

+moon moon Ugh well, there are more religious people than none. And believe me, a lot of people dont like you atheists, weirdos

[@holdshiftt2run308]

+moon moon there is always an atheist leaving a comment like that.

[@jouryhammad1545]

same

[@NoNameThoughtOfYet]

Hell Yeah!, THIS Is The World I Want To See..... Jews, Muslims And Christians Alike Coming Together And Living In Peace....... I'm A Catholic Turned Atheist But I Respect And Admire People Of ALL Religious Backgrounds.... So Salam U Alaykum, Shalom Aleichaim And Peace Be With You :-) From Ireland

[@andrew_owens7680]

M. Cloak THEN MAKE THE WORLD THAT WAY. Otherwise we're all going to drive off a cliff of hatred.

[@Planetside2Simon8989]

+Andrew_Owens dafuq xD hes not a politician

[@halimatoubah49bah54]

your right that's what I want too

[@saeedvazirian]

So, so naive...

[@flop2792]

YES I believe in secularism too :)

[@Obsessedandstuff]

im so happy these girls made this poem ! im an Israeli girl and i feel the same way, i just want us to end this never ending conflict and live in peace.

[@rana6979]

Muslim here, I want this to end too :c

[@koran_4e271]

I am a Muslim and I love Jewish ✌️✌❤️

[@saeedvazirian]

"I am an Israeli..." Get the fuck out.

[@ilanagardi2822]

Saeed Vazirian Sorry last time I checked, negative racists aren't welcome here..

[@XX-tq1oe]

Islam Ahmed shame on yoy traitor

[@303Concepts]

I'm a jew, and I respect all religions

[@naomishofner3529]

+Ray Khan Blaming a single person based off your views of a general cultural isn't how the world should work.

[@naomishofner3529]

+Ray Khan obviously not what you're doing. they respect all religions whereas you do not.

[@naomishofner3529]

+Ray Khan excuse me.

[@naomishofner3529]

+Ray Khan You're a creep. Back off.

[@303Concepts]

rollingklouds ?

[@RSTAR2009]

I'm I the only one crying here?....I'am a Hebrew and I fell in love with a Muslim girl.

[@muslimturkislam1396]

Ramon LeBlanc Harts Iam crying too...

[@Nico.Robin7]

When you say 'we' ...speak for yourself :/

[@lindareed8265]

You're not the only one tearing up. How can anyone believe in God's will and love but think there's anything wrong when two people fall in love? Isn't love the whole point? I'm atheist, and I love that you two found love.

[@aiifaa_821]

i am muslim but fell in love with non muslim 😢😢 what i should do ....

[@melaninqueen5344]

Ramon LeBlanc Harts no u arent

[@luisagutierrez6998]

This made me cry. So powerful, empathetic and understanding. So humble. So brave of these two girls to do this. Ma'Sha'Allah

[@life-ms5kw]

(:

[@gojo1970]

Hi Did you fall down to Earth from Heaven? 😎

[@gojo1970]

Don't know if anyone has ever told you... You look......

[@MissSally95]

This is awesome! I am agnostic/atheist & I hope that one day we'll be able to coexist with one another. Sadly no one living on this planet right now will be alive to see it. But we have to engage ourselves for it- for the children of the future!!

[@xio1201]

+Kratos actualy your wrong the biggest act of terrorisme has been made by ... The usa Why? Ohh the atomique bombe hirochima

[@cantulan3439]

Spread positivity ❤️

[@_curtis]

Sally McCaffrey I agree but you cant be agnostic and athiest 😂😂

[@MissSally95]

Curtis Grove You can. :) There's actually a wikipedia article about it.

[@naimanura]

Sally McCaffrey wht do u swear on when u go to court or as a wittness? Just wondering

[@shrekmickey4ever]

good job girls . you all can be friends . not every palestines and jewish hate each other .

[@mayazaman41]

Nice

[@shrekmickey4ever]

Maya Zaman good job

[@soybeans2734]

Kinda weird cuz your user is that..

[@saeedvazirian]

No, but you can't blame Palestinians hating israel.

[@blackebony554]

That’s true. Normal Palestinians and Israelis have nothing against each other. It’s those people driven my extremism, politics and what nots that hate

[@MinxLaura123]

this is great and made me emotional. bless u both hugs

[@balasubramaniamp260]

test Tamil moving

[@mihaadahmed9623]

same

[@lindseyclair921]

I'm sorry, why is this not viral??

[@SKARA101]

Lindsey Clair because it is pure trash, these two girls are trying to unite 2 ideologies that hate one another, that's why

[@elinorbrunner4669]

I don't know! It really should be.

[@serenityrose2594]

Yes, but two ideologies that SHOULD NOT hate each other. Were you listening to the video?

[@Mario01243]

Peace and love is bad business for weapon manufacturers.

[@resilientwriter]

Perfect example of two young women making the choice to be a positive change instead of just sitting there doing nothing. I wish more people with kind hearts would find the courage inside to stand up. Amazing poem.

[@ninamoskowitz6478]

I am Jewish AND Muslim, and this was...a doorway to a million emotions. Thank you to these girls. Thank you.

[@ninamoskowitz6478]

+KhaatGuy my father is Jewish and my mother is Muslim and so I am of both faiths.

[@ninamoskowitz6478]

+KhaatGuy both.

[@ninamoskowitz6478]

+KhaatGuy both.

[@haltdiefresse1185]

Black Swordsman Guts not every Muslim prays 5 times in a day!

[@life-ms5kw]

(:

[@briannastarling-ward4949]

This was a seriously beautiful poem. Wow, I am honestly blown away. What intelligent people and what a powerful message they convey. I wish there were more people like them in life.

[@4kinmad]

two smart people got together look Beyond religion these are baby steps to peace in the Middle East one of the most smartest and intellectual poems I've seen yet

[@karimahmed3319]

videos like this one makes me happy . i'm an arab muslim guy. i do rly wanna have jewish friends. i want to know more about their culture. unfortunately , our media wants us to hate Israel and Jewish . but here i'm i've absolutely no problem with jewish people. cuz we're all humans in the first place. we're all living on the same planet. we're equal . for me , it doesnt matter if ur jewish , christian , or anything else. i see u as a human being . beliefs dont define people. as i've mentioned before i'm muslim and it doesnt mean that i'm perfect or that i'm a terrorist . i hope oneday we could put an end to this stupif conflict between us . we're living in such an amazing world . why cant we just live in peace !!

[@XX-tq1oe]

Karim Ahmed why do you want jewish friends ? shame on you!!! they dont wanna be your friend......

[@karimahmed3319]

Muhammad Omer "shame on me !!" dude . we only live once. plus we r nt living alone on this planet. u've to have friends from all over the world and it doesnt matter if they are jewish / christians / muslims / atheists etc. as long as this person is a good person so why nt ? . talking with people who dont have the same beliefs as u will help u understand the real meaning of life and pease.

[@XX-tq1oe]

Karim Ahmed it does matter when jewish soldiera kill innocent little babies (muslim babies) the rest of jews r like whatever (ok not all but still enough) they have HATE for us every 1 knows it but you. wake up lad wake up.

[@MrMikkyn]

Karim Ahmed This is so beautiful! There are a lot of similarities: Animal Slaughter is done a similar way: Shechita for Jews and Ḏabīḥah and Muslims. Similar dietary restrictions both don't consume pork. Jews pray three times a day, Muslims pray five times a day. Muslims wear a thobe, Jews have the Tallit, Muslims have Kaaba, Jews have Tefillin both are cubed shaped. Both Jews and Muslims have ritual handwashing, Jews have netilat yadayim, Muslims have Wudu. Also a lot of similar words: Wisdom is Hokmah in Hebrew, and Hikmah in Arabic. There are others. Good luck on learning more about Jewish culture and people!

[@karimahmed3319]

The Infinity Light thank you :D

[@schlachtfilms7179]

All religions should unite. People are generally good. People should unite against a common enemy, evil, paedophiles, homophobes, murderers, wife beaters, fascists, Down with evil.

[@saeedvazirian]

These are not common enemies you idiot XD

[@saf-wanadame5828]

To fight evil.....we must fight its sources.........i think evil wouldn't exist without the existence of........"DESIRES".

[@XX-tq1oe]

Saf-wan Adame to fight evil we must become evil..but then we'll be evil.. actually forget i said anything

[@j6184]

You understand that a lot of religions promote homophobia and murder and wife beating right?

[@XX-tq1oe]

J Taylor naa. r u jamie taylor? from st albans . small world if so lol

[@christinebaker5946]

As a poetry slam teacher in NJ, I just want to say congratulations ladies! This is beautiful, and well performed. :)

[@emmapociejowski6184]

I'm Cristian yet I respect both Jewish and Muslim people and there religion

[@grippped1375]

1:00 Wait, it's the current year? FUCK! I am like 70 years off with my politics! Thanks for letting me know, damn!

[@angel127_]

I love you so much lmaoooo XD

[@ethanweisman3577]

I heard this once in fifth grade. It’s insane how this hits different four years later

[@nelsonasoh]

Who is watching this 2023? We arrived late, guys. Let's do better in the future. It's lovely to see these amazing girls connect and talk about what connects us all.

[@Bear-Jew]

Even more relevant today. It's great. Thank you. I hope you both are doing well 8 years later.

[@sulaymawerghemmi2872]

this is a great performing and a peace msg . this is who we should be ... to forgive and to not forget that we are one humankind

[@Hamsa4375]

this was beyond the amazing beside i am amuslim guy who love all the people around the world to be in peace eating together laughing together girls wish you the best

[@lilycortes3767]

Daan Fann wish more people were like you

[@SKARA101]

Daan Fann ever heard of Qur'an , you should go to a muslim country where they will teach the fuck out of you with everything about the Qur'an

[@worldofari9023]

extremely proud of women (especially these poets) and how we've all come together. these two girls had a strong message and demanded to be heard. love it.

[@shopobjetdart]

Thank you for jointly composing your reason and compassion to speak to the broken understanding within us all...

[@emilyshapiro2756]

This is seriously my favorite poem. I come from a family of proud Jews who have opinions on Muslims/Palestinians. I’m American and don’t know a great deal about the conflict, but I think it should all come down to acceptance, regardless of who threw the first stone and what side someone is on. Our world is divided in so many ways. This is such a beautiful poem that puts how I feel into words.

[@kennethlukerainfordtheeter9653]

Genius ladies....I tap my heart to you

[@nana-iv3si]

That was beautiful. Imagine if we all showed each other love and respect despite our differences ❤️❤️

[@schlachtfilms7179]

Religion divided you. Education united you.

[@bomousaa]

religion and education are different things.

[@bossninja1979]

We need more people like this in the world!!

[@hedyachibane8867]

love this so much! #WereAllOne

[@courtneyjeffries390]

It's beautiful that these 2 from a different background come together as one on the same stage.

[@marlenemcgovern808]

Beautiful 😊 Happy Holidays everyone. Peace, love and blessings to all 🌍

[@tiffanyduke8903]

I just returned from Jerusalem and hearing this makes me so happy. This video gives me hope that things will get better

[@cheaffsdeath8586]

I wish they made this in 2017 and bash Donald trump

[@caleb-ct5vi]

There is nothing racist about Donald Trump at all. You guys just hate him because he is doing things how they are suppose to be. I want to stop paying taxes so you damn kids cant go to a public school and be brainwashed by some liberal professor that is trying to spread Marxism. America was built on the way Trump runs things and you guys trying to change America to something new that wont work.

[@user-tv9zb9th8o]

@@caleb-ct5vi he is very racist. He wants to bann muslims from usa and once jimmy fallon asked him why he didn't even have a proper reason. he said many many times that he hates black people for no reason. and goddammit, look at his twitter account ! 😭🤦🏻

[@liammckenna4131]

@Rosa Lila how does Jimmy Fallon asking Trump about his reasons for wanting to keep Muslims out of the U.S. (which he doesn’t) prove anything?

[@anyciaotey4177]

caleb 1823 us damn kids that go to public school are taught to respect everyone and their beliefs. Donald Trump is the opposite he was a member of the kkk he tears family’s apart with no remorse he is disgusting.

[@nataliebasin5966]

@@caleb-ct5vi Donald Trump is a racist and a fucking idiot. I know for a fact he hates the fact I exist and I hate him right back.

[@aj_san3788]

I was so afraid to look into the comments but was pleasantly surprised at the lack of hate comments

[@imansaleh822]

co-existing. that's the secret of unity.

[@saeedvazirian]

So a murderer must coexist with the murdered.

[@mariorizkallah5383]

What a brain dead philosophy

[@polhi4964]

I'm an Israeli Jewish girl and I cried watching this video! You are the future.

[@serenityserenity5864]

This is beautiful!!!

[@ilyrocky]

I usually don't cry but for some reason this made me cry

[@RSTAR2009]

😥❤️Thanks for the comment likes. I'm proud of my German-Jewish ancestry and my LOVE for a Muslim woman.

[@miali9393]

I'm four years too late but it was a fabulous performance. Wishing those two girls great achievements in their poetic ambitions.

[@tasparzeora2809]

I'm a Muslim I respect all religions and people

[@aven_snow]

Wow. This is a really important message, especially now.

[@aisha8443]

I'm an atheist, but I respect all religions

[@creaturetapped]

My best friend's a Muslim. She plays video games all day and makes non-stop terrible puns that are so stupid they make you laugh a little too loud in class. One of the best people I know

[@saz3642]

I legit cried. Thank you.

[@YasaminMusic]

so powerful. Im so glad youtube finally recommended something worthy

[@TunaDogGaming]

fighting against stereotypes are a pipe dream

[@codyshi4743]

This is a great speech. I greatly respect their religion and the religion of others. I really hope for both peace between both sides. From a Buddhist.

[@MrCmon113]

Their religions say you should be enslaved and/or murdered.

[@atilla-cevher2541]

Peace in the World Love you All 🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@crystalchen5641]

Breath-taking. This video was from three years ago, but this is truly phenomenal. Thank you.

[@zo9690]

This is beautiful!!! ❤❤❤❤❤

[@heathermcbane5971]

Amazing! I wish more people realized that regardless of your differences that you are more alike than you realize if you stop allowing other things to determine who you are alike and should be friends with and who you shouldn't.

[@tamchee9389]

Favorite video on KZbin peace ✌️

[@nabster1299]

I am sooo proud of u guys for deciding to do this it makes me happy that there are people like u in the world👭👏

[@drameliacase5587]

I LOVE THIS!!!

[@lizzie101msp2]

Hey, look at me. I'm in 2017....and we still need this.

[@finnamonbun3593]

MAN HUMMIS *IS* GOOD!

[@lolaspearso]

I'm an Arab, Kuwaiti and Muslim and I really do respect all religions including my "Technically" cousins the Jews! I respect you and I love your culture guys. PEACE TO THE WORLD.

[@Royalbrettania]

very very moving ! we are all people all humans - ENOUGH WAR already ! IShalom from an ex south african living in the South of Israel

[@dreamdarts6401]

how are you an ex south African?

[@zy3884]

Royalbrettania how r u ex south african?

[@pilgriminprose9217]

This is touching. You're both bold ladies. I can only imagine there may have been backlash from family members at the onset of this poem's conception, but you met up and practiced and performed and made your point on stage... Well done!

[@truehaart]

I applaud you - God bless you, and unite the hearts of people - division, hate and bigotry are Satan's tools to bring loss to mankind

[@kutukutilk]

I'm Muslim and I love every single religion. I have friends who are Christian, Hindu and Buddhist. And I hope I make Jewish friends also in the future. Doesn't matter from which country or which religion you come from, everyone is equal.

[@grace-dc4wh]

incredible

[@faithsimmerman5352]

this poem and these comments just made me so happy. I have a lot of hope for us I know one day things will be better for everyone.

[@kosua4678]

This was beautiful :)

[@cynthia8117]

im Jewish and i love Muslims. I respect every religion

[@tukkinum]

Whoo, I love my Arab hummus!

[@irisbrill9643]

I love my hummus on my latkes. Let's be friends

[@irisbrill9643]

Thank you for your valiant effort at an imput on our conversation. Now, kindly leave.

[@tukkinum]

Iris Brill That doesn't sound too bad lol.

[@ali_sparks]

Omg why do I say hummus the same way lmaoo such a powerful message!

[@fatherfisto]

My english teacher really tryna get me to analyze this yo 💀💀 this shit sucks

[@chiqtheequeen]

Both painful and powerful to witness. We are living in such challenging times. May G-d guide us towards love, peace and global justice.

[@leralle5454]

I'm an agnostic boy and I believe regardless of religion come to peace instead of war

[@thelittlegirl5379]

No one is born hating anyone. You girls are brave to stand up for peace 💗

[@PrincZali]

its not about muslims and jews..its about Palestinians and Zionists

[@RoseyRose20]

I'm a Muslim, and I have plenty of friends that I love who aren't Muslim. This was so beautiful, by the way. It made me feel so warm and happy. 😆😂

[@crazydude9476]

Im proud to be a straight white male

[@billy3114]

Me to

[@wowso4]

This was so beautiful, those two girls are so smart.

[@schlachtfilms7179]

I believe in zeus, and i like all religions.

[@lexusamar]

Both beautiful girls, thank you for giving us a window into your hearts and letting us see how much love and respect you have. Bless you both ❤

[@holdshiftt2run308]

I see they both are oversensitive. I am a Muslim, but when you are hurt with childish insults, you are weak. The prophet and hiscompanions were pelted with stones and some were even laid on beds of hot coals and dragged across the sand. Bilal was left to die under a heavy stone. People used to throw trash on them and you are complaining because some one said "go home".

[@angel127_]

It's just a poem.

[@Aj-sn1dp]

To tell someone that they are weak to be hurt by something you classify as "childish" is ignorant. Your definition of childish is not someone else's. Your opinion on what insult seems childish is not someone else's. To be told to go home does not mean they don't have a struggle to accompany it. To be told to go home does not mean that they have not experienced violence in any form. To degrade someone because of their feelings when you do not know their past is ignorant. Your Muslim life does not account for anyone else's and the history of violence you talk about hasn't gone anywhere. To tell a person they are weak because of the way they feel when someone says they need to go "home" as if this isn't their home and they weren't born and raised and lived a life of discrimination here already without you telling them their feelings are wrong *is in fact wrong*. Your feelings of some schoolyard insult being "weak" is a lifetime of pure and utter hell for another. Cause it doesn't matter what you think. What matters is that you don't seem to understand that trivial or not, words do hurt. They hurt a lot. They clearly hurt more than you will ever know. So next time don't go around making statements made from your assumptions which are made from ignorance.

[@michiko7705]

+Misha Novak THIS!!!! omg, thank you so much for saying this.

[@Aj-sn1dp]

Michiko No probs lol. Just tired of people thinking that their feelings are the only feelings.

[@lollipopfop9965]

Seems more like your prophet had no objection to pelleting other people with stones, or lying to them, or sentencing them to death. And don't tell me to study more of your religion, the more I study it objectively, the less I like. Can you explain that? Why have non Muslims who are just as Arabic as Muslims, and whose families have lived in the Middle East for centuries been driven out by you.

[@anniegomez3192]

This is absolutely beautiful. I love this so much. Yes, we do need to face this discrimination with our heads held high and with no regret that what we are doing, is wrong. For we have the authority to withstand that and we will not fall. Thank you ladies. You were very, very hopeful for this dark world we live in. You are lights in our dark world. Let us keep this love. Let us keep being that.

[@shay8518]

i don't agree to so many of the points they were trying to convey, as a muslim girl who lives pretty close to palestine and has seen how it all started and how many people israelis have killed you cannot compare to what Palestinians have done, especially how they were forced out of their country in such an inhumane way. i never get into politics especially on youtube, but i was aggravated by how unfair the comparison was.

[@noahzev]

Shay Yaz Check the whole history. Israel was attacked by multiple countries at the same time, and though they gave back some land for peace, they decided to keep Jerusalem. They're small enough as it is and are constantly being attacked by enemies. Don't let the media be your main source of information, lest you be ignorant with a blind eye. Smh

[@suryadhiez6488]

+Shay Yaz I'm afraid that guy got nothing in his brain

[@sana-rx3nm]

+Shay Yaz wait, do you have internet in palestine... just wondering

[@suryadhiez6488]

Aisyah Nabila the fact that she could drop comment here, I guess yes there's internet connection there...

[@sana-rx3nm]

Surya Dhiez hahaha omg what kind of question did i just ask... I was just a bit surprised so I was asking the obvious

[@holdshiftt2run308]

okay is see you put your friendship above Islam.

[@arielle250]

good

[@holdshiftt2run308]

arielle250 No

[@arielle250]

friendship> religion

[@arielle250]

actually everything > religion

[@holdshiftt2run308]

arielle250 Islam is not a religion.

[@hartinggarth]

I am a fervent Messianic born again who was introduced to a little Islam by father and 16 years of Judaism by my Kabbalic therapist who was like a father and uncle to me and recommended me law school.This is so way cool;it made me want to cry and pray my future daughters will see life this way we they grow up to be professional adults.

[@NwoSaturn]

I stand with israel

[@acacioflorentino8089]

Tyrone What an evil person. Try telling that to a cop in ANY civilized country to see what will be the result. Evil people love to use the Internet and anonymity to spread their sadness to others without being afraid of any consequences. A bunch of cowards and immoral people. Nothing else.

[@emzbreezy313]

lol you fools missed the point of this video #standwithhumanity

[@norah9663]

+Aron Borkenau fuck you, i stand with PALESTINE

[@elliefieldhouse2459]

I stand with both because both are United States of America citizens and so they are both my people.

[@scarlettwolf3903]

So do I, but I'm not against Palestine I just want my people to have a country and be safe. 💙

[@rayvoncollins5929]

Working so hard on creating awareness for woman like you both but we're in 2022 so I feel this to my core

[@corazannasplaylists]

I'm a christian, so this was really cool to hear

[@tessamsha8265]

We need more of this to start making a difference to our world only we can decide what the future holds for us I ask for one thing and that is world peace it is possible

[@eeyore1113]

This was a very powerful and inspirational poem. Good job girls. Keep up the good work. The world needs more people like you around. Two thumbs up.

[@angeloligo4605]

This is my most favorite spoken poetry. well done girls I love this. I love this Spoken Poetry because it shows that no matter which religion you are you are still a human and is equal with others.

[@Thatchaoscreator]

This made my day and is such a strong positive message even now in 2019 five years into the future

[@user-tv9zb9th8o]

We need that especially nowadays, i mean the things that medias tell the world is so incredibly stupid. Unfortunately

[@nohailaelbarike6635]

I just love it. ❤I'm a muslim too, and I RESPECT everyone, regardless their religion. I hope peace to the whole world.

[@juliwitham7343]

It is 2020 and nothing has changed.