A new TPMS. A second attempt at a review.

A new TPMS. A second attempt. This time it went a bit better than the last.
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[@Simon_R]

I have the same Masten TPMS from Dig and use it with a camper trailer. Worked flawlessly over 18,000km through the NT and WA. Was really helpful to be able to keep an eye on tyre pressure and temps over the corrugated roads as well as the blacktop. The only small thing is that with 1000s of km of corrugated roads (Tanami, Gibb, Karijini) with external sensors the sensor units rubbed against the alloy wheels and marked the wheels. No problem at all with the external sensors themselves being durable, the wheel itself was worn away a bit rather than the plastic sensor.

[@mattdavies3023]

I really enjoy watching your product review videos. It amazes me that some of these companies are not involving you at an earlier stage to provide expert appraisal before launching these products. 👌

[@GriffinHooper]

I have been excited to see part 2!

[@keithhaycraft3765]

Very informative, thank you Andrew.

[@SkyrockExpeditions]

Hi Andrew, very good review. I really like your channel and your passion for Land Cruisers and overlanding. You actually inspired me to start documenting my off-road trips too ;-). Greetings from Germany!

[@glmaguire]

Thanks for the review, I’m in the market for a TPMS and had this one on the shortlist

[@maxcole1961]

Andrew, great information again, you say it as it is, thank you

[@wyattoneable]

Thank you Andrew. We can always count on you a proper review.

[@arsalanjamalfar]

Excellent video and great idea for an internal system

[@garymac8439]

You just reviewed the exact TPMS that we use for our motorhome and Jeep. As you probably know, the Jeep has an internal TMPS and we have overridden it to allow for airing down and not having the dash lit up. However, when we tow our Jeep behind the motorhome, we have no way of monitoring our Jeep pressures and temps, nor did our RV come with TPMS. So, we researched and decided on the system you just reviewed, but branded under a different name in the US. (EEZTire). I agree with the assessment that internal s better for off-road, but this system is simple and very reliable. We have almost 10K miles on ours without any faults and with 3 tire saves. We caught 2 tires on our RV and one on the Jeep (while towing home) that were going down slowly. It caught them very quickly and no damage to the tire, rim or vehicle was done. So, although the external sensors are not optimal, you at least have found a reliable system... IMHO.

[@andrewhallett-patterson9778]

The TPMS utilised on our mine site vehicles is part of a tablet based driveline monitoring system produced by Siemens. The dash mounted unit allows detailed remote monitoring of over 300 parameters and fully programmable shutdown policies. The TPMS monitoring allows orginal tyre/rim combination installation date to be embedded in each individual tyre, allowing logging of pressure variations, punctures, tyre rotation, kilometres travelled, internal air, rim and tyre temperatures, when the tyre has lost grip and case flex. The last two parameters are complexed AI algorithms that have the ability to learn. We are currently testing a AI systems for tread wear, which is showing significant accuracy. All significant impacts within and outside of the parameters are permanently logged until erased and/or tyre reaches end of life. Not bad for a fully expandable system that is available for civilian purchase. Currently fitted to my 6x6 mine spec Landcruiser Ute and my wife's Toyota Camry. 👍👍🇦🇺

[@davidwoods80]

Despite ASPW's claim that he hates computers on his vehicles, I think that the Siemens system would be his absolute wet dream.

[@mountainconstructions]

Been waiting for this one.....

[@MrAttilaRozgonyi]

Hi Andrew, a little off topic, but at 5:29, what brand are your orange & grey boxes you have along your workbench/where did you get them? Many thanks!!

[@markmaier2503]

The irony that you said “I’m no technological dunce” followed by the text on the screen about sound difficulties, made me laugh.

[@4xoverland]

new mic on a new mount, couldn't handle the corrugations.

[@markmaier2503]

4xoverland I get it. I just moved our production into a new studio and voice-over that we did last month doesn’t match the new content so our editor is pulling his hair out! In any case, keep up the great content. You’ve inspired me to get our family involved in overlanding from the mountains of North Carolina.

[@km4fsi827]

One standard option i love on my new Tacoma, the real time tire monitor with all 4 shown on the screen at the same time.

[@prepperjonpnw6482]

My Ram 4x4 has the same system. It’s just one choice out of a dozen or so on the screen which is located between the speedometer and the rpm scale.

[@1FiftyOverland]

This is a common option now. My 2015 f150 displayed all tires pressures in real time.

[@TroutWest]

That system has been available since the 90s

[@jimbojones2457]

This product seems to be a lot better than the ARB one! Nice big screen too. Might look into it thanks Andrew! Love your reviews.

[@emu4wdadventures631]

You mention temperature is a cause of damage, which I agree with but what temperature is the threshold? Steve

[@jeremyfitzwater8413]

Looks identical to the cheap unit I bought on eBay 4 years ago. Still working fine. I’ve replaced the sensor batteries and you have to be careful the tiny rubber seals in the sensors don’t come loose and fall out when you undo the sensor. I’ve also done some tough tracks with them and crossed the Simpson Desert. Couldn’t be happier with the product.

[@sonictech1000]

I for one would like to see how these external units hold up for you.

[@Queensizemusic]

Thank you for the guidance @4xoverland

[@4xoverland]

my pleasure sir.

[@Jin-Ro]

I watch 90% true crime videos. No idea why this was recommended. But I learnt something, so thumbs up :)

[@rjl110919581]

THANK YOU FOR OTHER DETAIL VIDEO

[@markjennings2315]

Internal units are great until the fitter at the tyre repair/replacement workshop swipes you sensor into oblivion despite being warned!! Then you have the hassle of the fault warning until the expensive replacement arrives and is refitted, then wont synch with your system and generates another fault light... it just goes on ....and on .....and on:-(

[@alexbrown1995]

I agree entirely with your point of view. I've used both internal and external systems and the internal system, although more costly and awkward to fit and maintain, is way more durable. In addition, it actually monitors the internal temperature of the tyre.... When I used external sensors, you could see around the valve stem where the sensor had been hitting the rim, presumably caused by flexing of the valve stem due to the weight of the sensor. Internal is the only way to go if you are doing serious off road work, IMO.

[@CharlesinGA]

I gotta ask, are you still using this product in some form or another? I am looking for something for my trailer/caravan.

[@mikehallgarth2625]

I found the brass covered aluminium locknuts quickly corroded on to the valve !!!! Used the system without the locknuts for 2 years now and they remain tight.

[@haanjamiis]

I wonder how the do in salted roads? I had some metal caps that corroded/oxidized so strongly, that I had to replace the tyre valve stem on 3 wheels.

[@theexperimentalcqdx4208]

But Andrew, is it a hassle to change the battery if the sensor is inside the tyre ?

[@barmynick5027]

👍 thanks Andrew 4 vid telling it as it is as usual .....

[@steveridout6614]

Hi Andrew follow your videos regularly , just wondering how you are fairing with any other TPMS you have been running lately? I am about to embark on quite a lot of touring (towing a camper) and looking at a solid good TPMS. I was wondering if you have come across a system which has multiple settings i.e road , gravel , sand which you can flick to with settings you can plug in?

[@diydad6705]

What temperature is considered "overheating"?

[@JFWGarage]

Really wish I could of met you Andrew when you were in Australia, could really use some good advice on what type of things I should of take on my trip around Australia for a year and a half maybe you could make a video about it Cheers Jordan 🇦🇺

[@pim1234]

Love this channel, and I don't even have a 4x4 ...

[@BA-fm8qd]

How do you handling the tire balancing?Do you balance it without/with tpms? I was doing it without and were driving in holiday on highway and tires vibrating quite well so now its in the cellar again...

[@digoptions]

these sensors do not require rebalancing after install

[@philg2468]

That Masten system comes under multiple brands - looks identical to Safety Dave and Sidewinder. I've had the Sidewinder for a few years - been perfect. Much better than the tyredogs I'd used for many years before that. Batteries last over 12 months. A sensor got nicked - but you can buy a replacement. Or if you decide to tow - just add 2 or 4 more sensors as it can take up to 22 of them.

[@johnbaker4641]

Hi Andrew, I don't know if you already have this information but the Botswana Parks have now banned the use of drones. The new signs do say that a permit can be requested (sorry I should have taken a photo of the sign) fro the department of wild life.

[@cameronhart415]

Were you still gonna built a 6x6 cruiser ? Or did I miss it. ?

[@takayama1638]

To me, best thing is good tire gauge and good compressor.

[@IWillNotBeLabelled]

The TPMS will let you know when a tyre is deflating. Unless you are stopping very often and checking the pressures you are not going to achieve what a TPMS can. It's good you have a good compressor, but you will also need spares, as you could need them after the tyre that was deflating is now wrecked.

[@photohiker01]

We have the original ARB system with the sensors inside the wheel. Wouldn't ever have them on the outside. The ARB ones work ok, never had any major problem on the 79. It is easy to change the pressure range, or swap the numbers around when move the wheels front to rear etc. Recently, the ARB has updated the system but would need to buy the new kit, not able to update the original. The original version had the same range for all the tyres, now they have changed it so each tyre has it's own pressure range. That's better for vehicles with heavy front or rear like the 79. They also made a easy double range so could easily drop the pressure numbers on the dirt from the bitumen rather need to change the numbers for each tyre.

[@billywestley9008]

Interesting video, thank you, I personally have never had a situation or thought of needing this type of product. I have run BFG tyres since 1999 on Landrover’s and my cruiser 80, still do. Am I missing something? Best regards to all.

[@stendecstretcher4983]

Billy Westley no I had TPMS on a previous car total waste of time.

[@Frankyno]

Why dont you use internal ones, ARB have them, that would be good to see the difference .

[@radiationman72]

Absolutely agree

[@dreamfries]

TPMS Sensors have been Mandatory For Vehicles in California Since 2006 or 2007. Some Car Manufacturers that Equip these Sensors dont tell you what Tire is low Just that "A" Tire is Low, Atleast you get a Warning.IMO

[@moondog573]

"if it doesnt work, then I'll know it was a bad idea" wow, my life in a sentence.

[@Absurd1024]

Thx for testing 👍 Whats the name of your intro song, cant get it out of my head 😁

[@ElwynYork]

Only Way is Down John Lingard

[@maxtraction5388]

we were once a authorized fitter for digoptions, not anymore their service backup and warranty is terrible.

[@sendit3184]

I think one should not rely on electronic when traveling to remote places, but if someting small can improve safety use it.

[@tougefrog]

The ARB tpms looks like its just a re branded product.

[@awildman69]

Hi Andrew, would you ever consider a central tyre inflammation system on a build? Cost would be prohibitive for myself, just wondered what you're thoughts are.

[@philhealey449]

Sounds like using propane!

[@Shawn-ik6dr]

I don't know what the laws are in Australia; however, in North America its become federally mandated that ALL new vehicles are made with a tire pressure monitor. Now, with that being said, some have an alarm that sounds when the pressure is below a predetermined level, with a corresponding "idiot" light on the dashboard and others have a graph with each tire displaying their individual pressures. Given that Australia is very much becoming a similar "Nanny state", could it be assumed that they too will make Auto manufacturers do the same thing there?

[@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen]

Just bought a cheapie TPMS off EBay and wondering just how bad it is going to be. I don't mind if it doesn't give 100% correct pressure readings but if it warns of a tyre starting to deflate, that is all I will care about. They are obviously a good idea and are being mandated as standard in some countries. I think perhaps the in-tyre models may be better than the external ones but it will be fun to see how a cheap one does first.

[@diegoleonardobuding6491]

Hi Andrew! Check out Orange Electronic TPMSs, I´ve been using them for more than 10 years (badly paved and gravel roads of Argentina) in three vehicles including a Hilux overlander and a Renault Kangoo cargo minivan (800kg payload). Great display, easy setup, high temp- plus high and low pressure settings and alarms, VERY accurate readings that helped me manage tires to last about 80.000km. Hope I catch you somewhere around here in 2020!!

[@joelwatts6890]

Andrew, off topic but eager for news- your website schedule says you won't be in the USA until July. Are you still doing a Sprinter build here? I'm considering a Sprinter purchase and I'm looking forward to see what you do, since the only mods I've seen out there are too much like an RV.

[@Shakar2010]

Waiting much for the internal system review. I want to buy it myself and would appreciate your remarks on it before me purchasing it. Thanks for your videos

[@Shakar2010]

It depends how long do the battaries last in the inside system? Of course if I have to change batteries every year, that is a mess. However if I do it along with tire replacement every two-three years, that is not a problem. @Flyingcrocodile46

[@Spyyyder1]

What song is the "I'm a prisoner of this hill" in the intro from ?

[@ElwynYork]

Only Way is Down John Lingard

[@BenMitro]

Tyre temperature pretty much tells you if you have a problem that requires stopping and investigating. Won't help with a blow out, but neither will a pressure monitoring system. Blow outs happen too fast. As far as I am concerned a tyre temperature monitoring system is all that is required and that can be mounted external to the tyre. We don't need caps or internal to the tyre installations. Question is, who make them?

[@digoptions]

You can find at www.tpmsaustralia.com.au

[@clintAdventures]

Andrew can you tell it to ignore low pressure when offroad like on sand?

[@4xoverland]

The only way is to turn it off.

[@clintAdventures]

@@4xoverland Thank you Andrew. Are you happy with it? I have been trying to decide on one that will also work with a trailer (many only do 4 wheels) so far this one is looking the best.

[@mishomishev3152]

My 15 years old car have such system without the use of internal or external sensors.It is just monitoring the tires rpms . It is ridiculous that Toyota is forcing the clients to insert things inside or outside the tire...

[@jasonhowe1697]

sometimes you can get duds, the way I look at it if it takes more than 10 min to set something up it is a waste of space to use... at 2 hours fiddle time it is a bad product.. however I be very careful in the pressure sensors you use because bad batts leads to faulty readings.. as much as i like technology sometimes it is a pain de arse to use... If you are that conserned on what the pressure is deploy what the truckers use air up and down tyres

[@ppal64]

How heavy is the sensor - does tire need to be rebalanced

[@digoptions]

No you dont need to rebalance

[@emu4wdadventures631]

Like your vid but they seem to be getting shorter length than usual. Steve

[@paulheins8125]

Does adding sensors effect the tire and wheel balance?

[@4xoverland]

no. The external ones are too light, and the internal sensors are fitted before balancing.

[@rockbiterhd]

Six tyre sensors

[@briannotapplicable2223]

Stop drinking cokes. Eat more vegetables. I still like you and your videos.

[@philipjooste9075]

Yeah c'mon Andrew - we told you so many times!

[@lanceroark6386]

4:24 is that a sloth spying on you through your back window?

[@4xoverland]

a dead wombat that i use as a pillow.

[@lanceroark6386]

4xoverland HA!!!

[@o0motorhead0o]

REPCO sell those terrible ARB TPMS but in a REPCO box...I couldn't believe it when they showed up. All I could think about was your review on how terrible they are.

[@mwitalemi]

An "attempt" at a review it truly was.

[@davidwoods80]

"A ship is safest when it is in harbour, but that's not what ships are for." Same goes for 4x4 vehicles. Tires go flat occasionally. Deal with it. A little hardship and inconvenience builds character and makes for good campfire stories. Measure your own tolerance for risk -- overlanding isn't for everyone. Anticipating every possible failure scenario results in a gear-centric experience instead of submerging oneself into the last parts of the world where humans don't control every aspect of life. It's not like we're driving overland to the moon, you know.

[@martinlanza1236]

I've had DirtDog internal sensors fitted this week, works wonderful so far.

[@DavidQua]

Sold under TyrePal brand in UK. www.tyrepal.co.uk. I have this on my 4x4 truck and it works well.

[@FPVsean]

But is it really worth 260$?? That's the price of a spare tyre really

[@lanceroark6386]

Dodge Ram 6.7 Laramie?

[@ReubenHorner]

Eh?

[@lanceroark6386]

Reuben Horner a guess at the next vehicle ASPW will buy and modify.

[@ReubenHorner]

Given that he's in Aussie. I doubt it muchly

[@lanceroark6386]

Reuben Horner kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmfIkpqvj8qamck

[@dreyfusnineteen9949]

3.3 bar .. thats approx 48 psi and on what looks .like a dirt road .. do you really know what you are talking about?

[@sonictech1000]

What pressure would you recommend at his weight and speed?

[@il_DonGelato]

I was wondering as well ....

[@dreyfusnineteen9949]

@@sonictech1000 36 to 38 psi assuming the dirt road is hard packed

[@petermirabell891]

it's time for you take a small anger management course, i think -:))).

[@byjingo4640]

Most annoying function in any kind of vehicle

[@id10tcertified]

You may as well remove the valve, this product pushes the valve plunger down and holds it down so you’re relying on the product to hold the air in your tyres in the same way you’d remove the valve and rely on the dust cap to hold the air in, if one breaks but doesn’t come completely off which looks easy, specially off road. No thanks.

[@chrisk7149]

After watching this, I thought I give dig options TPMS a try.... Maybe worth mentioning now that they have a shocking / non existing customer service, but don't take my word for it. Go onto their Facebook and read the reviews. My advice, stay away!

[@Franku777]

I just bought ones from them, spoke with them for advice before placing the order, delivery was quick. My phone dropped out - they called me back straight away to finish chatting to me - customer service so far has been good.

[@sierramantrvlnus]

Never was a fan of them. You can pretty much tell if your too low on air if you know your vehicle. Especially if your loaded.