A New Tram across the THAMES? (KENEX Trams)

[@quzofrommycoke]

I feel like if a sizable part of the tram is going to be underground, why not just make it an automated metro like the DLR? Those are some long distances to be covered by a tram, but of course: any public transport is better than none. I'm happy to see this proposal! P.s. welcome back!

[@The1979gregor]

The estimated cost is £800M not 80m. We're talking about building a dedicated tunnel under the river!

[@ChoobChoob]

Great video format! Keep it up!

[@thegrowl2210]

HE'S BAAAACK!!!

[@fToo]

£80m seriously? For a sunken tram tunnel. On what planet?!

[@physiocrat7143]

Not sure about this one. Wouldn't it make more sense to link the North Kent to Romford lines?

[@Richbrick48]

Tram on Canvey lol

[@matthehat]

Yay, more transport investment in the South East while the North East gets to replace our 40 year old trains with 30 year old trains.

[@davidbull7210]

Destined to become two mini buses that stop at the river to be met by a choleratic ferryman

[@adrianbanks2089]

Boris Will Drive The Mini Bus ( T.F L ) ?

[@raphaelnikolaus0486]

Isn't there also a Crossrail-1-extension-plan to Ebbsfleet? Could well connect with Kenex then.

[@CCA2020]

Either to gravesend or ebbsfleet

[@lodgemj1971]

The route is safeguarded but there is no definite plan. And the big issue would be the money given all the additional funding Crossrail has received and TfL’s financial position

[@chollocks]

It's not possible to build that tunnel for £80m

[@DesperateDigger666]

Welcome back. Having temped on the initial interborough planning for the now shelved Cross River Tram Project, and worked in Grays for Thurrock Council before retirement, I'll be interested to see if any progress is made on this. Thanks for the heads up.

[@timbounds7190]

Can't see it happening - too much money! Also, in Essex at least, it more or less follows existing heavy rail routes, albeit with more stops, so maybe you could just build the tunnel and run trains rather than trams through it, connecting the C2C and Kent networks.

[@patrickr7668]

I think you mean £800m, not £80m

[@FThrcrtor]

TFL DEFINITELY NOT GOING 2 TAKE OVER IT AFTER 2 SECONDS OF SERVICE

[@CCA2020]

Omg ur back, missed you

[@Marcus51090]

Never going to happen

[@transporter4060]

Trams = 💓👍💓👍💓👍💓👍

[@lordgemini2376]

Welcome back, we need a video on the Manchester Metrolink and it's future pal!

[@johnjephcote7636]

I live near Nottingham and that city also has a brilliant tram system!

[@thetoptrump1000]

Glad you're back!

[@DrMJT]

It would be logical to have the route that terminates at Ebbsfleet Int'l Station, carry on with a stop or two in Ebbsfleet Garden Village, Bluewater, Darneth Valley Hospital, and in to Dartford Town Centre and station. BRT's are rarely successful as they have to 'wait' in traffic. The BRT+ (has own pathways) might as well have rails to be a proper tram. On the Kent side, it is obviously missing an Ebbsfleet station to the south to connect with stations on the other Kent Railway Lines... Longfield, Brands Hatch. To the West along the Thames... the housing developments of Greenhithe (Ingress Park) and Stone to Dartford - have a BRT pathway but could benefit from it being upgraded to Tram.

[@stateofflux7453]

Why do people live in these areas just past the outskirts of London anyway?🤷🏻‍♂️

[@malcolmsmith4603]

extension to Basildon would make sense

[@jasbindersidhu]

Never mind the East

[@BJHolloway1]

Don't hold your breath re Freeports. The UK had these up until 2012 when they were abandoned because they were a failure.

[@Andrewjg_89]

I would see a new tram or light rail system to be built for Essex and Kent via over or under the River Thames. And I think it would make journeys between Essex and Kent much quicker. There has also been plans for a tram or light rail system in Hampshire that could happen that would go from Fareham to Portsmouth via Gosport and to Lee-on-the-Solent. And to replace the ferry between Gosport and Portsmouth.

[@stickynorth]

Even at $800M GBP it's still worth it... As long as it's a rail-based solution I'm generally for it, even if I'm not a total fan of low-floor trams especially when compared to high floor LRT/Pre-Metro...

[@lucatemperapeperoniconpann1810]

Can you do Cagliari CTM Expanison

[@iman2341]

£80m? Is that a typo? Not a chance you’d even get half the dann tunnel for that…

[@decam5329]

If you are looking for a tram disaster, look no further than Edinburgh.

[@dancedecker]

Sorry, not so. At first maybe, but that was mostly due to a disagreement between two of the construction parties, which was resolved. It has now had an extension to Newhaven approved and this is due to open next year, with others being considered, so I think the word "disaster" is a little dramatic and also basically a tad undeserved. Should lessons be learnt from it, certainly and they have, but it is now a well run, efficient, popular and viable system that is a credit to the Scottish capital. So fingers crossed, the south east might get a similar system and each one that opens has, so far without fail, benefitted very well, the area, the economy and the environment. (The only negative point I might make is that, whilst as I say, any new tram system that we get, can only really be a good thing, perhaps the south east is already a little over provided for on the public transport infrastructure front.)

[@decam5329]

@@dancedecker the network that exists is fine and well run, but the near neverending roadworks - Leith Walk, for example, is s blight that seems to have no end in sight. However the residents of Granton Harbor will have a fine run out to the airport.

[@dancedecker]

@@decam5329 Okay. Well not being local, I admit that I cannot argue those points. But just saying "disaster" I thought was being solely aimed at the early disagreements and delays they inevitably caused which I freely admit were not ideal and we're much publicised. So I thought I'd put those arguments, whilst valid,into some context. It's just that obviously I support all the current actual or proposed systems, as they all seem, at least on the surface, to be beneficial to their area to some greater or lesser degree. But if you determine a "disaster" to mean the amount of roadworks a tramway causes, then maybe it is one. But to me at least, a "disaster " means it isn't successful, has little or no patronage and has no chance of either being extended or continuing to operate at all. Something the Edinburgh system is a long way from being, it would seem. It is successful, popular, viable and is being extended. But excessive roadworks if due solely to the tramway, are admittedly a nuisance, so I'm only sorry that these blight the system's otherwise successful benefits. So thank you for your kind information.

[@trainman305team]

Nice 👍🏾 interesting

[@luisstransport]

Great video

[@itsthatsebguy93]

Seems like a good idea, will probably never happen.

[@metro673]

Good explanation

[@eastlancsesteem]

REALLY???! 😲 YES PLEASE!!! 🙏🏾

[@hypercomms2001]

I come from Melbourne... trams are fantastic... yet it would great to be able to connect to Tramlink...

[@mikehebdentrains]

The Lower Thames Crossing is in progress as well now - so if Kenex arrives it could also serve people arriving in the Chadwell St Mary / Orsett area via the new road links.

[@DavidWilliams-km5xu]

Trams in city's and town's are way forward.