Mr. Eshelman is an extraordinary teacher. I had the good fortune of finding his forum a few years back -- he has a wonderful way with words and he keeps shit real. I can't imagine the cumulative amount of time he has spent answering questions from worthy and un-worthy students. Much respect Jim if you read these comments. Thanks!
@thishandleistacken6 ай бұрын
It's so lovely seeing this topic shine as it ought to, bringing wisdom and laughter, community and individuality. One can tell a lot from the vibes whether or not you're looking at the real thing... as there are other videos from certain others (some with a lot of sway in the community or the "centre of the fire" as they would call it) who claim they're "the one and only" (misunderstanding entirely, by taking literally, the Oneness of our system). We need not be literally One just as the Ipsissimus does not validate Solipsism but rather a Solipsist Hivemind. Everything "above" Da'ath is full of paradoxes since without seeming contradiction our brains and beings are incapable of finding Malkuth in Kether and Kether in Malkuth or understanding the flowing or connecting between Briah and Atziluth. I appreciate how human Eschelman is. All the silly mistakes at first but he clearly does not care. What matters to folk who dedicate their lives to The Work ought to be The Work... not "how it looks to others that I'm doing The Work". Lotta people seem to like the theatre, some others like being the secret masters in the shadows who never risk giving talks like this. To me despite one of them denying fellowship the reality is they are still One and its amusing how much they embody the 3 in 1 and 1 in 3: "Speech in Silence, Silence, and Silence in Speech. The Order is One, as there is but One Eye in the Triangle." If one of the three goes dark it'll likely be part of the larger, natural, non-temporal plan. White Lodge and Black Lodge reunified perhaps? Who knows. Regardless. Thanks for the wonderful talk.
@daureillux528710 ай бұрын
Amazing lecture. I wish there were more of his talks available on KZbin. By the way, I have cleaned up the audio in this talk and re-uploaded to my channel, just in case anyone needs it.
@joshradigan89305 ай бұрын
His talks r Hella long and I like long videos on this subject so I agree
@remusomega8 жыл бұрын
Jim has done more for the Thelemic community than any other individual alive in my life time. Thanks Jim
@OMGItsJimmyNash8 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful. I have been on the path for over twenty years now. I have noticed that the uninitiated have a great deal of paranoia (mostly induced by youtube fear porn made by self proclaimed "experts" who have never stepped foot in any lodge). People talk about Freemasons, Rosicrucians, the OTO, and yet I never hear mention of the Silver Star. Personally, my path was filled with confusion and mystery, until I got up with this system. Yes, I believe, as AC claimed, that it is the true repository for the ancient mysteries. It is so great to see that before these fearmongers have the chance to slander the Silver Star, these videos are out here, showing the true sublime nature of initiation. Thank you. Kasekhemwe FRC et AA
@OMGItsJimmyNash8 жыл бұрын
Your interpretation seems very shaped to modern conspiracy theory. World domination? In a sense... Yes. But not the kind that you are thinking. It isn't about material possession or mental control. It is about liberation of the human spirit. The slaves shall serve because that is their will. That is where they are in their journey. It is an unavoidable consequence of nature that some have no higher aspiration than to serve. It is actually beautiful, because true illumination comes with service to the greater good. Without that sacrifice, one doesn't have the spiritual integrity to cross the abyss. But the most efficient and valuable service is rendered in accordance to will. So the slave is in a spiritual place for enlightenment, in their humility. It is a person with spiritual potential, standing outside of the lodge. We constantly call out to the world, inviting all who are so inclined, to enter into the mysteries. It is unfortunate that so many refuse the invitation, for either apathy, atheistic belief, or fear from the ocean of echoed disinfo going about. Whether we like it or not, globalization is inevitable. It is the natural course of things. Just follow the historical pattern. And it can either be like the noble vision of the Rosicrucian republic, as described by Francis Bacon in The New Atlantis, and carried forward by our Masonic forefathers, the New Order of the Ages; or it can be the New World Order of the bankers, energy barons, and war profiteers. The two are NOT the same. Wake the hell up! You have been deceived. The powers that be have turned the blame for their deeds on their historical enemies, and everyone is buying into it. Learn history. Get your info from the sources, not these uninitiated, ignorant, dogmatic, self proclaimed "experts", whose idea of research consists of seeking out any detail that can lend itself to their already decided conclusion, while blatantly failing to do the slightest bit of research into the actual meanings of things they are guessing at. And it is clearly because their integrity for or knowledge of proper research is beyond lacking; it doesn't exist. No dogmatic Christian can possibly understand ANY of this, due to their own paradigm, where mere thought itself is evil.
@OMGItsJimmyNash8 жыл бұрын
+VideoSoldaat We aren't in disagreement on most of what you wrote here. I think that anyone who doesn't by mere logic ASSUME that power is gained and maintained by conspiracies, is just lying to theirself. Of course they conspire. It is quite obvious that 911 reeks of conspiracy, and the official story is an insult to anyone with even a basic understanding of physics. JFK was certainly assassinated by elements within our own government. I even have strong doubts about the Apollo footage being genuine. So believe me, I see conspiracies in our world. I do not use the term "conspiracy theorist" as a pejorative term. Even the ones that I KNOW are way off in their interpretation of the nature of occult knowledge, and are totally ignorant of the historical facts surrounding the topic; they still contain a whole lot of truth about this world. I also agree that Crowley is not one to follow. That is why I don't. I think that some of his writings are ingenious insight into ancient wisdom, and his prose delivered the material in a way that makes the most esoteric and indefinable bits and pieces much more available to the uninitiated than just about any other source from his time. Obtaining knowledge from a source, does not equal following that source. Otherwise Christians would be worshipping the disciples and John the Revalator. And scholars would be following Dewy. The difference I have with your position and what it has in common with those dogmatic creators of the "secret societies are for the elite, their symbols are satanic (explanations to the contrary be damned), and therefore, all of the evil in the world is being committed by elite Satan worshipers and carried out through the esoteric lodges" theory. A theory that has been parotted ad nauseum, by lazy armchair "researchers", who go no further in their "research" than those books and videos made by the wholly ignorant people who started the myth. This has happened so much that these assertions are now just taken as fact. Here are some facts. The elite owners of this global plantation are NOT illuminated. The Bavarian Illuminati was NOT the actual and ancient illuminati. Weishaupt just liked the name and used it. The elite are very materialistic, concerned only with earthly power and control, they cannot possibly proceed far enough through initiation to gain actual illumination. The mystery schools have historically and by a default consequence of their knowledge, been at opposition with those who hold material power, and this is evidenced by a plethora of historical events, and really is something that just seems logically obvious. The owners don't have any real knowledge of the greater reality, and believe that they invented God. The mystery schools are no longer keeping anything secret, other than passwords and handshakes. The church and state can no longer persecute for heresy, so there has been a major attempt at illuminating the masses, underway since the late 1800s. This knowledge has always been for mankind to eventually use, when society is ready. The people who decorate our world with certain symbols are NOT in league with ANYONE who seeks to oppose the liberation of the human spirit. Those are all facts; not opinion.
@JDC3528 жыл бұрын
only through silence can express.
@paradoxdecayed4718 жыл бұрын
I'm glad y'all came to a peaceful resolution. I'm am far from an adept, and very little versed in Thelema but I am very interested in it. I would like to know what are the biggest difference between the O.T.O, and the A.A. I'm currently following a teacher Mark Stavish, the owner/operator of "The Institute for Hermetic Studies" who resonates well with me. Its a LHP, but don't automatically jump to something like Satanism or the like. The difference between LHP and RHP is that the Divinity is brought down to an intact ego and doesn't dissolve into the Divinity, that's LHP. And of course RHP seeks to dissolve into Divinity. Compassion is required to undertake The Path of Return :-) I would like to know which of these paths, if any that AA claims. VIDEOSALDAAT, I was wondering if you were a fan of Mark Passio? Some of the things you mention sounded like his teachings (possibly propaganda). I have listened to many of his podcasts and watched most of his videos and I gotta tell you he is a well speaker and I learned a lot but something started not to seem quite right. I noticed my overall fear level was spiked after almost all his talks, speeches or whatever. He was fearmongering under the guise of spreading Truth. To quote my favorite singer/artist/Magickian Maynard James Keenen " THERE'S NO LOVE IN FEEEEEEAAAAAAR", lol. That's proven by science, Love and Fear produce two different vibration, and the two can't be produced simultaneously. Just saying man LOVE with CARE and COMPASSION, FAITH, HOPE, and CHARITY are the way. Beware of any promoting fear consistently, They are either lost on the Path or promoting a malicious agenda. You fellas may know all this but my gut wouldn't allow me "not" to write this. Peace to my Fraters and Sorers on the Path of Return !!!!!!! Frater Stephen
@thegreatecb7 жыл бұрын
Am I right that all you enlightened fellows here are still meat-eaters? How'd I guess?
@shay31099 жыл бұрын
Thank-you. This lecture is much needed for those beginning to seek knowledge within.
@frankjimenez46015 жыл бұрын
This video inspires me to continue with the A.: A.: work.
@rebeccacooper28746 жыл бұрын
I'm a Sagittarius, born on the 9 degree with 2 sq in Saturn and my N. Node.. A warning to your initiates when they raise the snake to reach the philosophers stone, Nuits egg.. In communion/union with the divine pure bliss is nothing like imagined, even 1000 times more, but afterwards True Sorrow is first experienced and what they say about genius and insanity is true.. My descent into madness of the ascension can break anyone if not careful. This World is backwards and that's essential to understand for the alchemediting process to work. You cannot cling to this world, not even your last breath... Cling to nothing here for matters of Adam/Atom have no place in the spiritual planes of the divine.. The reincarnation process is tricky. If the lesson isn't learned you will repeat your life here in heaven to even your mark(a)..and to he(a)ll will just be a subconscious yearning that is a confusing feeling, because you still know not what you truly are and you never awakened in your fitful Dream.
@amyfleming6099 Жыл бұрын
This is beautiful information 🥰
@ThomasNorris-i9d5 ай бұрын
To your knowledge, did Israel Regardie ever act as Superior to anyone in the A.A.?
@NoxBhairava3 жыл бұрын
This is excellent
@AntonSlavik6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad this has been explained and explained so well to me. I held the common conception that degreed orders were _all_ a scam. Then I realised initiation is sometimes required and wondered what a genuine series of initiation would look like. Then I found this talk and got my answers. I'm currently in the process of constructing my own church/religion. This structure is good working inspiration I may need further down the road. (Footnote: to preemptively defend myself from potentially being called a pretentious douchebag, I'm not fabricating a church/religion to rival Thelema in scope, but to replace the Catholic Church in Ireland for those who can't bring themselves to be Catholic. Religious community is a cultural lifeline)
@iouel Жыл бұрын
Take The Key!
@archimmm81175 жыл бұрын
After being part of A∴A∴ for a long time I've gained alot in many ways and thelemites are few and far between for reasons I know not
@rosenamdensuden7 жыл бұрын
Thirsty to know (and do) the Will. Happy to be thirsty...
@katiecollins50252 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent lecture. I have watched it several times and learn something new as well as recognize some of these points in my own praxis everytime I watch it.
@Shamanistical18 жыл бұрын
Great videos! Love the way you teach. Thank you!
@baphamettsavior16989 жыл бұрын
"The timing...just fabulosalisticlly entertaining and uplifting. Understanding this magical universe will be understood by the masses very soon. Simply by increasingly exposing AA through all mediums will the perpetual increasingly continually grow larger and larger until the illumination of our beings are recognized and acknowledged by our fellow travelers".
@michaelpilot10009 жыл бұрын
Wow. James I remember when you were a Chow Hall Cook in the Military US Air Force 1977! Hey contact me!
@ronangarey73279 жыл бұрын
Thank You...:-D
@guidedmeditation23966 жыл бұрын
So many teach the what. So few teach the how.
@duantorruellas7167 жыл бұрын
28:12 to 31:01 , when i heard how beautifully he explained that , i said to myself , yes I'll take 2 semesters of that please , with him as the professor . This guy is awesome.
@ouidacarrington47199 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ocarrington9 жыл бұрын
Illuminating, thanks
@JDC3528 жыл бұрын
Hello Jim Eshelman.
@atransientpreacher7 жыл бұрын
That was fantastic. Thank you.
@NoxBhairava3 жыл бұрын
Please post more content
@robertputneydrake8 жыл бұрын
i thought i saw robert anton wilson first
@jojososomusugogo8567 жыл бұрын
robertputneydrake me too. thats why i clicked on this.
@雌わ雄3 жыл бұрын
who is RAW
@mededmoon62659 жыл бұрын
i may have missed it, but did he cover "the crossing of the abyss" ?
@AleksoLaĈevalo9998 жыл бұрын
Nope. He only talked about path to communion and knowledge of HGA. Abyss is beyond that and really people who are starting their patch do not need to know anything about it.
@ramon20085 жыл бұрын
@fushapanther that's like barely starting to add and wanting information on astrophysics.
@adocentyn90286 жыл бұрын
thought-provoking
@akitabeautiful37486 жыл бұрын
I APRECIATE ALL ALEISTER CROLWEY ORDERS
@TC-cv1dg5 жыл бұрын
Sound like true worshiper.
@kathleengleason98055 жыл бұрын
N proves u r a degenerate like crowley do u eat feces too lol
@carbon14799 жыл бұрын
1:52:12 - any idea what the first name of that author was? There's no way in hell I'll find it by googling 'Christian' and 'kundalini'.
@dc938 жыл бұрын
I'm having the same problem. Hopefully someone can tell us.
@toohsas6 жыл бұрын
Gopi Krishna
@OMGItsJimmyNash8 жыл бұрын
If there were a cause, moreover a willed cause for the universe springing into existence, that cause would not be subject to space or time. It would NECESSARILY be infinite, without beginning, end, everywhere, and nowhere. Time and space expanded as the bang banged. There are some suggestions made concerning something from nothing, making a convincing argument for that possibility as well. But in a nutshell: Not only is it unnecessary to require a beginning or birth of a being that exists outside of our finite space-time continuum; but it is actually illogical to suggest the possibility of a beginning to such a being.
@darkthrongrising54706 жыл бұрын
I watched this a couple years ago, needless to say, its worth watching again, I can tell this guy knows what hes talking about. I dont call myself a Thelemite nor do I say '93' every time Im talking to someone(just more religious crap) but I practice Magick and Crowley is my main source for information. Anyway, yeah, this guy is good.
@ajones7477 жыл бұрын
Wow - Jim looks a lot younger than I expected!
@anaemiabag9 жыл бұрын
great
@Eyeway6668 жыл бұрын
93. Thank you for your efforts, it is appreciated, 93/93.
@highlonesomed9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I'd put Jim up there with people like Duquette and Ram Dass who really know how to introduce this type of stuff to people in a way that doesn't seem insurmountable. His books are really well written and Visions & Voices is one of my favorite books ever. And holy fuck, that quick god-form tip. I was beginning to think I was just too self-conscious for it.
@feedingaway9 жыл бұрын
i listen to the that it holy shit indeed how can join and start seeing things A A is man made
@MultiDavidlynch8 жыл бұрын
Great presentation.
@ianstukenborg4375 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Serum-cy9hs8 жыл бұрын
I am now ready. After having been ready all of my life.i was born a very powerful spiritual being with potential not seen in a long time.i have come fourth and stepped back within the alchemical process of my being many times in my journey so far. The necessity of the separation of fear has done what it has set to do.i have fully realized that I always knew but I didn't know what I knew.this has caused me to regress for the purpose of now realizing my true abilities and their purpose. I am ready to become with the help of a master. I don't know who this is or if it is even on here but I will find them. I will be found.
@chrisjames78037 жыл бұрын
if you were born a very powerful being you'd not need a master or a system,, go be free learn the knowledge the way AS did.
@StClare_5 жыл бұрын
Spiritual pride is an obstacle to spiritual progress.
@SamboDestroyer4 ай бұрын
👁
@jodo63298 жыл бұрын
So how do I do magic?
@JDC3528 жыл бұрын
half the battle won.
@paradoxdecayed4718 жыл бұрын
Using words which are symbols that mean something to use humans. Magick is the language of symbols. ALthough I respect the the A A and the O.T.O. which are both Thelemic based on Crowley's writings, there are other groups out there. Take a look around and choose the system that feels right, not a meh right, but a this is it Right. Also picking out a teacher or Master a good saying is " You will know them by there fruits"
@AJM1993ful8 жыл бұрын
*their
@JDC3528 жыл бұрын
Paradox Decayed That is a truly decadent paradox.
@FlyingTeacup6 жыл бұрын
with your True Will
@tannernolin6425 жыл бұрын
What is the book mentioned during the Quickening of the Light slide about the man who opened kundalini too early and spent 40 years in recovery?
@renatoresh2 жыл бұрын
can you turn on the Portuguese subtitles please, thank you, 93!!!
@AleksoLaĈevalo9998 жыл бұрын
Crowleyan logic was quite interesting. He believed that morality is not necessary for Enlightenment because there were people who attained without being moral. However he does not rejected gnosis/gnana/cabbalah/knowlage as important part of his path despite the fact that many people who lacked education in mysticism attained to higher levels of continuousness. He claims that asanas even thou not absolutely necessary are part of thelemic path because it is very difficult to attain without it yet he does not acknowledge other "helpers" as required like the above mentioned morality. Not to speak about the vast numbers of initiates who does not performed ritual magic nor specifically hermetic magic. Basically he know a lot about path to spiritual progression and just cut away things he does not liked and kept the ones which he liked. He attained and many others attained to prove that his way was effective. Sometimes I get the feeling that all is really basically needed for Enlightenment is achieving samadhi, and being in it often to gain insight. Also I really do not see why probationer rank was necessary when it is basically getting familiar with what Thelemic path to Enlightenment is.
@marcossummers92288 жыл бұрын
Marcel Proust was not a saint or religious person. He was a bohemian, but he also attained enlightenment...
@AleksoLaĈevalo9998 жыл бұрын
What makes you think he was enlightened?
@marcossummers92288 жыл бұрын
He said that. One day he as observing some pine trees and...LIGHT:-) Star Daily was a mafia man who attained the Light when being tortured by the police. But there are many other examples, in the East, of people who attained without being saints. Kanupatra was a dancer and prostitute,but attained God doing her job. Tukaran Maharaj was a family man. Namdev was a tailor who attained God doing this prosaic action. It is said God has no form or attributes, but he assumed a form for the benefit of Namdev. Nauroji was a thieve, but when he went to rob Chaytanya Mahaprabhu, He robbed the thieve and only enlightenment was left...Mirabai was a Queen...Janabai was a servant...and many many other beautiful examples...
@Kyk3_886 жыл бұрын
Crowley also thought taking the innocence of a child would allow you to take their life force, usually by sex rituals and torture. You agree with that too? Can’t cherry pick
@Shadez1333OfTheSouth6 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Urlaub Actually, yes you can. And you do, on a daily basis (unless you are going to tell me that you know the personal views and positions of the inventors of a thousand conveniences, ideas, words, etc and that you are in complete agreement with them). The idea that one must either wholly and slavishly accept any others system or outright reject it in full is stupid.
@onbailproductions3695 жыл бұрын
covert hypnosis starts at 2.00 suggestions follow orders from member high than you and complet orders and agendas from head members
@akitabeautiful37486 жыл бұрын
ITS 100% EGYPTIAN EVERYTHING OF THIS
@rhysowens2078 ай бұрын
AOYwiss
@petersfds9 жыл бұрын
liber al liberal
@thegreatecb7 жыл бұрын
"I am perplexed." "Sometimes I hate myself." The last words of Aleister Crowley ...
@remusomega6 жыл бұрын
If you read Eye in the Triangle by Regardie, you will learn how that was actually totally false & he describes how that rubbish was propagated and what Crowley was like in the last of his days.
@1stlove1007 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ is Lord. Every knee shall bow and tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.
@chrisjames78037 жыл бұрын
Thoth who was jesus,, certainly did say some interesting things,, he also started the ancient mystical schools that predate the jesus that said some interesting things.. his Dad 'god' certainly enjoyed slaughtering children and animals in his name.. liked raging citys to ash and enjoyed flooding the world to purge us from existance.. Go figure...
@adocentyn90286 жыл бұрын
ΙΧΘΥΣ
@thomasmurphy94296 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ was a psychedelic wizard from Egypt 💊🔥🤘🏻🔥💊
@Qliphirot6 жыл бұрын
What the hell are you doing here then? Anyone in here cares about your faith.
@kathleengleason98055 жыл бұрын
@/G\ LIGHTNING LODGE 666 ok well enjoy your ride to destruction loser
@Riversinthedesert7773 жыл бұрын
I got delivered from this group. I had a curse put on me and have now been free and knowing the Light, Jesus Christ for about 3.5 years! Bless the Father who delivers all who receive the love of the truth!
@jduluoz31313 жыл бұрын
I’mma call bullshit on this. A.’.A.’. doesn’t do “curses.” Also you don’t need to be “delivered” from A.’.A.’.: you can withdraw at anytime. If you have specifics to your tale, I’ll hear you out but just based on what you said it sounds like every other person who claimed that they were “High Priests of Satan” before they were “saved” in the 90s.
@ericpantacle24683 жыл бұрын
A.'. A.'. does not do curses you must have been involved with a false group
@jduluoz31313 жыл бұрын
After having heard your attempt at rapping, I stand corrected: you were cursed to be awful!
@jduluoz31313 жыл бұрын
@@ericpantacle2468 For what it’s worth the only “thelemic” group that incorporates curses is SOTO, but there’s only a (literal) handful of them out there. In theory and practice curses wouldn’t work in the New Aeon,because you can’t alter another star’s Will.
@Riversinthedesert7773 жыл бұрын
@@wordisbond007 sure
@theoilspoon5 жыл бұрын
Nonsense
@flatearthmage82336 жыл бұрын
Passing 5th degree is the most important and the hardest thing to achieve . Again , thing to achieve . Don't worry you won't miss it when it happens . When it happens everything is then different .