A PICTURE OF BRITAIN, THE BLACK COUNTRY, PART ONE

A PICTURE OF BRITAIN THE BLACK COUNTRY PART ONE
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[@macca1146]

I worked in the drop forge industry most of my working days, and enjoyed every minute of it, i can remember the Patent shaft steelworks in wednesbury, and the Round oak in Brierley Hill, who employed thousands, hard bloody work but that is the Black Country man to a tee.

[@roddyha]

Nice shot of the Crooked House Pub...

[@jamesheathcote6172]

Best place on Earth!! Love the Black Country.

[@risvegliato]

the tunnels under dudley are more to do with mining not transportation, the netherton tunnel is the one that opened up that.

[@brainimp]

There is an underground canal system that stretches from near the Black Country Museum goes under Wrens Nest Hill and his cut off underground towards Gornal, it was used to take lime from the Wrens Nest Mines to Tipton. There is also Tunnels from Wrens Nest Hill to a big Secret storage facility that is under Dudley Castle, it was used during WW2 to store Weapons and a backup cabinet meeting facility, There is many other passage ways that couldn't be explored when I was a kid because they were blocked off with big Iron sheets, I think even the accessible tunnels are blocked off now.

[@das5813]

If it was named after the smog and dust of the furnaces then your mistaken. There was just as much smog in Cheshire where the furnaces used to heat the water to be pumped into the ground to mine the salt and Manchester area Wigan was just as bad. It was called the black country because of the 30ft seam of coal.

[@arthomer6535]

My grandfather was born there in the 19th Century, left in the 20th.

[@mosharifi610]

Hi, where can I watch the whole of this documentary?

[@wayntimmin508]

Ime from the black country Dudley 👍

[@uditfonseka]

Shout out to Willenhall

[@philh8288]

My great grandad, and then my grandad both worked at the Stewart and Lloyds steel works. I couldn't because of a lady called Margaret! killed the area she did. I'd sit on sedgley beacon as a kid everyday yow cud see summat get blown up or bulldozed. Just to put a bloody road through it. 'Hail Maggie' what was it foer? To save a few bob! Then her attacked the coalminers. Maggies Britain.

[@katobailey3604]

The homeland!

[@hetrodoxly1203]

Thatcher had nothing to do with it, the unions had brought the region and the country to it'd knees, restrictive practises made much of industry uncompetitive, i was a maintenance Engineer and not allowed to unbolt a motor even though qualified because we were in a different union to the electricians, the miners strike finished us off, no electricity caused companies already struggling to go under, the miners put me out of work, the worse thing about it was they got massive pay outs and redundancy packages, we got the bare minimum, i've never forgiven the miners.

[@das5813]

​@@hetrodoxly1203 Your hatred is misguided. If it wasn't for our Trades Unions we'd still be paupers working for nothing but poverty money. It was the unions and our labour government that got you the NHS. Try paying for your treatment instead and see how far your private health insurance costs. Every business that's being run properly should benefit the employees as well as the investors, it's a 2 way thing. Perhaps you miss the crowds of women lining the streets at night as prostitutes trying to earn money to feed themselves and their kids. I was the one who labelled the Tory the EVIL Thatcher in the 1980s. I also showed them to be crooks and tyrants. I was the one who took these creatures on beating them at their own game. I read the LAW and it was me who stopped them sending poor to jail because they couldn't afford the high council taxes they demanded to pay for the profits of privatisation. I stopped them because I found out that they were not abiding by the law and I caused every council in the bloody country to abandon the council tax enforcement trials. Trades unions are what got us decent wages and security against the corrupt company bosses who tried to hire and fire for the cheapest labour. It was Trades unions fought for health and safety or you'd all be working like the Asians without ppe or insurance. You sort who read Murdocks Sun newspaper propaganda and believe everything they say are the people who don't deserve our welfare state and NHS. If it wasn't for the unions half the kids wouldn't have lived to see 18 and folk would've still been living in slums sharing houses with strangers to pay the high rents. The Tories are the devil along with their supporters.

[@AndrewKFletcher]

It was first called the Black Country by...... What a load of bollocks. The Irish Navies called it the Black Country because of the coal in the soil.

[@Growingman72]

I agree up to a point it was called the black country long before the industrial revolution because of the colour of its soils

[@OldWolflad]

@@Growingman72 Sorry this just nonsense. Now that 1800s archives can be accessed - newspapers, books etc from the critical 1800s, it is clear that the Black Country was not named after the colour of the soil. All the initial quotes highlight where the original BC was considered to have laid - nothing to do with the colour of the soil.

[@jhvoojh]

Absolute bullshit m8. Ireland in those days was a part of the British Empire, and if, by default Irish folk took the shillings then that is what is was. My family are from County Mayo, and I can't handle this bullshit. I've lived, loved, and been potless, all my life in and around the Black Country. Fuck all to to with your background, all to do with if you're good enough.

[@jhvoojh]

M8, the original "Black Country" was the raised coal seam, so yeah, correct. But to say it was Irish navvys that coined the phrase is at best disingenuous; both to us and the Irish. As a by-the-way; how many coal mines do you think there was in the Black Country? How many was there in Ireland? Anyone that has never had it hard, always blames something/one else.

[@OldWolflad]

@@jhvoojh Again, recently researched newspaper archives from 1830s-40s prove that the Black Country, as it originally was, was never thought to have been defined by the coal seam alone. Certainly not by the thick coal seam. It was clearly a combination of coal and iron ore, and the great dense smog created by the numerous iron and brick works.

[@stuartthurman9040]

That’s right Wolverhampton and Stourbridge is not Black Country

[@OldWolflad]

Wolverhampton was the original Capital or Metropolis of the Black Country. Contrary to popular opinion these days it wasn't centred where the accent is still strongest. Having said that not all of Wolverhampton was in the BC, just its eastern and southern sides. All the orginal quotes from the 1840-50s include Wolverhampton in the BC, where its great iron works and coal mines were, and its iron-ore was the best in the region. If you want to believe W-ton was NOT in the BC, I suggest you go to the BCLM, or perhaps more importantly read the work of Samuel Griffiths, Samuel Sidney, William White, Jospeh Beete Jukes, Gresley, Burritt etc - the period from the 1800s Industrial Rev when the BC was 'really actually with us. It was Wolverhampton's thin seam district that was described as 'mile upon mile of hills of black rubbish', and from Dudley Castle the area over Wolverhampton was described as that most affected by the smog from its forest of 240 chimneys. The BC was not so named because of the thick coal seam, that is nonsense and a theory contrived during the 1960s. It was so-called around 1840 and this directly coincides with the establishment of the iron industry - and it was primarily the smog from the chimneys that led to the area being so-called, not the coal seam. Coal had been mined for centuries prior.

[@stuartthurman9040]

Sorry but wolvo is not black country..

[@DudleyBlue]

@@OldWolflad For Me any area who say words like “I ay, Yow cur, He dai” Is in the Black Country!!!! So I would class Wolves as Black Country....

[@OldWolflad]

@@stuartthurman9040 Ok that is a really good counter -argument (:-. No reasons given inevitably because there isn't any, just based on the 1960s Dudley-centric views of the Black Country Society. May I politely and not intentionally-patronisingly suggest you seek out the current view of the BCS or the museum.

[@stuartthurman9040]

Even wolverhampton ppl don't speak like us black County foke.

[@Ludovico1138]

Incredible. Reminds me of Moria too.

[@MrGremlin69]

Blackcountry born blackcountry bred Strong in the arm thick in the yed !

[@blackcountryme]

soft In the yed

[@drwhatson]

Speak for yourself! (Born in Tipton) LOL

[@saxon954]

Biggles27 Nogginyed. The Black Country Museum and the Black Country Bugle do not agree with you and they are the experts. Were you born in a two up,two down gas lit terraced house with a brew house out the back and a shared lavatory and surrounded by factories ?. I was.