I feel like if mega Abomasnow was made today it'd have an ability that was a combined Snow Warning and Grassy Surge
@Birdsflight444 ай бұрын
Grasshy shnoge
@somehistorynerd4 ай бұрын
Snazzy Warning
@pochocho82254 ай бұрын
Weed on the free😮
@dumpybigface6524 ай бұрын
@@Birdsflight44signature move blizood hammard
@Galaxybro90004 ай бұрын
What about making the ability a combination of snow and HAIL?
@GoldGuard4 ай бұрын
Plot twist: Abomasnow's typing was designed for inverse battles
@tayclark424 ай бұрын
EXACTLY
@unavailableisnotavailable4 ай бұрын
Stupid question but what’s an inverse battle
@CeruleanShimmer24 ай бұрын
@unavailableisnotavailable Silly little extra mode they added in Gen 6, it reverses all type matchups
@CeruleanShimmer24 ай бұрын
@unavailableisnotavailable Silly little extra mode they added in Gen 6, it reverses all type matchups
@legalmel4 ай бұрын
@@unavailableisnotavailable honestly this isn't a stupid question at all lol. i feel like most experienced pokemon players wouldn't even know
@lackofsins9294 ай бұрын
If you ever seen Sinbad : The Legend of the Seven Seas, Mega-Abomasnow always makes me think about the giant snow owl of Eris. Something in the snow feathers and the murder gaze.
@leventemucsi95474 ай бұрын
I KNEW the design was familiar from somewhere
@jobon77084 ай бұрын
Magi mentioned 🗣️
@shumanbeans4 ай бұрын
@@jobon7708not quite. Op is talking about a Dreamworks animated movie from the early 2000
@michaelbradshaw65674 ай бұрын
I had a mega Abomasnow in Pokemon Y. His name was French Toast. He's dead now. Lumiose city ate him.
@pezyg4 ай бұрын
I consider myself lucky for never losing anyone to Lumiose. Rip French Toast, my new Abomasnow will be named after you
@hoothoot71224 ай бұрын
Well with a name like that can you blame them?
@rabiithous33 ай бұрын
wait what happened in those games? I forget
@bryce97404 ай бұрын
If Megas are in the next main series game, I hope MegAboma gets an ability rework. I feel it's so close to greatness.
@ElectricWindGirlFriend4 ай бұрын
Honestly I’d be ok with it staying the same with the change from hail to snow. It could really help it’s bulk.
@GoldGuard4 ай бұрын
@@ElectricWindGirlFriend Ice Body would be nice to give it recovery alongside its boosted bulk from the Mega (plus the defense boost from snow)
@usernametaken0174 ай бұрын
An ability that makes every attack act like it's in an inverse battle lol
@Forged4War2064 ай бұрын
@@GoldGuard Losing Snow Warning would instantly make Mega Aboma the worst Mega of all time, surpassing Audino. Weather not being permanent would mean that Mega Aboma would only be able to abuse Ice Body very briefly unless you also paired it with another Snow setter (which sounds kinda cheeks). I agree with EWGF that keeping Snow Warning would be very beneficial for it now that Snow actually buffs Defense, while still allowing it to function as a snow setter for the rest of its team if you want to abuse it.
@GoldGuard4 ай бұрын
@@usernametaken017 That's genius
@Kamiyoda4 ай бұрын
Obamasnow: "Let me be Clear Body"
@nickmoulton87024 ай бұрын
Underrated comment joke here hahahaha
@sonicwave7794 ай бұрын
If you like your weather, you can keep it.
@Edujs234 ай бұрын
If slush rush existed in gen 6 he would100% get it
@jamesrutley10094 ай бұрын
@cannottrust3710 not worth the trade off of being unable to reset the weather
@TaLeng20234 ай бұрын
@@jamesrutley1009Setting up Snow and then gaining Slush Rush in that turn to exploit it sounds fun tho. Maybe just have a 2nd permanent Snow setter?
@gallalameblook99114 ай бұрын
@@jamesrutley1009 I mean, if M-Abomasnow was even a fast-ish mon with like 80 speed, slush rush, and the same offenses it currently has, even with the same bulk as base form to accomodate the speed buff. Being unable to reset the weather by yourself means jack shit if you can act as the worst angriest Ice-type revenge killer, and being able to hit on either defense or even mixed attack. It'd suck for Gen 6 because that forces you to run Aurorus or pray the opponent doesn't have a good counter (like Charizard-Y would shit all over it) Okay, I'm basically describing M-Diancie-light, except no magic bounce and worse typing, but way faster and with access to recovery. Might not be that good, but it could be fun, and would definitely be better than the mess it currently is
@Juniper_Rose4 ай бұрын
abomasnows design is a long list of "what the FUCK do we do with this thing"
@AnEveryManJack4 ай бұрын
It's always important to consider when mons were released. Snow Warning Hail did not end without another weather being summoned in Gen 4. This was also the gen that introduced Blizzard having perfect accuracy in Hail. On paper, that's pretty strong, especially coming out of gen 3. It had a pretty damn good movepool for it's time. My guess is that they decided to balance it with a slow, mediocre stat spread. Bad typing was likely considered to, but was more about keeping it a pine/christmas tree.
@unnamed74854 ай бұрын
Abomasnow is yet another victim of the "mixed attacker stat spread" spam that GF loved in Gens 3 and 4 (Cacturne, Banette, Blaziken, Sharpedo, Cradaunt, Absol, Mothim, Infernape, and that's not even all of them). It at least somewhat made sense in Gen 3 pre-physical special split but it usually just kills a Pokémon's viability by making them frail AND slow
@sonicwave7794 ай бұрын
@@unnamed7485 ...Glailie, Shiftry, Seviper; Dear god, there's so many slow mixed attackers.
@GeorgeDCowley4 ай бұрын
Give it an evolution.
@jinji46092 ай бұрын
@@unnamed7485 mothim or cacturne doesn't scream mix attacker based on their design but i think Abomasnow is quite fit since Wood hammer and Blizzard are all very strong stab in gen 4, and it can break through those pesky SkarmBliss and bulky Water stall mon
@sachitechless4 ай бұрын
"But that doesn't matter as long as it's raw" SO TRUE
@lancingknight4 ай бұрын
Personally, I've always found mega Venusaur to be the most complex mega. It goes from a speedy chlorophyll sweeper with sleep powder, to a far bulkier beast that can both deal knock outs and support the team. Instead of just being "Venusaur but bigger" like most megas tend to be, it completely transforms the role Venusaur fulfills
@bradfjord4 ай бұрын
My favorite mega. Mega Venu with leech seed/screens/giga drain saved so many of my Emerald Rogue runs
@indiradevi8136Ай бұрын
It's mega Diancie lol.
@maxspecs4 ай бұрын
I’ve found the most success using Abomasnow with a Choice Scarf, mostly due to surprise factor. You’re just clicking blizzard with it 90% of the time, unless you’re clicking Aurora Veil.
@tedscheett94204 ай бұрын
If Snow sticks around rather than Hail in Legends Z-A or any mainline game after as well as Megas, we could see a fairly competent Ice type. Granted, all the weaknesses suck, but getting a defense buff with the weather is really nice.
@TheRavenOfDestiny4 ай бұрын
Lady forgot trick room doubles mega abomasnow.
@ElectricWindGirlFriend4 ай бұрын
I did give it a mention, it’s just not that strong in VGC. Idk much about smogon doubles so I didn’t talk about it.
@amberhernandez4 ай бұрын
Mega Abomasnow is the most mixed bag of Game Freak's "just make it bigger" mega philosophy. Tyranitar and Scizor were win-more megas, whereas Abomasnow was (unfortunately) severely flawed to begin with. A change in ability or typing would've helped significantly, but Game Freak never went that way. Tragic, if ya ask me.
@petervilla52214 ай бұрын
Not really related, but Abomasnow always reminded me of Zoidberg, so I always nickname mine Snoidberg.
@SakhotGamer4 ай бұрын
Every ice, fairy, electric and flying type with a good attack stat has an extreme speed niche in hackmons
@ShadowsWrath44 ай бұрын
*[chuckles]* "....You mean the Chaos Emeralds?"
@Thomlin124 ай бұрын
Abomasnow is thankfully decent in Gen 5 as an anti-meta pokemon due to the weather wars.
@mauwus4322Ай бұрын
Also has a similar niche in gen 4 as a mixed wallbreaker that chips sandstorm immune mons with hail.
@1BlueYoshi4 ай бұрын
A white whale I’ve been chasing in competitive Pokemon is making a Pokemon with both max Atk and max Sp. Atk investment work. In gen 6 M-Abomasnow was one of my attempts at this. It was on a double-weather (Ttar was the other one) Trick Room team with Magic Guard Reuniclus as the TR setter to ignore the chip from both weathers. M-Aboma did in fact hit like a truck and the team was fun but it was a bit too complicated to be consistent
@GeorgeDCowley4 ай бұрын
What nature did it have?
@1BlueYoshi4 ай бұрын
@@GeorgeDCowley Quiet, if I remember correctly
@Rose-854 ай бұрын
if megas ever come back to mainline, this thing with the snow defense boost is gonna be insane
@ElOcty4 ай бұрын
I just shiny hunted this guy in hopes his Mega returns. He might evaporate the second he hits the field but he’ll look good doing it.
@discobites4 ай бұрын
Slush Rush would’ve been great on it. Like in Radical Red. And keeping a higher speed
@TheSpeep4 ай бұрын
Tbf to normal Abomasnow, Candice's in BDSP is a legit threat. Facing a fully EV'd Abomasnow with a normal ingame team becomes very scary because there isnt much that actually switches in on its ice/grass Stab combo. Also keep in mind that Sinnoh is notoriously lacking in fire types, and the few that are available arent exactly the bulkiest mons.
@shadycactus78964 ай бұрын
Literally any steel type:
@hugebluewhales3 ай бұрын
honestly i always thought abomasnow's stats were much higher because it was so intimidating to me when i was younger
@Rakkun_Streak4 ай бұрын
Honestly even though it's not as relevant anymore. Gen 5OU has seen a resurgence of Abomasnow as an Anti-Meta pick, seems most teams seem built to work on Sandstorm. As well, I've had personal success on Gen 4 OU making a team Pivoted around Substitute, Blizzard, Wood Hammer and Earthquake. Substituting on the Predicted Heatran or Infernape and ANNIHILATIING THEM with an Earthquake is a different kind of pleasure. Also you kinda check half of Tyranitar's sets and it's weirdly good at checking Gyarados and non-choice scarf Flygon. Abomasnow was left behind by power creep and awful balancing decisions with Ice Types but I've really grown to like it since I've been trying to reconnect with Gen 4 OU.
@nathan7144 ай бұрын
snover and abomasnow will always be my favorite pokemon i will never forget the time my mega abomasnow survived a dragon ascent from mega rayquaza at 4hp and 1 shot it with blizzard in delta stream
@hoothoot71224 ай бұрын
I saw it in a mod, mega abamosnow had an ability called white out, it boosted ice type moves by 1.5x in hail/snow
@jakeogroton4 ай бұрын
It should be mentioned that as a weather setting lead its always going to win out for keeping its preferred weather on the field not only is it slower than a good portion of weather leads it also re sets snow on mega evolution the only other pokemon that does that is tyranitar who happens to be 1 point faster than Obama Snow
@GeorgeDCowley4 ай бұрын
Rayquaza also sort of does that, which is why it normally have the edge on the Primals.
@johndiddilyjoe62584 ай бұрын
Mega Abomasnow looks like the house at the end of Monster House
@shylar7633 ай бұрын
The funny thing is Abomasnow is actually pretty good in gen 9, especially because it can now change it's type
@irongonzales8094 ай бұрын
Keep at it! These videos are deeply entertaining.
@josephtripp16964 ай бұрын
Ice with an extra resist or two to something it can hit normally would be a godsend for Abomasnow in general. Flying is the one I'd root for, but I think there's cases for poison/water and probably (but also not particularly usefully) grass.
@pickles41284 ай бұрын
Abomasnow is so ridiculous in theory simply because Grass+Ice+strong ground/fighting coverage is absolutely insane, meaning it’s able to 2HKO literally anything. The issue is it doesn’t have longevity and it has a tendency to just go 1-1 every game. Which is a shame because it’s really fun to use, and I loved laddering with it in Gen8.
@birdyisblue4 ай бұрын
My favourite mega, I love running mixed sets on him. Obamasnow
@banditrests4 ай бұрын
I’ve always thought that mega-abomasnow should have an upgraded snow warning, like the primal weathers, that just shuts off some of it’s weaknesses- then it might actually be worth using over ninetales-a. Although I think Freezai brought base abomasnow to worlds 2023 not on a snow team just on it’s own merits, so you never know.
@madresidence2644 ай бұрын
IMHO if mega abomasnow wants to be properly viable come Z-A, then it should get a special snow variant that is either Hail but with the snow variants, or a snow that boosts both defenses
@TaLeng20234 ай бұрын
Hopefully they fix Megas in Z-A. Like make sure none of the Pokemon lose stats on mega-evolving.
@christopherdangelo12924 ай бұрын
Tbh mega aboma couldn’t really be saved as is even with the 50% defense buff, and an ability swap could work, tho of course it would most likely be an upgraded version of hail: Mega aboma rework idea: Defenses 105 -> 90 Speed 30 -> 60 New ability (name not decided yet): sets sleet Sleet effect: only goes away once the Mon switches out. Functions like normal snow, but doubles the speed of all ice types (ally, self, and enemy included). Singles it would essentially be comparable to rr aboma except instead of being fit only on hail, it would actually prefer being a self serving mega that functions on it’s own. While in doubles it would have deadly synergy with ice type partners.
@dustinbragg19214 ай бұрын
Mega Abomasnow needs to have an Ability that raises an Aurora Veil at the beginning of any turn (and on switch in) that it is snowing and not an already active AV up. Icy Rock Abomasnow goes in, Snow Warning sets snow, Abomasnow Megas, MegAbomasnow's ability sets AV, 5 turns pass or something scrubs Screens, still snowing, MegAbomasnow's ability activates again, 5 more turns of AV. Also given all the Gumshoos-Trump memes we need a regional varient of Abomasnow that is a thinner, taller evergreen only speckled with white atop its head. Obamasnow.
@Reinoiro4 ай бұрын
This went in an unexpected direction
@Jethro-goro4 ай бұрын
alas abomasnow can't hold both icy rock and abomasite
@dustinbragg19214 ай бұрын
@@Jethro-goro Ah right. It's been too long since gens 6 and 7. I'm used to the gimmick being usable without an item slot being taken up for it.
@Blost4 ай бұрын
“You can use focus blast to nail those resists very hard” No.
@rocketpenguin22074 ай бұрын
Wouldn't Mega Abom be good in trick room? I mean probably, but I also feel like there are better options for a trick room team. I don't know
@Mrdonjuliothewicked4 ай бұрын
If / when megas are brought back in a MAIN line game, pokemon should go the radred route, and give Mega Abomasnow Slush Rush. That on top of the snow buff might actually make it worth......something. set up snow, boost defense, mega, now youre also fast af boi (this wont even happen cause in regular games, mega is 30 speed, whereas radred keeps its base speed, but would be cool in theory)
@GeorgeDCowley4 ай бұрын
Basculegion 2.
@donnie90474 ай бұрын
base aboma and mega-aboma need a stat buff ASAP man, you cannot live that long with every stat below 100
@maagic20314 ай бұрын
Mega Abomasnow is actually buffed pretty hard in Gen 9 Natdex. It still isn't meta, that typing will always have issues, but with Snow it is unreasonably bulky and able to trade with pretty much anything. It has a pretty unfair match up into Rain where Abomasnow is taking like 20% from all of Mega Swampert's moves and always threatening to kill it with Wood Hammer or Giga Drain (or idk Grassy Glide if you're cool). It's a shame the snow buff came so late, it is a perfect compliment to Abomasnow's gameplan.
@josephbulkin92224 ай бұрын
Abomasnow's stats aren't as bad as you say. It has enough hp and defense to take just about anything, and a Blizzard that always hits. What's not to love?
@vez38344 ай бұрын
Are you really trying to argue for normal Aboma's stats? It can't take just about anything. It's probably fine for a normal playthrough, but for competitive it has literally nothing good. Beforehand base 100 was a good speed stat, nowadays you will be outsped with that. Same has happened to every other stat.
@josephbulkin92224 ай бұрын
@@vez3834 I could. And as for speed, I never cared for it for that exact reason. That if you get outsped, you sent a mon out for no reason. Better to be able to take many, many hits.
@lydia9822Ай бұрын
I'm extremely late, but! It also has a niche as an interesting sidegrade to Glastrier in metronome battles, since it has even more weaknesses, and hits much harder specially than glastrier does. It's only a bit less bulky, and has the option to be run alongside flower veil. It's an even more made up tier than normal hackmons, but I don't care, metronome battles are a good time.
@leaffinite20014 ай бұрын
If i could make one mega a normal evolution it would be altaria. But abomasnow also kinda deserves it
@dustytalent4 ай бұрын
No matter what anybody tells me, Abomasnow will always be cool to me.
@bigredradish4 ай бұрын
while i'm STILL waiting on that seaking video i will take a powerpoint about this freak of nature every day :)
@AutumnOwlex4 ай бұрын
I wish with Abomasnow it would gain slush rush and Tyranatar sand force when mega
@eeveewithcoffee95544 ай бұрын
I do wonder if Pokémon that spawned weather, if their mega didn’t have the same ability, would they be better or worse. Or if mega garchomp had sandstream instead of sand force
@edgargaebolg93074 ай бұрын
I don't see Sand Stream benefitting Mega Gar. Now if it was its base ability and got replaced by Sand Veil/Rush after going Mega, that'd be another story
@sepy94904 ай бұрын
poor guy didnt even get a tcg card
@10carflo224 ай бұрын
Got to be honest, I didn’t even know he had a mega until right now Never seen it mentioned 😂
@pbrown75014 ай бұрын
"Abomasnow looks pretty awful at first glance-" hey I think it looks cool. Oh you mean the numbers. Yeah.
@johnnyjohnson42654 ай бұрын
Not to be too negative but its currently one of only two ice megas and the only non-starter grass mega. Hope ZA fixes that
@edgargaebolg93074 ай бұрын
Mega Froslass copium
@meowastasia4 ай бұрын
obama
@MeatbagSlayer4 ай бұрын
SODA
@eg55584 ай бұрын
obama
@Reinoiro4 ай бұрын
Obomna😢
@josemantua88084 ай бұрын
I saw the other day that you went to a tournmant, how did it go?
@posobio4 ай бұрын
Not me running BWOU hail stall and laughing at 0:32
@agencybenefactor27304 ай бұрын
Can we get a dark mode friendly version of your videos?
@garrickdavisii51394 ай бұрын
No Obama references, 9/10.
@Shadowity4 ай бұрын
I feel like the difference between 60 speed and 30 speed is effectively nothing. Not literally obviously but you're already outspeeding almost nothing so dumping that bad speed to awful isn't really much of a loss.
@vez38344 ай бұрын
Precisely why it's better to have those stat points in offense or defense. And now it's better in Trick room, in theory.
@s6rcee4 ай бұрын
COLD TREE MENTIONED!!!!
@waltterikoponen84264 ай бұрын
For some reason I've always liked abomasnow? Snover itself was adorable and i loved it's cry... Maybe that's why? Anyway, why does abomasnow have soundproof as a hidden ability? It should have thick fat atleast :/
@lordmew54 ай бұрын
He has one again read my mind
@SporianSummit4 ай бұрын
i, dont want alot for christmas...
@JusticeForIanRobb4 ай бұрын
Mega Obama. Maybe Obamas last name is obama and his first name is Mega...
@abhinandhari78124 ай бұрын
...I am sad to learn that abomassnow has such mediocre stats. Not a competitive player... But damn, I love the pokemon
@conrad-ft2dk4 ай бұрын
Wow that’s interesting
@nicolasromani35234 ай бұрын
From what region was Abomasnow? Sinnoh or Unova?
@Pearl_Blossom4 ай бұрын
Sinnoh
@felipesilva37324 ай бұрын
Mega snow shouldn't lose speed and should have Slush Rush
@ysshuu4 ай бұрын
Forgive me for slandering his name, but is abomasnow the worst weather setter?