A PowerPoint about Doubles-Only Moves

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[@Cosplaybuddygiraffes]

Fun fact: Riolu was briefly a more viable pick than Lucario in VGC because of Prankster-priority Coaching to basically give your teammate a free Bulk Up before they move

[@Cosplaybuddygiraffes]

@@mmmdsdads oh yeah this too!! Trick Room turning into Max Guard which can then be copied by Riolu is some next level gaming

[@unoptimalpunishrio9885]

Damn right

[@dse763]

@@mmmdsdads Lucario has horribly mid abilities, which is why it fall down many tiers in Smogon and never used serious ly in VGC. You would think it would have an aura based boosting ability but nope.

[@solstardragon]

I swear Riolu is 1 support move away from being completely cracked. Priority Coaching is very good but the rest of it's support pool is a lot to be desired. It's got weathers, but not another always relevant supporting move. Upper Hand, Coaching, Detect and then your choice of Feint, Weather, ect. Copy Cat to let it flip around trick rooms or you can Tera dark and flip around a taunt... but really it's lacking in some form of consistent utility other than Coaching.

[@butteredsalmonella]

Riolu 🤝 Murkrow 🤝 Clefairy Being better than their evos because of an ability their evolution lost

[@Foolish_Spoon]

the duality of helping hand: either literally useless or a terrifying thing to witness

[@balrog-alt]

Derple has the KZbin comment algorithm in shambles

[@Party-Rocker007]

My favorite “”doubles move”” are quiver dance and petal dance, “those aren’t doubles moves” they are when oricorio is on the field

[@frownyclowny6955]

Man I wish Oricorio got more use it is so silly i love it

[@SuperNintendawg]

​@@frownyclowny6955I used tf out of oricorio-electric in UU at the start of this gen. Perfect tera user with revelation dance.

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

fun fact: indeedee commonly runs four of the move types i talk about here. follow me for redirection, trick room, the spread move dazzling gleam, and helping hand.

[@Ahntire]

Pretty nice tip.

[@ralfisme]

I've seen some run a healing move aswell.

[@snare97]

clefairy literally runs 3 supporting moves and protect 😂

[@muhammadibrahim9707]

That's the exact set i run on my indeedee😭😭😭😭

[@FranceDestroyer]

my favorite slide tuber

[@Ragnarok8864]

Smh didn’t even mention the funny monke move Instruct

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

Fuuuuck I knew I missed something I must make a mention of it somewhere

[@druidt8949]

​@@ElectricWindGirlFriend You could make a part 2 focusing on specific doubles all-stars, since you also didn't mention stuff like Grimmsnarl and base Sableye being better than it's Mega

[@Retroduck7]

im sorry girlie... but the wolfey trans rights amoongus wasn't running pollen puff... the trans rights amoongus cannot heal you...

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

i know but i had to get a trans rights out there

[@Retroduck7]

@@ElectricWindGirlFriend true! trans rights!

[@yamummyyummy4785]

​​@@ElectricWindGirlFriend more like trans wrongs. neilvgc did nothing wrong

[@MarioGarcia-lh5wm]

hey, could you explain me the trans right amoonguss joke? I have no idea what you are talking about lol

[@yamummyyummy4785]

then neil went up against wolfeyvgc at a recent tournament and lost by a single turn to an amoongus. and now the trans won't shut up about trans right amoongus or whatever. they're good at warping situations into false validation for themselves. need to feel validated about their genital mutilation fetish and what not

[@WeedleTwineedle]

I'm so sad they removed mat block, greninja could have had a tiny niche but noo 😢

[@Mognet_t]

You'll always be the GOAT of Ally Switch tho

[@CBSnB2R]

Avalugg learns wide guard (don't use it).

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

I’m going to go use avalugg now (this is a lie)

[@DaMrWiz]

I'm glad Amoongus hasn't taken on any habits from its cousin Ferrothorn

[@nicocchi]

Homophobic Ferrothorn was the funniest competitive Pokémon meme just for how ridiculous and out of nowhere it was

[@Savings_and_Grift_Plan]

@@nicocchi I'm out of the loop on Amoongus / Ferrothorn. Is this a reference to some shitpost/meme?

[@ImThylacine]

Replying here so I get looped in on this when someone explains the reference 😅

[@enbypolyshostan]

for those wondering the meme comes from a r/stunfisk post about what the meta would be like if ferrothorn was secretly a homophobe. no i can’t explain any further

[@PrinceSilvermane]

There's also Decorate from Alcremie. Swords Dance+Nasty Plot for your ally. Technically it's not a doubles only move because you can target the enemy but why would you want to do that.

[@Quasi-Competent]

It could be really funny with Mirror Herb maybe

[@bmoney7763]

Mirror herb ditto

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

To shut down the opposing Malamar? ...I see your point.

[@LoMaLouis]

Psyspam needs coaching, how else could they recover from being the most annoying archetype?!?!

[@tennisman8304]

The hate on psyspam is greatly exaggerated. It’s not as good as some people think or else we would see it get more consistent results.

[@df0rdeath58]

@@tennisman8304it lost tremendously due to open team sheets.

[@tennisman8304]

@@df0rdeath58 Yeah there is no way to tell if your opponent has psyspam before you see the open team sheet.

[@f4Rl34ng3Igrl]

@@tennisman8304this isnt rly true. in tournament the reason ppl hate psyspam is that u can run 2-2-2 cores that can b changed out with basically no abandon. teamsheet killed this issue as folks could see the 2-2-2 sets beforehand and prepare much more effectively

[@D-S-G.]

Rototiller: look what they need to mimic a fraction of my power

[@kalarse]

Fun fact since I read Boingus: Priority can be side used in Terrain, allowing wacky stuff like Aqua Jet self proc'ing Weakness Policy Weak Armor shenanigans in terrain

[@Lernyd]

My favourite use for this is on a really weird team I built around Lurantis, if I'm facing psyspam I can target a fake tears into my lurantis and eat up anything they try to throw at me

[@SkyNinja759]

Primarina can side proc weakness policy on an Armarouge with weak armour. Turn 1, priority enabled, +2 speed and +2 special attack, off of a weak attack because Primarina is a special 'mon. Now you have an Armarogue that is insane outside of trick room alongside a mon that's probably going to try to calm mind boost turn 2 if the opponent foces down the immediate threat.

[@danielhale1]

The single player game gives you all these moves and the first thing you do is replace them, because the single-player experience makes dead sure you'll only get to use them maybe a couple of times, and even then you don't need 'em. Doubles is such a gimmick in the story, so it's weird that it's the official way to play as soon as you explore competitive. That's a bit of a shock, and I think it's a flaw of the single-player game design.

[@icenovice]

There are two wolves: Shedinja gets Ally Switch, and Shedinja gets Rest.

[@franciscofernandezmedrano9613]

I mean it has a niche having rest with shedinja

[@spyke7311]

Everyone making fun of Dragon Cheer until i bring out the crit boosted Palkia (they are going to cry because of hiw much it sucks)

[@Miguel_I_guess]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Fire Torkoal Helping Hand Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Dondozo in Sun: 479-564 (95 - 111.9%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO is crazy

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

Anything that can ohko dondozo is insane, let alone a RESIST

[@Cosplaybuddygiraffes]

My GOAT Torkoal once again proving her weight in gold

[@GravityIsFalling]

81.3% actually since VGC is played at level 50 not 100

[@Miguel_I_guess]

@@GravityIsFalling even crazier dawg

[@druidt8949]

​@@Miguel_I_guess Welcome to why hazards aren't used in VGC, Torkoal is not an outlier when it comes to damage

[@wertylegends4314]

Hearing incin being called "possibly" the best...

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

I could see like kyogre or tornadus being better but yeah it’s probs incin

[@portwise23]

Most of these, in gen 5 and 6, were MUCH more viable and useful in triple battles. Greninja's Mat block especially, allowing you to protect your side while allowing 2 teammates to use free moves instead of just one. (Such as a Tailwind Talonflame and a Water Spout Mega Blastoise)

[@Poopoocachoo]

I miss triple battles

[@lory3771]

I have trauma from doing so many of them to get a Life Orb in B2W2 for my magic guard Reuniclus or Sheer Force Darmanitan

[@paletuna2703]

“Forgotten” only if you’re a singles player! (Come play doubles it’s fun it’s fast single restricted is actually kind of interesting)

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

I do! It’s actually the format I first started with

[@paletuna2703]

Funnily enough I started with gen V singles, so kinda the opposite case

[@akshayreddy4071]

Trying to make singles players fight calyrex again must be some sort of war crime

[@kidsannd]

don't pledge moves fall into this category.

[@incandescence5547]

Fun fact: Wide Guard still works in singles! I know someone that used Wide Guard Gigalith in singles to completely wall Earthquake Excadrill (unlike Protect, Wide Guard can be used multiple times in a row)

[@goldensupmanz]

Amoongus and ferrothorn boutta start throwing hands

[@protol5683]

I really, really wish they’d make another Colosseum type game so all these nifty ass moves could be used more in single player than the 2 dozen or so double battles spotted throughout every campaign. Also can someone please explain to me what Trans Ally Amoongus means?

[@sorrelfox]

Finals of a VGC tournament was Wolfey vs. Neil. Wolfey won with his Amoonguss, and Neil was revealed soon afterward to be transphobic (along with the whole “pretending to be a minor and catfishing people online” thing…), so that’s where it comes from. ^ ^

[@Iris_Descent]

dragon cheer doesn't give crit boost only to dragon types, it just gives them a +2 crit ratio boost, while it gives +1 to every other type. though you could argue that using it on dragons is the only viable way

[@drumer960]

You have it for use with a dragon mon but you might use it on something else situationally like needing to crit through defense boosts or lowered offense

[@ryebreaddesalsa8157]

I mean dragon cheering a sniper kingdra is prety cool

[@itzkatz9506]

Me when i use after you chlorophyll hliligant with eruption torkoal

[@exotic9417]

I have no idea why Pollen Puff defeats transphobia but Trans Rights Amoongus

[@edgargaebolg9307]

Wolfey won a tournament with Amoonguss as the last mon standing and his opponent in the finals turned out to be a transphobe

[@areyouserious2800]

H. Hand + W. spout in rain is fun to use

[@jonathanhernandez2392]

Off-topic: Your channel name makes it sound like you’re dating Zapdos or something. Thank you so much for attending my comment

[@ninjabreadman22]

Doubles is the format of kings, glad to see some art on the ultimate way to battle

[@lexo632]

This is why Cassette Beasts competitive is going to be insane I hope

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

Apparently, DQM3's competitive is awful, though...

[@lexo632]

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 what? I'm talking about Cassette Beasts

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

@@lexo632 DQM3 also has team VS teams battles, and it doesn't makes it better. Yeah, that's a weird link to make. But Cassette Beasts competitive is an interesting idea, I agree.

[@lexo632]

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 what even is DQM3

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

@@lexo632 Dragon Quest Monsters The Dark Prince. The last one.

[@OhMercyMe]

this has nothing to do with the video but i truly imagine electricwindgirlfriend as a 4 foot tall little goblin guy

[@melodywolff6346]

I feel like Mat Block isn't really a doubles move, but a triples move. The lack of priority wasn't as big as deal in triples in XY imo, because Greninja's speed hadn't been powercreep yet. Not that it was ever the best move in existence, but in triples with a super fast Greninja, you could use it to let your other two mons safely setup, or use that first turn deal some damage while you were fairy safe. There's much more a trade-off in doubles, where you trade half your moves to keep your mons safe, vs 1/3 your moves in triples.

[@relay6109]

I like to think that I know Pokémon pretty well. I’ve played through every generation, play PS frequently, know a bunch of the lore, etc etc etc. As a result, I rarely hear things about it I didn’t already know. So excuse me, but what the F*** is GEAR UP? Who gets it? Has it ever been clicked by a human player of the game?

[@violetmiraidon]

Trans rights amoonguss has defeated homophobic ferrothorn

[@eliasstenbak5689]

Acupressure is almost, it's just moody at home

[@felipesilva3732]

Hot take, starting in gen 3, all battles should've been double battles. "Do you want to teach your pokemon helping hand?" WHY WOULD I?! YOU BARELY PUT DOUBLE BATTLES IN THE MAIN STORY?!?!?!?!

[@armorbearer9702]

Shedinja gets Ally Switch: VGC here I come! *Enemy uses Rock Slide Shedinja: Noooooo!!!!

[@craniifer]

I don't get the trans rights Amoongus reference, but I'm sure it counters Ferrothorn in some capacity.

[@bisharppro7776]

Amoongus did the last hits against a transphobe in an official tournament, sadly, the transphobe wasn't using amoongus

[@Crembaw]

I cannot comment on the matter as I do not play VGC, but after watching the video, I still feel I cannot comment on the matter. Trans rights.

[@johannesgutenburg9837]

she hold on my hands till i nothing

[@MoonDanceGames]

Great video as always. Might I suggest taking a breath between switching to the next move? lol

[@nerdyfalco408]

Me at 7 thinking helping hand and follow me were litterally useless because the Fire Red AI couldn't use them

[@sythrus]

Instruct is my personal favourite to use, absolutely insane with the right team comp, especially considering orangoru gets telepathy

[@Placeholder501]

I think this is the first time I’ve heard about Quash being useful.

[@dasamont8274]

I wonder how a protect move that worked like protect, but only targeted your ally would potentially change the meta. If it was attached to a bulky mon that could take a hit, I could see it being quite useful, or to make it really useful (awful), give it to a pokemon that has access to protect and metal burst as well, so you'd have to guess if it will protect its ally, itself, or take the hit and return the damage harder. Urshifu would counter it pretty hard, but not much one can do about that. Also, it may require them to code it so it gives the chance to fail the repeated protects to the pokemon that got protected instead of the one who used it, so you'd be unable to constantly protect one pokemon while both of them were on the field, and give something like attack deoxys the ability to hit every second turn while staying completely safe behind a protect every turn.

[@LotusTheWise]

TRANS RIGHTS AMOONGUS SHALL SAVE US

[@xxzmaster04xx29]

So Ally Switch is like dealing with +2 5 Supreme Overlord Kingambit w/Sucker Punch and Kowtow Cleave, but less oppresive but more annoying? I think Ally Switch is my new favourite move now 😈

[@toppo8091]

This reminds of an ability rather than a move is Cherrims ability. It raises the special attack of all of its allies, not just itself. Unfortunately, it’s Cherrim

[@meannush7552]

finally some doubles content

[@MrMcreethan]

One day I will get the fabled psyspam video…. Banger video nonetheless EWGF!!! ❤

[@ttorr7474]

Another EWGF banger

[@thembosupremepizza1827]

can you do an episode on the halfing of damage for spread moves

[@dream_weaver6207]

Coming out as trans is like using rage powder irl

[@vossboss220]

His narration is somehow fast but understandable

[@tempy2440]

But isn't ferrothorn trash in vgc? How does pollen puff defeat them?

[@boraccichannel]

2:52 I'm sorry, I don't know, and now I feel like I need to know

[@JoseTheAlolachu]

WAIT HOWL AFFECTS THE OTHER ALLY POKÉMON TOO?! you learn something new every day lol

[@bluekirby_64]

It got that buff in gen 7 or 8

[@kawaiiempoleon8721]

thank you for informing me mat block exists why was greninja bad in doubles again

[@MochachiiinoWorks]

me typing wackass bullshit serebii on my google search bar

[@flyingoctopus4304]

I think Coaching doesn't get much play because Howl exists. Getting two ATK booosts on the same turn is a lot more valuable then the defense boost I think.

[@kiyubee1925]

I cannot say how Ally Switch makes me feel or i will be suspended for six months

[@ghostyspaghetti5355]

Any context for the trans rights amoongus? I’m all for it but I’m confused on the if you know you know part.

[@sorrelfox]

Finals of a VGC tourney was Neil vs. Wolfey. Wolfey beat him with his Amoonguss and Neil was soon revealed to be a transphobe (among other things). So that’s the context from what I’ve heard ^ ^

[@ghostyspaghetti5355]

@@sorrelfox ah I see, thank you for bestowing this gift upon a mortal

[@nicolasromani3523]

I know how to play singles, but when it comes to doubles i am clueless, it feels like a different game entirely.

[@moyai5317]

Talk about other vgc metas from other games like bdsp or lgpe would be interesting to know the meta

[@memesupreme5502]

I wish enemy switch was a move. Allows your support mon to swap sides on the field and makes both trainers have to throw out their pokemon extra hard to reach the other side

[@franciscofernandezmedrano9613]

It makes more sense to just swich the enemy

[@egbertmilton4003]

We need to see Ally Switch back on top again. We need Shedinja to be number one again, it will be so peak

[@jcnot9712]

Has a mon with instruct ever won a major tournament?

[@gregc5392]

I always use tera fire choiced Eruption in the sun and I fucking love it

[@riannihdin]

'Hold hands'

[@oscarodyssey8462]

Eatin macaroni rn good videos

[@SnoFitzroy]

"pollen puff can defeat transphobia" i can't tell if im out of the loop or if this is just a miss

[@Zeo--]

Dragon Cheer could have also been activated by throat spray but nope...

[@themoolacato94tuna4]

anyone care to explain how pollen puff beat transphobia?

[@fen_u9401]

also lets not forget, decorate alcremie just giving a pokemon a free weakness polic boost but yea, at the cost of... well... using alcremie and also if the opposing ogerpon (or the likes) redirects your decorate... you are giga-fucked.

[@q-bert3414]

rage powder? sounds about right...

[@borederlands5387]

Instruct is kino too

[@saeedrazavi4428]

Trans Rights Amoomguss 💙💗🤍💗💙🍄

[@Giga-lemesh]

Trans rights amoonguss

[@emerald6489]

Can someone help me understand the defeating transphobia part? I dont understand it lol.

[@ConductorElcrest]

Amoonguss famously defeat a transphobe

[@emerald6489]

​@@ConductorElcrestAmoonguss is no longer cringe ro me.

[@TheSpeep]

Style move: After You your opponent to get the Analytic boost on your partner Pokemon. Is it a good idea, ever? Probably not. Will they see it coming? Absolutely the fck not!

[@BirdThrOwO]

cvnty regirock with a handbag 😍

[@jeffperson3765]

Amoonguss for trans rights

[@Adunkadunka]

Can I get some love for my doubles abilities!!!!!! Unburden + Symbiosis is!!!!! An option!!!!!!

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

def going to make a video about these at some point, i love doubles abilities

[@ryanlally8116]

If I had a nickel for every competitive Pokémon meme made in response to homophobia/transphobia, I’d own r/stunfisk

[@jpflame21]

Wait expanding force is a spread move???? Wow

[@phyllotaxis]

Only in psychic terrain, otherwise it's single-target

[@mushublaze]

trans rights amoonguss??? did i miss something? XD

[@cford6679]

Dude, great videos but SLOW DOWN anyone speaking English as a second language is going to struggle to understand

[@cunnyravu]

Trans rights are human rights

[@alguem5645]

0 views in 1 minute. Truly the biggest fall off.

[@kandyeggs]

Trans rights Amoongus

[@leaffinite3828]

Hey smogon btw stop using doubles sets for the free for all format im tired of getting wideguard its literally useless

[@leaffinite3828]

Helping hand is kinda funny tho

[@ConductorElcrest]

It took me a second to get the defeating transphobia joke LOL

[@ThinkingReality]

TRANS RIGHTS

[@IronFairy]

Based Trans Rights Amoonguss

[@4ft1inAlpha]

can someone pretty please explain the joke

[@SomeAsian]

​@@4ft1inAlpha Amoongus is a fantastic support mon, and has been for over a decade. One could even call it an ally.

[@hellothere2570]

​@4ft1inAlpha wolfe glick recently won the orlando regionals in large part due to amoonguss being amazing in the finals. After the tournament people learned that the player who got 2nd at orlando was a transphobe, and so amoonguss has become the counter to transphobia

[@memey6978]

Ferrothorn on the other hand.. ​@@SomeAsian

[@AppleBiscuits]

Finally, a worthy opponent for Ferrothorn.

[@Elizabeth-by7gz]

:)

[@ojutay8375]

Pollen Puff says Trans Rights

[@CowgirlShebop]

Amoongus: Transphobe Destroyer

[@HikasCorner]

I am unaware of the amoonguss transphobia/trans rights meme. Please someone explain :( Trans rights 4ever tho, even if I hate amoonguss

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

Amoonguss beat a transphobe in finals of a regional and became an icon

[@maaren3150]

@@ElectricWindGirlFriend ohhhhh, that explains.

[@HikasCorner]

@@ElectricWindGirlFriend i still hate amoonguss but just this once: LETS GO AMOONGUSS! 🏳️‍⚧️