In the part 8:41 there's a fallacy. The factorization by x+1 only holds when n+1 is odd(n is even), whereas if n is odd, there's no particular prime that divides all 2^(n+1)+1. (It is clear by the example; Fermat Primes, form of 2^2^n+1) However, we can show that n should be even. If n is odd, 2^(n+1)+1 is congruent with 2 on modulo 3. A perfect square, (p^m)^2 should be congurent with 0 or 1 on modulo 3. Hence it contradicts, so n should be even.
@timurpryadilin88303 жыл бұрын
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@kemalkayraergin56553 жыл бұрын
thank you for explaining why n is even
@wesleydeng713 жыл бұрын
4:07 He should've moved p^2m to the right side which would avoid the error and lead to a quicker solution.
@rohitg15293 жыл бұрын
Mersenne primes are of the form 2^n - 1 not 2^n + 1 x^n - 1 = (x-1)*p(x) for some polynomial p(x), but if x=2 then (x-1) = 1 then the mersenne number is not necessarily prime What he showed in the video is accurate (but yes, only for odd n)
@게르마늄-w5b3 жыл бұрын
@@rohitg1529 yep thanks for the point! I was meant to say Fermat Primes, by the way. But since there exists some primes, there are no common factor that divides them all
@manucitomx3 жыл бұрын
Holy Diophantus, professor, what a way to hide a 3-4-5 triangle! Thank you!
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@SayHelllllo3 жыл бұрын
we are getting closer and closer to the Fermat's Last Theorem
@wisdomokoro88983 жыл бұрын
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@markvp713 жыл бұрын
Yeah, like having walked the first mile of a thousand miles.
@WhattheHectogon3 жыл бұрын
At 11:25, a simpler argument would be to ask, which two powers of 2 differ by 2? Why 2^2 and 2^1, course :)
@replicaacliper3 жыл бұрын
In fact that trick can be used as early as 7:30 and it would shorten the video by a few minutes.
@davidblauyoutube3 жыл бұрын
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@Qermaq3 жыл бұрын
I noticed right off that this is a Pythagorean triple with a and b both having one prime factor, if multiple times. As all PTs except one have at least one multi-prime composite leg, it's gotta be that triple.
@GreenMeansGOF3 жыл бұрын
8:20 You are assuming that n is even(also the plus/minus 1 should just be +1 but whatever). I wonder if we can justify that assumption.
@brankojangelovski31053 жыл бұрын
You didnt show that n+1 must be odd in order to do that factorization at 8:41
@victorclaytonbarnett29593 жыл бұрын
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@fracaralho3 жыл бұрын
The disdain for the idea that 0 is a natural number is so strong that he prefers to call the set of odd numbers 2Z + 1 instead of 2N + 1.
@PubicGore2 жыл бұрын
Actually he doesn't have any disdain for the idea. In fact, he cares so little that he writes N often because he's just lazy, but has said many times that he doesn't care whether or not 0 is an element of N.
@fracaralho2 жыл бұрын
@@PubicGore I've seen him say as much before, but I don't buy it.
@goodplacetostop29733 жыл бұрын
4:38 Good Place To Be 13:37 Good Place To Stop
@Mystery_Biscuits3 жыл бұрын
Leet
@XavierMamet3 жыл бұрын
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@goodplacetostop29733 жыл бұрын
@@Mystery_Biscuits You’re a man of culture as well
@jimmykitty3 жыл бұрын
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@TedHopp3 жыл бұрын
It's not really a geometry problem. It's a number theory problem dressed up as geometry.
@iwonder22183 жыл бұрын
This problem is very trivial due to the wording since it implies upfront that there is only one solution. 3-4-5 triangle comes to mind immediately where 4 is 2^2. If the problem said find all solutions then what you did was a solid method.
3 жыл бұрын
Depends on how you interpret the wording. I always assume that you still have to prove that there's exactly one solution.
@Bazzzzz933 жыл бұрын
8:10 wrong. This factorization works only for odd n+1
@vanambalong33253 жыл бұрын
I agree
@emanuelvillanueva92403 жыл бұрын
n+1 is odd it is 3
@SlipperyTeeth3 жыл бұрын
At 7:20 you could've cut out a step by factoring the difference of squares right then and there. You'd get that p^m is trapped between two powers of 2 and thus p^m=3.
@federicovolpe33893 жыл бұрын
8:21 the factorization is true only if n is even (and thus n+1 is odd). You could've factored p^2m-1 into (p^m+1)(p^m-1), after that since they must be both powers of 2 and they differ by 2, they can only be 2 and 4, so p^m=3 and so p=3 m=1. Then 2^(m+1)=3^2-1, so m=2. Subbing back into the original equation you get r=5.
@marsgal423 жыл бұрын
I found myself thinking of the usual hint that such problems have very few solutions, often just one. We have one solution by inspection. Is it unique?
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@PunmasterSTP3 жыл бұрын
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@thoughtfuljanitor66273 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I understand what's being said around 8:41 We factor 1 + 2^(n+1) into 3*N for some integer N Take the case n = 3 : then 2^(n+1) = 2^4 = 16 However 16+1 cannot be factored as a multiple of 3 So i'm not sure I understand why we can factor it that way
@zadsar34063 жыл бұрын
Right. It only works for odd exponents, so for even n. You could do: 2^(n + 1) = p^(2m) - 1 = (p^m - 1)(p^m + 1) Now, it is impossible that both p^m - 1 and p^m + 1 are divisible by 4. Therefore, p^m - 1 = 2 This immediately gives you p = 3 and m = 1.
@guycomments3 жыл бұрын
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@ZipplyZane3 жыл бұрын
Toward the end you started skipping a bit. I think you should have shown how you got x=1 and y=2, as well as actually plugging things in to get n=2. For the former, you can note that 2^(y-x) - 1 must be odd, and thus is equal to 1. So 2^x=2, and thus x=1. Plug that back in, and you get 2^(y-1) - 1 = 1, so 2^(y-1) = 2. Thus y-1=1 and y=2. Plugging in for the other you get that 3^2 - 1 = 2^(n+1) => 8 = 2^(n+1) => n+1=3 => n=2.
@Pablo360able3 жыл бұрын
A strange corollary to this result - really, to the fact that there is one singular solution - is that no power of 2 besides 4 can be a leg of a Pythagorean triple where the other leg is a prime number.
@caspermadlener41913 жыл бұрын
WRONG!!! YOU MADE THE MISTAKE OF FACTORISING 2ⁿ+1!!! IT ONLY WORKS WHEN n IS ODD!!!
@tahirimathscienceonlinetea42733 жыл бұрын
Very nice Michael you're doing a great job.I love this kind of things which you can evaluate the radius of circle with insufficient information .keep going man 👍👍
@_simobr3 жыл бұрын
I immediately thought about the Pythagorean triple
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@markvp713 жыл бұрын
I started with the fact that if a^2+b^2=c^2, with a, b and c integers, then there are integers x, y, and z such that a = x^2-y^2, b = 2xy and c = x^2 + y^2. It is easy to see that z = 1 in this problem. Since a or b has to be a power of 2, it can only be b, so x = 2^s and y = 2^t. From there on it is easy.
@AriosJentu3 жыл бұрын
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@Jared78733 жыл бұрын
The radius is also prime. 😁
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@DouglasZwick3 жыл бұрын
13:22 "That Finnishes the solution to this problem"
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@eemelinissila13583 жыл бұрын
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@doctorb92643 жыл бұрын
The old difference of squares trick !
@szkoclaw3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful problem, where evennness and primeness of the number lets you discard all of the bullshit and just have fun.
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@nareshmehndiratta3 жыл бұрын
YOU MUST SIMPLIFY MATHS OF ALL PHYSICS
@quantumloc81593 жыл бұрын
у отца пустая квартира, это значит не тждома
@laurynastruskauskas65863 жыл бұрын
The intro is sick
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@shifta77263 жыл бұрын
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@tychophotiou69623 жыл бұрын
I thought to myself "it must be a pythagorean triplet", so could it be 3,4,5 5,12,13 7,24,25 8,15,17.... I checked whether 3,4,5 satisfied the conditions and it did.... Solved in 15 seconds!!!
@threstytorres43063 жыл бұрын
Question: For positive integer n, let S(n) denote the sum of the digits of n. E.g S(24) = 2 + 4 = 6 S(92) = 9 + 2 = 11 S(200) = 2 + 0 + 0 = 2 Find the smallest positive integer satisfying, S(n) = S(n + 864) = 20 Source: Aime 2015 I Problems/Problem 8
@rohitg15293 жыл бұрын
The results is actually a trivial consequence of the Catalan conjecture (now a theorem) that the only solution of x^a - y^b = 1 for x,y,a,b being positive integers is 3^2 - 2^3 = 1 Proving the Catalan conjecture is another matter though :P
@paulkohl92673 жыл бұрын
A satisfying ending.
@peterburbery23413 жыл бұрын
3-4-5 triangle. This is the first Math Olympiad question I have solved myself!
@slawaxas3 жыл бұрын
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@rogerkearns80943 жыл бұрын
To me it was obviously the 3,4,5 triangle from the start, but perhaps that's not the point.
@TJStellmach3 жыл бұрын
You still need to determine that that solution is unique.
@rogerkearns80943 жыл бұрын
@@TJStellmach Fair enough, thanks. :)
@pierremarcotte62993 жыл бұрын
2:38 - Why is r odd?
@GabeKorgood3 жыл бұрын
If 3,4,5 is the only Pythagorean triple where both legs are powers of primes and the hypotenuse is odd, that should be enough to prove the problem without all the number theory
@JoGurk3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and how do you prove that?!
@GabeKorgood3 жыл бұрын
@@JoGurk some of the many known principles of Pythagorean triples are as follows: 1. Exactly one of a, b is divisible by 2 (is even), but never c. 2. Exactly one of a, b is divisible by 3, but never c. 3. Exactly one of a, b is divisible by 4, but never c (because c is never even). 4. Exactly one of a, b, c is divisible by 5. The 3, 4, 5 triple is the only set of numbers that satisfies these principles and the requirement that both legs be powers of primes.
@JoGurk3 жыл бұрын
@@GabeKorgood alright, yeah. Sorry :D
@quantumloc81593 жыл бұрын
на тебе р
@tomkerruish29823 жыл бұрын
The requirement that r be odd is superfluous. If r were even, then both p^m and q^n would need to be even, which would require p=q=2, which is impossible.
@n8cantor3 жыл бұрын
p and q could both be odd, but there are no solutions for that case either.
@alainbarnier19953 жыл бұрын
Extraordinaire !!
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@minwithoutintroduction3 жыл бұрын
واصل.قناة رائعة.
@kevin3265203 жыл бұрын
I try to do this myself and when I reach the point at 7:20 I just make use of the Catalan conjecture since I dont know what to do even I know the answer lol