A quick review of the Lenovo 10w

The Lenovo 10w is a Windows ARM laptop the size of a Surface Go!
Mine has:
-Snapdragon 7c gen 2
-4gb RAM
-64gb storage
I like it, but it has basically no storage(After the Windows install, you have 10-15GB free for every program you want in all practicality) or RAM, so ... know what you're getting into.
Also, Windows ARM is not "ready for prime time" if you're comparing it directly to, for instance, MacOS. I've needed to restart it 3x for random bugs (the display flipped around once, once when I undocked and redocked I couldn't change the screen brightness anymore, and a third time for a reason I can't remember), and emulation is not nearly as fast as the M1 (though maybe this is because the M1 is just way faster with, well, everything). Maybe Windows 12 will help?
github.com/Rap... is the debloating script I used.

[@carlw6247]

Good job! Thanks for sharing your video here. I think I would have enjoyed your longer first video as well. You realize that you are nicely ahead of most people in testing a WOA tablet, right? The only difference is that you didn't need to wait until after 5/20/2024 for a higher performance one with 16 GB RAM, like many other people will soon try. But we didn't get to hear more specifics and what gave you a little trouble on WOA. Good point on the reboots needed to fix a few things, but even x86-based tablets require these to fix a few Windows update issues, so some of those might not have been WOA-specific. Also, good point on choosing a WOA-native browser, but since Chrome has an ARM64 version out now, then there are 3+ options to choose from. Yeah, SW in the MS store probably works. Did you run into any SW NOT in the store that didn't work or gave you trouble before or after this review? BTW, if I were you, prior to your Lenovo W10, I would have brought a Surface charger (or even a USB-C charger) to your friend's house. The Surface Go 2/3 are great as small, light x86 Windows tablets that pretty much do it all. I prefer the M3 or I3 versions with 8GB RAM, and, yes, you must have a charger along, since they do go dead in no time, but they work greatly when you have a charger or power bank handy. Never any compatibility issues. But the W10 started to change this (as you showed here), and 5/20 announcement and WOA tablets after that will, apparently, change everything. Thanks again.

[@rainbow_mess]

Thanks! Yeah, I realized nobody actually reviewed one of these, that's the only reason I posted actually :) In regards to your other stuff: I know I was completely able to bring a charger: I simply didn't really want to (also my Surface Go 1's screen touchscreen started to mysteriously go out soon after the 30 day refurb warranty for some reason ... mysterious ... but also, I was just curious about this and wanted a reason to get it, honestly! A trifecta of reasons). I tried a bunch of very low-end games in Steam: heroes of might and magic 3 doesn't work, but dungeon keeper does. Bloons works on it, which is pretty great. I ran into a few cases where the MS Store didn't actually trigger ARM downloads which was weird ... I feel like a lot of things that seemed like they were due to "incompatibility" though were actually due to the speed of the processor, low RAM, or low disk space. But even beyond that, I think I mentioned it, but I've had like ... five or six just random freezes that needed reboots on ARM, which is more than I've had on my plethora of Windows laptops up until now. Things like the screen just turning off, or screen orientation mysteriously not updating (and needing a reboot). This is of course a sample size of 1 though, with all the caveats that brings! I think the Snapdragon 8 processors were a step above this, and I'm sure the Snapdragon Elite will be a big step over that. And the arm experience - low heat, massive battery life, no fan - is great: I haven't experienced something like it in x86. Possibly just because companies aren't setting TDP low enough for my tastes, but I am excited to see how the X Elite does when it comes out in like a month. :)

[@erickaphin8861]

Nice concise review, good to see you and another one of your videos. ✌️

[@rainbow_mess]

Thanks :) I've been meaning to make a bunch more honestly, but work and life is just so busy (and I keep having to adjust my video capture settings when I'm recording). At some point I'll have more time!

[@satisbas]

Question, can you run 32bit Windows application on this Snapdragon cpu? I understand some kind of emulation is running on top of the Snapdragon? Are you able to add a normal logitec extra camera with x86 drivers? I gues not?

[@rainbow_mess]

Hey, I don't use this much anymore but plugged it in to check, and I was able to use a logitech webcam (the c920) fine with it! (It did not install extra drivers - I assume it's using the generic microsoft drivers, but it looked good enough for me.) I am pretty sure that you also can run 32bit windows applications in emulation mode. They're slower than they would be otherwise, but ... 70% of them would run fine. If there's an emulated app that you 100% need to run I wouldn't recommend windows ARM right now (or possibly ever, depending on how the emulation layer comes along).

[@guoxue9880]

Hi, I have a engineering 10w and I want to download the recovery image, but the sn is not valid. Could you please send me the sn or help me download the recovery image? Thank you.

[@Blasterxp]

I have trouble installing win11 23h2, it will not install

[@rainbow_mess]

what does it say? I have 23h2 installed on mine, no issues there (other than having to get the drive empty enough to fit windows ...)

[@pedrosmarks]

i wish this tablet has 8gb + 128gb.

[@rainbow_mess]

yeah ... me too. There's a version with 8gb+128gb actually, but it was $400 more when I was looking for it. At this point I'd say it's almost certainly not worth it - the new snapdragon things are so much more powerful, and an iPad and keyboard is generally going to still be more powerful than this. ... But I think if Lenovo re-released it with one of the new Snapdragon chips (and 8gb/128gb at least standard) it would be really great! We'll see if they do though.