In the Netherlands we had of course also suffered from this, someone had put the jammer in one of the antennas in a transmission tower, the batteries (actually a capacitor) were charged by the antenna radiation. Pretty genius
@BoB4jjjjs3 жыл бұрын
That is brilliant, though naughty!
@GeraldreiDaniel3 жыл бұрын
Charging with Radiation: 900000000%
@FoxADV3 жыл бұрын
Evil genius!
@mikerose14413 жыл бұрын
Sounds alot like today's wireless cellphone technology in the making
@mechadonia3 жыл бұрын
Whoah that’s insane
@AdamSWL3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the chaos caused nowadays if some random person came across a black box with an antenna attached to it left in place somewhere. Let alone if it was even broadcasting anything.
@glengraham70803 жыл бұрын
Where I lived about 5 years ago a farmer found a black box chained to an electricity pole. He called the police, who called the army who used a controlled explosion ... destroying the recording bat detector device a wildlife enthusiast had placed without asking the farmer 😂
@Pacmannion3 жыл бұрын
I find these jamming incidents so interesting.
@rogerlafrance63553 жыл бұрын
This was also done in the early repeater days in the US. It stopped when some hams were found bloodied behind the local pub or had their coax cut to bits. To be historic, till repeaters were activated, 75 Meter phone was most often the local (groundwave) chat band. 2 meters AM being rather limited fixed or mobile. This caused great divisions in local ham groups often splitting into two different clubs. Then there were the CBers who upgrading or not, who thought disruption was jolly good fun.
@CannaCJ3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like some blokes were looking to do a little fox hunting with a twist, but nobody was game.
@robertpulsin21113 жыл бұрын
Give me something GOOD! Like a traffic speed radar jammer!
@mencken83 жыл бұрын
Someone once remarked that human beings are in general pretty good unless they are afraid or bored. This is clearly an example of the latter, a chief plague in our time.
@davewalker71263 жыл бұрын
It was a game, just as much as making crop circles. I recall back in the day a lot of people had a lot of fun (yes they quite enjoyed the challenge) searching for the jammer, but just didn't twig there was more than one.
@richylad3 жыл бұрын
We saw what you did there, “twig” , CB
@arbutuswatcher3 жыл бұрын
Similar devices found in the U.S., both in the Amateur Radio & Citizen Band Spectrum. Some of the little buggers were pretty creative. It's interesting that this sort of thing wasn't isolated to just one area. Human Creativity....
@TheVicar3 жыл бұрын
I have a scanner in my house, high up in the hills near Chorley, and frequently hear a horse naying or coconut hoof sounds being blasted out over the North Wales and Merseyside area. Thats been going on for a couple of years now on 2m
@knoxieman3 жыл бұрын
Plenty of jammers round these parts still, mostly over in Daventy on GB3XX, when I say jammers read that as mostly local hams pontificating all day long in a tight group that could use simplex, its odd its either repeaters dont get used at all or the get used by a small selection of hams who almost certainly also have something to do with the repeater and dont want anyone else to use it. Great video though mate, I used to hear the LPWS on all the time when I first got licenced, he used to get on the Leamington repeater, to be honest I found it funny but I was just a kid back then.
@gb5uq3 жыл бұрын
They used to play some good music on Charlie Fox. Good repeater when it was clear. I used to be able to open it from a hand held Beofeng running half a Watt 40 miles away. 3XX has to be one of the worst, most of the time it seems down. Two metres has been dead in Daventry for years. Now they are messing with 23cms so now Daventry has three bands to listen to static from.
@mickgatz2143 жыл бұрын
The Arseholes of Radio! Again, great report Lewis. :) Thank you for sharing this.
@TRIPPLEJAY003 жыл бұрын
How interesting. GB3MH is run by (C.A.R.C) Crawley Amateur Radio Club, which is my home town. I listen to it regularly. Unfortunately I can't key up as I'm still waiting to do my licence. Thank you Lewis
@gb5uq3 жыл бұрын
Whats a license?.
@TRIPPLEJAY003 жыл бұрын
@@gb5uq Its spelt Licence here in UK. If you must know look it up in a thing called a dictionary.
@gb5uq3 жыл бұрын
@@TRIPPLEJAY00 I'm sure it is there in the UK. But you never get anything right. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/license?src=search-dict-box
@gb5uq2 жыл бұрын
@@AureliusR Exactly...
@electrocity20003 жыл бұрын
What a bunch of sad individuals. All that time and effort for nothing.
@davef.28113 жыл бұрын
And the purpose for doing this is what?
@MirlitronOne3 жыл бұрын
When tech geeks go bad.
@Rich-on6fe3 жыл бұрын
Or when scumbags gain a little technical know-how.
@adamgreen3563 жыл бұрын
I live in Worcester and had No idea all this happened just up the road in Malvern! The transmitter site you pictured is in such a weird location, it's half way down the hill face. Odd position since it doesn't cover half of it's target area! (For future videos is the locals pronounce 'Malvern' like 'MOLvern', Mol like Mole, rather than Mal like Malcolm) Recently found your channel and videos and I'm still finding more to watch on your channel weeks later! Keep up the grand work.
@busaade63413 жыл бұрын
Not just drop boxes but general abuse to many of the Worcestershire and Warwickshire repeaters. I remember those years, unfortunately one of the perpetrators is still active. See my comments elsewhere, you can go and research it on the net.
@NOWThatsRichy3 жыл бұрын
Interesting story, although what was the point of this elaborate exercise, was is just some techie geeky types having a laugh, or were they like the social media trolls of their day, doing it just to annoy certain other people?
@RingwayManchester3 жыл бұрын
All of the above mate
@onshisan3 жыл бұрын
It would be most interesting to consider some additional contextual information concerning the motivations (purported, presumed, speculated, etc.) of the jamming group in addition to the technical information and history of the incident presented here. I’m sure most of us have some familiarity with strange, often acrimonious, but sometimes apparently just silly jamming activities that seem well out of proportion to any potential benefit to those responsible. Providing some insight as to how this satisfies (or fails to, as the case may be) the people involved would be appreciated.
@RingwayManchester3 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t even born at the time mate I have no idea why they did it 😂
@onshisan3 жыл бұрын
@@RingwayManchester considering the average age of people in the hobby, I wonder if anyone involved is still kicking
@busaade63413 жыл бұрын
@@onshisan yes, maybe not one who abused / jammed MH but from that era search the net for G1MTT
@6643bear3 жыл бұрын
Great video Lewis , I really didn’t understand these people trying to ruin our pleasure and sometimes help Hans live by themselves. Regards 73s mark
@arthurtwoshedsjackson62663 жыл бұрын
Absolute outrageous behaviour !
@Mottersmotters3 жыл бұрын
I see where you are coming from but then on the other side we can see it as a game and try to find the device. So win win. Find the device then get to keep it 😁👍🏻 M7TRS
@Dave64track3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video you always get some people who have to spoil it for everybody else.
@Krow_GnoSIS_Cross_Bowoman Жыл бұрын
Basically in the entirety of KZbin history, ive written less than 15 comments ever(!) Like from 2005 til today, beneath twenty😊👌🏾😌Your content is clear factual and researched. Good work and I think you r taking a risque doing this WHICH I SUPPORT
@Ggordonhorseballs3 жыл бұрын
What an incredibly dastardly thing to do but very hard not to laugh at.
@markg6jvy1353 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Lewis and demonstrates that there were lots of skill, time and effort on both sides 🤔👌 👍👏👏
@Isochest3 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about 'MH being targeted but out of my range living in New Mills and then Oldham. We had enough problems in the North West particularly GB3MP then GB3MN. Anyone remember "Bellringer"? GB3HH was relatively clear of this and this was accessible from Staffordshire as well as Greater Manchester
@RingwayManchester3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard about bellringer!
@skysurferboy3 жыл бұрын
Dont know about the 'Bellringer' but there were quite a few 'Bellends' jamming the MCR repeaters in the late 80s/early 90s.
@Isochest3 жыл бұрын
@@skysurferboy Very true🤣
@DarranJHankey663 жыл бұрын
I remember that pratt 😡,,, great video as always Lewis
@2E0VCU3 жыл бұрын
GB3MH is now down the road from me in West Sussex
@ntmdisco3 жыл бұрын
GB3MH became GB3NW in worcester and it has also suffered jamming. I live near it and know the keeper, it has been switched off for about 18 months along with GB3MS back in 2016.
@wisteela3 жыл бұрын
Real shame that idiots cause the loss of repeaters.
@Dratchev2413 жыл бұрын
@@wisteela actually worst mistake is turning off the repeater cause of a jammer, when you do that the jammer wins cause NOBODY can use the repeater anymore (which is what the jammer wants)
@wisteela3 жыл бұрын
@@Dratchev241 Totally agree
@winstonchurchill65063 жыл бұрын
Bob marley was always jamming ...nice one ringway.
@proudsnowtiger3 жыл бұрын
If you have been affected by any of the issues raised in this video, then help may be available at www.laughingpoliceman.com/ - but I wouldn't count on it...
@skriznacrunthunner2178 Жыл бұрын
Wow one video and I've learned something... If I want to impersonate a British electrician I can't say alligator clip...
@TheNoCodeTech3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos mate. Keep it up.
@madcarew.32563 жыл бұрын
Some Miss directed brains must have been involved in this sneaky beaky!!
@neilfulcher92983 жыл бұрын
In about 2010 there was an illegal jammer operating near me in SE London. It prevented me from receiving BBC Radio 4 FM. They called themselves a radio station but they can't have been operating legally. On the upside It did force me to buy a DAB radio.
@NOWThatsRichy3 жыл бұрын
Easy enough to do with one of those little in car FM transmitters, connected to a rooftop FM dipole, I've tried that, surprising how far the signal travels!
Жыл бұрын
@@NOWThatsRichy add a cheap amplifier and it can go for miles. Connecting it to the TV cable network also can cause a mess, if you do this, you basically use the cable network as a large leaky feeder.
@jplacido99993 жыл бұрын
The lost of these storys would be a shame
@snuggleseal3 жыл бұрын
i dont know why but i love this stuff,
@carlashby61743 жыл бұрын
Intresting video Lewis please keep them coming 73 s Carl.
@m0ogy3 жыл бұрын
An other interesting video from a past era Lewis
@glasslinger3 жыл бұрын
The problem is determining who put the box there. If we can catch them, they will be "permanently stopped."
@MisterTalkingMachine3 жыл бұрын
I was not expecting to find you here
@NICKGAR73 жыл бұрын
Some more interesting clandestine stuff. Thanks Lewis. Stay safe
@jeffwazney76573 жыл бұрын
We had issues like this with C.B. radios... That's why i got out of it.
@MrJaylassiter3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to have a cell phone jammer for the movie theater.
@ThePixMaster3 жыл бұрын
No, just need courteousness back. I keep my phone on vibrate, and if I hadn't, I would have never received my daughters call when she got into a pretty bad accident. But I did quickly leave before I answered it.
@MichaelRabbitBass33 жыл бұрын
While I understand your sentiment just know FYI cell phone Jammers are illegal in the United States.
@Ka9radio_Mobile93 жыл бұрын
We call this a Fox Hunt in the US. Nice store for sure! :-)
@mistervacation23 Жыл бұрын
It looks like a Gonculator now is it German made or American made?
@tomcass2403 жыл бұрын
Really liking this channel thanks.
@clangerbasher3 жыл бұрын
A lot of effort for not much return. Sad. Really sad.
@hubzcaps3 жыл бұрын
Great way to wake up to this. Way cool
@j_o_h_n_d_u_n_n3 жыл бұрын
Much havoc to be had with a raspberry pi and an sdr transceiver, at a fraction of the cost .....just saying..
@christ22903 жыл бұрын
You realize this was back in the 80s, right?
@j_o_h_n_d_u_n_n3 жыл бұрын
@@christ2290 yes 🙄, I was implying that those with similar intent today, would have an easier time ..
@CampervanCookout3 жыл бұрын
Treasure hunt for a free pi and sdr? :)
@j_o_h_n_d_u_n_n3 жыл бұрын
@@CampervanCookout just thought of an even cheaper option : pi zero ; baofeng radio; relay switch to toggle the PTT ....again, just saying.
@phantom4E23 жыл бұрын
@@CampervanCookout how to locate a free sdr? i want one too
@tonyjones94423 жыл бұрын
Im not a ham, but what was the point? Did they have beef with other ham users?
@GrahamTruman3 жыл бұрын
So what was the point in doing it?
@RingwayManchester3 жыл бұрын
It was a vendetta against anyone and everyone at the time
@BoB4jjjjs3 жыл бұрын
A bit of fun more than likely, but it is the have and have nots, but they must have had the knowledge to jam the repeaters. So maybe students, who knows!
@new-knowledge80403 жыл бұрын
Ooh, yeah! All right! We're jammin' We're jammin' I wanna jam it wid you We're jammin' We're jammin' We're jammin' We're jammin' And I hope you like jammin', too
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman Жыл бұрын
@RingwayManchester >>> Okay, I admit I'm not the swiftest guy in the world, even about subjects I'm more familiar with {i.e., outside amateur radio.}. Having said that: WHAT was the reason -- or reasons -- for people assembling and deploying these jammers?
@davidjowett81957 ай бұрын
Rather than 'Jamming' this would better be described as a 'denial of service' attack.
@SimonWilton3 жыл бұрын
Nice one, another informative YT.
@robertbruce76863 жыл бұрын
Ah....remember when lived in Farnhan early 90s and used 2m and 70cm a lot. Used to ahem have interesting qso s with WL repeater (Weat Londin) jammer pirates!
@UnitSe7en Жыл бұрын
recreational jammers deserve to be relieved of a kneecap and their fingers.
@skysurferboy3 жыл бұрын
Dont really understand the jammers motive and what they got out of doing this?? 🤷♂️
@jamess17873 жыл бұрын
They got lols, all they needed.
@jamesbridges77503 жыл бұрын
No different than trolls and greyhats. Tech changes, people not so much.
@bugmanuk3 жыл бұрын
Another great video Ringway! What a waste of everybody's time it is to jam the citizen bands. Sad, however interesting.
@VA7BC3 жыл бұрын
Were you involved in setting these jamming devices up? Or are you just reporting on the history of them?
@RingwayManchester3 жыл бұрын
When this happened I was about 18 months old haha. I’m just reporting
@VA7BC3 жыл бұрын
@@RingwayManchester Understood! LOL. Thanks for the thorough report.
@chrissewell16083 жыл бұрын
What rascals! What scamps! Why would anyone think this kind of Shananagons was funny?
@philippinevlogger54093 жыл бұрын
Can you make a karaoke jammer device? We need it to silence the loud noisy speakers of our neighbors.
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR2 жыл бұрын
Had the Repeater used an encrypted trigger pulse the pranksters would have to look elsewhere.
@Dan-M0MST3 жыл бұрын
Looks like Lewis is getting some good information from Mr Hitchcock himself :)
@paulmorrey7333 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lewis Another very interesting video. Is it known who deployed the devices ?
@RingwayManchester3 жыл бұрын
It is mate but not my place to say 🤫
@paulmorrey7333 жыл бұрын
@@RingwayManchester Thanks for the reply
@jirkasvitil2762 Жыл бұрын
I do not understand the hate for repeaters I saw 2 of your video About groups trying to Jam them, but I have never heard any reason why they were doing it
@douro203 жыл бұрын
From what year is that handheld at 0:22?
@bodine463 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy a jammer my neighbor music is so loud at night and early in morning. Thanks
@johnmoloney5296 Жыл бұрын
What were they hoping to achieve?
@DeegsISG2 жыл бұрын
My only question here is WHY...Why do this?? I dont get it
@beeman18853 жыл бұрын
Some folks just have waaay too much time on their hands.
@shaungilmartin15053 жыл бұрын
I don't think the motivation has been explained adequately. Is it because repeaters are regarded as not pure radio in terms of not end to end LOS and a dilution not an extension to the hobby?
@RingwayManchester3 жыл бұрын
Shaun I was a toddler at the time mate I’m telling the story as best I can. I don’t know what they were thinking 😂
@busaade63413 жыл бұрын
@@RingwayManchester I lived to the south east of Birmingham. Radio was so popular you would struggle to find a clear frequency on 2m (FM and SSB) and we were moving to 70cm for the extra band space. Repeaters were also popular and I think they just wanted to cause havoc. It made the news, there was a video clip (obviously saved on tape and transferred) on YT of one of them being interviewed at his home post court appearance but it's now gone. Edit: found it here vimeo.com/86331516
@NE-Explorer3 жыл бұрын
What did you use for the animation pls?
@Phil-M0KPH3 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder what the ultimate goal/point actually was. They certainly went to a lot of time and expense. I can only think it was some form of vendetta against the repeater keeper.
@RingwayManchester3 жыл бұрын
It was a vendetta against anyone and everyone mate
@Dratchev2413 жыл бұрын
@@James_Bowie its always some asshole who wants to keep everyone from using the repeater. usually 1 of 2 cases> 1. just an asshole who wants to disrupt and keep anyone from using the repeater, in which when the repeater gets turned off the jammer wins cause nobody can use the machine anymore. 2. its a jam on a mission type, there the jammer don't like how people operate on said repeater, will piss and moan about the "bad hams on x repeater" to anyone who will listen and will complain to the gov about it (FCC in US or Ofcom UK) in hope the gov will come in and shut them bad hams down, only to be told, what they are doing ain't illegal so he goes on the mission to shut it down himself by jamming the hell out of it so nobody can use it. (I have experienced this kind of asshole when I had my repeater)
@truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb47933 жыл бұрын
Brits are especially hilarious when they swear 🤬🤣
@TheVicar3 жыл бұрын
bollocks
@hbryant19713 жыл бұрын
If I was the Control Operator, I would have cut them off.....
@rickwold38643 жыл бұрын
We use to do this back in the day to operators pack in the 90s we called them drop boxes and we used ammunition cans and a car bat
@electrocity20003 жыл бұрын
@Wyatt Watling Because they were sad losers with no life whilst other people were out having fun with their fit girlfriend
@philiprhodes55373 жыл бұрын
Some very sad people about these days i dont understand what pleasure they get from spoiling a hobby that is for some people a lifeline to the outside world especially those who may be house bound and are unable to have any social interaction with others and rely on their radio hobby just to have someone to speak to everyday... Seriously selfish individuals is all i can think and im not a radio ham im still 11mtrs ssb through and through but id never even think about spoiling someone elses enjoyment...
@BillyNoMates19743 жыл бұрын
Did they ever get caught ? you dont mention what happened after these devices were found. was the police notified ?
@RingwayManchester3 жыл бұрын
They were never found,
@busaade63413 жыл бұрын
It is a group and yes back in the 90's (93 i think) some did appear before the courts and be charged. A couple before the courts that i remember (and also documented on the internet by other sources) were David Giles-Probert and Robert George Hitchcock G1MTT. Hitchcock lived in Redditch. In addition to MH abuse to repeaters in Worcestershire can also be found documented on the net up until 2018. It has still been on-going though with abuse to repeaters in Warwickshire. Strangely on the occasions hunters have gone out the signal is coming from, guess where, Redditch! Same squeaky voice moronically rambling on as on the end of the video and on occasions accompanied by old time music along the lines of George Formby.
@bl88-88 Жыл бұрын
The fact that they couldn't figure out how to stop the common mode RF problem they had with direct wired input says a lot about who was doing the jamming. Jerks with just enough technical knowledge to be dangerous
@timor64 Жыл бұрын
why?
@Dr.Gunsmith3 жыл бұрын
Main question is WHY 🙄
@steveharvey20013 жыл бұрын
That picture isnt GB3MH. That it the UHF TV relay station above the town centre. GB3MH was up at Wyche cutting.
@shaunsiz.itsbetterbytube28583 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me for what reason do they do it for please
@RingwayManchester3 жыл бұрын
It was a vendetta against anyone and everyone at the time
@ianharling95693 жыл бұрын
Oh dear!😉😉
@alexthelion3353 жыл бұрын
Why do people jam repeaters?
@GeraldreiDaniel3 жыл бұрын
wow that's mean for amateur radio repeaters, i hope they can fix it
@Mottersmotters3 жыл бұрын
Hello Lewis great video as ever. I heard the laughing policeman only today on GB3CR probably between 2-3pm. I want to try fox hunting at some point. I find it interesting on how to find these type of things. Motters M7TRS 73's
@dereknorry4103 жыл бұрын
Why ?
@joemason9187 Жыл бұрын
Then there were the pricks in the am days they know who they are
@MegaRyan1234563 жыл бұрын
Sounds like people were having fun finding it lol
@dcriley653 жыл бұрын
Does your kit work in the states?
@RingwayManchester3 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn’t it?
@truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb47933 жыл бұрын
Hilarious story. I bet they left it in place out of respect, for the giggles
@juliogonzo27183 жыл бұрын
Likely rogue hams I'm thinking. Who else would have the knowhow?
@j_o_h_n_d_u_n_n3 жыл бұрын
Google is your friend ..
@juliogonzo27183 жыл бұрын
@@j_o_h_n_d_u_n_n there was no Google in the late 1980s. You had to go to the library.
@j_o_h_n_d_u_n_n3 жыл бұрын
@@juliogonzo2718 did you Google that fact ?
@arthurtwoshedsjackson62663 жыл бұрын
@@juliogonzo2718 or WH Smith’s
@paulatkinson7722 Жыл бұрын
Rsre
@ryantoomey6113 жыл бұрын
Why would someone spend so much time, effort, and money just to jam a repeater? What do they gain from doing something like this? Whomever was the culprits must have had no life.
@astrazenica77833 жыл бұрын
Why though
@GeraldreiDaniel3 жыл бұрын
what was the reason why they put Jammers?
@nandrews84123 жыл бұрын
Usually a result of 2 or more egos/attitudes colliding. Most of the time neither party is 100% innocent.
@GeraldreiDaniel3 жыл бұрын
@@nandrews8412 wow okay
@danwoodward233 жыл бұрын
I bet they went on to become computer hackers
@petenikolic52443 жыл бұрын
That did not sound like the G8VPR i knew
@RingwayManchester3 жыл бұрын
I think it was an imposter. I’m sure the real G8VPR is silent key now
@petenikolic52443 жыл бұрын
@@RingwayManchester Yes if i remember correctly he was ok i used to use MH BM VT mainly on the road with another ham i worked with
@jplacido99993 жыл бұрын
If you think these guys got away with it, you are completly wrong. Karma is a bitch and when someone goes a long way to harm other people, really bad things come back to them. I wouldn't envy these guys, they will get what they asked for.....big way. We just won't know it but THEY WILL !!!!!!
@RingwayManchester3 жыл бұрын
It was 30+ years ago, none of them were caught
@jplacido99993 жыл бұрын
@@RingwayManchester thank you so much for your answer 🙏. What I meant is this: The general public thinks that someone doing something and apparently not being caught means he got away with it, but in fact that is not the case. Once you do something wrong to someone that bad beahviour sticks to you and one way or the other you are going to pay , no matter if you believe it or not. It is a Universal undodgeable Law. The ignorance of this is what leads criminals and bad people to do all those horrible things you see on daily news. In fact, they don't even dream that they are harming themselves 10 times fold to what they did to fellow citizens. Is like getting a machine gun and start shooting themselves !!!! Only when they see the blood getting out of their body they realize it was a mistake. What I mean is: Although jamming radio relays is not a capital crime, it reveals that the envolved are willing to go a long way to harm other human beeings. And that tells a thing or two about those people. It is such a bad sign that someone as the focus on harming others !!! Justice never fails. The problem is that people thinks that Justice is related to courts but that is not true. Courts should not be used when one's talk about Justice. Justice is a automatic process that NO ONE can dogde. Courts are ligitimate, but only as a general Society self-defense and chaos avoidance system. Not as a "justice" provider. So, althought jamming is a lesser crime in Society, they WILL GET what they asked for !!! Only you probably won't know about it, but THEY WILL !!!! (sorry for sounding so dramatic, but I think I couldn't let fellow hams think those poor shadows of a human being would get away with this unpunished....)
@kissingbanditt3 жыл бұрын
lol thats something id so do....at least im honest..lol...