A Real Basic Way To Learn To Fly Your Blade MSR

[@max_dee]

Awesome vid thanks Gourvelos. It's my 3rd heli - just picked it up in Brizzy yesterday and it's by far the best designed micro heli I've flown. The durability and design leaves cheaper models (ie walkera) in the dust. I was hovering in 1-2 batteries - couldn't do that with my old 4#3b in MONTHS!! I'm currently trying to master the types of turns explained in your video. Your explanation of the physics is really helping. Nice work mate.

[@Rinocerente]

Thanks a ton, from the way that you are speaking...you sound VERY smart and know in great detail how helis work. Thanks again. Good job, I might get this heli cuz of you.

[@paulreeder5241]

I see that I am a day late and a dollar short. But I really think this video is far superior to most. You have explained what to do. Now it is time for people to "Learn" to do this. Just like the old saying of "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink". It is now time to practice, practice, practice, until you finally get it right. I thank you so kindly for this video. It sure has helped me a lot. I have had this for quite a while now, obviously, and I have always been a little uneasy thinking about trying to fly it. I didn't want to break anything. Parts can be quite expensive. Especially if all you do is crash. And, I might add, you will crash more than you might think This is just something you won't learn in a couple of days. Also, it depends on your motor skills and eye to hand coordination. Not everyone will be able to fly these. I have been flying the coaxial helis ever since the first Blade CX. I then bought the Blade MCX. The MCX has been a godsend to me. It is just so easy to fly. Just keep in mind that even though they say they have test flown each and every one of them at the factory, doesn't mean they adjusted them to fly correctly. My first Blade CX and MCX were, in no way, adjusted at the factory. I had to turn the servo connectors quite a bit to even get to a point that they would fly. I had to replace a lot of rotor blades and landing skids before I got them to at least fly where I could make a final adjustment. However, after making the final adjustments of all controls and trims, I have to admit that these are the BEST coaxial helis on the market. I have spent a lot of money trying various ones. and my final decision is the E-Flite Blade Coaxial Helis can't be beat. At least they can be adjusted to fly correctly. ALL of the others I have tried, I could never get adjusted to where they would fly without most major control movement to keep them steady. I just wish they would have stuck with the MCX and never come out with the MCX2. I have read that the reason for the MCX2 was they made the motors better. This may be right. But I own the Blade MCX2 also. In my opinion, the Blade MCX2 is far substandard compared to the Blade MCX. I realize that manufacturers have the need to occasionally update. But I think the addition of the full body and the useless flashing lights helped make the MCX2 worse than the MCX. If they only gave the motors an upgrade it would have made the MCX far superior to all micro helis. People just weren't giving the motors a "Break" in between flying. Just look at McDonalds, they haven;t change their recipe ever. If it isn't broke, don't fix it. The MCX wasn't really broke. People just weren't giving it a break. I still have all of the original Blade Coaxials. And they are still flying. I have only had to replace the obvious parts which are, props, fly bar and landing skids. I have had to replace the center axle only once because of a bad crash. I bent the shit out of it. I apologize for getting a bit off subject. I just really love E-Flite's products. And, this is an E-Flite product.

[@Hufingraz]

Thanks for the video! One of the best & easiest expanations I have ever found on flying the MSR.

[@JesseLambert78]

@thecatsgonewild In a stable hover the mast will always tilt to the right a little bit. The reason is that the tail rotor isn't just counteracting the torque of the main rotor, it's pushing the heli to the left as well. A bit of right cyclic is necessary to counter that thrust.

[@carr869]

G day mate. Thanks for the information. I've been flying 4 channel for a while now but your explanation was spot on. It has helped me. Thank you for your time and making the video for us.

[@yobrojoost9497]

I'm fairly new to helicopters, only have some experience with coaxial and have recently obtained a Blade MSR. Thanks for this very clear explanation, time to get practicing!

[@trevorpom]

@tvoice1 I learnt the hard way too. The aluminium blade grips are excellent and the heat shrink on the tail motor cap works very well. I went through 3 tail motors before a friend told me about the heat shrink. I heat shrunk the 4th tail motor about 8 months ago and am still going strong despite crashing it a fair number of times. You can crash it pretty hard , pick it up, have a quick check of it and most times fly without having to fix or adjust anything.=D

[@Gourvelos]

@bakonlicious Yes this heli in particular does have 2 settings by simply flicking one of your switches the heli becomes agile / docile couple this with the 2 positions for the swashplate linkages and you have a good range of response from very gentle to very swift.

[@bobcamphaus]

@darkdeltrith56 I had one of these, perhaps it was a lemon, but almost every time I crashed something broke. Sometimes the links just needed to be popped back on, other times the swash needed to be reseated. But other times, landing gear broke, tail motor broke, tail rotor bent, flybar broke, etc. I do believe it was the gyro because my sr120 was easier to fly indoors then the msr (no matter how it was trimmed) and that should not be...

[@knightday1973]

I just got a 120SR a few weeks ago and wanted to know more about the dynamics of what is involved in turning. This is a great video explaining this. Hope you do more. Could you explain what is really happening with the forces of the heli when going straight and then a sudden turn 180 back. As the tail goes around does there have to be elevators back and then suddenly switch forward as it is spun around? Thanks a lot.

[@trevorpom]

@thecatsgonewild It happens with all non coaxial helicopters, I bought an msr and had trouble with it tilting and thought it was the heli going wrong but got used to it after a while. I then bought a belt cp 2 and found the same thing happening in a much larger and more powerful heli. A friend told me what was happening and now I dont even think about it anymore. The msr is a great way to learn before going for a full 3d heli, it's saved me heaps in repairs because I knew what to expect.

[@trevorpom]

@tvoice1 It's a cool heli, but, the tail motor end caps come off pretty easily. To fix the problem get some heat shrink and cover the tail motor with it, making sure you cover the end cap. Also the blade grips are prone to break and it's worth your while to upgrade to the aluminium rotor head to stop this happening. If you do these two thing the heli is ALMOST bulletproof. I've bounced mine off concrete posts and have kept on flying without crashing or breaking anything. Unlike my belt cp.

[@Mega360Kid]

Put it this way guys, i've gone from a 3ch co-axial to sim to 500 heli and im doing great! No need for co-axial.

[@thecatsgonewild]

@frankovich213 thanks. i think its because the heli is so light and the motor is so strong that they had to do that to prevent it from spinning

[@jpandyaraja]

@Gourvelos thanks mate ..you just saved me an ardous trip to the retailer......i know you are not getting paid for your much needed advice, but none the less your input is invaluable for greens like myself....kind rgds j

[@ironeyes82]

Great video. Ive just jumped from a esky lama v4 and a few other co-ax. Just got a mSR and loving the challenge. Nippy little thing. Great advice

[@Gourvelos]

@englandforeverist if it is the only one you want to fly at this stage then the basic radio is perfedctly fine. however if you plan to go to a higher heli like a 450 or 500 then I suggest a minimum of a Spektrum Dx7 or a JR 9503, I have both those radios and both are quite good, however if you want a simpler radio then the Dx6i would suffice or the Dx8 for something a little better, I personally dont like the "fatter" radios like Dx6 body etc

[@Gourvelos]

@erik360247 Yes a very good heli for beginners also fun for experienced pilots too, it will stay level when you let go of the controls

[@dougpenhall]

Looks like it's been 2 years, so it probably doesn't matter any more, but I'd say it depends on your ability to rotate the controls in your mind when your helicopter isn't facing away from you any more. If you're having trouble with this still, you're going to crash every time the helicopter turns and it will be very frustrating. Pretty much all you'll learn from a coax is how to do this so it will be easier to transition to the mSR. A sim would help with this too.

[@YourFriendlyMe]

well to check the stability is to first make it to hover with only the throttle if it doesnt you have to trim it from your transmitter

[@Gourvelos]

@jpandyaraja Due to the heli tail blades being lower than the main rotor blades yes that is true for all heli's, it is more evident on smaller heli's therefore to compensate so it lands straight on both skids the manufacturers tilted the main rotor at an angle, just picture this, imagine a tail blade 10 meters lower than the main rotor, it would tilt the heli quite a bit because it creating thrust at a lower angle, now imagine it dead smack in line with the main rotor, it cant make the heli tilt

[@jpandyaraja]

is it true that seen from behind the mast leans slightly to the right even when the heli stands flat.....?

[@bakonlicious]

I have a dx6i and I know that for planes it has dual rate and expo on it making the plane less responsive and easier to handle. Is there something like this for helis? Thanks

[@madeupname37]

Really useful, thanks for posting.

[@bittersweetdefeat]

great info, BUT a few new people will keep looking at the rotor because they are in a hurry, WAY too many people think that flyin helis is that easy, from my experience (very limited of course) is that you should ALWAYS look at the canopy!!! Just my experience in my limited knoledge...

[@PoopLoungeProduction]

great flying man!!

[@M5FAB]

@bakonlicious if you are using the DX6i then first make a new Airplane ACRO Model type on a vacant slot on your radio. Then bind the mSR to it using the new ACRO settings. This makes the mSR easier to learn. 73 M5FAB

[@Gourvelos]

@mattyd007 this heli is so much fun, heck I think I enjoy this as much as I do my 500 size heli's. The 4#3B is not an easy heli to fly, I think that a 450 or 500 heli is much easier than a 4#3b but the hardest heli to fly is the 4G3, its like what I would describe as a squirrel thats just eaten a box of coffee beans. But thats Walkera heli's for you and one crash on the walkera's = no more flying till you fix what breaks in the crash, at least this heli you can smash at high speeds 0 damage

[@VDS_yt]

Thanks a lot, looking forward to learn more!

[@Gourvelos]

When looking from behind and the tail is towards you nose away from you then how do you see the canopy? You can still see the main shaft, well I can see it better than the canopy. But whatever works....

[@thecatsgonewild]

can someone please tell me why the mast is tilted to the right and if it affects flying in any way? i got an msr 3 days ago and have only flown it twice until i noticed the mast and i thought it was broken i was going to return it but i just wanted to know if it was normal

[@Gourvelos]

@knightday1973 Hi, where do I start.... there are so many forces in play its difficult to explain them all but what I can do is give you a comparison, lets assume we could keep the height level ie: cant go up and cant go down in height, now think of and ice rink and how you need to turn lets say someone pushes you and all you do is lean into corners now take your scenario and sudden turn back 180 deg while your friend is pushing you, can you imagine how the forces are? you need to lean hard

[@lay3Rv2]

Thanks for the tips.

[@tonyfendall]

You can't see the mast angle in pitch when its facing away from the pilot. Likewise, you can't see the mast angle in roll when facing hele side on. Better to paint rotor tips, one stripe on top, two stripes underneath and watch the rotor disk move. You will then see the disk move long before the mast due to their respective lengths.

[@sarpifly]

Thank you!!Very grateful!

[@YourFriendlyMe]

what does it do?and did you crash it very hard lately? maybe its your gyro

[@RCPhilN]

0:58 I call that "wipping" That happend to me. First flight with a E-Sky CP V2 I swinged it upper and upper, cause I can't conroll it. at the end I touched a wall with the landing gear xD since that I can hover a Heli... LOL

[@Gourvelos]

Mast can be seen at all angles, canopy can not (especially from behind) Seeing 5 deg in the mast is easy seeing 5 deg in the canopy is not When you get to larger heli's and looking at the mast during inverted hover is the best way, but I guess if you dont look at the rotor then that in itself is a great habbit, but the lower you get in the heli the longer the delay, ie: looking at skids is the worst as they move last when you fly larger helis you will see what I mean

[@bakonlicious]

@Gourvelos Thnaks

[@Gourvelos]

@darkdeltrith56 its the toughest micro helicopter I know, the answer is no, it does not break easy, I think I have some video's of high speed crashes here on youtube....

[@RotorHead2652]

my teacher told me think of your cyclic stick is sticking out of the top of the head watever way you tilt the stick the helicopter will move .... providing its tail in.

[@morningglory313]

@JESSERL thats handy i thought mine was dodgy a*

[@mrmontgomery526]

Hello sir so the msrx follows the same suit?

[@fUjiMaNia]

the Msrx is considered hell compared to this. The Msrx is flybarless so things get much tougher.

[@bakonlicious]

@M5FAB Thanks

[@nazilaba]

thank you very helpful

[@cyberneticinterfacemodular3996]

Upgrade flybar better than stock version.

[@engineerahmed7248]

This is exactly how I taught girls to fly RC plane. Don't expect plane to go r8 away with controller stick input. U give stick input to tilt the wings. Plane will go in the direction wings tilted

[@Jv977]

@darkdeltrith56 NOT AT ALL!!!! its amazing...

[@bittersweetdefeat]

Mast gives you NO orientation on front back etc... FOLLOW THE NOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@markmckenna7913]

No. The msrx flies completely different. A lot harder to fly, not for a beginner.