A Response to the Courts of Heaven Prayer With Ken Fish

[@donnaanderson5529]

Soooo grateful for you all and your sorely needed example of how to test and rightly divide the Word of God in a true Beroean spirit speaking truth in love and humility, tempered with boldness

[@heisthealphaandomegatheinf523]

*Any teaching that give more power to the Devil than he has is Satanic!* *The only being that really really really wants you to believe that he has been given back legal rights in heaven after Almighty God threw him out thousands of years ago in Satan/the Devil!* *Jesus paid it all. Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life.* *Praying in Jesus name to the Father is no longer good enough?* *That is an obscene heresy!* *Even Blasphemy!* *Those courts of heaven only exist in the imagination of Robert Henderson who by the way is not an apostle!*

[@jamiebuxton1533]

Thank you for this video. Recently in a home group we were given this book. I read the first chapter and I KNEW this wasn’t right! I was told the reason why I struggle in an area is because I need to go to the courts of heaven and shut doors and then would I be free in that area. I AM THANKFUL FOR THIS VIDEO RHAT RIGHTLY DIVIDES THE WORD OF TRUTH!

[@sarahborders2348]

I have been involved in several "Courts of Heaven" meetings with a small house church I was going to during COVID. The people are true lovers of Jesus and the Word, but I think it is so easy for us to want to find a formula to fix a problem that isn't going away. This podcast was really helpful to me because it never seemed right in my spirit either.

[@aubrie_morgan]

💯

[@ChaplainDaveSparks]

I think that's the problem. I believe that sometimes God will lead us to pray in a _"creative"_ way, but the problem is when it _"works"_ and you start teaching that others need to also do it that way. Ditto for the leading of the Holy Spirit in certain areas of our lives, then trying to teach that everyone else needs to do the same.

[@Sesquapedalian100]

I’m grateful for this content, it’s important to instruct the body of Christ in critical thinking. I have found this episode particularly helpful (as a newer Christian).

[@martinfroelich7193]

I am so grateful that there are Pentecostal charismatic people out there calling out and warning about dangerous and heretical doctrine of charismatics.

[@aubrie_morgan]

AMEN

[@davidl.williams7366]

Ah, so good to hear Ken Fish again. He wouldn't know it, but many years ago at the Anaheim Vineyard, something he said almost as an aside in his description of an event changed the whole course of my life. It established my calling.

[@markstevens6214]

Oh, he remembers, and they're is a restraining order 😏

[@Smileyb8711]

I had a ministry pray over me using the Courts of Heaven process and the next day I got the Flu for about 10 days, and my business meeting was cancelled without notice. Even though the ministry was generous, this is no joke. This is a spiritual transaction I won’t be taking part in again. The Bible clearly tells us not to add or remove teachings to the word.

[@davidvalenta9394]

Thanks for appropriately addressing this in a good, and a right spirit..

[@loridzojko205]

Amen! Such bondage being created in the courts of heaven teaching. I personally felt the weight of this when I was a baby Christian in circles that taught this. Something was very "off putting" to me then. So very grateful to this ministry as I've been listening to much content lately that has been so liberating in the face of that group I attended!

[@justmorenoise]

Respect to Ken Fish for speaking truth again. It’s a wonderful gift to the church to have this stuff presented for us to further understand and process what’s going on. I’m a spirit filled believer and find this channel continues to tackle real everyday church issues we are seeing. I appreciate that It is clear. Thankyou for the respectful way you discuss issues and brothers in Christ. It’s going to be okay.. I tell myself anyway. I have renewed faith that the Holy Spirit can teach us and help guide us through all the stuff. From my view it seems overwhelming where to start but you guys seems to effortlessly tackle error with such grace and humility. Thankyou for your service

[@TheRemnantRadio]

Thank you Connie. That beings my heart much joy.

[@tkw4908]

I think that these are some of the best episodes. I am but a child in Christianity and these false doctrines tend to capture new Christians attention. God has really protected me from a lot of dangerous doctrine. I had heard this doctrine and then quickly forgot about it. The Holy Spirit really helps you hold on to the important things and dismiss the false. Let us all stay grounded in Christ and Christ alone. Its not about us, but the One who died to save us from the darkness. We have made the Gospel about us and not the One who saves us. When we truly die to self, we recognize who is the star of this show and it is by no means us. Thank you for calling the crazy stuff! It is beneficial for newly saved people. Dont ever stop calling out the incorrect doctrines. Also, remember where our eyes were focused when we got saved. The Holy Spirit convicted me and showed me who Jesus truly was.

[@margreethakkerman4026]

Gemütlich, he says it right. Great episode, very clarifying, it's very confusing, this courts of heaven idea. I never felt peace about it. Thanks for the confirmation.

[@leaterry1504]

I was seriously concerned about Robert Henderson's book. It did not sit right with my spirit. I reached out to some very knowledgeable people who agreed. I threw the book away. I am at peace with it. Ken Fish has it right!

[@stephenkapprere6421]

I had a similar experience as well.

[@moasaad]

Well done! Excellent coverage of this issue! I listened to a portion of one of robert’s courts of heaven and basically couldn’t listen to the rest! …. Y’all just confirmed my Convictions!

[@canechambis4368]

Thank you Remnant Radio and a special thank you to Michael and Ken for this teaching today. Thank you for the reminder of the story of the woman and the unjust judge and a reminder of perseverance in prayer.

[@JD-vw6vy]

The entire concept as taught in Courts of Heaven is inspired by an angel of light, where most if not all error comes from. It leads away from the simplicity of Christ.

[@aubrie_morgan]

💯

[@katherinearons6943]

So incredibly helpful. I’m didn’t feel quite right about this teaching and noticed it didn’t quite measure up with scripture, but was definitely still confused and not sure what to think of it.

[@cjdipilato4910]

Very thankful for this podcast as I have had huge questions, and have not been bearing witness to this courts of heaven doctrine.

[@calebriley7466]

I have DEFINITELY been challenged by you guys and I GREATLY appreciate it! Really learning so much and having fun with your talks!

[@jmtz9957]

Praying in the natural will always fall short. This is why we must pray in the spirit. The SPIRIT of GOD praying through us. The SPIRIT will pray the WILL of GOD perfectly, legally and righteously. And on top of that, we have CHRIST JESUS as our HIGH PRIEST who interceeds on our behave. Robert Henderson's teaching brings the law of bondage. There is no perfection on our own without CHRIST and the SPIRIT OF GOD.

[@vitaluz605]

this is a mindblowing and fascinating video about the sovereignty of God, and the different views of doctrines , and teachings that we should not always agree with. . Thanks Ptr Ken Fisk who expounded on this interesting topic, Josh is brilliant iand compelling too

[@heisthealphaandomegatheinf523]

*Jesus paid it all. Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life.* *Praying in Jesus name to the Father is no longer good enough?* *That is an obscene heresy!* *What a load of nonsense!* *Statement of fact!* *There are no courts of heaven teaching and it is a heresy near blasphemy!* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.* *Jesus our Advocate in heaven paid it all* *If Satan has not been cast down then the salvation, power and kingdom of God have not come.* *The Father now has through the blood of Jesus to use the forgiveness of for His glory and our benefit!* *For those of you who have forgotten is the unmerited Grace of God through Jesus Christ the Lord?* *1 John 2 1* *My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father!* *Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.* *Jesus our Advocate in heaven paid it all* *Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life!* *There are no courts up in heaven and absolutely no need of them!.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *The only being that would want you to believe that the Devil has legal rights is the Devil!* *And now Robert Henderson?* *“Where are your accusers”* * - *Jesus * *John 8* *Has the salvation and the power and the kingdom of God come?* *Why is there half an hour of silence in heaven before Satan gets kicked out?* *The bible is very clear that He has been kicked out because of the Jesus and the cross and has no access to Heaven anymore.* *Courts of Heaven is a religious heresy rooted in the unbelief that Jesus has not accomplished salvation by his shed blood and unmerited grace* *If Satan is yapping like an annoying dog in heaven and accusing us without stopping (day and night)?* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.* *Pray to God in the Holy Name of the Lord Jesus Christ not this stupid heresy by going to some non existent courts of heaven.** And for gods sake read your bibles!!* *In Christianity Blasphemy is False Teachings: Courts of heaven is a false teaching and blasphemous!* *Even if the false teaching of supposed courts in heaven is indulged? *And the argument further and say that sin does open a ‘door? *The devil still has no legal rights to access.* *It would be like us leaving the front door of our house open?* And a thief get into our homes? *Does the thief have any legal right to be inside of the home of course not!* *Just because I have accidentally left it open, it doesn’t mean a thief has a ‘legal’ right to go in?* *The thief is there illegally and has to get out!* *Because of the cross, sin is not the devil’s stronghold.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *Note it doesn’t use the word “Judge” *In John 1:2** It says an a *"Advocate* *With the* *“Father.”* *It’ is a family thing, not a judicial thing.?* *This is heresy it gives legal Satan power he never had and if it were true you can throw away your Bible especially the New Testament because you can jump up into some court of heaven and get both your own sins forgiven and the curses of your ancestors going back untold thousands of years!* *What a load of nonsense!* *Statement of fact! *There are no courts of heaven teaching and it is a heresy near blasphemy!* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.*

[@ABC-zt6zd]

The reason God answered Daniel's prayer is because he was greatly beloved by God. Now was he greatly beloved because of his prayer and fasting or was he greatly beloved because he had a heart for God? Likely the praying and fasting originated from a heart solely devoted to and in love with God. Can praying and fasting originate from a religious performance based heart also? I think so.

[@heisthealphaandomegatheinf523]

*Jesus paid it all. Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life.* *If Satan has not been cast down then the salvation, power and kingdom of God have not come.* *The Father now has through the blood of Jesus to use the forgiveness of for His glory and our benefit!* *For those of you who have forgotten is the unmerited Grace of God through Jesus Christ the Lord?* *1 John 2 1* *My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father!* *Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.* *Jesus our Advocate in heaven paid it all* *Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life!* *There are no courts up in heaven and absolutely no need of them!.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *The only being that would want you to believe that the Devil has legal rights is the Devil!* *And now Robert Henderson?* *“Where are your accusers”* * - *Jesus * *John 8* *Has the salvation and the power and the kingdom of God come?* *Why is there half an hour of silence in heaven before Satan gets kicked out?* *The bible is very clear that He has been kicked out because of the Jesus and the cross and has no access to Heaven anymore.* *Courts of Heaven is a religious heresy rooted in the unbelief that Jesus has not accomplished salvation by his shed blood and unmerited grace* *If Satan is yapping like an annoying dog in heaven and accusing us without stopping (day and night)?* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.* *Pray to God in the Holy Name of the Lord Jesus Christ not this stupid heresy by going to some non existent courts of heaven.** And for gods sake read your bibles!!* *In Christianity Blasphemy is False Teachings: Courts of heaven is a false teaching and blasphemous!* *Even if the false teaching of supposed courts in heaven is indulged? *And the argument further and say that sin does open a ‘door? *The devil still has no legal rights to access.* *It would be like us leaving the front door of our house open?* And a thief get into our homes? *Does the thief have any legal right to be inside of the home of course not!* *Just because I have accidentally left it open, it doesn’t mean a thief has a ‘legal’ right to go in?* *The thief is there illegally and has to get out!* *Because of the cross, sin is not the devil’s stronghold.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *Note it doesn’t use the word “Judge” *In John 1:2** It says an a *"Advocate* *With the* *“Father.”* *It’ is a family thing, not a judicial thing.?* *This is heresy it gives legal Satan power he never had and if it were true you can throw away your Bible especially the New Testament because you can jump up into some court of heaven and get both your own sins forgiven and the curses of your ancestors going back untold thousands of years!* *What a load of nonsense!* *Statement of fact! *There are no courts of heaven teaching and it is a heresy near blasphemy!* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.*

[@ABC-zt6zd]

@@heisthealphaandomegatheinf523 I liked your post. I do think there is a final judgment or maybe sentencing is a better word but the verdict has already been decided at Christ's death and resurrection. Still Satan will do his thing on earth in the time until the sentence is carried out.

[@heisthealphaandomegatheinf523]

@@ABC-zt6zd *Any teaching that give more power to the Devil than he has is Satanic!* *The only being that really really really wants you to believe that he has been given back legal rights in heaven after Almighty God threw him out thousands of years ago in Satan/the Devil!* *Jesus paid it all. Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life.* *Praying in Jesus name to the Father is no longer good enough?* *That is an obscene heresy!* *Even Blasphemy!* *Those courts of heaven only exist in the imagination of Robert Henderson who by the way is not an apostle!*

[@whynot496]

@@heisthealphaandomegatheinf523 - The only problem with your comments are that this teaching is in no way giving more power to the Devil.

[@faith.hope.love...]

Thank you for this sharing with Ken! Please also research into Ian Clayton, Nancy Cohen, Mike Parsons, Dr. O, Justin P. Abraham… those who speak about no coming anti-christ, no tribulation, but now we are coming to the end of Church Age and the beginning of Kingdom Age, Ascension and Sonships… etc. Their teachings of eschatology really confuse me, I really like to know what other fellow Christians are thinking.

[@singingstars5006]

The idea of a tribulation and literal antichrist has only been taught for something over a hundred years or so. Before that, Christians didn't believe in such things. A second coming, yes. A literal seven year Tribulation? No. So when approaching this topic, one must understand that eschatology (end times theology) has been varied and not nailed down (not codified into declarations of absolute truth) simply because prophesy is often symbolic and the future is obscure. The only not obscure part is the second coming. Having said that, I only recognize one name on your list. Are these professing Christians? Ken himself labels Ian Clayton a false teacher and Gnostic. I have reasons why I agree.

[@aprilm3453]

Thank you for making this video. I told my mom about it. I was surprised to find out that a church we were attending had a workshop on it. I’m not sure the pastor’s were aware of the content because it was a group not really affiliated with our church.

[@DavidPorter-qz5qz]

Well done! I like that it was done with the right attitude. This teaching seems to me to be structured in a way that reminds me of Scientology.

[@sonjaclive9585]

Luke 8:17 New International Version (NIV) For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

[@sibylleherbe8260]

Thank you. I’ve read one of his books and it didn’t work. I had no idea about any of this and I really appreciate your tackling this issue and how you handled it.

[@heisthealphaandomegatheinf523]

*Any teaching that give more power to the Devil than he has is Satanic!* *Jesus paid it all. Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life.* *Praying in Jesus name to the Father is no longer good enough?* *That is an obscene heresy!* *Even Blasphemy!* *God help heretic Mr Henderson on judgement day he has been told thousands of times that he is teaching a doctrine of devils?* *What a load of nonsense!* *Statement of fact!* *There are no courts of heaven teaching and it is a heresy near blasphemy!* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.* *Jesus our Advocate in heaven paid it all* *If Satan has not been cast down then the salvation, power and kingdom of God have not come.* *The Father now has through the blood of Jesus to use the forgiveness of for His glory and our benefit!* *For those of you who have forgotten is the unmerited Grace of God through Jesus Christ the Lord?* *1 John 2 1* *My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father!* *Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.* *Jesus our Advocate in heaven paid it all* *Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life!* *There are no courts up in heaven and absolutely no need of them!.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *The only being that would want you to believe that the Devil has legal rights is the Devil!* *And now Robert Henderson?* *“Where are your accusers”* * - *Jesus * *John 8* *Has the salvation and the power and the kingdom of God come?* *Why is there half an hour of silence in heaven before Satan gets kicked out?* *The bible is very clear that He has been kicked out because of the Jesus and the cross and has no access to Heaven anymore.* *Courts of Heaven is a religious heresy rooted in the unbelief that Jesus has not accomplished salvation by his shed blood and unmerited grace* *If Satan is yapping like an annoying dog in heaven and accusing us without stopping (day and night)?* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.* *Pray to God in the Holy Name of the Lord Jesus Christ not this stupid heresy by going to some non existent courts of heaven.** And for gods sake read your bibles!!* *In Christianity Blasphemy is False Teachings: Courts of heaven is a false teaching and blasphemous!* *Even if the false teaching of supposed courts in heaven is indulged? *And the argument further and say that sin does open a ‘door? *The devil still has no legal rights to access.* *It would be like us leaving the front door of our house open?* And a thief get into our homes? *Does the thief have any legal right to be inside of the home of course not!* *Just because I have accidentally left it open, it doesn’t mean a thief has a ‘legal’ right to go in?* *The thief is there illegally and has to get out!* *Because of the cross, sin is not the devil’s stronghold.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *Note it doesn’t use the word “Judge” *In John 1:2** It says an a *"Advocate* *With the* *“Father.”* *It’ is a family thing, not a judicial thing.?* *This is heresy it gives legal Satan power he never had and if it were true you can throw away your Bible especially the New Testament because you can jump up into some court of heaven and get both your own sins forgiven and the curses of your ancestors going back untold thousands of years!* *What a load of nonsense!* *Statement of fact! *There are no courts of heaven teaching and it is a heresy near blasphemy!* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.*

[@Henriette-van-der-Ende]

Gnostisism is always a seduction for the prophetic person. You're really having the expiences, but you don't test it with the word of God. Because of a pridefull heart you believe that it has to be the Holy Spirit. He is giving this secret knowlegde to me because I'm special. Or because I'm a prophet, and other people don't get it because they are not. Please people, guard your heart

[@aubrie_morgan]

AMEN. This was so good.

[@josecamacho6372]

All I can say is “Amen” 🙏🙏🙏

[@greggpj]

Great episode. Always great to have Ken Fish on board. I did not know anything about this movement until this episode, but I think, now that I have viewed it, there are several people I know who are involved in one of the churches I minister in. Thank you for this information.

[@heisthealphaandomegatheinf523]

*Jesus paid it all. Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life.* *If Satan has not been cast down then the salvation, power and kingdom of God have not come.* *The Father now has through the blood of Jesus to use the forgiveness of for His glory and our benefit!* *For those of you who have forgotten is the unmerited Grace of God through Jesus Christ the Lord?* *1 John 2 1* *My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father!* *Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.* *Jesus our Advocate in heaven paid it all* *Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life!* *There are no courts up in heaven and absolutely no need of them!.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *The only being that would want you to believe that the Devil has legal rights is the Devil!* *And now Robert Henderson?* *“Where are your accusers”* * - *Jesus * *John 8* *Has the salvation and the power and the kingdom of God come?* *Why is there half an hour of silence in heaven before Satan gets kicked out?* *The bible is very clear that He has been kicked out because of the Jesus and the cross and has no access to Heaven anymore.* *Courts of Heaven is a religious heresy rooted in the unbelief that Jesus has not accomplished salvation by his shed blood and unmerited grace* *If Satan is yapping like an annoying dog in heaven and accusing us without stopping (day and night)?* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.* *Pray to God in the Holy Name of the Lord Jesus Christ not this stupid heresy by going to some non existent courts of heaven.** And for gods sake read your bibles!!* *In Christianity Blasphemy is False Teachings: Courts of heaven is a false teaching and blasphemous!* *Even if the false teaching of supposed courts in heaven is indulged? *And the argument further and say that sin does open a ‘door? *The devil still has no legal rights to access.* *It would be like us leaving the front door of our house open?* And a thief get into our homes? *Does the thief have any legal right to be inside of the home of course not!* *Just because I have accidentally left it open, it doesn’t mean a thief has a ‘legal’ right to go in?* *The thief is there illegally and has to get out!* *Because of the cross, sin is not the devil’s stronghold.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *Note it doesn’t use the word “Judge” *In John 1:2** It says an a *"Advocate* *With the* *“Father.”* *It’ is a family thing, not a judicial thing.?* *This is heresy it gives legal Satan power he never had and if it were true you can throw away your Bible especially the New Testament because you can jump up into some court of heaven and get both your own sins forgiven and the curses of your ancestors going back untold thousands of years!* *What a load of nonsense!* *Statement of fact! *There are no courts of heaven teaching and it is a heresy near blasphemy!* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.*

[@gregoryknight9704]

This is a great discussion.

[@camerongalloway518]

The only other person I've heard address these issues is John Crowder. I'm glad Ken is talking about it too. We need a bigger conversation about these issues because there's a lot of confusing waters to navigate through. Especially if you're a young person.

[@carlvanderpal5321]

First time I heard it I got concerned, then I then looked at the fruit, several people I met that claimed to have read the book or attended some of his meetings. 1) First person said "I've taken 400 warlocks to the courts of heaven", but when pressed on the matter of what happened next was very unclear and convoluted, and the 2nd one, claimed that he had "special knowledge" that the church was not ready for, and based on that removed himself from church and from fellowship. And on that same trip he claimed that some lady spoke at the conference and was surfing around in an aeroplane 35,000 ft up in the air. A lot of of also seems as though it's gnostic teaching (I have special knowledge, which is outside the bible, so therefore I must be more enlightened than you all).

[@andytyrrell2569]

My wife is so into this Courts of Heaven stuff hat she basically is trapped in a cult like theology and refuses the listen to sound doctrine. I fear for her salvation. She says she has been told that someone needs to act as a spirit guide for her and take her mystically to heaven so she can plead her case. After years of following the generational curses cutting off rituals and self deliverance stuff and following people like Kat Kerr and God TV that she is now completely looney tunes and more like a charismatic jihadi. Pray for Sophie please

[@viridianacortes9642]

Lead her to other sources. Don’t tell her you’re trying to lead her away from that though. Just say, “hey I found someone else you might like” and recommend her to people with more sound doctrine. I recommend you send her lectures and books by Tim Mackey and John Walton. They just have a way of making you hunger for more sound doctrine. The Bible project is also good because it is very simple but well explained videos with visually stunning animation. Trust me. Just gently lead her. I hate saying this, but maybe lead her by the hand, rather than smacking her with a stick.

[@marinemom77]

Do not fear for her salvation. She is a child of God. But ravenous wolves in sheep’s clothing are leading her astray by false teaching. Pray for the Lord to open her eyes and to seek Him through His Word with the Holy Spirit’s guidance.

[@whynot496]

I generally like The Remnant Radio, but this time they seemed to completely misunderstand Robert Hendersons book. Their arguments seemed to all focus on their own misinterpretations. So I hope your dislike of the Courts of Heaven isn't based on very poorly studied videos like this.

[@sdouglas5889]

Father God, I lift up Sophie to you and ask you to give her divine encounters of Your presence. Just as You had and extended mercy to me when I didn't realize I needed it, confront her with Your Spirit and Truth to set her free from herself. Father, I see Sophie like the woman in "Hind's Feet On High Places" that needs intimate fellowship with You before sending her to minister to those she's connected to. Father, woo Sophie into the secret place individually and corporately to experience the real You. Let her taste Your goodness--all in Your Name our Lord Yeshua Messiah.

[@edhalse5913]

I have no problems with Kat Kerr. ThankYou Lord for what you are revealing about Heaven through her, and bless her.

[@JonathanBrenneman]

There is a big difference between a "legal right" and a "hole in the armor" or vulnerability. Rapists don't have legal rights to rape women, and burglars don't have legal rights to enter houses. But they exploit vulnerabilities. We have every legal right to stop a rapist or a burglar. But it's also a good idea to do something about the areas of vulnerability! Like, lock the door of your house when you leave, and don't go to a bar late at night wearing a mini-skirt to flirt with guys and get them to buy you drinks!

[@livefromtexas9371]

Doesn’t the Bible say the Holy Spirit makes intercession for us because we don’t always know how we should pray? This teaching sounds legalistic to me.

[@joyous2theworld]

Thank you for this teaching.

[@megaloschemos9113]

The court of St. James is at St. James's Palace, not at Buckingham Palace. The queen doesn't live there, she resides at either Windsor Castle or Balmoral in Scotland. This is a great discussion, Ken Fish is so straightforward and easy to understand. Thanks Remnant Radio; such a blessing during this lockdown 💯

[@TheRemnantRadio]

Megaloschemos A: probably an accident

[@megaloschemos9113]

@@TheRemnantRadio Sorry, just being a picky Brit 😄 No worries

[@canechambis4368]

If you could get past the need to be technically correct, you might have gotten a good laugh with what Michael said when he referred to Buckingham Palace; that's unfortunate that you did not get the same chance to laugh as I did. Lighten up! lol

[@justmorenoise]

CANE Chambis I can relate to the question actually as my autism makes me very literal. I think though this person is actually British so it makes sense. For me I have to watch things several times to understand jokes. It is funny though once understood. As a literal person I watch talks 2 or 3 times that’s how multiple ways of understanding can work. I believe the normal human brain can understand all of it together in one sitting. This amazes me. You are very blessed 🙂 But literal can have pros too so it’s not all bad

[@justmorenoise]

Megaloschemos A .. yep, I agree this channel is a wonderful thing especially in lockdown. Stay safe 🙋🏼‍♀️

[@jmtz9957]

Spiritual things are easy to comprehend when perceived by the spirit. People who tend to want to be too spiritual, leads to a perversion of the spiritual matters. Which makes them strange in the natural.

[@TheIcanntspel]

The Charismatic movement needs a hard reset in my opinion. I've been around it my whole life and they've always been gullible and unvigilliant in the what they're willing to believe.

[@suzanneluis2978]

I never realized all of the things that are in his book but I have friends that subscribe to it, scary!

[@tracyoneil9350]

The quest for knowledge is an assignment of the enemy as old as time..right out of the garden. GENESIS 3:1-6

[@strikerswag4651]

Galatians 1:8-9 (New King James Version) 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be [a]accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

[@dandrsampsonfamily]

What's a good resource to read regarding gnosticism and typical gnostic belief?

[@TheRemnantRadio]

You may find some insights in this playlist on gnosticism: kzbin.info/aero/PLMsjeViSScFHX1QuIxJOwvX9puQjLoyBb

[@PAULLEONORAH]

Thank you. Someone recommended "Courts of Heaven" teaching or method of praying to me. I wanted to know what critics thought of it. I have learnt enough from this presentation to know that "Courts of Heaven" is unbiblical and unsafe. In fact the closing chapter of the bible curses those who add to the bible's teachings or take away from them. I guess because tampering with biblical doctrine is dangerous and can cause a lot of harm.

[@asies2023]

A friend read a book on courts of heavens and after a prayer she ended up having a horrible demonic nightmare

[@Maranatha7557]

That’s what I worry about with these kinds of teachings. We don’t want to end up in more bondage than when we began.

[@whynot496]

rait mcee - If your friend had a "demonic nightmare" after reading the Bible, I hope you would wouldn't blame it on the Bible. Based on your logic it kind of seems like you would.

[@ronietwwjd91]

@@whynot496 Satan is the great deceiver from day one...what better way to decive the believers is to divide them with false teachings and made it sound believable...this sounds like an old movie called Defending your Life most Christians know in their spirits that this is wrong because the Holy Spirit will convict you of these teachings.... yes I believe her about the demonic dream it's not about reading the Bible this teaching is allowing a port hole to the evil side....

[@whynot496]

@@ronietwwjd91 I understand what you are saying, but don't seem to be speaking out of any type of understanding or personal experience. My family and I have had a lot of experience related to spiritual warfare. We are keenly aware of the counterfeit, and had seen many people saved from it. We have had many experiences related to the courts of heaven. The fruits of theses experiences can be easily seen drawing people to Jesus. Plain and simple, if something is not of God, there won't be spiritual fruit. Matthew, 12:25

[@Shardalon]

Hey, I'm reading this study guide, and it's really good stuff, but I would like to volunteer my services as a proofreader for any future small projects such as this. I say this with love and a sincere willingness to do this on a volunteer basis.

[@Shardalon]

@@TheRemnantRadio Just emailed you.

[@heisthealphaandomegatheinf523]

*Jesus paid it all. Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life.* *Praying in Jesus name to the Father is no longer good enough?* *That is an obscene heresy!* *What a load of nonsense!* *Statement of fact!* *There are no courts of heaven teaching and it is a heresy near blasphemy!* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.* *Jesus our Advocate in heaven paid it all* *If Satan has not been cast down then the salvation, power and kingdom of God have not come.* *The Father now has through the blood of Jesus to use the forgiveness of for His glory and our benefit!* *For those of you who have forgotten is the unmerited Grace of God through Jesus Christ the Lord?* *1 John 2 1* *My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father!* *Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.* *Jesus our Advocate in heaven paid it all* *Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life!* *There are no courts up in heaven and absolutely no need of them!.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *The only being that would want you to believe that the Devil has legal rights is the Devil!* *And now Robert Henderson?* *“Where are your accusers”* * - *Jesus * *John 8* *Has the salvation and the power and the kingdom of God come?* *Why is there half an hour of silence in heaven before Satan gets kicked out?* *The bible is very clear that He has been kicked out because of the Jesus and the cross and has no access to Heaven anymore.* *Courts of Heaven is a religious heresy rooted in the unbelief that Jesus has not accomplished salvation by his shed blood and unmerited grace* *If Satan is yapping like an annoying dog in heaven and accusing us without stopping (day and night)?* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.* *Pray to God in the Holy Name of the Lord Jesus Christ not this stupid heresy by going to some non existent courts of heaven.** And for gods sake read your bibles!!* *In Christianity Blasphemy is False Teachings: Courts of heaven is a false teaching and blasphemous!* *Even if the false teaching of supposed courts in heaven is indulged? *And the argument further and say that sin does open a ‘door? *The devil still has no legal rights to access.* *It would be like us leaving the front door of our house open?* And a thief get into our homes? *Does the thief have any legal right to be inside of the home of course not!* *Just because I have accidentally left it open, it doesn’t mean a thief has a ‘legal’ right to go in?* *The thief is there illegally and has to get out!* *Because of the cross, sin is not the devil’s stronghold.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *Note it doesn’t use the word “Judge” *In John 1:2** It says an a *"Advocate* *With the* *“Father.”* *It’ is a family thing, not a judicial thing.?* *This is heresy it gives legal Satan power he never had and if it were true you can throw away your Bible especially the New Testament because you can jump up into some court of heaven and get both your own sins forgiven and the curses of your ancestors going back untold thousands of years!* *What a load of nonsense!* *Statement of fact! *There are no courts of heaven teaching and it is a heresy near blasphemy!* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.*

[@brendaboykin3281]

Thanx, Gentlemen 🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@davidl.williams7366]

I fully agree with their conclusions on this subject. But in the interest of not throwing the baby out with the bathwater, we must remember Prov25:2, in which God tells us he has hidden knowledge in His Word that is there for the kings and priests (us) to search out. I don't know of any preachers who want to come outside their safe box to seek and speak out those gems.

[@PEACEofGOD2day]

NOW we talking

[@aubrie_morgan]

Correct but to tell people they have to file a lawsuit or go to God in the court of heaven when our prayers aren’t being answered is ridiculous

[@spiritwardiaries]

Thank you for addressing these ideas. I heard about this stuff thru PrayingMedic.

[@heisthealphaandomegatheinf523]

*Any teaching that give more power to the Devil than he has is Satanic!* *The only being that really really really wants you to believe that he has been given back legal rights in heaven after Almighty God threw him out thousands of years ago in Satan/the Devil!* *Jesus paid it all. Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life.* *Praying in Jesus name to the Father is no longer good enough?* *That is an obscene heresy!* *Even Blasphemy!* *Those courts of heaven only exist in the imagination of Robert Henderson who by the way is not an apostle!*

[@whynot496]

@@heisthealphaandomegatheinf523 - You have no idea what you are talking about. You are arguing against something that Robert Henderson doesn't even teach. Your comments seem very quick to judge. Last I checked being quick to judge is not one of the fruits of the spirit...

[@ChaplainDaveSparks]

Who invented this? I *THOUGHT* I did … 🙂 While I never taught it, never wrote about it, and never practiced it, I did think of something that *SOUNDS* similar. It was basically the idea of writing out a prayer in the form of a _”court motion”._ Not that I thought it was *NECESSARY,* per se, but I had the notion that if I could cite Scriptures in support of my _”motion”,_ maybe that format would *HELP ME* to have more _”faith”_ that God would answer _(in the way I wanted Him to, of course)_ and that might sway the outcome …

[@singingstars5006]

It shows you your view of God. You see Him as a judge and legalist and not a loving Father who answers His children. Most Christians struggle with this, myself included, which I suspect is why the courts of heaven thing has so much traction.

[@missybrenner478]

I really like yall and appreciate your ministry. I have one question about a point. Y’all seem to discount as a part of valid prayer practice “identificational repentance” in this episode. But I do see it in scripture. Even in Daniel, in which y’all were discussing. Am I hearing y’all correctly?

[@dianahudgins]

You mention the leaders and others teaching this but I also noticed these titles on Rabbi Curtis Landry. But also mentions Dutch Sheets when seeking more information on the book. I also agree I feel at the end of the book it just dumps you out there without knowing what else to do. It feels like more "works" to have to do and makes me feel like I am gambling my life if that makes any sense.

[@williamphelps4552]

Good episode, It will definitely be on my radar now.

[@carltonclark5194]

i will never get a mirical if i have to get it this way

[@susanthroop7041]

Sounds like we have some theological issues with this book by Robert. I appreciated the charitable manner that you handled this analysis. In fairness to Robert and his book, I'd like to look at some other videos reviewing it and may even read it to get a better understanding. After that, I'll come back to make a more extensive comment. Thanks for addressing this as we certainly don't need more convoluted and Gnostic theologies added to the mix that is out there. Great work! Keep it up!!! Your ministry has been placed in my donation cycle and I will make one when your turn comes around.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

Jesus Journal: what an honor. Thank you.

[@melindajwiik]

Also check out Henderson’s web site for more error and stark lack of the gospel and glory to Christ. He spoke at my church and stated plainly that Jesus was a man but not as God during the incarnation, and it caused division.

[@andrealmoseley6575]

​@@melindajwiik I've never heard him say that. I've read some of his works and watched some videos. That doesn't seem like what I saw.

[@christincommon5496]

How about we let God, through His Word, instruct us and lead us? The problem is people reading too much teaching of other people’s ideas and too little study of the Word. If everyone just took a long break from books outside the Bible, perhaps their discernment might increase enough that we don’t have to have these discussions anymore. Ps attempting to force God’s hand to answer a prayer is quite obviously error. This is what happens when you have “big me, little God.”

[@grace4peace]

Did not Ken mention in another video that people who have adopted this teaching needed deliverance ministry?

[@storyofscripture]

This is amazing guys!

[@storyofscripture]

I wish Josh, would have gone into the Job 1 section with "the satan" when Ken was using that in reference to Luke 10

[@heisthealphaandomegatheinf523]

*Jesus paid it all. Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life.* *Praying in Jesus name to the Father is no longer good enough?* *That is an obscene heresy!* *What a load of nonsense!* *Statement of fact!* *There are no courts of heaven teaching and it is a heresy near blasphemy!* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.* *Jesus our Advocate in heaven paid it all* *If Satan has not been cast down then the salvation, power and kingdom of God have not come.* *The Father now has through the blood of Jesus to use the forgiveness of for His glory and our benefit!* *For those of you who have forgotten is the unmerited Grace of God through Jesus Christ the Lord?* *1 John 2 1* *My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father!* *Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.* *Jesus our Advocate in heaven paid it all* *Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life!* *There are no courts up in heaven and absolutely no need of them!.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *The only being that would want you to believe that the Devil has legal rights is the Devil!* *And now Robert Henderson?* *“Where are your accusers”* * - *Jesus * *John 8* *Has the salvation and the power and the kingdom of God come?* *Why is there half an hour of silence in heaven before Satan gets kicked out?* *The bible is very clear that He has been kicked out because of the Jesus and the cross and has no access to Heaven anymore.* *Courts of Heaven is a religious heresy rooted in the unbelief that Jesus has not accomplished salvation by his shed blood and unmerited grace* *If Satan is yapping like an annoying dog in heaven and accusing us without stopping (day and night)?* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.* *Pray to God in the Holy Name of the Lord Jesus Christ not this stupid heresy by going to some non existent courts of heaven.** And for gods sake read your bibles!!* *In Christianity Blasphemy is False Teachings: Courts of heaven is a false teaching and blasphemous!* *Even if the false teaching of supposed courts in heaven is indulged? *And the argument further and say that sin does open a ‘door? *The devil still has no legal rights to access.* *It would be like us leaving the front door of our house open?* And a thief get into our homes? *Does the thief have any legal right to be inside of the home of course not!* *Just because I have accidentally left it open, it doesn’t mean a thief has a ‘legal’ right to go in?* *The thief is there illegally and has to get out!* *Because of the cross, sin is not the devil’s stronghold.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *Note it doesn’t use the word “Judge” *In John 1:2** It says an a *"Advocate* *With the* *“Father.”* *It’ is a family thing, not a judicial thing.?* *This is heresy it gives legal Satan power he never had and if it were true you can throw away your Bible especially the New Testament because you can jump up into some court of heaven and get both your own sins forgiven and the curses of your ancestors going back untold thousands of years!* *What a load of nonsense!* *Statement of fact! *There are no courts of heaven teaching and it is a heresy near blasphemy!* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.*

[@sophietyrrell3131]

I love the Courts of heaven and there is nothing you can say against it that will change my mind and heart about it. There are too many scriptures and people who are genuinely being set free. For me it's a lifeline after so many years of bondage as christians.

[@billhildebrand5053]

From one bondage to another ?

[@manuelhurtadobusiness6884]

@@billhildebrand5053 No bro, in Christ our Advocate, and in his Blood that speaks better things before the Judge in heaven, there is no bondage.

[@billhildebrand5053]

@@manuelhurtadobusiness6884 as a true Christian, we are never under bondage. The top comment is not right, if Christ set us free,we are not in bondage...

[@Inapeartree]

@@billhildebrand5053 except we are still here on earth, a fallen world, and none of us are sinless. Every single day we must die to ourselves, therefore every single day, we risk being placed back into bondage if we're not always on the best behavior. That is the point of this. Regardless of how righteous you and I try to be, we will still sin over and over again, and every day need to repent and ask for forgiveness. Bondage is placed on us the moment we sin and the moment we struggle with things throughout our days. We open the door for satan to have his way with us. This is why Satan tried to convince Jesus to sin-- to cause Him to fall and have his way with Him. Yes, the Son sets us free, but when we've repented for all sins. Perpetual sin doesn't set one free and the sins of our fathers can still be upon us. Recognizing what sin does to us and what Jesus needs to do for us every day, is what brings freedom. But it's not, once save always saved. Nope. There are things we don't even know that we've done, and don't know things that our family has done, giving us generational curses. The Bible speaks of this. It's all fine and good to go to church and think that you just say, "father forgive me", and think that fixes things, but it's not the case. we need to really recognize what is going on, and how to be lifted up and out of these curses and generational diseases, and cycles and know how to not repeat them and allow the holy spirit to guide us. And that comes from daily time with God. But how many of us can do this all day every day? Many of us are trapped in our own bondage of work, commitments, and other worldly things. Bondage is getting into this mindset that as long as you play it safe and keep thing simple, you're safe. But No. Churches that present this type of "safe" ministry, is neither bold or safe. The moment something comes along that rattles the cage, people in these churches don't know what to do. Many churches today preach love and messages that everyone wants to hear-- love and being set free. How does the church deal with congregations being set free when someone's grown female child is claiming to be a boy, and then tries commiting suicide while transitioning? Or when one may become a heroin addict despite growing up in the church? Or couple cheats on one another, or becomes an atheist?... etc etc etc. These churches don't share a larger picture, nor discuss why these things may happen and how to deal with it by turning to God Himself, as opposed to a licensed psychologist instead. I read some of this Henderson book, and I'm sorry, but I don't think it is as off the track as everyone is speculating. Every book that's not the Bible, needs to be followed with some discernment, but not every book that's not the Bible should be thought of as demonic trash either.

[@aubrie_morgan]

Ridiculous smh

[@tango400016]

Lovely content. Just a heads up that the audio and video doesnt line up in some parts

[@markscott4830]

This teaching is similiar to Mormon baptizing of relatives without their permission

[@davidenglund]

@theremnantradio, would you describe Jonathan Cahn as a "Gnostic teacher?" I tend to reject his teachings and books out of hand as it seems to me he's just making things up. But, I'm thinking, based on your conversation in this video, that Cahn might be a "Gnostic teacher" who sees "mysteries" in scriptures that one would otherwise not see. Its possible this approach could bring encouragement, but it hardly seems scriptural to me and should be suspect unless it proves itself after the fact. Thoughts?

[@singingstars5006]

Jonathan Cahn is a rabbi and he might see things in Scripture we don't see as he is Jewish. His book on the Return of the gods is really excellent and eye opening and very much relevant to deliverance ministry. But I know nothing about his other teachings.

[@tylerjohnson1352]

Maybe you covered this but it would be good to interview the people themselves if you’re going to critique their views

[@whynot496]

Excellent point. All of their arguments seem to be focus on their own misinterpretations.

[@VeriousSmithIII]

EXACTLY!!

[@singingstars5006]

If people's books are so poorly written that one needs to interview them to understand the book, that is not a good sign. If the books are clear, then an interview is not necessary.

[@antoniettegonzales]

Is it considered secret knowledge to obtain the name of the demon causing a disease and pray against that by name? This practice is concerning.

[@aubrie_morgan]

Its called consulting with a familiar spirit.

[@singingstars5006]

Guys, Jesus asked a demon its name to cast it out by name. If Jesus did it, it's completely biblical.

[@andrealmoseley6575]

I'm glad you clarified that you're not heretic hunters, etc. because at first glance that is really what it seemed you were. You'd show up in my YT feed with these titles about how you were discrediting this or that. I watched one episode that intrigued me and subscribed. Then saw several more where it felt like you were making fun of anyone who thought the way you were against and I unsubscribed. Then you showed up in my feed again, I guess because you presented information I was studying at the time. I didn't resubscribe but I have listened to a few thoughtful presentations. Just thought you might want to know how you come across if you're goal is something else. Blessings.

[@JanKolodziejek]

I agree..the snickering and inside joke references detract from their analysis attempts. And in this particular episode, which is the only episode I’ve ever ever seen, the two regular hosts continuously state that they are being gracious to who they are actually trying to analyze/challenge, but it comes off as disingenuous.

[@Lillaloppan]

Thank you!

[@geriannfluegeman4291]

The courts of heaven = heresy plain and simple. KING Jesus taught us how to pray = The Lord's prayer.

[@johncolbert749]

Great job men of God! I'm running into these things in my church I have studied gnosticism a bit red flags are flying all over the place because I understand hermeneutics exegesis and not using Parables this Doctrine. Paul says do not go beyond what is written. Jesus said my words are spirit and they are life. If we have a foundation in the scriptures and understand the old Covenant versus the new, it will help us interpret these things and rightly divide the word of Truth. But I'm running into folks that have no solid Biblical Foundation and their way out of balance in the wind or Spirit side and not bringing into the center moderation in the Greek the word side versus the spirit side. Very enlightening thank you brothers and we're going to keep going on this and investigating as the Lord gives us discernment in Hebrews 5:14 whether it is good or evil Doctrine. Is it says twisting the scriptures to their own destruction Gathering unto themselves teachers having itching ears. Great job I'm looking forward to the next podcast on exegesis. Much love and praying for you all Pastor John Collins from wind and word Lifehouse in Seminole Florida. 727-458-9963

[@CARADESIREE]

Ty for your research here and and what about Dr Ron Horner ?

[@janeth3139]

I'm really glad you created these videos! I had a friend recommend his books a couple of years ago and i went as far as going on his website and ordered the first book and some videos that went along with the series. However something never set right with me and I never read the book. I've searched for a review of these teachings and couldn't find anything until now.

[@whynot496]

You should have read the book. This video completely misinterprets Robert Hendersons book. If you don't agree with his books that's fine, but they only argue against your own misinterpretations of his book. Stating his book teaches that God's hands are bound until we release God in the courts of heaven, is one example. You could use the same misguided arguments about prayer in general. In 1 Thessalonians 5 Paul tells us that God has given Christians the ability to quench/restrict what the Holy Spirit does in our lives or in the church. Robert Hendersons book doesn't say anything more controversial than what Paul said in 1 Thessalonians.

[@dianaldrich4787]

Found this very helpful

[@sherebiahtishbi]

Guide the guests to speak in the microphone.....he is going in and out as he is way too far from the mic ...the talk is absolutely needed and right on ..thank you so much.

[@heisthealphaandomegatheinf523]

*Any teaching that give more power to the Devil than he has is Satanic!* *The only being that really really really wants you to believe that he has been given back legal rights in heaven after Almighty God threw him out thousands of years ago in Satan/the Devil!* *Jesus paid it all. Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life.* *Praying in Jesus name to the Father is no longer good enough?* *That is an obscene heresy!* *Even Blasphemy!* *Those courts of heaven only exist in the imagination of Robert Henderson who by the way is not an apostle!*

[@masondupuis1618]

This whole idea was really big in kabbalistic thought as well! (minus the New Testament of course lol)

[@ekchris8]

Can you briefly explain tie to Kabbala? Thanks

[@lizreuber7945]

It would be great to hear a podcast where the gentleman who wrote the courts of heaven, Robert Henderson would be chatting with all of you in the same room.

[@pblonrongracie]

Word of faith teaches this too.

[@singingstars5006]

No, it doesn't. I'm familiar with Pentecostal teaching and this is not there.

[@sonnyh9774]

Just because Satan was thrown out, that doesn't mean that he can't go back and forth like the Bible clearly says and Jesus reaffirms that Satan requested or submitted a petition to sift Peter like wheat. So, I see loosey-goosey play with the texts on both sides. The answer is probably somewhere in the middle. Just because God doesn't give us specific instructions, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. God didn't give us specific teaching on the Trinity. We had to figure it out and use our brain and read between the lines. God gives us what we need and more for those who want to dig and work for it.

[@MagdalenaSarmiento]

Right on!

[@skylercutsforth8595]

I don't in any sense or regard follow the court of heaven prayer mindset but when listening to the portion 16:14 to about 17:35, I was thinking of how it might be connected to how some believe we are saved being, "free will choice of faith for salvation". This being similar because us choosing him is kind of like us allowing him to save us, in a way. And I can see some might associate God saving someone against their will as being unjust, and equating this to mean God "can't" do this because of his self holding just character, he is bound by upholding his own just and perfect nature in the way he can't commit sin because it is opposite from who he IS. (though this isn't sound because saving someone who doesn't want to be saved isn't necessarily unjust?) But just how it might apply to God's nature of upholding perfect justice and them misinterpreting/exploiting what exactly that could mean in how heaven works.. This just to say, I can see how this teaching can understandably convince people. But at the root of it, the bible seems to more so disprove it than ever supporting. There is a heavenly court where God determines decrees, but I agree that the nature of this is not like our courtroom. God decides everything and if there are rules to how he decides them- the bible doesn't tell us them therefore it is up to God and does NOT concern us. For we don't need anymore than what he has reviewed to us because the bible is profitable for teaching and instruction into ALL godliness. It's God breathed. Very dangerously gnostic thinking to uncover the secrets of heaven- some things are not lawful for us to speak of even if we have revelation of them as Paul wrote.

[@billparker5457]

"Some things are not lawful for us to speak", gee that sounds like legal language. The kind you would use in a courtroom setting. You are sounding extremely gnostic, is that a secret revelation you got from Paul?

[@skylercutsforth8595]

@@billparker5457 haha you joking? Or did you not read it from the bible? Not my words. 2 Corinthians 12:4

[@billparker5457]

@@skylercutsforth8595 Skyler, Paul many times uses legal terms because he was a lawyer. He gives us his credentials of all the great Israelite rabbis he studied under. The Pharisees were lawyers, the Sanhedrin was a religious and legal body. The government of Rome was involved, and Jesus represented a real threat to the puppet government of Judah ( 1/2 of the past nation of Israel). One of the roles that Messiah would fill Is that the Government shall rest upon his shoulders, one day He will reign over a Nation, and ultimately all the Nations of the Earth for a determined period of Time(which is a physical property). There are Physical Laws of the Universe that were established by our Creator, Our Creator is not bound or confined to His Universe, in our bodies-you and I can't even escape this tiny solar system. Our Spirit(born of Him) will leave this planet and return to its source(a property of electricity is it always seeks to return to its source-we are electric beings-designed by our Creator-He is not -He is beyond that). The Angel He left in charge with Moses operated expressly under the guidelines or legal boundaries of the Torah, there was no wiggle room, or gray areas, It was black and white. Except for the Throne of Mercy, You may come boldly before His Throne of Mercy, that is not the Court of Heaven. The Throne of Mercy was established by God, but someone died for our Mercy. Someone shed His Blood for Us. His obedience allowed Him Access Before the Court of Heaven revealed to us in the Book of Daniel. Where A Judgement was rendered in behalf of The Saints(you,me, us Belevers). That Has Happened and Has become A Precedent Ruling or Decree. It is described in our scriptures in the book of Daniel. We make our Petitions known to our Father(The Judge) Through our Advocate(the Risen Yeshua-He has a name known only by the Father, there is also a legal adversary present that has access because he is still the Prince of the Power of the Air(if you haven't noticed he still has a presence here that gives him access to the court-Jesus warned us "What you loose on earth will be loosed in Heaven, what you bind on earth will be bound in Heaven". When He left, He commanded us to go into All the Earth, establish the Gospel, which means Bind up the Devil and his works, AND release the Kingdom of Our God and His Savior Through the Power of the Holy Spirit. One manifestation of His power is Electric in Nature. If you study the exact and precise details given to Moses on how to enter His Presence it's based on the laws of electricity and the flow of current. The High Priest was basically insulated and grounded before he could enter in on that one day a year. Aaron's 2 sons did not follow the safety protocol the first time they went in and got burned up to a crisp, Buzzi reached out and touched the Ark and got fried as well. Those standards were given to protect us, not punish us. If you have ever gone to Court, you know that you better not goof around in there or you will find yourself in deep trouble.

[@skylercutsforth8595]

@@billparker5457 Struggling to find a coherent line of reasoning here, I don’t believe in the courts of heaven. Are you saying I do? Are you saying you do? I don’t think I’m gnostic I try to only draw conclusions only from what I can clearly depict from scripture. I don’t think Paul’s background with the Parasitical law is why he did not consider it permit-able for him to explain what he heard/saw, it seemed clear that he was just revealed things that were too great for us. I don’t see how the nature of us having electrical make up would have anything to do anything, (though it is potentially cool concept) especially doesn’t help to disprove the courts of heaven teachings. If anything the electricity stuff sounds closer to gnosticism than providing clarity, as sure there is some hints to it biblically maybe, but its not revealed from God as being any concern of ours the electric nature of our bodies.. especially not if we start making conclusions from that. Totally agree we were given laws and decrees, often times for our own good and safety. Also totally agree that God is outside of his own creation, and he does not HAVE to consider or try to abide by any law. But that also does not mean he does not act in accordance with his perfectly Just and Loving character and promises.

[@billparker5457]

@@skylercutsforth8595 The Court is Real, the terminology is not metaphorical. Their is a Judge, an Accuser, and an Advocate. There is a Sheriff, or Seraph (plural Seraphim). The Sheriff is the enforcer in the courtroom, and he carries out the judgements and he arrests those in violation, when he receives a judgement. Your prayers or petitions get arrested or blocked for outstanding judgements or warrants against you, or me. You can have your prayers blocked for unforgiveness or for being in turmoil with your wife. It's not hidden it's clearly stated, and there are many examples given, but if you don't see it that's fine with me. I learned a long time ago not to waste time trying to persuade anybody of anything. I have experienced many things with the Most High God and His only Twice Begotten Son. It doesn't say, His Only Son, it says His only Begotten Son, He is the creator of many Sons and Daughters, but only One was Begotten and then Begotten again. His Will is always Good to Us and for Us, He Loves none of us more than the others but His Intimacy with Us does vary, based on how hard we pursue Him on His Terms. The more intimate we are with Him, more of Himself He will reveal to us, as we mature and show that we can be trusted with the responsibility that goes with whatever He trusts us with. He obviously could trust Paul. Jesus wanted to share a lot more with the disciples but He said that they weren't able to bear it yet, so He did not reveal it yet. Gnosticism is not hidden knowledge. There are many things in scripture that we miss. How many times have you heard people talk about the 144,000 Jews that serve the Lord in the end times, its spoken of in Revelation 7, well it's not 144,000 Jews. It's 144,000 Israelites. There's only 12,000 from the tribe of Judah, the tribes of Reuben, Gad, Asher, Naphtali, Manasseh, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, Zebulon, Joseph and Benjamin also have 12,000 each. NOT 144,000 JEWS. My point is that in our haste we make and assume a lot of incorrect "truth". The truth shall set you free. It doesn't say that. It says You shall know the truth , and the truth that you know shall set you free. What is implied is that You have to be a doer of the truth and not a hearer only.

[@JesusIsComing1111]

Very good!!!

[@heisthealphaandomegatheinf523]

*Jesus paid it all. Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life.* *Praying in Jesus name to the Father is no longer good enough?* *That is an obscene heresy!* *What a load of nonsense!* *Statement of fact!* *There are no courts of heaven teaching and it is a heresy near blasphemy!* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.* *Jesus our Advocate in heaven paid it all* *If Satan has not been cast down then the salvation, power and kingdom of God have not come.* *The Father now has through the blood of Jesus to use the forgiveness of for His glory and our benefit!* *For those of you who have forgotten is the unmerited Grace of God through Jesus Christ the Lord?* *1 John 2 1* *My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father!* *Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.* *Jesus our Advocate in heaven paid it all* *Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life!* *There are no courts up in heaven and absolutely no need of them!.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *The only being that would want you to believe that the Devil has legal rights is the Devil!* *And now Robert Henderson?* *“Where are your accusers”* * - *Jesus * *John 8* *Has the salvation and the power and the kingdom of God come?* *Why is there half an hour of silence in heaven before Satan gets kicked out?* *The bible is very clear that He has been kicked out because of the Jesus and the cross and has no access to Heaven anymore.* *Courts of Heaven is a religious heresy rooted in the unbelief that Jesus has not accomplished salvation by his shed blood and unmerited grace* *If Satan is yapping like an annoying dog in heaven and accusing us without stopping (day and night)?* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.* *Pray to God in the Holy Name of the Lord Jesus Christ not this stupid heresy by going to some non existent courts of heaven.** And for gods sake read your bibles!!* *In Christianity Blasphemy is False Teachings: Courts of heaven is a false teaching and blasphemous!* *Even if the false teaching of supposed courts in heaven is indulged? *And the argument further and say that sin does open a ‘door? *The devil still has no legal rights to access.* *It would be like us leaving the front door of our house open?* And a thief get into our homes? *Does the thief have any legal right to be inside of the home of course not!* *Just because I have accidentally left it open, it doesn’t mean a thief has a ‘legal’ right to go in?* *The thief is there illegally and has to get out!* *Because of the cross, sin is not the devil’s stronghold.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *Note it doesn’t use the word “Judge” *In John 1:2** It says an a *"Advocate* *With the* *“Father.”* *It’ is a family thing, not a judicial thing.?* *This is heresy it gives legal Satan power he never had and if it were true you can throw away your Bible especially the New Testament because you can jump up into some court of heaven and get both your own sins forgiven and the curses of your ancestors going back untold thousands of years!* *What a load of nonsense!* *Statement of fact! *There are no courts of heaven teaching and it is a heresy near blasphemy!* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.*

[@markscott4830]

good point

[@gabrielajuarez873]

Please can you do this in Spanish I need to share with friends

[@manuelhurtadobusiness6884]

Mejor no, tengo un grado en teologia y otro en sagradas escrituras. En su web ninguno de estos muestran ningún estudio o título teológico. Solo hablan y hablan, acusan y dicen falsedades, tanto acerca del libro de Robert Henderson, como de la Biblia. No definen lo que es el gnosticismo, no saben lo que es, pero acusan a R. H. de ser gnóstico. R. H. jamás habla de oraciones secretas. Yo mismo no estoy de acuerdo al 100% con R. H., pero sí en lo básico. Ken Fish declara que no existe tal cosa como una corte judicial en la Biblia, pero el rey Salomón juzgó a las 2 prostitutas en su corte. Heb. 12: 22 describe una corte celestial con abogado, juez, testigos, y pago por el delito, la Sangre de Cristo. Sería muy fácil desmontar cada una de las mentiras de estos 3. Mejor hubieran invitado a alguien para defender la doctrina de las Cortes Celestiales.

[@BrockDouglas]

I read the book Healing in the Courts of Heaven. I found it really complicated to even understand how to receive healing. You would need a Seer to tell you what is preventing your healing and plead your case as to why you deserve healing. He believes that Job is the perfect example as to why we're allowed to cursed with sickness with the approval of God. It was pretty depressing to think that the devil could lie to God and God would believe it and then allow us to get sick because of a lie that the Devil told. I hope I'm remembering it correctly and not misquoting his premise.

[@spiritwardiaries]

I know right?!🤷‍♀️🙋‍♀️ I would rather keep it simple and have Yeshua as my lawyer lol. I looked into some of it because of PrayingMedic.... but I dont listen to him anymore.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

So true Brock!

[@heisthealphaandomegatheinf523]

*Jesus paid it all. Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life.* *Praying in Jesus name to the Father is no longer good enough?* *That is an obscene heresy!* *What a load of nonsense!* *Statement of fact!* *There are no courts of heaven teaching and it is a heresy near blasphemy!* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.* *Jesus our Advocate in heaven paid it all* *If Satan has not been cast down then the salvation, power and kingdom of God have not come.* *The Father now has through the blood of Jesus to use the forgiveness of for His glory and our benefit!* *For those of you who have forgotten is the unmerited Grace of God through Jesus Christ the Lord?* *1 John 2 1* *My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father!* *Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.* *Jesus our Advocate in heaven paid it all* *Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life!* *There are no courts up in heaven and absolutely no need of them!.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *The only being that would want you to believe that the Devil has legal rights is the Devil!* *And now Robert Henderson?* *“Where are your accusers”* * - *Jesus * *John 8* *Has the salvation and the power and the kingdom of God come?* *Why is there half an hour of silence in heaven before Satan gets kicked out?* *The bible is very clear that He has been kicked out because of the Jesus and the cross and has no access to Heaven anymore.* *Courts of Heaven is a religious heresy rooted in the unbelief that Jesus has not accomplished salvation by his shed blood and unmerited grace* *If Satan is yapping like an annoying dog in heaven and accusing us without stopping (day and night)?* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.* *Pray to God in the Holy Name of the Lord Jesus Christ not this stupid heresy by going to some non existent courts of heaven.** And for gods sake read your bibles!!* *In Christianity Blasphemy is False Teachings: Courts of heaven is a false teaching and blasphemous!* *Even if the false teaching of supposed courts in heaven is indulged? *And the argument further and say that sin does open a ‘door? *The devil still has no legal rights to access.* *It would be like us leaving the front door of our house open?* And a thief get into our homes? *Does the thief have any legal right to be inside of the home of course not!* *Just because I have accidentally left it open, it doesn’t mean a thief has a ‘legal’ right to go in?* *The thief is there illegally and has to get out!* *Because of the cross, sin is not the devil’s stronghold.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *Note it doesn’t use the word “Judge” *In John 1:2** It says an a *"Advocate* *With the* *“Father.”* *It’ is a family thing, not a judicial thing.?* *This is heresy it gives legal Satan power he never had and if it were true you can throw away your Bible especially the New Testament because you can jump up into some court of heaven and get both your own sins forgiven and the curses of your ancestors going back untold thousands of years!* *What a load of nonsense!* *Statement of fact! *There are no courts of heaven teaching and it is a heresy near blasphemy!* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.*

[@BrockDouglas]

HE IS THE ALPHA AND OMEGA THE INFINITE ONE I don’t know of I would go as far as calling the teaching heresy. For him it’s only used when healing hasn’t come. I will say that he is one of the Few teachers that give a reason as to why someone isn’t getting healed. That’s why I read the book. Most teachers will just say we have to be okay with the mister as to why we’re not healed. Again for him it’s just a last resort when praying for healing.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

Brock Douglas: but an answer untethered from scripture is not a biblical answer. Wright? We didn’t call him a heretic. We did say he flirts with heresy. And we are not making up a category of heresy on our own. the early church called gnostic teachings heresy, we are only agreeing with defined categories that are 1500+ years old. And we never said that Anderson was a gnostic because he does not hold most gnostic teachers. For example he would deny the playroma or Marcianism and other essential teachings be considered Gnostic by the most thorough of deffinitions, witch i would call a heretical standard.

[@markwallace1251]

You're getting pretty close to the headwaters with the mention of Ian Clayton...

[@jucat60]

Yes Ian Clayton I am very wary of .

[@MagdalenaSarmiento]

Too complicated. Jesus taught us to pray. Why go beyond that? Who can then pray?

[@duncescotus2342]

Oh the devil is such a legalist.

[@BrianScarborough-wb7xn]

This Courts of Heaven thing sounds a lot like the Calvinist view that God has a declared will ((Scripture) and a decretal will that He actually performs

[@rw9692]

Robert Henderson is a very nice man, but, he came out of the "Toronto Blessing". He started in error, so it makes sense he has error. I don't follow the teaching, I read the book and threw it away. In 47 years, God has answered my prayers without going to "the courts of heaven!"

[@elisabethwilhelm2042]

I get that the purpose of this discussion is to put forth a specific viewpoint, but as one who does follow Robert Henderson, I think a discussion WITH him would be more meaningful. Too many of your perspectives are just guesswork (necromancy, really?) which he could clarify....after all, it is his book and his insight.

[@belajb]

there is a lot of legal terminology in the bible...why put another brother down and but not rightly explain what all the legal terminology means?

[@Cinnamon_Girl_1978]

Someone has to speak the truth this is complete heresy and demonic false teaching. Call it what it is!!! Anyone involved in this needs to repent. This is offensive to God and His incredible gift of His Son.

[@andrealmoseley6575]

This is not what I got from his books and videos. Granted, I haven't read all of them, but have got the gist. I've studied gnosticism as well. My understanding is that when you are stuck, when something is continually coming against you, ask God if something is holding up the answer. When I did spiritual warfare, addressed some things from my past, especially some things my parents were involved in, I got breakthrough. I wouldn't have gotten the knowledge to pray the way I did had I not looked into this courtroom teaching. I didn't sense that I had to do all the things you addressed. Just in prayer, asking God what the hold up was. There are many testimonials of people getting breakthrough from this approach. I think this was misrepresented in this video IMO. The people I know that follow this line of prayer are not gnostics and especiallyare not necromancers. I don't remember any of this focus on secret stuff. Maybe he's changed. Maybe it has developed further. But years ago, just the basic thought of asking God what is holding up an answer was the main point I was seeing in his teachings. Based on several passages like Daniel not getting an answer right away. I haven't read or heard the cloud of witnesses part. Must be a newer teaching. I am grateful that you guys do discuss things like this but wish someone was here to post the other side and bring more clarity.

[@JanKolodziejek]

These are all my thoughts exactly! I just started studying the courts of heaven, and have found Henderson‘s interpretations to be quite biblical. I mean, ultimately God is just, and always acts in ultimate justice! I mean, salvation was a legal transaction!

[@whittakerdanielj]

It is a creation of a spiritual world that reminds me of imperial courts. It is a creation of the mind. I once came across a preacher who spoke that when God has given Christians the power and authority he emancipates himself from the power and authority. This is not Biblical.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

I absolutely agree.

[@heisthealphaandomegatheinf523]

@@TheRemnantRadio *Jesus paid it all. Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life.* *Praying in Jesus name to the Father is no longer good enough?* *That is an obscene heresy!* *What a load of nonsense!* *Statement of fact!* *There are no courts of heaven teaching and it is a heresy near blasphemy!* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.* *Jesus our Advocate in heaven paid it all* *If Satan has not been cast down then the salvation, power and kingdom of God have not come.* *The Father now has through the blood of Jesus to use the forgiveness of for His glory and our benefit!* *For those of you who have forgotten is the unmerited Grace of God through Jesus Christ the Lord?* *1 John 2 1* *My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father!* *Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.* *Jesus our Advocate in heaven paid it all* *Satan has been kicked out. Satan has no legal right to your life!* *There are no courts up in heaven and absolutely no need of them!.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *The only being that would want you to believe that the Devil has legal rights is the Devil!* *And now Robert Henderson?* *“Where are your accusers”* * - *Jesus * *John 8* *Has the salvation and the power and the kingdom of God come?* *Why is there half an hour of silence in heaven before Satan gets kicked out?* *The bible is very clear that He has been kicked out because of the Jesus and the cross and has no access to Heaven anymore.* *Courts of Heaven is a religious heresy rooted in the unbelief that Jesus has not accomplished salvation by his shed blood and unmerited grace* *If Satan is yapping like an annoying dog in heaven and accusing us without stopping (day and night)?* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.* *Pray to God in the Holy Name of the Lord Jesus Christ not this stupid heresy by going to some non existent courts of heaven.** And for gods sake read your bibles!!* *In Christianity Blasphemy is False Teachings: Courts of heaven is a false teaching and blasphemous!* *Even if the false teaching of supposed courts in heaven is indulged? *And the argument further and say that sin does open a ‘door? *The devil still has no legal rights to access.* *It would be like us leaving the front door of our house open?* And a thief get into our homes? *Does the thief have any legal right to be inside of the home of course not!* *Just because I have accidentally left it open, it doesn’t mean a thief has a ‘legal’ right to go in?* *The thief is there illegally and has to get out!* *Because of the cross, sin is not the devil’s stronghold.* *How can anyone in their right mind bring Satan into heaven to debate with Jesus or any mere mortal?* *Note it doesn’t use the word “Judge” *In John 1:2** It says an a *"Advocate* *With the* *“Father.”* *It’ is a family thing, not a judicial thing.?* *This is heresy it gives legal Satan power he never had and if it were true you can throw away your Bible especially the New Testament because you can jump up into some court of heaven and get both your own sins forgiven and the curses of your ancestors going back untold thousands of years!* *What a load of nonsense!* *Statement of fact! *There are no courts of heaven teaching and it is a heresy near blasphemy!* *It is just nonsense to supposed some method or the other would be more effective in getting the answer from Almighty God?* *That is like attempting to twisting the arm or will of the Sovereign Almighty God.*

[@ronjordan2831]

You guys seem to be introducing heresy into the mix.

[@home8630]

I read the series of the Courts of Heaven, they plan on writing more to the series. I found them to be upsetting, grieving, allarming, corrupt, still 1 John 4 the spirit of truth with the spirit of error. There needs to be going through this series with a fine tooth comb, so nothing is missed, to say exactly what it is. When you pass it off as gnostic its too broad, its more to it than that. In the series, he reveals his plans, and where he believes God is leading the church. Its those plans that are allarming. Also when people read books like these that are questionable, upsetting beyond measure, however there is a correction in there, that makes you also question and come into correction. Its His plan he wants to do that is very, very, very disturbing. It makes me say to the church WAKE UP. It makes me say to the Watchmen, WAKE UP, it makes me say to the men, that are leading in the church and meant to be also protecting the church along with Humanity, WAKE UP. I know what true prayer is, but this is still the issue I had in 2003, is the selfish, self serving, vain prayers, that makes people, focus on themselves, and not care about others. Or they only focus on God and themselves, and everyone else, we don't care about you, we are all for ourselves. When I finish this prayer book, I close this and never want to open it again, and it leaves me absolutely upset, grieved because its soul destroying and devastating, that it makes me weep, where is the love and where is the care for others...where is the love of other members of the body of Christ where is the together. My soul can't stop crying with grief. WAKE UP. And don't just wake up take action, because these plans are world wide domination and take over to rule and take over the word and earth. And to address the No one has done this before, No that is not true. However no one has done this corrupted version before that is true.

[@ceciliasheppard1590]

The court of heaven is closed for those who knows that Resurrection took care of it that’s why God showed John that the accuser (the prosecutor) is cast down. But if a Christian don’t know that, then the devil will still use his authority to kill, still and destroy. Ressurection dismisses our case. Court adjourn. Case closed. Amen, hallelujah to the Lamb and Lion. We are free if we understand Resurrection.

[@manuelhurtado7599]

"Gnostics considered the principal element of salvation to be direct knowledge of the supreme divinity in the form of mystical or esoteric insight. Many Gnostic texts deal not in concepts of sin and repentance, but with illusion and enlightenment". From Elaine Pagel (1989), The Gnostic Gospels, New York: Random House (Also in wikipedia: Gnosticism). OK...? What does this have to do with Robert Henderson and his books...?

[@aubrie_morgan]

You must not have read your own post. Or understand what Henderson teaches.

[@VeriousSmithIII]

Dead people in heaven???? THERE ARE NO DEAD IN HEAVEN!

[@belajb]

cabernet?

[@ronjordan2831]

Michael Heiser was a philosopher that didn't view scripture as the word of God.

[@ramonatuma6928]

Will you please let Ken fish talk. He is not sarcastic, and he is a gentleman, by letting the two of you chat on.