A Severely Overrated and Garbage ROBLOX Game | Horizon Blue: 1919

[@BetaSalvationYT]

Outro had to be muted because of copyright. Click here for the actual outro: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaSWfWhpitOdaZIsi=eVDcCVQ599-qB6Dz *EDIT:* Since people don't understand why I was so critical of the artillery (my fault for not clarifying), here is the issue: it's all about the lack of commitment from friendly fire. I took it out of the recording since I thought it dragged on for too long, but why did I hate this game's artillery? Is it because of skill issue? Is it because I hate realism? No. It's because the developers and the recent war game trend on ROBLOX seems to revolve entirely around the idea of having horrible artillery mechanics that solely serve nothing but to be a total annoyance to players than to feel impactful. I loved Rising Storm 2's artillery system. It's player-directed that forced people to cooperate together to plan out precise artillery drops to wipe out the enemy, else they either bomb nothing and waste a good bombing target or accidentally kill their own team. It punishes players for making bad decisions. Karelia's artillery was decent, but only because it committed to the rule of "no friendly fire", so it still relied on team-based coordination to encourage precise targets so artillery is *meaningful*. Horizon Blue's artillery system is utter hot garbage when you realise that it completely fails to commit to whether the game wants to be fully implement friendly fire or to avoid it. *You can't appeal to both sides of the spectrum at once, yet this game tries to do so anyways and fails miserably.* I'm still very critical of Centaura's artillery system, but I tolerate that game's artillery system now since they added artillery tracers that made it feel SIGNIFICANTLY less random. Horizon Blue's artillery is just garbage. It hits in random places as you saw before they had to *NERF IT TWO TIMES*. Again, I would've been more forgiving if the enemy artillery was the one to kill me more than friendly, but at launch, friendly artillery more likely to kill you than enemy artillery. This still plays into my argument (which I should've clarified) about having to commit to friendly fire: if you're going to make artillery have friendly fire, then make the whole game friendly fire. FORCE players to watch who they're shooting at before they engage. Make the game more slow and methodical. That's why I loved Rising Storm 2. Do not attempt to throw in "realism" or "historical accuracy" as a way to defend the mechanic; you're just defending bad game designs that perpetuate the slop that the ROBLOX platform suffers from a nearly daily basis.

[@GutsandBlackpowderSweat]

@@BetaSalvationYT :(

[@blank2.0]

I truly wonder how roblox devs can make a jankier version of Red Orchestra 2 and Verdun... even though both games were released years ago and are the epitome of jankiness. This includes Karelia too. No leaning mechanic, terrible grenade physics, needing to GRIND for multiple weapons (not just upgrading them), lack of settings to tweak controls (like manual bolting or click to aim), etcetc. Maybe the lead dev is just lobotomized or something. Personally, I think Centaura gets a pass on their arty mechanics mainly because you aren't heavily reliant on tickets being a main factor for a match and it's more of an arcade-y game rather than a tactical shooter; I'll go to Post Scriptum or RO2 for that. 'Die to arty? Well private, respawn back in and engage the chaos of No Man's Land once more!'

[@MyHandleIsOfMany]

That’s because WW1 artillery WAS innacurate, not to be a “annoyance” to players. I get your argument, and it is a fair one, under the right circumstances, but I have to disagree with most of your points. (Also, stop hating on everybody p.v.s lover, don’t comment hating on my opinion like you always do, I will most certainly ignore your ranting, thank you for your time and be a better KZbinr and people might watch you more.

[@MyHandleIsOfMany]

That’s because WW1 artillery WAS innacurate, not to be a “annoyance” to players. I get your argument, and it is a fair one, under the right circumstances, but I have to disagree with most of your points. (Also, stop hating on everybody p.v.z lover, don’t comment hating on my opinion like you always do, I will most certainly ignore your ranting, thank you for your time and be a better KZbinr and people might watch you more.

[@raptor1302g]

imagine your dmbas rating world war 1 in real life, what are you gonna say, "the artillery junk from the 1900s is annoying because it doesnt aim like a railgun or accurate like a railgun", respect your own world you fool since it is the reality

[@juliomoreno2396]

the game literally has 100 players.. overrated? really?

[@MissingSpy0]

Fr, the good games are underrated

[@starpaladin2287]

It has a hundred because the developers said they weren't gonna continue to work on it. It's unfortunate because it's such a good game

[@IusedtobeUSA]

@@starpaladin2287 that’s probably why he hates it as well and he’s also bad at the game

[@MarcoAdventures]

I feel like this is a documentary video about how not to make videogame reviews.

[@Eye5x5]

how to lose all respect in one video

[@hawkboy.]

So, about the hitboxes... They're not bad. The hit-reg and hitboxes are literally identical to Karelia, with the exception of the head hitboxes being smaller in Horizon Blue; Horizon Blue's gun system is just a lightly modified version of Karelia's. So why do you get hit in multiple limbs? Basically, all bullets have penetration, and if you get shot center-mass, and you're aiming (so you arms are covering your torso), the bullet can hit *both your hands/arms, then penetrate and hit your chest.* This does happen in Karelia, but because the damage is way higher, you tend to just straight up die 95%+ the time you get hit in two or more limbs. I even caught some moments where this happened in your Karelia review, but you either bled out or got shot again and died before noticing. Your second example of bad hit-reg was literally an artillery shell. They have shrapnel. Your body is gonna get shredded. source: i was a tester and i asked the dev + basic logic

[@FritzTheGerman]

this made me realise why i get hit in my whole torso from one part. ima stop gettin mad at that

[@DukeOfVienna-AustrianEmpire]

No man, play the game, theyre pure shit

[@ADcommenter]

People tend to forget that the reason why soldiers duck for cover from a grenade (or in this case an artillery shell) that is far away is because the shrapnel flies far like bullets in random directions

[@hawkboy.]

@@ADcommenter Absolutely. And this is how the shrapnel from artillery worked in the pre-release state of the game, which I was a tester for. And people HATED it SO much that the dev severely nerfed the range of shrapnel.

[@Riller46]

I actually liked the game even with the flaws, maybe if it was released 6-7 months from its initial release it wouldn’t not just be called another WW1 game

[@H.E.C.U_amugos]

Is literally ww1 but the American didn't joined the war Britain gave up And there is no treaty of Versailles

[@Paul_maistre]

@@H.E.C.U_amugosyour actually wrong. The lore states that a year after the armistice ended the countries went back to war but this doesn’t make sense since Germany would barely last due to food shortages and also WWI didn’t exactly end until 1919 yes fighting stopped in 1918 but the war did not officially end until 1919 after the treaty of Versailles but the lore would be better if the Great War continued rather than the countries going right back to war

[@Man_Aslume]

​@@Paul_maistreyeah the lore kinda sounds like a trainwreck

[@Paul_maistre]

@@Man_Aslume yeah realistically it should be that the war never ended and Germany never suffered from the blockade and they had adapted to engage the enemy tanks as their factories produced more of their own but the actual lore is weird because Germany would be in no condition to fight and why would they when negotiations were happening? Like by now Germany would be ruled by Frederick ebhardt and the country would’ve been in turmoil because of the Kiel mutiny plus soldiers would not want to fight even French ones and another war could just bring in more other countries like Sweden which would just prolong the suffering

[@RozlozIsReal]

This is type of kid who always gor anger issue over losing in game

[@Fishy_Hanz_Boisy]

I don't think Horizon Blue is overrated, i think it's just more of being overhyped as a "Centaura killer" they are different games. Horizon Blue is slow paced and Centaura is fast faced. But they both are hardcore game

[@Hanz-k9m]

It has 100 active players wdym overrated?

[@Fishy_Hanz_Boisy]

​@@Hanz-k9mi am not saying that the game is overrated, i am saying about how the game is overhyped for being "centaura killer"

[@downergamin]

i want this guy to get into huge drama so he quits youtube

[@Nubnubwastaken]

Eh the opportunity is here now though I don’t endorse praying on someone’s downfall

[@Wilson-b2l]

Bro predicted it

[@alexmurchison]

Real prediction

[@Cucumber365]

The prediction is insane

[@Hunsamaa]

Bro had a vision

[@morgueavtomat]

I (was) a tester and trusted member for Artefact Pixel through the Horizon Blue development stage, so yes my views may be/are biased. This is a throwaway account, as I'd rather keep my identity not public. It's been apparent that Horizon Blue was a rushed game through the late development stages, as Lyzrinn had the deadline for summer to meet time convenience for the target audience. Through the early testing stage, before the major tester recruitment wave, was riddled with problems, specifically with poor communication with Lyzrinn, as well as with a problem with the lack of attendees (~26-30 testers, and only 10 attended per test). The lack of communication continued, even after the major test application wave was finished. Most of the testers that applied only did so for the early playtesting, and not to contribute. It's one of the reasons HB doesn't have any limited cosmetics like FK, as it's literally the only thing testers wanted to feed their superiority complex. I'd also like to point out that the artillery and boundary problems stated in the video were not brought up in the feedback channel in the testing server, which may have contributed to the problems related with it on release. Gun balancing wasn't discussed as often, as most of the testers were FK veterans (leading to complaints being more about the testers rather than the guns), and SMGs weren't used until the late stages of testing, so no nerfing was discussed. It was only after time has passed on HBs release that people began to complain about the MP18, and by that time, Lyz had already stopped development on the game, causing it to not be changed. Yes, the game is competitive, and had only just released. I understand how the maps felt like a grinder, however it was going to be changed. No, there was nothing wrong "...when the entire server has been throwing the "it's a new game" card". Every game needs patches/adjustments after release, how long it takes for that game to be enjoyable to a large target audience after those patches takes a while (example being Fo76, taking 2 years of constant patches). Horizon Blue didn't get this patch phase, as development was cut. Lore was handed off to another writer, and not Lyzrinn. Even after it's release, Lyz agreed that the lore had short-sighted points, and didn't agree with it. Regardless, it was quite literally just to satisfy the people who were asking for it. Considering the time between the game's announcement/release and the official posting of the lore, one can assume it was rushed. The poll asking for the lore to be re-written had ended in a 41% vote for "No, the lore is fine as is". My understanding of artillery mechanics is limited, as I've lost the messages Lyz had discussing artillery. However, what I do know is that artillery does have a trigger, which I call "Cover Artillery". Cover Artillery is activated once an objective is in the progress of being taken (by the attacking team's artillery) and once the objective is captured (this artillery is activated by the defensive team, to cover their retreat). You can prevent being killed by Counter Artillery by, once an objective being taken, staying back and waiting for it to end instead of pushing forward. Again, my knowledge on this is limited. The one thing that made me comment after 1 month of this video's release was remembering what Lyz had said to you, "Your lack of any sort of patience or empathy is appaling for, again, a content creator. Driven by anger you shamelessly lash out without even giving us any chances to balance the game in the future. You seem to have no idea how it is to actually make anything on the long run, and how difficult those kind of remarks are, especially when they are unobjective and, again, with 0 tact. The fact that people hate you overall was always surprising to me, I've always felt that you were a genuine chill person. Don't be surprised that you piss everybody off with that kind of perfection-driven standpoint". Despite my respect for you, I have to agree. I apologize for being assuming, but this video felt like beating down a dead game for the harsh, but true, words of Lyzrinn that you disliked to hear. TLDR: Development was rushed, testers wouldn't communicate with developer, after-release patches couldn't be made to fix the game, lore wasn't written properly due to it being rushed, artillery wasn't properly tweaked however still continues to be misunderstood, and this feels like a hate post for what Lyz said to you.

[@FritzTheGerman]

i read the whole thing. ive 100%'d the game and its very cool to hear from a tester. I agree with you on everything.

[@Monarchystler]

ten thousand views and 248 ish likes. yikes. maybe don't make a crappy opinion on a passionately made game?

[@IusedtobeUSA]

Gooner tries to ruin a realistic game because he’s too mentally ill

[@ironsharkz]

so if a game has artillery, it has to be immersive, but it also cant have friendly fire....?

[@bostonstudios1220]

It's the most stupidest thing I've ever heard, obviously artillery is going to have friendly fire, it's a ww1 game, the artillery back then was inaccurate at hitting a certain targets and there were reports of artillery hitting friendly units. Honestly this guy is just complaining about his terrible skill issues and beef with artillery.😂

[@Cutepanda1943]

@@bostonstudios1220 Just because it is relastic does not mean it is good game design.

[@groberkriegproductions]

@@bostonstudios1220 exactly bro 💀 you want me to wait in an ACTUAL TRENCH FOR 6 HOURS TO ATTACK?

[@uhhhprussia]

@@groberkriegproductions bohoo you have to dodge friendly artillrey so hard

[@groberkriegproductions]

@@uhhhprussia when was I talking about artillery? 💀bros putting stuff that I did not say LOL

[@colegilbert673]

Looks like someone has some high, high standards... (Below is subjective.) The massive hate you give to this game seems extremely exaggerated since this game has a LOT of positives. The immersion and quality are incredible compared to similar games, the fun factor is actually improved compared to Karelia and has enough complexity to make it interesting to fight and not too simple as if it was a Call of Duty game, the guns all feel strong enough to kill quickly and the intensity of the game makes it frantic- yes, there are plenty of weapon balancing issues and flaws in the map design but the game does extremely well as a WW1-esque game compared to many others- I would say Centaura performs better in player count because of its simpler gameplay premise but Horizon Blue's more in-depth gameplay is enough to make it superior.

[@AsutoroNami]

"nauseating and painful to play" mfw when he gets put into the frontlines of Verdun in 1915 "the artillery is bad because it has friendly fire" does he know about CIS Mira or does he just stay in one place for a whole round

[@BetaSalvationYT]

If you knew me before I had to move channels, you would realise that the artillery mechanic being painfully unfun to play on Centaura was one of my main criticisms. It's better now, but it was far less fun back then because they had no tracers at the time. People who try to pull in "realism" or "historical accuracy" to justify bad game mechanics is the reason why Horizon Blue: 1919 turned out the way it did.

[@boygarcia7933]

​@@BetaSalvationYTbrother you don't have to be mad to the audience, it's their opinion

[@ruffianraffy]

@@boygarcia7933 isn't this video ALSO an opinion of his own?

[@boygarcia7933]

@@ruffianraffy yes I do accept his opinion too

[@maurology]

@@BetaSalvationYT I agree with this guy on all critisisms he has on Centaura but i cannot defend you here on horizon blue

[@sterm1ous]

i dont think IRL that guns are balanced :/

[@Cutepanda1943]

But realistically Revolvers are worse choices then pistols or rifles.

[@jackmorriss9547]

@@Cutepanda1943 close range no further yes

[@Cutepanda1943]

@@jackmorriss9547 But in this game most combat is close range.

[@Willing_Herold]

You can have a different opinion if you don’t insult the entire community.

[@Bro_the_hell_this_handle_for]

Sweet jesus this guy is such a crybaby. Only major flaws in the game (apart from the fact that it got dropped) were spawn locations (such as defenders not spawning at the objective at the start of the round and then practically spawning ontop of the objective in every other objective), the lack of enough cover from artillery on some maps (not even that major really, just be better, and the lack of maps.

[@Cutepanda1943]

Also it is heavily campy and the artillery often means you just randomly die because of how wide of an area it damages you. This game is ethier camping or being easily overwhelmed or constantly failing to attack.

[@colegilbert673]

@@Cutepanda1943 Camping is barely present in the game because each map atleast grants starting cover to the attackers. Even sacred way.

[@Cutepanda1943]

@@colegilbert673 Just because the attackers have some cover does not mean camping isn’t common.

[@colegilbert673]

@@Cutepanda1943 In my experience of playing the game for a few months I never noticed any camping issues, just poorly coordinated attacks.

[@Paul_maistre]

The game is pretty fun once you get used to it but there are some things that I really want to be fixed. First is I think both nations should have a semi auto and SMG class because France had the ribeyrolles 1918 SMG while Germany also had semi auto rifles like the selbstlader 1906 and 1916. Now before you guys say the ribeyrolles didn’t arrive I think a year is plenty of time to produce and ship the guns to the frontlines. The German mg in my opinion should be an mg15 but I’m guessing this is for balancing reasons since the mg15 has a pretty fast fire rate but once you start leveling up more the game gets a bit boring but the game is new so we just have to wait for what we will get

[@ADcommenter]

You forgot to put the segment where you dig up fake evidence of the main developer being a degenerate, and use that as the entire basis for the negative review

[@FritzVonMoltke]

I completely disagree with your revolver point. Horizon Blue is meant to be a more Hardcore game when it comes to realism (somewhat like Centaura). IRL, almost all bullets either incapacitate or KILL you if they hit, this was the case even with WW1 guns, especially Revolvers. The whole point the the revolver is to be OP in close range and terrible in long range. Every single clip of the revolver you showed was either in Point Blanc or very close range, which will obviously One-Shot.

[@FritzVonMoltke]

E

[@FritzVonMoltke]

For the Maps point: Brother, this is a WORLD WAR ONE GAME. Of course it's gonna be hard to get to the enemy point. Which is why you can't just Rambo your way through, but instead you have to have good TEAMWORK. Whitch is what HB is all about.

[@FritzVonMoltke]

HB is made unique by the fact that to get good in it doesn't just mean to achieve the traditional skills that make you good in FPS games, but it's instead being able to work with/form a good team that's what primarily makes you good. This is what makes HB stand out, whitch you just COMPLETELY ignore.

[@FritzVonMoltke]

This explains why the community is super competitive and strict when it comes to working with one another at times, as having a good team MAKES OR BREAKS a game.

[@FritzVonMoltke]

At 9:36 completely false? It's a fairly decent immersive game that can offer a shit ton of fun if you have a decent team and has several good features. As a reviewer it's completely unprofessional to just gloss over everything in the game and say it has "Nothing going for it" despite it's Decent quality and querks.

[@AustroHungarianEmpire1867]

Now that this video exists, and he's been exposed as a gooner, and very painfully tried to cover it up, we can stop taking this guy's opinions at all.

[@phantomarcadex]

i cant take this guy seriously anymore

[@gamerismrobloxian567gamer5]

Here I thought roasting DW/Centaura was enough but nope, guess he watched Skit's video or smth.

[@Cutepanda1943]

Just accept that horizon blue is a bad game.

[@gamerismrobloxian567gamer5]

@@Cutepanda1943 Bro play it yourself and make your own decision.

[@FritzVonMoltke]

Facts tho

[@deez8202]

@@gamerismrobloxian567gamer5 it was pretty eh the bolt rifles were not so fun at all. And it felt impossible trying to turn the tide when you were on the defensive and the opponents on the offensive.

[@Hanz-k9m]

So u say that rifles dont do enough damage? Dude the rifles in karelia were literally one shot even if u survived the shot u just bleed out and die but with hb it leaves u enough health to patch yourself up and not fucking bleed to death Revolvers arent always good their supposed to be good for close range fights but every single fucking clip u show of the revolver was close range Every map has flanking points

[@vir.v2]

The Artillery Mechanic: you said in your edited comment that its purpose is to annoy people and just have friendly fire but thats plain out wrong. most people usually rush right after a artillery barrage because it creates smoke, sometimes kills enemy troops or makes them move around. its purpose is to keep the game somewhat quick, as it gives mostly the attacking team a chance to advance, and not a trench war stalemate where the defenders can ALWAYS snipe the attackers. it serves a purpose for the round's progress, but its your choice to use it properly or not. The Gunplay: you're complaining that the infantry's rifle is not balanced because it doenst one shot or is better like other guns. you gotta remember that its a simple concept of balancing, not with the guns themselves but the classes: classes that have more players in them (infantry) should naturally have a weaker weapon than a class with limited people (officer), who have a more powerful weapon. 14:38 bullets go through players and their limbs, it is VERY NORMAL for a single bullet to damage one or more of your limbs. 14:41 you were literally aside a grenade. and you were just complaining about infantry rifles not being good, then why are you dying that easily off bleeding from those shots? Obligatory Big Iron Section: only 3 players in a whole team can be officers. although it doesnt make any sense realistically, it makes sense in a balancing sense for them to have a higher damage due to being exclusive to a small class. The Maps: this is cap. the maps have many ways into the points, theres something called "flanking". the game is not fast paced either, its your choice to rush into the point and likely dying, rather than taking it slow and getting there eventually. Campaign Mode: wym a useless feature. its literally just a immersive way of adding a map voting system. its not meant to be a big aspect of the game. (not mentioning the lore because i agree with u. it doesnt make sense. this comment is to talk abt stuff i think you were kinda wrong abt tho)

[@garfieldfan417]

me when i'm in a hating for no reason competition and my opponent is betasalvation

[@polskabalaclava]

Mfw you ignore the fact that he gives actual reasons why he hates the gave even if you don’t agree

[@someaisangaming421]

@@polskabalaclava though he does give reasons, a lot of them are overexaggerated. For example, on his claim that the maps are unbalanced, even though they are a bit off balanced, the effect isn't as bad as he describes. A lot of people are hating on this video because of how harshly he reviews the game. Even though some aspects of the game are unbalanced, it isn't to the point where its a complete letdown. You can have as much fun in this game as all the other war games.

[@polskabalaclava]

@ maybe his experience with the game was that unenjoyable that he ended exaggerating things

[@DefinitelySpirit]

"its not thst useful, atleast i think so" lmfao this is so funny to me. Imagine making a review and not actually using your critical thinking in the video💀 No hate, but this review is basically unanimously agreed to be kinda bad and a lesson to never repeat

[@randomguyontheinternet374]

This video feels like his just cherry picking at this point

[@URAQT-t3n]

i counted 61 sins that i made.

[@tempest8882]

The lore makes little sense historically. By the end of the war, the entente naval blocakde of Germany was essentially starving the German populace, and had the war gone on for longer, a civil war would have likely occured. Not to mention the fact that Germany's army would've likely completely collapsed. After the war, Germany was completely shattered, and support for the monarchy was extremely low after he abdicated (The only ones who really supported it was the army), so the Kaiser returning to Germany would be extremely unpopular with the German people, even more so if he decided to declare war on France after millions of young lives were needlessly thrown away.

[@robowisanveithasung6022]

Read the lore in the server. It’s not good nor is it realistic (even the head dev lyz) disagreed

[@gabrielproman9377]

In my opinion, the lore would have maked more sense if it was a scenario where somehow Germany manages to stand to January-February, where the Entente enacts and makes 'Plan 1919', with interesting battles around Metz, Second Battle of Liege, Vosges Offensive, but who knows, I am not sure if this would have maked it better but, just a point of view.

[@tempest8882]

@@gabrielproman9377 I feel like at that point germany would've suffered a total army collapse like they did in the final year of ww2

[@gabrielproman9377]

@@tempest8882 Not gonna lie, yeah, to make things a little bit better to the germans to make this scenario possible, I think some changes to History can be made such as: "Sweden, Luxburg Scandal"; The message sended from German Ambassador of Argentina 'Karl Von Luxburg' to don't be intercepted so Sweden can still provide needed materials and food to Germany (Because Germany was using Telegraph Lines from Sweden) and probably Germany being a little bit more permissive to Sweden, so they could trade with the Entente so by that, Entente could probably (I am not sure) let Sweden do hes trade and not blockade him. Also probably taking food from Ukranian Fields could be another change. I am not sure if THIS would be at historical possibilities alt standards but, just an idea.

[@Man_Aslume]

It sounds like a train wreck that I'm scratching my head

[@GutsandBlackpowderSweat]

The best part of every BetaSalvation review is the outro. Fight me.

[@courier_Wwwghfvhf]

thats the only good part of his vids.

[@Millkshake59]

Probably because it means it’s over

[@theaverageonefr]

@@Millkshake59 Bro's speaking fax fr

[@kool27]

Could you make at least one positive review? Your reviews just criticize.

[@EtienneMorin-ot1hr]

I mean he liked Karelia! He’s therefore good in my book for eternity!😊

[@krysocz4250]

If you want to make constructive criticism, dont insult the entire community with the title

[@Cutepanda1943]

So apparently calling a game bad is somehow wrong.

[@phantomarcadex]

@@Cutepanda1943 This is a textbox stickman argument fallacy. Where are you getting this? He did NOT at all say that calling a game bad is wrong. He said to not insult the entire community with the title.

[@Cutepanda1943]

@@phantomarcadex First of all I think you made up the fallacy. The game is literally overrated. Most videos on KZbin say it is good. And calling a Roblox game garbage is just saying the game is bad.

[@FritzVonMoltke]

Overrated in your opinion. Almost ALL of the points Beta brought up were just ones the seemed to be out of personal preference, which is not a valid reason to go out and call a game "Garbage" and then proceed to continually insult it and it's community.

[@phantomarcadex]

@@Cutepanda1943 Search up what a stickman argument fallacy is. Most videos throughly reviewed the game fairly instead of just shitting on it because of his personal preference. For example, the revolver point is EXTREMELY FLAWED. Nearly every clip he shows during that is the revolver being fired into the head or being point blank and calling it overpowered. Then he immediately contradicts himself by saying it takes 4-5 shots to kill them without firing through the head.

[@barnowlfrombritain]

the only complaint I have is FIX THE SPADES, ARTIFACT

[@DKaNe714]

never make another game review 😭

[@polskabalaclava]

Too bad

[@valiimper2609]

We could've had wack lore when the KPD starts rebelling and starts a revolution.

[@FireeAtWill]

I agree with a couple of your points but Its harsh videos like this that contribute to the guy ending development to all his games

[@SchützenGewehr]

Overrated? The game doesn't even have over 1k players

[@MissingSpy0]

300 players on a good day bro

[@friendly_sniper]

Beta biting the curb when

[@Lettucelover1904]

this might be the WORST ragebait ever

[@Plienat]

😂😂😂😂

[@Cutepanda1943]

Apparantly if someone dislikes this game. They are rage baiting. Can you accept that your game is actually not good.

[@Lettucelover1904]

@@Cutepanda1943 please hop off the meat

[@MurathanSaipKays]

@@Cutepanda1943 Can all of us agree opinions agree?

[@The_miracle0_0]

​@@Cutepanda1943the game is good bro, we have a diference between "i dont like this game so much' and "this game is bad bro", in one, you dont like the game and is your opnion, the game can be good for other people, but for you, you dont like the game so much. And "this game is bad bro" you are saying that the game is a bad game with no quality, but, this game have quality, have a nice story, have a good imersion, have good maps, just dont have a good gameplay for you bro

[@yogurt437DE]

im ngl but centaura is way more overrated than horizon blue. like centaura is good but there is like way better war games on roblox

[@Promax_bro]

You don't even make sense

[@Pyro3009]

I mean the game tried to be realistic, any artillery would kill you in the war

[@Hanz1918Czechie-rl3fo]

Also, You are Complaining about that the arty has friendly fire that's how arty works you might get hit or the enemy might arty is not very accurate plus the game is meant to be hard and while a revolver from a far does not much damage but up close your dead for sure or at least screaming while bleeding out also the game is supposed to be hell it's shows how war is chaotic and how friendly fire is common to the point that part of deaths are caused by friendly fire

[@Karelia-hn3ti]

who’s the keyboard warrior going in everyone’s comments and hating on the game with his life lmao

[@colegilbert673]

The guy is "Cutepanda" or something, more like furiousModifiedBear

[@emmanaboyme]

Bruh no actual way this is your opinion on this game💀💀💀

[@oldgeezer6716]

your comments about game mechanics apparently being copied from another milsim type game are stupid. suppression, stamina bars are incredibly common in the genre. rising storm 2, red orchestra 2 operates off much the same systems.

[@BluenationJuggernaut]

"Its because the artillery has friendly fire" oh so you think that in real life when a artillery shell hits a friendly soldier. Does it kill them? Yes? Well thats what i thought, artillery guns back in both ww1 and 2 we're inaccurate back then. Meaning it would kill most enemy soldiers and friendly soldiers if they we're not careful about they're surroundings. And your saying my team's artilleries cannot have friendly fire? Then how the hell is the game's artillery mechanics supposed to make sense? If artillery guns had friendly fire then that would make sense, since like i said again in ww1. Artillery guns might kill most friendly soldiers. If i make and mistakes or get the wrong information. Then im sorry, I apologies.

[@Paul_maistre]

Ok did you even play the dam game. Also you can’t just do a review on it because it’s a very new game and for Roblox it’s pretty good athough the gun play is a bit weird it’s still good. But I would wish France had an SMG class since France did have smgs in WW1 like the ribeyrolles 1918 but the game is actually pretty fun once you get used to it but like still it’s not a bad game

[@chunguruno]

buddy makes roblox games reviews

[@Saakija]

The analysis wasn't that bad... THE FUCK TITLE IS RAGEBAIT DAWG 💀 I am on board with the artillery being ass, I think its just a leftover from Karelia's artillery system where the signaller could call in mortar strikes and smoke, but if you aim it horribly (well this isn't up to you, the artillery is almost never accurate and the artillery range for the teams are different) you can do friendly fire, and YOU are punished for it by losing I believe 12 points of XP per kill. Though yes it is a annoying part of the game, at least in Karelia you can aim it, but however in Horizon Blue YOU CAN'T... Guns however, the rifles I definitely do feel are underpowered and yes they are intended this way, what killed Karelia was the gunplay: Rifles were almost always one shot, and for new players it was unfun and difficult to get into especially when you're unfamiliar with maps and ways to properly push.. And holy shit the fucking bleed yeah its complete ass, if it hits one body part, IT HITS ONE BODY PART.. EVEN KARELIA IS MORE GENEROUS... Some people might say this is a horrible choice just for the sake of balancing, but c'mon we don't want another Karelia situation where the entire playerbase just fucking dies in the span of a few months... The pistols have always been pretty powerful even back in Karelia, hell if you're good enough at sniping (like me) you could get over 40 kills defending from how absurdly little the bullet drop is and the almost no damage reduction from increased range.. Speaking of damage reduction over range... Fucking kill me.. We're using rifles why is the damage reduction over distance for rifles so terrible? As for the revolver, they should've done what Karelia did, add a startup for the revolver that lasts around half a second before the revolver shoots. On the maps... Yeah they removed almost every map like that (Viipuri, Belostroov are removed, and the only good map with optimal flanking routes is probably Svir which hasn't been updated in over a year) except for Mannerheim and Kuuter, but even then on Mannerheim almost noone goes to the flanks and even when they do, it takes a long ass time. Kuuter however.. You're basically forced to push into a area with little to no cover, and the only cover being a town that is in the sights of the enemy constantly.. For any of you fools saying "what about Hokki?" Just play through the map and the bridge section, you will understand. The game came out at a horrible time, it wasn't exactly made to bank off the growing Roblox audience, for example, Karelia's gun system was apparently made all the way back in 2018, but is still considered one of the best in my opinion because there isn't anything else to top it, not even ACS, not to mention for a while now Artefact Pixel has been holding onto a thread with 2 developers that being Lyzrinn and McGee so development is incredibly slow.

[@robowisanveithasung6022]

"Artefact Pixel has been holding onto a thread with 2 developers that being Lyzrinn and McGee so development is incredibly slow." its cancelled

[@Saakija]

@@robowisanveithasung6022 I was more referring to the time it takes for them to make their games and create the, HB and Karelia has been in development for way longer than you think.. Also its not exactly cancelled, Lyzrinn and left the roadmaps and assests all for McGee, not to mention the April Fools guy who pulls off the funny shit all by himself. McGee is doing something very soon, its confirmed

[@robowisanveithasung6022]

@@Saakija ah fair, i get waht you mean also yes, i've heard about McGee's project, but i'm pretty she'll be doing something that isn't really WW2 or multiplayer like

[@josefino54josefino.43]

beta can you shake it.

[@BallsngI]

HUH

[@BetaSalvationYT]

If I could post that one Thanos GIF right here I would

[@Kentesh_1]

Its a realistic game not meant to be balanced any gun can be OVERPOWERED meaning ONE SHOT because its, lrt me get this simple, R E A L I S T I C.

[@polskabalaclava]

Realistic doesn’t make it fun, besides, if the game isn’t fun, why play it?

[@Kentesh_1]

@polskabalaclava some fellas like realistic games

[@polskabalaclava]

@@Kentesh_1 didn’t know people like torturing themselves with those type of games but ok, not a genre for everyone I guess

[@Your_Aussie_Aydin]

​@@polskabalaclava have you ever played arma 3 before. Peak arma gameplay is driving for 90 minutes to only hit an IED to repeat all over again. 10/10 would do again

[@_Sundance_]

The dirty bubble

[@centralhunter9169]

Centaura is not a WW1 game, read the lore and look at the technology level for all the updates and campaigns in Centaura.

[@lehongamy5660]

This man probably made this review cause he sucks at the game

[@MyHandleIsOfMany]

Pretty sure this guys entire channel is just pure rage baiting, he’s hating on comments expressing a opinion, just because he thinks his is right, which it is not.

[@polskabalaclava]

Nah he’s definitely serious, he did recently make a video about airship wars and it’s a lot more positive (still has criticism of certain things)

[@polishpotatoman]

as a Frontline Karelia player, I've honestly got to agree with you on most things you're saying I also played Horizon Blue on release, and in addition to the artillery that you mentioned, the lag was unbearable, especially for the east asian servers I was using. The gameplay was sub-par and extremely boring in my opinion compared to karelia, quite honestly even worse than Mannerheim, that you mentioned before. Karelia's maps, especially the larger ones, encourage flanking, but there is none of that in Horizon Blue, and admittedly, most Roblox ww1 games, for reasons I have no idea for, apart from to show the especially grim nature of the great war. Although I did defend the lore back in release, but I've changed my opinions on them, especially after the lore writer, nor either devs, tried to rewrite parts of, or the entire lore so far, months after release. It most defineately is a good idea, and Lyzrinn, in my opinion was too eager to get it out to the general audience that he rushed the game in general, though I do understand how much strain was put on him, especially from a financial standpoint, as Lyzrinn was running out of funds. The response to the release of Horizon Blue was suprisingly positive in the Artefact Pixel discord server, and from what I can see, most of the people critisizing the game were after the lore or the lag, or sadly Lyzrinn himself (which in my opinion he didn't deserve most of it) instead of the actual gameplay, though I have seen some complaints about balancing turned into jokes by some of the Moderators. Quite frankly many of the members of Artefact Pixel are blindly following Lyzrinn, especially since Karelia's secondary developer, McGee retied and the style of the game (karelia) changed, in my opinion for the worse. Lyzrinn has been whining about facing negativety from his community about some of the more recent styling changes to Karelia and Horizon Blue in general, which I do understand is not fun at all, but making that one of the reasons he quit, most likely to guilt trip people who have complained in the past is not the way to respond to ciritisizm, especially for a grown person. I need to learn to write shorter messages

[@H.E.C.U_amugos]

"i like horizon blue and i. Hate it" -me

[@ABrainlessBrit]

Horizon blue is definitely not god awful. It is great and is comparible to Centaura. It is emersive and fun to play, and besides, what are you gonna play, Trench War? 😂

[@EtienneMorin-ot1hr]

My first reaction when I looked at the comments was to not watch the video and leave a dislike. But I didn’t, and I watched it until the end. I can (as I’m sure you can too) relate to a lot of the points said in this video. The narrowness of the maps, the annoying artillery, the feeling of underpowered bolt action rifles, the chauchat having tremendous recoil (I know I know, I need to get good…). I never read the lore and would like to read it. Where can I find it? Overall, I appreciated the game and I think it has a lot of potential: -The guns are wonderfully modelled (come on! The Berthier and Lebel are beautiful). -The uniforms are well designed. -The campaign aspect is really fun on a competitive side (we got into a server with 13 of my friends and had a darn good time).😊

[@Tester1-b6b]

Blud cant even be on realism

[@polskabalaclava]

Kid thinks saying blud every sentence makes him cool, and I thought zoomer slang was cringey

[@Kentesh_1]

​@@polskabalaclavacompletely unnecessary

[@polskabalaclava]

@@Kentesh_1 what’s unnecessary

[@Glow_work]

This game is honestly one of if not my favourite game in roblox, maybe bc I’m just good or smth

[@TasEnthusiast]

I love how everything that you "criticize" is met with undoubtful hate. And i honestly think you deserve it, after all of the badly made videos you've created.

[@kordvoitles]

Try playing with both of your hands

[@終末大隊の漢斯]

Br don't realize that MG can set on sand bags or window if you Crouch behind them,then the recoil will reduce I would said this game is bit same mechanic as Verdun,Izonso and Tannenburg,ngl. This game need more time to play,ofc

[@milokovacs1889]

Hey guys… are you guys having a sense of de ja vu? I think have because of one particular video on centaura…

[@EthanZapata-i6z]

Personally i love Horison Blue but i can agree with some of his points

[@GrayGun12]

Fact: Horizon Blue is discontinued. The developer quit.

[@Console_01]

They didnt have any money to fund it sadly;(

[@usarrook]

yo dude you should make a video about how the developer is also a groomer in this game like you did with decaying winter and take even more chats out of context to an abhorred level and just lie that would be hilarious hahahahahaha get it because you did that by taking archeximus's chats out of context and lying about it hahahaha and clickbaiting it hahahaha hilarious right

[@終末大隊の漢斯]

Ah.....i watched your video, I'm respect and understand how you're too much hate this game Rifleman is so hard ...

[@renzojose-uc8tb]

Horizon Blue: 1919 is inspired by Red Orchestra and Rising Storm 2, which are shooters that focus on realism while incorporating some arcade gameplay. The reason you don’t like the game is basically because you are bad no offense meant. Being frustrated just because it’s a challenging game doesn’t mean it’s bad. You didn’t enjoy it because you couldn’t understand the controls and the main idea of the game. You were upset because you didn’t like the realistic artillery mechanics. You were frustrated because the gameplay was intentionally painful to make it hard,the reason why its difficult to play is becus its punishing players for rushing into the enemy. I respect your channel and understand that hardcore FPS games are not for everyone, but criticizing the community and the game simply because it’s difficult is not fair.

[@BetaSalvationYT]

I was top scoring in every single match I was playing. The "realistic" artillery mechanic would only work if the developers had committed to full friendly fire than instead trying to cut it short with only applying friendly fire to artillery specifically. The fact that you think it's not fair I criticise the game is ridiculous since you're among the sea of people who refuse to even acknowledge how garbage the artillery mechanic was that they had to nerf it *twice*.

[@renzojose-uc8tb]

@@BetaSalvationYT sorry if i offended you but for me the artillery is fine it is supposed to be realistic and i dont see problems whit the frendly fire becus its tecnicaly historacly acurate even whit the game being in other universe we can see most of the elements of ww1 in it and most of the causes of death in ww1 where by arty both friendly and enemie i think thats what the game is trying to say and i dint said you could not critize a game i just said you could not just be mad at it for it being dificult i am realy sorry if i offended you but in my opnion the game is good.

[@Tylerjamar-reborn8447]

⁠@@BetaSalvationYTbuddy, artillery doesn’t has friendly fire. In ww1 an artillery probably hit a teammate. Just accept your skill issue

[@MyHandleIsOfMany]

@@BetaSalvationYTbuddy wasn’t even arguing with you, he even said he meant nothing by his opinion and you STILL trash on him?? Rage baiting for sureeee bro😂😂

[@sergeykin64]

At my opinion: Revolver should be somewhat powerfully at close ranges but, since it's a WW1 where's most of the battles comes at close-quarter ranges: It makes revolver too powerfully, specially if we take the fact rifle usually doesn't kill you into body for some reason (because yes ). About map: There is flanks - they're just not so usefully because they're either too open so enemy notice you or either you're all alone since your team doesn't care so you can't do much. Third person is just bad at my opinion for shooters specially for tactical, competive or where's most all weapons kills you from 1-2 shots. It just makes not fun to play because enemy would just constantly camping behind covers or around corners, specially with the full or semi-automatic weapons. Plus take the fact it's Roblox where's you usually can get only 100 ms (at least by my experience) - makes this more unfun since enemy usually shots you before even peek out at your screen and you cannot make a shot. Even if you hit enemy they would usually headshot you or something like this. Artillery is okay - you just had to listen the sounds and if you see artillery shells flies at your position: Run from place it hits or either find a cover. Yet it doesn't mean you survive and you're not always can see or hear the artillery strike - it just happens. But yes, the places they hit is weird - in a sacred way at convoy depot: They shot right at covers (french artillery) that is facing to germans which makes it too risky to use it for french at defense. Also i would mention other problems at my opinion yet it's a Alpha but, i feel it's kinda worse than Karelia: 1.Defenders spawn at the same time as attacker's so they got not so much time to prepare the defense of the first point and it's specially noticeable at first point of france at Sacred Way, germany just reach to the point early than French which is ridiculous and doesn't makes since who leaves the first lane of defense unguarded??? 2. Sapper TNT is quite 50/50 - it's okay at defense if used properly (and if you don't die) you can get 1-5+ kills with it, but in offense it's less effective. So basically sapper is just a man with the more weight but, with the revolver (if they had it also german sappers doesn't have bayonet for the rifle at second and last kit). It's sad they didn't add ability to build something like in Karelia. 3. Officer aura buff to suppression at my opinion is - doesn't do much. If it would make you immune somewhat to flicking shots or explosion screen shake effects they would be more usefully so there's was more motivation for teammates to stay nearby to them rather just having charge buff. 4. SMG shouldn't be able to one shot you into head at ANY CASES and just because it's a rank 8+ weapon doesn't explain the reason to make it into a death beam gun that deletes you by hitting you ONCE or two times.

[@Skippymcdippy20]

Cant take this shit seriously anymore Hes just cherrypicking at this point Its a hardcore game, go play cod if you cant handle it

[@Somerandomguy-kl8rh]

OH COME ON, HARDLY "GOD AWFUL" MAN! C'mon! You can do better!

[@Hanz1918Czechie-rl3fo]

The game is not overrated look at entrenched or Cantura plus the game is better than all WW1 Roblox games

[@Man_Aslume]

Centura is alright The Artillery is fine but one time it was just a rain of Artillery fire

[@Hanz1918Czechie-rl3fo]

@@Man_Aslume i agree but Centura is overrated that's why i was just give examples of games

[@Madaseter]

Please don't even let him come near entrenched 🙏🏻🙏🏻😭😭

[@thangteakawilam2709]

The game is in alpha so there is some flaws

[@boltMVP]

skill issue

[@EleanorDelosReyes]

I completely Disagree it Hadnt Even Turned 1 Year Old And Now Your Thinking Its Bad😐

[@CorporalCardiolog]

CAUGHT WHITE-HANDED

[@Pancakenaut]

About the artillery section: It is surprising coming from someone that went apeshit over shellshock not having realistic guns, anyways. OF COURSE ARTILLERY CAUSED FRIENDLY FIRE!!! IT WAS COMMON, ARTILLERY WAS INACCURATE AND THE CREW HAD NO IDEA IF THEY HIT THE ENEMY OR THEIR BUDDIES!! Just because you're wearing the same uniform as the people firing the shells, it won't stop the same shells from hitting you, simple as that. Also, if artillery doesn't let you shoot, just wait it out lmao. Have patience, haste is the enemy of perfection after all. I know, some stuff can be annoying, but god dang, don't be a crybaby over it. Accept it and it hurts less, if you die from an artillery shell. Just respawn 💀 it ain't over just because you died once. You will die multiple times in these types of games, that's fine, no one is perfect, you don't need a perfect KDR at the end of the round to enjoy it. If you get more deaths than kills, it's fine. No one is perfect.

[@Bogdanovici-real]

This game had a lot of potential and could become a good immersive game, but the dev quit. Clearly the devs didnt like their game

[@robowisanveithasung6022]

Even though he made horizon blue as a tribute to his French ancestors, I’m not surprised if he didn’t like his game

[@JohnDinkleHighmer]

He stopped working on the game because he was struggling financial, not because he hated the game

[@Jerrysimp3344]

Ah man.....

[@SomeMercenary228]

why is your pfp everywhere

[@ChaozGh0ul]

The level of skill issue alerts im getting from this video. Two words: "Get good"

[@AquilanCivilGuard]

Cool game and idea but was executed horribly and could have been made great with fixes but dev decided to quit and now it's discontinued fully wasted potential

[@picpixe]

Im rank 16 french major. L bro sold Ruby goes brrrrrr😂😂😂😂😂

[@JustRegular28898]

They gotta fix mobile controls bro

[@nex865]

Beta why not repost the centaur video

[@Cutepanda1943]

The review was pretty bad.

[@Man_Aslume]

More maybe the guts and blackpowder one cuz that was the only video where true peace was reached

[@slump8864]

this video is buns bruh 😭😭😭

[@yaynope-l9b]

stop talking never talk ever again please...................................

[@miodragjr]

when are we getting "underrated and smelly feet | plants vs. zombies" (dont forget to include another upskirt clip)

[@cebollin3802yui]

i tought the games was alright

[@Man_Aslume]

I gotta go check the game out If I don't like it, then I'll be crucified by everyone here for not having the same opinion If I like it then I dunno what to do

[@michelefabbro4086]

It is

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

*Beta has a negative opinion* The hater sleeper agents:

[@Man_Aslume]

The only time i saw true peace in a beta comment section was the guts and blackpowder video

[@spinolover124]

Bro, go back to entrenched if the artillery bothers you so much.

[@hiddensmith1]

Before I seen that vid I didn't know that game haved lore

[@realdragao6367]

rage baiter turns out to be a gooner oh no, i'm so surprised

[@platinumplasma98]

I played like once, then stopped lmao.

[@Man_Aslume]

I didn't know the game existed Probably because my internet went out so I was busy with that

[@Genguman7430]

This video reeks of skill issue

[@Man_Aslume]

My PC when artillery comes is gonna be more dead that it won't even see the end of war

[@NAFA3000]

oh hell no i aint l aint listening to allat

[@polskabalaclava]

Ok, I fail to see why you care to bring that up

[@kromenome3866]

Your voice feels so... Familiar. It feels the same to that one guy who made videos about Titanfall 2

[@Man_Aslume]

Do you remember who they are

[@Inazio1311]

Bro did not cook with this one, but funny video btw.

[@scorchedhorizons4300]

Its been over a month and I don't expect you to view this comment but I can genuinely relate to the almost comical firearm balancing that Horizon Blue presents. Although not much of a player of Roblox games, I frequent a series of games that serve to fit a similar niche as Horizon Blue created by BlackMill Games or M2H Studios with their games Verdun, Tannenberg and Isonzo. The titles in which are known to be more arcade-like in their treatment of the Great War. Balancing wise, it seems so remarkably unreasonable to have such a variety in damage values across the board, however reserve to have the consistencies of rifle chamberings and the sort. For example, the M1886 Lebel does what I believe to see in the video is 88~ish damage to the torso. The M1915 Chauchat provides the exact same damage as the M1886 Lebel given both the Lebel and the Chauchat are chambered in the same cartridge (8x50mmR Lebel) however the unreasonableness brews from the absolute neck-breakingly massive stopping power that the revolver in the game provides compared to full length rifles and HMGs. In all of BlackMill Games' entries into the genre of the Great War; Bolt action rifles, single action revolvers and early age stationary and handheld MGs chambered in rifle cartridges were established as one shot kills to the torso and head with limbs being hit damaging a large chunk of the victim's health along with applying bleed granting a more reasonable, balanced but slower paced playing style. Coupled with the fact that bayonets on the ends of rifles, knives and swords were also known to one shot but required precision to land a strike with the punishment of missing leading to slowed movement and a slow cooldown to attack again meant that melee was a gamble depending on the target along with their armament. To see such confusing balancing makes practically no sense given that the officer is serves to be an absolute power house on the battle field compared to other roles. Riflemen were most obviously the most common "type" (with the largest grain of salt) of soldier on the battlefield making the role so much more important on the battlefield. To have such a role be so extraordinarily weak against Officers who don't even bother to have a knife in or sword in their off hand makes both firing at an officer and melee-ing the officer a futile task of retaliation against an unstoppable, poorly balanced and over powered class.

[@bruh_moment2833]

Literally don’t know what these guys are talking about. I agree with all your points. Game tries to be realistic but also tries to be an arcade shooter but takes the negative aspects from both sides. It’s so hard to have fun in this game that I just quit.