A Shameful, Forgotten Wreck - the SS INDIAN (1859)

[@jaynorris3722]

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[@PartTimeExplorer]

Thank you, and Big Old Boats is great!

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[@AlanVerner]

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[@michaelimbesi2314]

Given how the people on shore behaved, I can see why perhaps the local Nova Scotian historians might be less inclined to talk much about this particular wreck. That may explain some of the relative dearth of scholarship on this one.

[@mako88sb]

It’s not just Nova Scotia though. I checked out the wiki article about Allan Shipping Line wiki site and although some of their ships that sank can be clicked on for information, the SS Indian isn’t one of them. Most of those listed aren’t clickable for more information so not sure if these ones were sold for scrap eventually?

[@gaiusjulius_caesar2059]

Of course it is !!!

[@zombieshoot4318]

It’s more likely that it just wasn’t important. Ships sank all the time. Few ships from that time that have sunk are known. You’d really have to have someone write a book about it for it to be remembered. Or something else would have to happen for it to stick in public memory.

[@gaiusjulius_caesar2059]

@zombieshoot4318 I do agree on principle, however... The town was aware of the sinking... For the other ships commercially, of course... When they don't make port are reported "lost at sea".... In sum, I believe Winston Churchill said it best “Defeat is one thing; disgrace is another.”

[@levitatingoctahedron922]

same reason you rarely hear about the scorched earth tactics, firebombing, and results of supply line bombing from the allies in WWII. many, many millions of civilians.

[@JamesSullivan-ru4op]

"Not that bad." - The captain was correct. Given the circumstances, the losses were much fewer than could have been. It may not be the best way to express it, but it's a fair assessment none the less.

[@DoctorWortspieler]

True. Especially after learning about how none of the women and children survived the Atlantic and the Clallam, I was expecting to see the same thing happen with the Indian here when all the women and children were put in that one lifeboat, so it was a huge relief to me that they managed to survive.

[@susicolin5076]

I lately saw a documentary of Prince Eugene, the brilliant general fighting for Austria against the Ottomans in the decades before and after 1700. The historians combing through his and the contemporary generals' personal letters noticed that none of them mentioned the tens of thousands of soldiers who died, were crippled, or wounded showing the slightest hint of empathy. It reminded me of a colonel of the Marines who referred to his soldiers as materiél, and I told him that I did not want my son regarded in this way. Now I am thinking, It may be an attitude shared by other leaders such as captains as well. As a mother it breaks my heart.

[@RyanMartinezUkulelelessons]

Captain was a grim title. Living through these wrecks was a privilege.

[@GiordanDiodato]

especially compared to the Hungarian and Atlantic.

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YT only cares about NBC Jimmy Fallon and all that bullshit.

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@@danieltallon5087 Fr, they didn't remove dislikes for us! Whatever tho, I take solace in our collective disgust

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@@danieltallon5087don’t forget, they gotta protect their cash cow kid channels like Mr beast and the Paul brothers!

[@apancher]

Tom, you just might be the best history teacher out there. This is coming from someone with a degree in history, and a fascination with shipwrecks.

[@codehaunta9878]

I agree. Also in recommendation is Oceanliner Designs!

[@Deanothefordtech]

I agree. I taught 7thgrade history for awhile, it's tough to get kids interested in history

[@charlieweir4060]

Very nice to see a shipwreck that doesn't even have a wikipedia. Good those lost haven't been fully forgotten under the waves of history

[@CaptainLicorice]

As a Nova Scotian thank you for sharing about what we may not to remember. But we need to remember

[@markthomas4083]

I can’t imagine how much rage I would feel as the captain or anyone else in the Indian. Feeling deserted by the ships that floated 300 yards away without helping. The narration is always a five star rating. This channel is so inspiring. Thank you.

[@halleyangel1706]

I'm guessing it's out of both guilt, and shame that people of Nova Scotia don't speak of this one. At least that's what it's seeming, though I am relieved you are speaking of this wreck so it is not forgotten.

[@fokkerd3red618]

I doubt that. 165 years have passed. That's a long time.

[@OnionChoppingNinja]

@@fokkerd3red618 True that. (apologies if this comment comes across as rambling) The SS Indian wasn't all that special in the grand scheme of things. She wasn't the fastest biggest most luxurious or most revolutionary of her time. People who aren't Maritime enthusiast like us tend not to remember those ships. Heck few people can even name even a single ocean liner that isn't Titanic. She wasn't like other noteworthy ships that met a tragic faith on those shores, like the ill faithed SS Atlantic a couple of decades later for example. She was just another ship, one of many on the Atlantic in her day. When all is said and done, the SS Indian was just another ship that met a terrible faith on a notoriously treacherous stretch of coast like many that came before or since. An awful tragedy make no mistake, but not one you should expect people to remember and commemorate for a century and a half.

[@thoughtlessroamer]

Imagine being one of the Indian crew members, seeing this video being made from heaven, seeing the wreck called “shameful” and just being like “damn, they haven’t forgotten about that yet” Keep up the good work man!

[@richardbeee]

Almost reminded me of the stories of the ones who lit fires to bring ships to their rocky shores to wreck and then loot.😢 great work!

[@pirateshack9315]

i think one name was 'moon cussers', i'm guessing that if the moon was bright enough a ship could see land possibly hindering the intent of the evil ones on shore

[@Rando_Shyte]

That sounds piraty af and I approve

[@MrTumbleweed22]

They used to do that in West country, uk in.the days of sail. They'd light fires or stand on the cliffs and shine a light to confuse a ships crew thus luring them onto the rocks

[@stanislavkostarnov2157]

@@MrTumbleweed22 more like in the days before reliable navigation... these were mostly very isolated and deprived communities, often, communities dominated by a local ethnic minority (the career options for whom were very limited)... it is under these circumstances of poverty and depravation mixed with the lawlessness of the fact these villages were near unreachable from any seat of power, that wrecking and more traditional forms of piracy grew to flourish. of the fictional books on the topic I remember "The Wreckers" but their were a few since the mix of the rugged dramatic coast demonic weather and a strange alien culture made many writers of the early century tend to romanticize the events in stories ghostly or otherwise... in more recent years (but before the events really blew up), for many of thesame reasons, I have seen a romanization of the stories of the Mujahedeen and the Houthi... a very writable architype of a complex evil that literature likes to explore, set in a picturesque setting.

[@meetoo594]

@@MrTumbleweed22 They would also kill any survivors who made it to shore to make sure no one reported the looting to the authorities.

[@Rectore-sw5kk]

Babe wake up, Part Time Explorer just dropped a new shipwreck vid!

[@Gregm-l9r]

Thank you for bringing the tragic story of the SS Indian back to life Tom. It's sad to hear about the ship being looted while many of the passengers were still alive . Very well done and professional, Tom .

[@Cushie-im7of]

I'm a Nova Scotian and I've never heard of this. Thank you for such a great video!!!

[@johnsamuels6368]

It's fake news. White people never plunder.

[@Thej611]

It seems there were a lot of wrecks from this period that have been forgotten! Thank you for giving these wrecks the time they deserve

[@thomashall6888]

You are very respectful of the ones who suffered because of these accidents. You're an excellent reporter.

[@russellrlf]

Why did it take me so long to find this amazing channel? Damn good video! Remember when the History Channel had actual history based shows? Well this video would have been on the network back then.

[@Burninhellscrootoob]

Beautiful CGI on this!❤ Kudos!

[@mikem.s.1183]

Brick Immortar, Mike Brady's channel and yours greatly make KZbin still worth it. I have said before, phenomenal content. 🙏

[@mhoppy6639]

I like the element of the story which covers the pick up of the lifeboat which drifted out to sea. A heartwarming little coda to a pretty horrifying tale. Thank you for yet another evocative telling of a story about the sea.

[@soiouz]

Absolutely fascinating, once again! Thank you for digging out these forgotten stories, and bringing them back to light!

[@drkskyes]

Your graphics are absolutely fantastic! It adds so much to your story. Thanks for sharing.

[@DevilSurvivor69]

I'm not a Nova Scotia native, but I been here in Halifax for about 6 years and it's always exciting to hear stories like this. It's really disturbing to hear the people didn't do anything to help the victims of the SS Indian. I find Nova Scotians to be a friendly lot. My daugther was born here and I always feel welcome.

[@RLC2020]

you are cranking these out lately. Probably time to change the channel name to Full-Time Explorer. Excellent work!

[@vodnikdubs1724]

“The year was 1778, How I wish I was in Sherbrooke now When a letter of marque came from the king, for the scummiest vessel I’d ever seen! God damn them all, I was told we’d cruise the seas for American gold, we’d fire no gun, shed no tear… Now I’m a broken man on a Halifax pier, the last of Barrett’s privateers”

[@David-s3g6o]

I heard this song so much that I gave up on it.😮

[@Styphon]

I used to sing this in the pubs all the time. It's a good thing there was so much booze flowing, no one seemed to mind my horrible singing 🤣

[@Chris-vk2zw]

Great work, Tom! It's haunting to see how these stories have been lost to time as if they never existed, but through the animations, one could see it was a traumatic experience for everyone on board.

[@youdontneedtoknow106]

Is it weird that i fear the ocean but love the stories of shipwrecks?

[@XanderNotZander]

like a morbid fascination, nothing wrong with that

[@CPorter]

Not at all.

[@MrSirlulzalot]

Not weird, I hope as it is the same here with me. I'm curious though, do you also like true crime stories? ❤

[@decnet100]

I guess maybe your fascination with shipwrecks contributed to your fear of the ocean?

[@youdontneedtoknow106]

@@decnet100 Or its all the nightmares i had as a kid lolz

[@Amory98]

Please read, it'd mean a lot. Just to give you an idea about how far your work reaches, I typing this comment, seated at my home in a small town Nawalgarh, in Rajasthan state of India. Perhaps no one for hundreds of miles around me would know of all this, but thanks to you, I do. I'm in love with the sombre meritime history, it somehow makes us better beings, I feel. I'm still at your Hungarian video so wouldn't be able to comment on the Indian one, but a big appreciator of yours. Would be waiting eagerly for the april Titanic anniversary live stream. Love to hear you, Jay Kent and Ken all together. Happiness and good vibes mate, much love.❤

[@PartTimeExplorer]

Thanks so much for the kind words, I appreciate your support!

[@stanislavkostarnov2157]

started watching when I was living in Japan, today, I am in Israel... still watching!

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I'm watching from Johannesburg , South Africa.

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Watching from Japan!

[@Miakel]

Watching from Australia 🇦🇺

[@doobat708]

Another superb presentation. Seconding what others have said; considering how people on shore and those schooners behaved, it's no surprise locals have wanted to forget about it in shame.

[@TimoZNL]

I love the extra context and descriptive way of telling. Makes it a really immersive story and less of a factual "this caused that" summation. Entertaining and informative.

[@Stu293]

I always look forward to your telling of the stories of these little known wrecks. The CGI in particular brings the story to life and makes it easy to imagine. If you ever get to the Scottish side of the Atlantic, the loss of the emigrant ship Annie Jane off the coast of Barra whilst en route from Liverpool to Quebec in 1853 with the loss of 300 souls is a tragic tale.

[@Cashcrop54]

Well done Thomas. Your videos are always so well done and put together. I especially love hearing about the wrecks that are mostly forgotten. Thanks for all your hard work.

[@markofbrick]

27:50 Shame, cuz I would'da bought it 😹 You're truly the history channel we don't deserve

[@mako88sb]

Another top notch video. I’m a landlocked Canadian so not very knowledgeable about such things although I have read a lot of books about the Pacific war. Out of curiosity, I checked out Allan Line. Quite a large number of ships over the decades. Came across one named after my home city. The SS Calgarian. Unfortunately sunk by a Uboat during WW1. Interesting to find out that Captain Henry Kendall was in command. The same Captain who was in command of the Empress of Ireland when she sank. Might be worth doing a video about him and the SS Calgarian.

[@143DREWID]

As a former urchin diver in the N Atlantic. I'd drop overboard like an anchor, and search for a trace of her. Found some unknown pieces through the years, nothing special or with ID. Also have seen full size fridge and some engines on bottom. Everything slows down underwater, aside from demolition.

[@scottbruner9266]

Tom, your animations are absolutely stunning! I bet we would love a dive into how you do it, such as the one from Oceanliner Designs.

[@ronjones1077]

Very well done! Presentation and your in-person research is top notch. Thank you

[@jimstrickland8653]

Thanks, Tom, for yet another great documentary on forgotten maritime history. No one does them nearly as well as you!

[@doctoremil2678]

Great work as always!👍 Would you mind terribly if I suggested a disaster to cover? I was thinking of the Quintinshill Rail Disaster. There was a large amount of rule breaking and some corruption involved with that one, and next year there will be its 110th anniversary.

[@anmolkalyankar3844]

It always brings smile on my face when i see notification of your upload... Thank you for the awesome work you are doing and increasing my interest in History. I wish you all the success in the world.

[@e.jameszettlemoyer3819]

I once read a book describing Naval shipwrecks. i thought it was an interesting book but it was nothing like how you make these events come alive. Thank you for all your time and efforts in bringing these videos to us.

[@CPorter]

If this were any other channel, save for Oceanliner Designs or Big Old Boats, I would severely doubt the authenticity of some of the claims of the events of how this wreck transpired, although granted in the 1850s the way that people behaved comparatively to nowadays (or even a century later) was almost barbaric. Such as when a specific Collins liner sank, Cunard had a parade in celebration as one example I remember hearing. However, as per usual, Tom here uses all of the necessary language and ease of explaining context appropriately to make sure that the story is truthfully presented. I remain hopeful that we will find out more about this wreck in the future, and I'll lend a hand if necessary, however possible, to helping. But I don't have much faith that artifacts at this point aside from what's on the ocean floor will be recovered, maybe some museum/archive actually does have artifacts, but they dont even know it. Often everyone will think that there will be nothing left of something, but almost always when someone looks, there is more than expected at least it is worth the try, but I understand why no one would want to take you up on it.

[@TimHayward]

The behavior of people during hurricane Katrina demonstrates mobs can still be barbaric.

[@CPorter]

@TimHayward it was more governmental fuckups and FEMA Imcompetence than anything else for Katrina. But even mentioning Katrina, completely off the bat like this kind of suggests that you have something specific you're leading towards, so in that case, what is it you're trying to say by and large?

[@KiwiSentinel]

Have a read about La Bourgogne /Cromartyshire disaster 1899 for shock value.

[@sirboomsalot4902]

@@CPorterHe’s probably referring to the rapes, beatings, and possibly murders that occurred in the Louisiana Superdome, which the authorities there still deny ever happened.

[@user-js4vh2lw6n]

Fantastic piece of history! Thank you for all the hard work putting the video together.

[@JR-ut2ne]

It seems like people today always seem to complain about society going downhill. Yet watching this story makes one realize that society always had its flaws.

[@rikspector]

Tom, Thank you for another fascinating story. The sea has created tragedies from time immemorial, it is well worth remembering that even the mightiest vessels today could be downed by the Ocean's power. I'm from the New Jersey shore and there are many tragic and dark stories about our ships an shipwrecks'. Cheers, Rik Spector

[@RebinRed21]

Thanks for making my day better, it’s always great when you upload!

[@tylerm4321]

Yay another amazing shipwreck story I seriously love these man thank you so much. You made my bad day a lot better 🙏

[@stephenlawson2546]

I like this very much because you show the travel for passengers in forgotten time such as travel from England to the U,S. and Canada on ships other than bigger transatlantic passenger liners of expensive taste also is the realism of the time. All I can say is Thank You.

[@smiley148784]

Best maritime documentaries on KZbin.

[@RG-Models86]

Fantastic work as always, Tom 👍. Keep it up.

[@FlatcapHobbit]

Great film as always, one of my favorite channels! There’s something absolutely fascinating and beautiful about these early steamer/sail hybrid ships. Considering the behavior of the “rescuers” it’s amazingly fortunate that it wasn’t a much larger disaster.

[@badbaroque7760]

I never knew or read about 'soundings'...thank you for these exceptional videos, I love watching them.

[@jpandyaraja]

wow ...amazing , loved every bit of it, thank you very much. i come from Cornwall and there is so much to a story like this. More pls ! And perfect storytelling background in your " ship cabin"

[@easycamperdandog]

Another great video! Excellent story and nicely told. Thanks for sharing, love all your videos.

[@FastingStarChanelNo5]

Great intro. Looters after all this tragedy, terrible. "Not that bad." Come on Captain, have a heart. Seems the waters of Nova Scotia are extremely dangerous. TYSM Thomas.

[@guyk768]

Quite a fascinating story about the SS Indian. 18:00 Especially the story of the Irish man.

[@no_i_dont_want_no_slugs]

right, i was like... so he saw the future??? lol

[@Tanner93-q1p]

I love this channel i have a great interest in both shipwrecks and lesser known stories and to the great person bringing it to us 🎉👍

[@EternalCrusader]

Always a good evening when there is new adventures in history to go on with you. Your content is not only informative, but intriguing and engaging as well.

[@nateharder2286]

If more people survived than died, then i must agree with the captain. "Not that bad."

[@oriontaylor]

It may sound callous today, but in the context of 1859 (and the frequency of shipping disasters) it makes perfect sense.

[@Super_Bros.]

I am never here this early! Very exciting!

[@maizie9454]

i love this channel. always a great story told so well

[@stockmatthew2010]

Great documentary, you have come a long way, keep it up!

[@bonniehughes9549]

Very interesting story. Even if you dont have all the information, maybe it can help fill in missing pieces to someones life.

[@Chris-kq9lb]

Outstanding video! I love that you went there and the research and asking people that live there. Very very well done

[@The_Modeling_Underdog]

Some strong "The shipping news" vibes on that village... Excellent video, Tom. Solid 30 minutes. Cheers.

[@MsShep55]

Totally amazing recreation of these ships 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻‼️

[@MrDiddlebug]

That good 'ole Nova Scotian hospitality. Legendary. Another great video.

[@dustinryan5912]

Great job , researching and tracking information. You are a real explorer.. full time .

[@normanlathrop6533]

Excellently done! I’ve always loved history. Thank you!

[@Lucy96XxXx]

I feel like this is the first story in a while where the women and children actually survived 😂

[@Snailsareawesome-yb5hl]

❤😂

[@TheEwingTube]

Stellar job! I find your videos top notch, all of them.

[@Electriceye1984bySam]

Great to see another vid from you. Awesome animations👌🏻

[@randyhebbebusche3644]

Great video, so sad for the survivors. Thank you for your efforts in putting this together.

[@jamesdreads7828]

I love this channel. Far more than the bloody sea, i can tell you that much

[@chrisbergonzi7977]

Excellent work my man...thanks...

[@yoptastic8463]

Thank you very much for this visually striking video Tom and Co., for putting together this fabulous re-telling of, as you say a all but forgotten Maritime Disaster on that dangerous stretch of Nova Scotia Coastline. I can't believe the looters! That's just low and indecent of human lives and a level of disrespect. Liked the jailhouse/museum and the fact that you always try to look for a marked site or graves but it seems on this occasion their is little to nothing left, which is really sad but at least you were able to shine a light on this tragic story. 😊❤⚓🚢🌊

[@kikufutaba524]

Love your channel and videos, thank you

[@ProducersProductions]

Thank you for this great video can you do more documentaries on other ships from the 1850s and the 1860s?

[@sirboomsalot4902]

Another awesome documentary! I’ve been really enjoying this streak of documentaries on earlier liner disasters. I’d love to see one on the RMS Rhone at some point.

[@kevinquist]

love your show. thank you for the work you do. its a thankless job that historians have. most people just take it for granted or even more scoff. but they 'repeat history' due to their ignorance.

[@aeromotive2]

very interesting.. love what you do, hands-on reporting and all - keep it up

[@melissas447]

What was the general attitude towards ship wrecks during this time period? By this I mean were they regarded as shocking tragedies, or accepted as a normal part of life? Fantastic video!

[@CPorter]

I imagine it would have to be a mix of both. By and large people did very much care about wrecks, and wanted to prove that as many as possible. Often when one was bad enough, a lot of change occurred, either in terms of practices such as with how the looting threats were handled after the Indian like shown here, or in terms of landmarks being added such a lighthouses, after the Hungarian.

[@Weave.seen.this.b4]

Great coverage of this story! Ive been to Halifax, PEI, St. John; that water is so rough it'd surprise me if anyting was left.

[@tadfitch3294]

Very good video Tom.

[@evolveausevolveaus]

Thanks P.T.E

[@chiefexploring8634]

Always enjoy your videos. You are a great historian and story teller.

[@karaDee2363]

Very interesting story Tom... I would be willing to bet there's a unmarked and forgotten about cemetery nearby. It's amazing how fast nature erases traces of man-made objects left out to the elements

[@thedaisiesgrow]

Thank you for making this! Fascinating!

[@richardbeee]

Thanks!

[@PartTimeExplorer]

Thank you very much!

[@richardbeee]

@PartTimeExplorer your welcome. Can't give a lot or even all the time but when I can I do. Thank you

[@PartTimeExplorer]

I'm grateful for it.

[@CapeCodTrainTodd]

This is a nice and informative video. Thank you for doing it.

[@ISAF_Ace]

one interesting wreck to look at is the Mexico incident/Southport and St Annes Lifeboat disaster in England 1886. A Prussian ship was wrecked off Southport and signalled for Lifeboats, three lifeboats were dispatched, one from each of the nearby towns; Lytham, (Lytham) St Annes (a different place), and Southport. The Lytham crew rescued the surviving Germans, but the Southport and St Annes lifeboat crews were almost totally wiped out in the storm. It's well known around here (I'm local to the area it happened) and in the RNLI, but not so much around the country. There's quite a few memorials to it here, and original Lytham Lifeboat house is still standing to this day; the modern St Annes station also has a small museum to the event inside it.

[@alexpatyababa5221]

You are a treasure sir, great video so interesting!

[@thestonedabbot9551]

1:58 Damn, Mr Lynskey been researching this video since 1860. Thats devotion

[@lukebabcock3771]

WOOOHOOO NEW EXPLORES TIME🎉🎉😎

[@erikswensen425]

Tom, great episodes, as always! You should do an episode on the Portland side wheeler

[@KingPabs]

Great work as always awesome job. Glad I found your channel.

[@PartTimeExplorer]

Thanks, I’m glad you like it!

[@joesprague1464]

I enjoyed going aboard wrecks like those fishing boats as a kid and imagining the sights taken in through the pilot house windows while they were at sea,the wild storms and crashing seas they must have experienced…

[@rachelm2798]

I love listening to you read off some of the more, let's say, colorful patron names

[@HidingFromDaylight]

Another fantastic video and topic. Thanks!

[@jeffreycopeland8972]

Dear "Part Time Explorer" You should do a interesting story and sinking of The "SS Bounty. It's a very tragic story...