A sweet moment between Rhaenyra and Alicent | House Of The Dragon

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@lunar_kitt3n616
@lunar_kitt3n616 Жыл бұрын
for a second we saw teenage alicent and Rhaenyra
@selenarodgers5667
@selenarodgers5667 Жыл бұрын
Me too, it was nice moment. When they touch each other’s hands, they had flashbacks when they was the best of friends🥺❤️
@hapipatuti4192
@hapipatuti4192 Жыл бұрын
No we saw two adult understanding versions of both
@godfirst9990
@godfirst9990 Жыл бұрын
@@selenarodgers5667 their love is a lot deeper than just best friends in the books, i heard
@selenarodgers5667
@selenarodgers5667 Жыл бұрын
@David De Freitas Yeah, you can tell she reminisce to that day. That probably was her favorite memory of Rhaenyra 🥺❤️
@thatamericanbritishbloke5672
@thatamericanbritishbloke5672 Жыл бұрын
@@godfirst9990 Rhaenyra and Alicent weren't friends in the book because Alicent was a lot older than Rhaenyra.
@freebird264
@freebird264 Жыл бұрын
The cherry on top of this moment is Otto watching in the background. Alicent and Rhaenyra had a lovely friendship that might've lasted til death and then Otto's powerhungry ambitions to seat a Hightower on the throne ruined it all for everybody.
@machdude3366
@machdude3366 Жыл бұрын
This story is ran by second sons. The ambition of the second son to secure a legacy for his children pits him to fight another second son to supplant a kingdom to place his grandson as king only for the second grandson to be a far more powerful one in the battles to come.
@ivannasantos6838
@ivannasantos6838 Жыл бұрын
Basically the ones who brought ruin to the Targaryen dynasty were the Hightowers especially otto and then followed by alicent
@tylerberman7527
@tylerberman7527 Жыл бұрын
@@machdude3366 well, first son, second born. the reality of it is, in most cases a brother wouldnt submit to there sister.
@cursedkei66
@cursedkei66 Жыл бұрын
@@ivannasantos6838 Nah, Viserys brought ruin to the House of the Dragon. He was too indecisive and stubborn at the same time especially compared to his predecessor Jaehaerys. + He kept and then reinstated Otto despite his ambition, in comparison Jaehaerys never shied away from dismissing Hands that did not serve his interest. + He then insisted on Rhaenyra being heir instead of leaving it up to a vote, Jaehaerys set aside his own personal feelings (he favoured Rhaenys) and instead let the realm vote; which ensured that no one could challenge the succession. + He did not take any active part in running his family, leaving Alicent to fester resentment in his sons and allowing Rhaenyra to ruin her image with her philandering. Jaeharys made sure his children loved each other and for the ones that proved to wild to control, he took them to task even if it cost him his happiness. Viserys is a good man, but a terrible terrible king. Not Mad King or Joffrey terrible but certainly Robert Baratheon terrible.
@nessyness5447
@nessyness5447 Жыл бұрын
Ah yeah " friendship" that was totally a that was..
@claire3396
@claire3396 Жыл бұрын
when Alicent grabs her wrist she runs her thumb over the scar where she cut Rhaenyra and they both look down it for a moment. That’s it’s own moment of reconciliation
@jasperjon5931
@jasperjon5931 Жыл бұрын
That would be a great scene but. Its the wrong hand 🥺. I also wanted to think that too.
@nicolasdiez7688
@nicolasdiez7688 Жыл бұрын
It's a sign of reconection, she grabbed Rhaenyra's wrist just like in episode two, showing that their bond hasn't desappeared despite all those years and fights between each other
@giada7571
@giada7571 5 ай бұрын
No the scar was on the other arm
@HerbChao14xs
@HerbChao14xs 3 ай бұрын
@@giada7571 That's what I thought too (since Alicent is righty I think, so the slash would've been on Rhaenyra's left wrist/inner forearm).
@youbasictoxicconch
@youbasictoxicconch Жыл бұрын
The immediate tenderness in Rhaenyra's eyes when Alicent goes in a haste to hold her hand feels like stab; it's so sincere and shows that Alicent genuinely caught her off-guard with that gesture. Emma and Olivia are, once again, stellar.
@katlynmearl
@katlynmearl Жыл бұрын
I will forever look at them as “right person, wrong time” 🥺 I wish they could’ve ruled together. They truly loved each other.
@selenarodgers5667
@selenarodgers5667 Жыл бұрын
It breaks my heart to see them with pain and sadness🥺💔
@Alejojojo6
@Alejojojo6 Жыл бұрын
They werent in a romantic interest for each other damm xD. Specially not in the book. They were just very close friends and sadly it didnt work out because of circumstances.
@worldsred
@worldsred Жыл бұрын
@@Alejojojo6 sorry to disappoint you but the show is different than the book and they confirmed that they had romantic feelings :)
@kzingajimenez2810
@kzingajimenez2810 Жыл бұрын
@@Alejojojo6 The actors confirmed the connection between R+A borders on romantic feelings. GRRM is also a consultant on the show and emphasized the show is more accurate to the real plot as opposed to what’s written in ‘Fire and Blood’
@Alejojojo6
@Alejojojo6 Жыл бұрын
@@worldsred Emm sorry for you, they didnt confirm it lol haha. It was the actresses who said that they think that the characters have something more. Nothing official as of the producers, directors, writers etc has been said or confirmed. Even less from Goerge. HBO even said they left that open for everyone to think what they wanted. They said they did not plan this as a lesbian relationship but people are free to think what they wanted... So sorry but it hasnt been confirmed ;)
@jessedellross3245
@jessedellross3245 Жыл бұрын
They would’ve remained the best of friends if not for the manipulations of Otto
@giggle_snort
@giggle_snort Жыл бұрын
If Otto hadn't put the notion into Alicent's head that Rhaenyra would murder her children, maybe she wouldn't have reacted quite so strongly. Going even further back, if he hadn't practically forced a marriage between his daughter and the king, who was at least twenty years older than her, there would be no Aegon, no Aemond, no reason to start a war between them at all. So, yeah. You're right. It's all Otto's fault and I kind of hate his guts.
@laurateixeira4182
@laurateixeira4182 Жыл бұрын
So true 🥺
@hh-ug4ki
@hh-ug4ki Жыл бұрын
if not for otto alicent would have realized she's in love with rhaenyra lol
@jisookomblackpinkkru256
@jisookomblackpinkkru256 Жыл бұрын
​@@hh-ug4ki I think she already knew that, that's why it made everything so difficult for her (and when she was so upset when she found out that Rhaenyra might've hooked up with Daemon) 😭 whereas for Rhaenyra it wasn't so clear because she was also seeing her mother being replaced, not only that she was losing her best friend.. after everything settled down and a few time had passed, I think she started to realize that part of the reason she was so upset was because her feelings for Alicent run deeper as well.
@Alejojojo6
@Alejojojo6 Жыл бұрын
Even when Alicent had married Viserys, they were at peace again and things would have been great. Only Otto then kept plotting seeds on Alicents mind.
@blahblah1939
@blahblah1939 Жыл бұрын
People question if this was genuine but you can clearly see it was. They put aside their pride for this feast and then after alicent realised how much she missed her and rhaernya misses her too. They were each other’s first friends,and in a weird way first love (platonically) they so desperately wanted to be back to how they were for a second
@godfirst9990
@godfirst9990 Жыл бұрын
Yes they were.
@MicoB1022
@MicoB1022 Жыл бұрын
Before it all, Rhaenyra wanted nothing more than to just take Alicent on Syrax and travel across the Narrow Sea with her. This little moment between them brought me back to that. You can tell that for all their conflicts and problems with each other, Rhaenyra and Alicent never truly stopped loving each other.
@godfirst9990
@godfirst9990 Жыл бұрын
@@MicoB1022 i agree
@MissRedZelda
@MissRedZelda Жыл бұрын
Alicent is 100% in love with Rhaenyra.
@godfirst9990
@godfirst9990 Жыл бұрын
@@MissRedZelda and we know that there's a thin line between love and hate...
@godemperorofmankind3.091
@godemperorofmankind3.091 Жыл бұрын
The scenes with Rhaenyra tell me that all she ever really wanted was a meaningful and sincere apology and acknowledgement for all the dutiful hard work she's been doing. She hadn't been getting that from Rhaenyra until now, clearly. That combined with disowning Aegon as her son, helped her to come around and see Rhaenyra would be the better choice after all. She feels extreme bitterness resentment and hurt, made worse by her shitty marriage. But it was never really hate. or else the scenes in this episode with Rhaenyra can't happen. She is a complex tragic villain
@nitogame
@nitogame Жыл бұрын
She's not a villain and Rhaenyra is not a hero. They are all bad or grey. All of them.
@godemperorofmankind3.091
@godemperorofmankind3.091 Жыл бұрын
@@nitogame im trying to be even handed by not making too many excuses for her
@giggle_snort
@giggle_snort Жыл бұрын
I think the most fascinating thing about this series is that neither of the "hero" or "villain" figures are really the hero or the villain. There's no hero at all, and let's be real, the villain is Otto. And Aegon, he's kind of a piece of sh*t.
@madethistocomment727
@madethistocomment727 Жыл бұрын
​@@nitogame true. Rhaenyra is the protagonist and Alicent is an antagonist. Neither are heroes or villains
@uhrrrrrangels
@uhrrrrrangels Жыл бұрын
Alicent is not a villain to me. The reasons why she became what she is is to me justifiable.
@Mercury_ASC
@Mercury_ASC Ай бұрын
The way Alicent goes to grab Rhaenyra as if she’s been looking for an opportunity to touch her kindly again just sets it off for me. So much love
@tyeslim101
@tyeslim101 Жыл бұрын
Otto’s face though 😂😂😂😂
@dewilestari322
@dewilestari322 Жыл бұрын
Devil's face
@stl_cooley8007
@stl_cooley8007 Жыл бұрын
He knows he fucked up a bond 😂
@godfirst9990
@godfirst9990 Жыл бұрын
They had an amazing bond...Otto hating behind stay looking in the shadows.🤣🤣
@ramam6648
@ramam6648 Жыл бұрын
​@@godfirst9990 always looking from where he belongs lol
@dreamfyres
@dreamfyres Жыл бұрын
He likes to control Alicent and he didn’t like that Alicent tried to reconcile with rhaenyra
@bleedingcrystal4722
@bleedingcrystal4722 Жыл бұрын
Viscerys had truly diverted the war. Alicent had acknowledged that Aegon wasn’t fit and even accepted that Rhaenyra would be queen. This war will come down to a prank played years ago involving a pig. No pig prank equals no toast from Aemond which equals Rhaenyra would have had no reason to leave and would have still been there when Viscerys died and could have explained the prophecy to Alicent. Instead she’s not there giving Otto time to undo everything Viscerys wanted so badly.
@marti9734
@marti9734 Жыл бұрын
I mean there is also AN EYE involved and very implied bullying... lets not reduce to just the pig If anything IF ONLY LUCERYS DIDN'T LAUGH LIKE AN IDIOT
@sebadrum16
@sebadrum16 Жыл бұрын
I agree. If the show runners included this moment for this episode, I can’t imagine Alicent turning on Rhaenerya on a whim, even after the misunderstanding. Sounds like Otto, rather than Alicent, is going to take the king’s final words, and he’s going to run with them.
@PrettyTigerlilly
@PrettyTigerlilly Жыл бұрын
I find the whole thing so devastatingly sad. It truly is a tragedy. The showrunners have done a masterful job adapting GRRM's book to the screen (thank god HBO is listening to his input this time around).
@DH-hn6mx
@DH-hn6mx Жыл бұрын
In conclusion: that pig 🗿
@laurenstanciel1247
@laurenstanciel1247 Жыл бұрын
Which is nuts because Aegon was the ringleader of that prank to begin with.
@CA-bw9vw
@CA-bw9vw Жыл бұрын
If Alicent truly believed Rhaenyra would kill her kids, she would never reconcile with her. If Rhaenyra truly believed Alicent was abusing her father, she would never reconcile with her. It's external forces that kept them apart. These two always loved each other and they're waiting for enough reason to be friends again. Viserys gave them that reason.
@ohsuzeyq_
@ohsuzeyq_ Жыл бұрын
There was a glimmer of what once was....it can never go back to their past friendship sadly 😢
@GardenGnome118118
@GardenGnome118118 Жыл бұрын
The best acting is how Olivia and Emma have to pretend there’s any complication to their adoration for each other.
@janellejulianajoy
@janellejulianajoy Жыл бұрын
They were right there. A friendship could've been rekindled.
@silentknight3098
@silentknight3098 2 ай бұрын
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@rhaenyraitargaryen6360
@rhaenyraitargaryen6360 Жыл бұрын
The next time Rhaenyra comes back to King's Landing on dragonback will be a totally different scenario but despite everything that happened, Rhaenyra still spares Alicent's life.
@manvirshergill1739
@manvirshergill1739 Жыл бұрын
She comes to King's Landing a totally different person, crazy and paranoid are the right words. 🤣🤣
@fortheloveofcats2462
@fortheloveofcats2462 Жыл бұрын
@@manvirshergill1739 and with good reason. But she still spares Alicent and protects Helaena.
@masterplokoon8803
@masterplokoon8803 Жыл бұрын
@@fortheloveofcats2462 "protecting" Helaena when she and Daemon already destroyed her mental health.
@fortheloveofcats2462
@fortheloveofcats2462 Жыл бұрын
@@masterplokoon8803 Rhaenyra was kept in the dark about Blood and Cheese. It was planned and orchestrated by Daemon and Mysaria when Rhaenyra was busy grieving for her dead son and baby girl.
@masterplokoon8803
@masterplokoon8803 Жыл бұрын
​@@fortheloveofcats2462 Helaena is not a threat to her throne since she is a girl. The real threats are Viserys' sons Aegon, Aemond and Daeron and Aegon's last son Maelor.
@victoriaburroughs8399
@victoriaburroughs8399 9 ай бұрын
They never hated each other. Not really. That’s what makes the dissolution of their friendship so heartbreaking. They loved each other dearly and still do deep down, but the circumstances they’ve found themselves in due to their royal bloodlines and their own individual choices pushed them apart. By the finale, when it all comes crashing down, you can’t help but feel sorrowful. They were once so close, and now they’re prepared to destroy one another…
@jjs1300000
@jjs1300000 Жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra and Alicent would’ve remained friends, if Otto hadn’t interfered.
@lgbtorion
@lgbtorion 3 ай бұрын
they are so in love it’s crazy
@Jay-xs2ug
@Jay-xs2ug Жыл бұрын
“I’ll return on dragon back” iykyk
@crystalcastillo7575
@crystalcastillo7575 Жыл бұрын
Ughh it sucks that they’ve couldn’t be friends again DAMMIT
@Infernal460
@Infernal460 Жыл бұрын
You willing to bet your life and the lives of those you love to the whim of an absolute monarch.
@TheJulietxo
@TheJulietxo Жыл бұрын
@@Infernal460 Rhaenyra wouldn't have killed her siblings so it wasn't really a bet but Otto made Alicent think it was a bet. Sad really
@Alejojojo6
@Alejojojo6 9 ай бұрын
@@TheJulietxo She would have been force to... because they are males and they will always be factions wanting to put them above Rhaenyra and specially before the bastard sons she had. They will always have more legitimazy than her in the eyes of all Male primogeniture laws. So in the end, to secure her claim she would be forced to kill them. A bit like Elizabeth I was forced to kill her cousin, Mary Queen of Scots.
@bobyariantosaputra9329
@bobyariantosaputra9329 Жыл бұрын
People online be really sh*tting about the decision of Rhaenyra and Alicent friendship, saying it isn’t like the book. I think it is brilliant. It really elevates the complication of the relationship between these two characters.
@anikethchakraborty3238
@anikethchakraborty3238 Жыл бұрын
The series is a work of art
@fireandblood2919
@fireandblood2919 9 ай бұрын
It actually is in the book. They started off as friendly in the book. Hell, Alicent even called her daughter.
@marsipannable
@marsipannable Жыл бұрын
So sad this will probably be their last sweet moment😭
@StanleyMabonga
@StanleyMabonga Жыл бұрын
I think we will have more moments. They will have their dragon ride😤😤😤😤😤
@mirandageddes5657
@mirandageddes5657 Жыл бұрын
I think they will forever have the memories of what was but now it’s too late to go back they must be enemies until the end because of what they have done and can’t redo x
@MemoirsofaBasketcase
@MemoirsofaBasketcase Жыл бұрын
I actually think Alicent was actually willing to CONSIDER a peace. But then she had to go misinterpret drunk Viserys…
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 Жыл бұрын
Alicent got pressured by Otto very much to make sure her children go on top
@horsemann7354
@horsemann7354 Жыл бұрын
In this scene they've already reconciled though and Alicent already gave up the throne to her friend even though she doesn't think it's the right thing to do. She chose her friendship over duty. It's too bad she misunderstood Viserys' dying words.
@Infernal460
@Infernal460 Жыл бұрын
@@MemoirsofaBasketcase No the fuse was already lit, the only thing that can change is the timing of events.
@facu_avm
@facu_avm Ай бұрын
What saddens me the most is that, In the end it’s always been the story of a beautiful friendship torn apart.
@TheLoneWolfofTruth3654
@TheLoneWolfofTruth3654 7 ай бұрын
0:08 You can see the unspoken “forgive me” from Alicent here when she runs her thumb over the scar on Rhaenyra’s arm that she caused. They were so close to mending things… and then Viserys had to go and kick the bucket that very night.
@Honeymoon1988
@Honeymoon1988 Жыл бұрын
Otto was so bothered.
@jimmyallgood781
@jimmyallgood781 Жыл бұрын
An amazing episode, truly tragic, especially the miscommunication between Allicent and King Viserys on his deathbed at the end, about Aegon's prophecy and the prince who was promised, it was meant for Rhae, not her. The first of many tragedies. The dance of dragons has officially begun... I love how they've written this story to be so infuriating at times, because of characters actions & decisions, not because it's written badly, but because it's written so right! Every characters motivation makes sense here, and it's okay not to pick a side, as both sides have likable and relatable qualities to them, both commit evil deeds to further their legacy, and ultimately both Rhaenyra and Alicent are tragic products of their political environment, actually you could say that about the whole damn family! Peak television storytelling. 10/10
@ramam6648
@ramam6648 Жыл бұрын
Your comment is gold 🥇
@giggle_snort
@giggle_snort Жыл бұрын
Well said 👏👏👏
@yesthatmousyiris4887
@yesthatmousyiris4887 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad someone said that I don't considered myself team Black nor Green (Please don't kill me Black and Green fans), but I know seeing all of this are the results of politics and society that made these women and everyone to be.
@lordalessan
@lordalessan Жыл бұрын
Possible spoilers: I haven't read the books but I think Alicent will be devastated to hear what Aegon II did to Rhaenyra and will regret her part in the war. She never even wanted the throne. Perhaps she'll spend her years dreaming that she flew on a with Rhaenyra and ate lots of cake.
@fortheloveofcats2462
@fortheloveofcats2462 Жыл бұрын
well, in the books, they were 8 years apart so they never dreamt of flying together on dragonback, but Alicent did regret a lot of things, even in the books.
@s_shaleh
@s_shaleh Жыл бұрын
Yeah possibly. They've really tried to humanize Alicent in the show. And by establishing their friendship, surely Rhaenyra's death would affect her in some way. Book Alicent was much more ruthless and calculating. And they were never friends at all, so Rhaenyra's death wouldn't have mattered to her. Her regret possibly comes from acknowledging that she destroyed her own house and basically killed her own children by dragging them into her conflict with Rhaenyra.
@snorlaxxx8894
@snorlaxxx8894 Жыл бұрын
By them being friends would be more tragic after what's coming for all of them as the story goes imo. I think they're doing great so far🙂
@jjs1300000
@jjs1300000 Жыл бұрын
Alicent will be shattered, she loses everything. Her best friend, children and grandchildren.
@s4m1r_65
@s4m1r_65 Жыл бұрын
Since she is one of the only survivers from the main cast in the end, yes. She actually regrets and in the show I bet she will feel awful that her child did that to her ex best friend since they actually have a connection and a relationship in the show
@MarchAngeloPAlino
@MarchAngeloPAlino Жыл бұрын
It's very tragic, and even more so realizing that Alicent isn't necessarily evil, and along the way, we will begin to feel her great losses in the dance, and and empathize with her misery when the events unfold, and obviously she would even regret having her son kill Rhaenyra while losing all her children in the process, talk about the dying dragons and wasted armies due to the civil war. Great losses like that coming from my own hands would make me suicidal.
@elainemarie8725
@elainemarie8725 Жыл бұрын
I wish I had someone who looked at me the way Alicent looks at Rhaenyra… Idc what anybody says alicent in love with rhaenyra but probably never admit it.
@StanleyMabonga
@StanleyMabonga Жыл бұрын
Alicent is in love with Rhaenrya.
@lillielavelle9738
@lillielavelle9738 Жыл бұрын
This. I think she's bisexual or maybe full lesbian it looked like hetero sex was doing nothing for her. She was jealous of Rhaenrya sleeping with Daemon too. Not because she wanted Daemon but because she wanted Rhaenrya....
@hereiam8
@hereiam8 8 ай бұрын
@@lillielavelle9738 lmao go to the doctor weirdo
@luciferthelesbian
@luciferthelesbian 3 ай бұрын
@DreamfyreMaybe not explicitly. But, in the show, you can definitely see the lesbian undertones. Elements of her storyline also revolve around compulsory heterosexuality in a misogynistic, middle-aged society. And, also, pretty sure the showrunners and actors were like "yea, they're kinda gay." Or their story is kinda like a love story at least
@pfvampire
@pfvampire Жыл бұрын
People will say whatever they want, but for me personally? I see how Alicent could be in love with Rhaenyra, I don’t think she realizes she’s in love though.
@lordathenion
@lordathenion Жыл бұрын
When she said she'll return on dragonback.....*foreshadowing*
@KingCraze22
@KingCraze22 Жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra would have named Alicent as her hand I believe.
@Prophetofthe8thLegion
@Prophetofthe8thLegion Жыл бұрын
Well she wasn’t wrong. She did return on Dragonback.
@EmpirealDemocracy
@EmpirealDemocracy 8 ай бұрын
I may side with Rhaenyra but I don't hate Alicent like some people do. She was put in this position by her father's a maneuvering. And the fucked up thing is that it's hard to even blame him. Like yeah, he chose to do what he did, but he's also a powerful lord in Westeros. It's basically expected for him to play the game and advance his house's standing.
@s4m1r_65
@s4m1r_65 Жыл бұрын
This is utterly heartbreaking
@ricjr9637
@ricjr9637 Жыл бұрын
To do what exactly? What did the two of you plan on doing if Viserys didn't die? Those two obviously have a thing for each other.
@mitzurien
@mitzurien 9 ай бұрын
This was so fucked up because she really did miss Rhaenyra but she immediately turned her back on her AGAIN. It was so frustrating to watch 😭
@icewinddale2675
@icewinddale2675 Жыл бұрын
I love them both so much my heart breaks for them!
@myllenekretliwandermaasmyl2660
@myllenekretliwandermaasmyl2660 Жыл бұрын
Well, Rhaenyra will return to King's Landing with Syrax, but Alicent wouldn't appreciate it now.
@idil654
@idil654 Жыл бұрын
And my ship has sailed.
@raemontargaryen3005
@raemontargaryen3005 Жыл бұрын
all of this “sons are preferable in medieval times” theme are still very relevant to this episode. even Corlys prefer driftmark to be inherited to Lucerys who is clearly not his own blood rather than Baela/Rhaena who are his actual true blood, just because they are female granchildrens from Laena who is also a woman. i think Rhaenys has been missjudged Corlys all this time, sure he said he always says that rhaenys deserved the throne and everything, but his actions speaks otherwise. at the end is all about his own pursuit.
@l.n.3372
@l.n.3372 Ай бұрын
You have to take into account that if Rhaenys had been queen, then Corlys would be her prince consort. It's possible that Corlys ambition wanted to have the highest seat possible, and married to the queen would have given him such. He wanted Rhaenys as queen because it would elevate his own status, not because he favors female inheritance. Corlys starts off selfish and blinded by ambition, but he apologizes to Rhaenys eventually.
@hunterknight
@hunterknight Жыл бұрын
In short, this episode is where all hell break lose, or best we say, the calm before the storm. I truly hope that they can mend their broken relationships and put the past in the past but with just one misunderstanding, it all break apart and turn to shambles.
@ramam6648
@ramam6648 Жыл бұрын
I'm just so disappointed about that misunderstanding and I have to admit I'm so scared about what comes next... like I don't want Rhaenyra to think that her father finally didn't want her on the throne 😭 I know I'm very sensitive but episode 8 gave us so many sweet moments and was so emotional that I hope they will at least leave Rhaenyra happy with her memories and last moments with her father... That series is so good that I can't just choose a team I'm just feeling everything and I regret that everything that was humane in these characters is gonna be shattered by power hunger which was born because of their toxic polotical environment...
@anyili3196
@anyili3196 Жыл бұрын
Due to complainants about spoiler: How she says I will return on dragonback. It’s really foreshadowing that the next time they see each other would be when Rhaenyra has sacked King’s Landing.
@addabboo
@addabboo Жыл бұрын
spoilers spoilers spoiler, god we cannot come to youtube..
@quizzlybear
@quizzlybear Жыл бұрын
Yeah pls don't spoil stuff for everyone, that just makes you a crappy human being.
@thegoodedits
@thegoodedits Жыл бұрын
@@quizzlybear lmao can't believe you all get bitchy because of "spoilers" given that Fire and Blood came out years ago. Even in GoT (books and series) there are multiple mentions of the Dance of the Dragons and the fate of its participants. Heck even Rhaenyras fate is mentioned by Joffrey. You don't want to get spoiled? Either you catch up with the lore or don't click on anything related to HotD. It's not anyones fault you are not on the same page and comment section is for everyone to comment.
@KabbalahSherry
@KabbalahSherry Жыл бұрын
**[SPOILERS]** Rhaenyra doesn't "sack" King's Landing when she comes. 🥴🤣 What are you talking about?? Aegon isn't there, so Daemon & Rhaenyra take advantage of that, and simply fly in. LOL And plz don't come in here talking source material spoilers, without properly marking it for people, come on bruh....
@angryguy3000
@angryguy3000 Жыл бұрын
Lmfao at people mad about “spoilers” for the Dance of Dragons
@erin_3569
@erin_3569 Жыл бұрын
The romantic undertones. My heart
@marcusrelicus728
@marcusrelicus728 Жыл бұрын
Not everything that involves touching is "romance"
@sebastianzuzi311
@sebastianzuzi311 Жыл бұрын
@@marcusrelicus728 nah man im like 50% sure that alicent is in love with rhaenyra she just doesnt want to admit it. Love and hate are two sides of the same coin
@pluckybellhop66
@pluckybellhop66 Жыл бұрын
@@marcusrelicus728 They had so much potential to be the best of lovers 💔
@AmiWhiteWolf
@AmiWhiteWolf Жыл бұрын
No one knows the difference between sisterly love and actual love between the same sex anymore. Now it’s just they’re “fucking”.That’s all people know now.
@gabAO06
@gabAO06 Жыл бұрын
@@marcusrelicus728 The actors did say they played them as each other’s first loves in mind.
@capricovington4164
@capricovington4164 8 ай бұрын
she indeed did return on dragon back with a whole different attitude.
@nasmatique
@nasmatique Жыл бұрын
Imagine if they were still as close as in the beginning as adults. The House would've been unstoppable by the time of GoT due to its stability. Jon and Daenerys would've probably exist, but with different appearances and circumstances. Rhaenyra would've been Queen for 20 years, before giving the throne to her eldest son, Jacaerys. Who would've married Helaena. Eventually Aegon and Viserys would've make it as Kings. To congratulate Alicent on her life devotion and sacrifices, Rhaenyra would've offer her to go in Essos together. To retire together peacefully and as besties. (Alicent would've need this as a reward after spending too much time in King's Landing) Daemon wouldn't mind being left alone as he would've been Hand of the king for Rhaenyra and multiple Kings before he passes away. And as for Aegon (Alicent's) and Aemond, they would've serve in the council. With one of them probably marrying one of Daemon's daughters. Since Alicent wouldn't be bitter in this alternate scenario, Aemond and Aegon would've been faithful to Jacaerys and Lucerys. Probably even best friends too, to follow their mothers example.
@godemperorofmankind3.091
@godemperorofmankind3.091 Жыл бұрын
the Dance is inevitable. Jace is wildly considered a bastard so there will always be factions who prefer Aegon the Younger as king, or Aegon the Elder
@nasmatique
@nasmatique Жыл бұрын
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 I believe that the King/Queen's words are absolute, especially if there are some siblings to enforce thoses orders. So if Rhaenyra decided to name Jacaerys as her heir, despite many whispers, most would still be on board. Especially if Daemon is around. Not to mention, Alicent would not be as cold in this version, since her and Rhaenyra would've made their peace. Which means that the green faction, would mostly be on the Blacks' side. Perhaps Aemond and Criston would still be angry, but they would never go against the crown. Especially with that many support in Jacaerys' side. I'm pretty sure Alicent and Rhaneyra are the key which opened the Dance.
@anikethchakraborty3238
@anikethchakraborty3238 Жыл бұрын
They needed to spend more time together and put aside their ranks, hierarchy,etc.
@jeremiahjoe8283
@jeremiahjoe8283 2 ай бұрын
If Rhaenyra had returned to Kings-landing alone not knowing her father had died they more than likely would have killed her.
@roksi2210
@roksi2210 3 ай бұрын
It's crazy how different their relationship is in the show versus the one in the books... In the show, there are certain moments where it seems there is almost something romantic between them. Meanwhile, in the books they have an evil step-monther & step-daughter dynamic. I like they made Alicient more mellow in the show, and the age gap more similar between them. I I wonder how they are going to navigate this in the following seasons.
@sniffsniffmmm8873
@sniffsniffmmm8873 Жыл бұрын
The world are cruel for those two innocent girls and look how they've grown 😔
@missrubyphoenix
@missrubyphoenix Жыл бұрын
Alicent is, to me, one of those characters that I love to hate and hate to love, I have mixed feelings about her, since I see she's just her father's puppet, she's so innocent that has believed everything he said Rhaenyra would do to her and her children, which I highly doubt, Rhae was the rightful heir, but she doesn't have the heart to kill her siblings just because of the throne.... Aemond is a whole other story, I know this is basically over a century before the events of Game of Thrones but I just get the feeling that he's going to be far worse than Ramsay, which I once considered the most vicious, and evil character on the show
@saltae4343
@saltae4343 Жыл бұрын
That's the thing about politics right, no true hero nor villain only people with grey moral fighting to keep their power at any cost
@cait812
@cait812 Жыл бұрын
Tbf I think she genuinely believed Rhaenyra wouldn't but then Rhaenyra lied to her and Alicent couldn't tell she was lying which likely made her doubt if she could trust her.
@FromNaboo
@FromNaboo Ай бұрын
One touch from Alicent and Rhaenyra changes her plans. She still means a lot to her. Childhood best friends are hard to forget.
@Beepbeepbeepbe
@Beepbeepbeepbe 15 сағат бұрын
Rhaenyra wants to f Alicent
@lyonprairie2691
@lyonprairie2691 Жыл бұрын
I believe Alicent is more deeply, emotionally sensitive than Rhaenyra. She has the ability to go back to being sweet to rhaenyra but sadly, after that moment when Alicent lost composure in the previous episode, i notice Rhaenyra has grown colder :( Judging by this scene, it seems like she doesn't have a single f*ck anymore if their friendship will be ruined forever.
@hamithyjones3894
@hamithyjones3894 Жыл бұрын
It was also seen when they were young. Young Alicent was the one who approached Rhaenyra first who was reading under the Weirwood tree. Rhaenyra always distants herself (which is understandable.) These two are tragic characters :(
@lyonprairie2691
@lyonprairie2691 Жыл бұрын
@@hamithyjones3894 I see a combo of Cersei and Dany on Rhaenyra. I hope they won't turn her into any of them
@CeruleanSword
@CeruleanSword Жыл бұрын
@@lyonprairie2691 Rhaenyra is a combo of Cersei and Dany. Alicent is a combo of Cersei and Margaery, Both are quite dangerous combinations, and it’s definitely the route they’re taking.
@raf3765
@raf3765 7 ай бұрын
she doesn’t have a single fck?? did u see how she caresses Alicent back while Alicent held her wrist? and how she looked at her giving in to her request that she stays? greentards be watching a different show everytime trying to paint Rhaenyra as bad 😂😂😂
@raf3765
@raf3765 7 ай бұрын
@@lyonprairie2691 Cersei? Wasn’t it Alicent who kept antagonizing Rhaenyra when she tries to make peace? at this point, you’re delusional 😂
@rachael8646
@rachael8646 Ай бұрын
Rhaenyra was the only true friend that Alicent ever had.
@Queenofdragons93
@Queenofdragons93 2 ай бұрын
This was a bit of a plot hole. Because she never returned. She was heavily pregnant so it's possible she decided to stay home later on
@TimberlakeTigerGirl
@TimberlakeTigerGirl 2 ай бұрын
Viserys died later that night or the next night. Rheanyra was about 5 or 6 months pregnant when she miscarried.
@Beepbeepbeepbe
@Beepbeepbeepbe 15 сағат бұрын
Nah Sara Hess said in a deleted scene rhaenyra and Alicent were scissoring each other
@eadred9164
@eadred9164 Жыл бұрын
This is such a tragic scene, as these two people are trying their best against fate to bring their families out of the precipice. But they are destined to fail. The childhood friendship adds a tragic Shakesperean dimension to the story.
@fireandblood2919
@fireandblood2919 9 ай бұрын
Otto at 0:01 💀
@FupaDoncic
@FupaDoncic Ай бұрын
“Do not talk to the Opps daughter.”
@sandraxomichelle93
@sandraxomichelle93 Ай бұрын
he wanted to say something homophobic SO bad
@BleedingGrafitti
@BleedingGrafitti 10 ай бұрын
If only Baelon lived. Viserys would have his precious male heir from Aemma. Alicent and Rhaenyra would run away together on the back of Syrax and finally explore their passion for each other.
@neishasurprise484
@neishasurprise484 5 ай бұрын
It would’ve been sweet and many of us would’ve gotten the yuri moment we wanted between those two. But the Dance of the Dragons would’ve never happened so…. Let the games begin!!! 😂
@ThatBrunetteFromCali
@ThatBrunetteFromCali Жыл бұрын
This scene right here is why I’m standing by my theory that Alicent is a victim of her fathers brain washing.
@joshuaadams6565
@joshuaadams6565 Жыл бұрын
I mean she’s not wrong. She will return to Kingslanding on dragonback 👀
@juliancain3872
@juliancain3872 3 ай бұрын
Aside from her children, Alicent I believe is Rhaenyra's one weakness.
@dreamfyres
@dreamfyres Жыл бұрын
Otto gives Alicent a disapproving look at Alicent when she goes to rhaenyra
@flaviefiorentino7905
@flaviefiorentino7905 Жыл бұрын
I love them together
@selenarodgers5667
@selenarodgers5667 Жыл бұрын
Same, this breaks my heart 🥺❤️
@xrystal89
@xrystal89 8 ай бұрын
This was literally their last chance to crush everything between their families. They should have went to Viserys that night and proposed a different marriage alliance, with Daemon's children marrying Alicent's or annuling Helena/Aegon and matching Helena with one of Rhaenyra's boys or ANYTHING besides watching the hatred inside their kids fester and then blowing it off. These adults dumb af.
@Tormund_Giantsbrain
@Tormund_Giantsbrain Жыл бұрын
Sucks that next time they see each other Alicent will be on her knees begging Rhaenrya to end the war while Rhaenrya will be contemplating forcing Alicent to work in a brothel as punishment. Rhaenyra is truly the hero we deserve.
@alexissimpson5819
@alexissimpson5819 Жыл бұрын
That plot is hearsay and if you really think the show will do that, you’re an idiot.
@rebeccamariani
@rebeccamariani 7 ай бұрын
That didn't happen, it was only a story told by people in k.landing because the resent Rhaenyra
@raf3765
@raf3765 7 ай бұрын
None of it wouldn’t happen if Alicent didn’t STEAL what’s rightfully Rhaenyra’s. You reap what you sow, sucker. 😂
@aishahamma334
@aishahamma334 5 ай бұрын
​@@raf3765Alicent didn't steal anything. I never understood why you keep saying she stole her throne. She just misunderstood Vesris,s last message. He said ageon will unite the kingdoms. The price that was choosen. So of course anyone would believe it's that ageon thire son If she really wanted to steal the throne she would have told ageon to kill rhaenyra but she didn't. She was telling the council she wouldn't kill rhaenyra. If she really ment to take the throne she would support them killing rhaenyra
@patrick1403
@patrick1403 3 ай бұрын
Rhaenyra as queen and alicent as hand of the queen will always be my headcannon. (Rhaenys as master of law or coin too for good measure)
@samuelwilliams7949
@samuelwilliams7949 11 ай бұрын
If what follows next didn't happen, they could've repaired their friendship
@mjb_mohd
@mjb_mohd Жыл бұрын
Viserys marrying alicent was never a problem..she and rhaenyra might have reunited after some time but the main mastermind behind their relationship failure was otto
@selenarodgers5667
@selenarodgers5667 Жыл бұрын
Facts, since the beginning it was him puppeteering things. I hate him the most 😤 😠🤬
@TheEndermanNestGPage
@TheEndermanNestGPage Жыл бұрын
Your best friend marrying your dad is always a problem
@BleedingGrafitti
@BleedingGrafitti 10 ай бұрын
@@TheEndermanNestGPage Yes, but there was still potential for the two to reunite. They even did for a while, and then Larys Strong had to go and tell Alicent secrets about Rhaenyra's personal life.
@chescie_
@chescie_ Жыл бұрын
Why couldn’t it be like this
@anonymousnation5235
@anonymousnation5235 Жыл бұрын
Both Rhaenyra and Alicent lived sad lives but I feel more bad about Alicent. She didn't choose most of the things she had to do and constantly felt bad for hurting her friend. Rhaenyra chose her journey of fighting for her right. She was more confident in whatever she had to do for her birthright.
@communismwillbeeradicated.6128
@communismwillbeeradicated.6128 Жыл бұрын
seems like a typical family quarrel and then once every couple of years they all get together for a reunion and make up!
@rezd2892
@rezd2892 3 ай бұрын
If either Rhaenyra or Alicent was born a son, Otto would already suggest a wedding to Viserys the moment they were born, just saying
@miraafloyd
@miraafloyd Жыл бұрын
Somebody couldn’t have killed Otto’s ass years ago?! 😢 Seeing them like this just hurts so much more. They never got to fly on dragon back together across the Narrow Sea. House Targaryen & Velaryon could have remained so strong. 😭
@alexi1712
@alexi1712 Жыл бұрын
If Rhaenyra was a little bit late to get the dragon egg that was stolen by Daemon, Otto could've been a bbq by then, Caraxes was not having his bs, as was Daemon. Too bad tho, she was there to prevent bloodshed but look where it got them. There's so many opportunities to kill Otto but damnn he always gets away
@ibrahimsurti4922
@ibrahimsurti4922 Жыл бұрын
wanna know the funny thing Alicent might have even given up on Aegon sitting on the throne after seeing him too bad poor viserys had to make THAT CHOSEN AEGON SPEECH
@BigDolla870
@BigDolla870 Жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra with the spoilerss Oh my goshh🤣
@alexissimpson5819
@alexissimpson5819 Жыл бұрын
Almost as bad as Helaena
@blueskye6224
@blueskye6224 Жыл бұрын
they're kinda in love
@jisookomblackpinkkru256
@jisookomblackpinkkru256 Жыл бұрын
To think that this is the last time they saw each other before the war.. like they literally left each other with love and respect and a little bit of hope in the air that their friendship might be rekindled and then all hell broke loose.. and fvcking Otto just wouldn't stop pushing it too, well it didn't take much considering he manipulated her her whole life but still. My Rhaealicent heart 🥺💔
@Unownshipper
@Unownshipper Жыл бұрын
That moment when you realize this is the last time they see each other in peace.
@rungupuputherlambang6853
@rungupuputherlambang6853 Жыл бұрын
The last scene of this episode really humanized Alicent and I hate it 😂 I didn't plan to sympathize with her at all but now I did.
@icewinddale2675
@icewinddale2675 Жыл бұрын
I wish their friendship lasted, but alas as fate would have it!
@TheLoneWolfofTruth3654
@TheLoneWolfofTruth3654 8 ай бұрын
SPOILERS FROM FIRE AND BLOOD: I think the way the dance will end in the show will have Alicent be the one who poisons Aegon for what he will do to Rhaenyra. In the book it is left ambiguous as to who is responsible but I think the show will have it be Alicent as her final act before succumbing to the winter fever.
@garlantyrell6368
@garlantyrell6368 8 ай бұрын
I don’t think Alicent would kill her own son, especially if he’s her last remaining child. At the point, she would just be done with it all because of the deaths of most of her family.
@neishasurprise484
@neishasurprise484 5 ай бұрын
@@garlantyrell6368I definitly can get down with the original commenters theory . Only because Alicent saw her children as a duty and extension of her self. She had possessiveness and control issues because she was a pawn and it was the only way she could exert power. If she hit rock bottom, already lost her other children and grandchildren. As well as the guilt from her past friendship with Rhaenyra who was her only true companion that cared for her genuine wellbeing before her marriage to King Viserys. I think it would actually be pretty realistic that her last act would be to end everything by poisoning her child as a last farewell before succumbing to the fever. Also the fever would’ve heightened any intense emotions and made her a bit crazy. Parents in her position have murdered their own children for less. It’s not like they were born out of love and willingness.
@mariamkurian1850
@mariamkurian1850 Жыл бұрын
People mention that otto was there, but you see helaena was there as well, waiting for her mother, they blured it out of course.
@huldrrrr9486
@huldrrrr9486 8 ай бұрын
Alicent and Rhaenyra kinda forgot they tried to have each others children maimed and tortured
@ryankwon8785
@ryankwon8785 Жыл бұрын
If Jacaerys married Haelena, the situation would've been resolved. House Hightower and House Velayron can equally have influence over Jacaerys and Haelena's children in the future so it shouldn't be a problem. I can be very confused since mostly ambition is driven by people who want to change the system to suit their goals. However, all the houses just look like they want to maintain the status quo since the Targaryens will always be in power. The Targaryens still remained in power without their dragons for many more years.
@godemperorofmankind3.091
@godemperorofmankind3.091 Жыл бұрын
not really. the two sides still would have been enemies with each other. its just that helaena would now be used like a hostage by the Blacks. it solves nothing. actually the war happens sooner since Jace is an obvious bastard that the entire realm will overthrow and kill rather than allow to be king
@natashajohnston381
@natashajohnston381 11 ай бұрын
These comments are cool
@SolusArmatura
@SolusArmatura Жыл бұрын
And the last.
@maliklaidlaw8945
@maliklaidlaw8945 2 ай бұрын
If otto wasnt such a snake the Green/ Blacks would have been STRONGGGG
@ladyautumnus
@ladyautumnus Жыл бұрын
now this is angst lesbianity
@nicolasdiez7688
@nicolasdiez7688 9 ай бұрын
I strongly believe that if Viserys had not died that night, Rhaenyra and Alicent would've made amends and repaired their friendship. From what she said to Rhaenyra, Alicent truly wanted to fix their relationship, probably because of that speech of Viserys during the dinner. Anyway, I'm sure if Viserys had lived one or two more days things could've been so different
@cassieweepwoomp
@cassieweepwoomp Жыл бұрын
when rhaenyra said that, she wasn’t asking to see her siblings, she was asking to see alicent’s children🥹
@fortheloveofcats2462
@fortheloveofcats2462 Жыл бұрын
She was talking about her own children
@hailkingcerion800
@hailkingcerion800 Жыл бұрын
Now if I were an advisor for Rhaenyra, I would advise letting Aegon take the throne. She should have played the long game instead of trying to quicken her ascent like Aegon the Uncrowned had done before against Maegor and long after her when Viserys the Beggar King tried against Robert Baratheon and ultimately came up short. What she should've done is wait as Jaehaerys did, Aegon the Elder would ruin his own reign and suffer slight upon slight towards his people and Rhaenyra could use the ensuing chaos to garner support against her brother. Feign defeat and try to win through the shadows than what occurred.
@Mountain_enjoyer
@Mountain_enjoyer Жыл бұрын
aegon has a younger brother which the throne would go to, it would never go back to rhaenyra after Aegon unless all of Alicents children were dead
@cicis_
@cicis_ Жыл бұрын
lol not like that ferguzo
@pg1448
@pg1448 Жыл бұрын
The problem here is that Aegon may be a twat but he is no Maegor the Cruel. His rule would probably resemble that of Robert Baratheon a lot. He would drink and whore and let his hand and council rule the realm. He wouldn't be a popular king but also not so bad that the people would rise up against him. Challenging Aegon directly after his coronation was the only way to garner any support. If she had allowed him to rule, the longer he reigns the more legitimate his rule becomes in the eyes of the realm. Then again if she had just allowed him to rule she wouldn't have lost three of her sons and her own life. Her son may have ended up on the throne eventually, but the question is, was it worth it?
@masterplokoon8803
@masterplokoon8803 Жыл бұрын
Except that Aegon wasn't interested in rulling and had skilled administrators that would just run things for him so no there would be no chaos that Rhaenyra could exploit. It would just let her claim die.
@raf3765
@raf3765 7 ай бұрын
@@Mountain_enjoyernot if they usurp it like how the Greens did. at this point, all is fair.
@foolslayer9416
@foolslayer9416 Жыл бұрын
If Alicent and Rhaenyra remained friends, I can imagine the two of them having wine while talking about the stupid men in their lives or both of them scolding Daemon and Aemond after doing some stupid shit.
@nicolasdiez7688
@nicolasdiez7688 Жыл бұрын
For a moment they went back when they were teenagers
@melieflynn-hayes7996
@melieflynn-hayes7996 Жыл бұрын
They would have been friends after this if Alicent hadn’t believed that viserys had changed his mind.
@kristybriggs
@kristybriggs Жыл бұрын
I wished she has of stayed and sent the children with daemon
@selenarodgers5667
@selenarodgers5667 Жыл бұрын
Same 🥺❤️
@alexissimpson5819
@alexissimpson5819 Жыл бұрын
She would have been killed. Otto was planning the take over regardless of what Alicent said.
@Piotr12396
@Piotr12396 Жыл бұрын
Are you serious?they would have killed her
@yesthatmousyiris4887
@yesthatmousyiris4887 11 ай бұрын
I admit I like both women, I know a lot of fans are divided due to what happen to them but you know...
@gisellegeorge6184
@gisellegeorge6184 10 ай бұрын
That dinner almost made Viserys one wish that the family come together come through
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