A Total Refutation of Jehovah's Witnesses on Christ's Resurrection

[@petercmontano]

Amazing presentation. I pray God will use this video to draw the unsaved to Jesus!

[@theologywithseth]

Thank you! I pray the same

[@S.Her.]

I appreciate this message. I have been studying this same topic this week in preparation for a follow up conversation with a JW friend. Only the Holy Spirit can take the blinders off her eyes, but I hope sharing these Scriptures will get her thinking.

[@theologywithseth]

And the Holy Spirit is definitely pleased to use Scripture to do so! I'll be praying for a wonderful conversation! If you can remember, let me know how it goes!

[@S.Her.]

@@theologywithseth We talked for 2.5 hours! Read through a lot of Scripture together. She continued to go through the WT arguments, and I continued to show her context and Scriptures that refute them. When she wasn't sure how to respond, she'd read an explanation from a WT publication. (She really knows her WT material, but also says she enjoys challenging questions.) She kept going back to the topic of heavenly hope and the earthly hope, even though none of the passages we read actually mentioned that. She's very eager to have a discussion with me about paradise earth. I'm pretty sure she thinks that will convince me that there's something better than living with Jesus for eternity. We are going to continue talking...

[@theologywithseth]

@S.Her. That's fantastic! It sounds like the conversations are going well. Keep praying for her and I'll keep praying as well! It's very encouraging to see my viewers putting their faith into action and reaching out to JW's like that. Great work!

[@Janice-d-witnessing]

Excellent job! I find these are all things that the average JW is trained to not think about.

[@thammbone227]

After Jesus' death, he was resurrected as a spirit being. 1 Peter 3:18 Holman Christian Standard Bible For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, that He might bring you to God, after being put to death in the fleshly realm but made alive in the spiritual realm. English Standard Version For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but MADE ALIVE IN THE SPIRIT, Verse 19 (ESV) continues, "in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison" from the time of Noah. The Holman Christian Standard Bible says (1 Peter 3:19), "IN THAT STATE He also went and made a proclamation to the spirits in prison: What state? A SPIRIT. The apostles understood Jesus was resurrected as a spirit or spirit being. 1 Corinthians 15:45 Berean Literal Bible So also it has been written: "The first man Adam became into a living soul;" the last Adam into a LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT. Jesus was raised as a spirit being. However, if you look into the Hebrew scriptures or OT, spirit beings could go from a spirit state to a fleshly state. There are numerous examples of messengers (angels) of a God Almighty becoming flesh. In Genesis 19:1-3 the angels ate with Lot because they came in the flesh. Also, angels, sons of God, had relations with human women and bore children (Genesis 6). Take note that these angels did not die in the flood as thousands of years later, Jesus preached to them, as 1 Peter 3:19 shows. They changed back to their natural spirit state. Jesus, upon his resurrection, had the ability to go between two different states, flesh and spirit, but only spirit can enter into heaven. This is why he appeared to his disciples in one way in the upper room before his ascension to heaven in Luke 24:39 but appeared to the apostles John completely differently in Revelation 1:13-16 after his ascension. 1 Corinthians 15:50 Berean Literal Bible Now I say this, brothers, that FLESH and BLOOD is NOT ABLE to inherit the kingdom of God, nor does decay inherit immortality. 1 Corinthians 15:38-40 (ESV) 38 But God gives it a body as he has chosen, and to each kind of seed its own body. 39 For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish. 40 There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is of one kind, and the glory of the earthly is of another. This heavenly body is a spirit, not flesh or blood of any kind. The apostle Paul says: "He died for all, so that they who live might no longer live for themselves, but for him who died and rose again on their behalf. Therefore from now on we know no one according to the flesh. Although WE HAVE KNOWN CHRIST ACCORDING TO THE FLESH, YET NOW WE KNOW HIM IN THIS WAY NO LONGER." (2 Corinthians 5:15-16) Why? Because he is a spirit. Also, Hebrews 10:10 reports that Jesus sacrificed his physical body-thus for him to take it back would be to cancel the salvific transaction to God. *Galatians 1:1, 11-12 English Standard Version 1 Paul, an apostle-NOT FROM MEN NOR THROUGH MAN, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead- 11 For I would have you know, brothers, that the gospel that was preached by me is not man's gospel. 12 For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ. Romans 6:5 5 If we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we will certainly also be united with him in the likeness of his resurrection. Paul was referring to Christ's glorified spiritual body. Remember that Paul's first encounter with Christ was on the road to Damascus after Jesus ascended to heaven (Acts 9). All the NT writers understood Jesus was raised as a spirit. Go on Quora and look up T.Hamm77 and Sergio Semer Betyashan. They debunk a lot of these guys' claims.

[@כמובבית-ל1ג]

Thanks a lot! This was really helpful! 😊 I am looking forward to my next conversation with JWs, in order to talk about Jesus' resurrection.

[@theologywithseth]

I'll be praying for a spiritually productive conversation! Thank you for watching

[@thammbone227]

After Jesus' death, he was resurrected as a spirit being. 1 Peter 3:18 Holman Christian Standard Bible For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, that He might bring you to God, after being put to death in the fleshly realm but made alive in the spiritual realm. English Standard Version For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but MADE ALIVE IN THE SPIRIT, Verse 19 (ESV) continues, "in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison" from the time of Noah. The Holman Christian Standard Bible says (1 Peter 3:19), "IN THAT STATE He also went and made a proclamation to the spirits in prison: What state? A SPIRIT. The apostles understood Jesus was resurrected as a spirit or spirit being. 1 Corinthians 15:45 Berean Literal Bible So also it has been written: "The first man Adam became into a living soul;" the last Adam into a LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT. Jesus was raised as a spirit being. However, if you look into the Hebrew scriptures or OT, spirit beings could go from a spirit state to a fleshly state. There are numerous examples of messengers (angels) of a God Almighty becoming flesh. In Genesis 19:1-3 the angels ate with Lot because they came in the flesh. Also, angels, sons of God, had relations with human women and bore children (Genesis 6). Take note that these angels did not die in the flood as thousands of years later, Jesus preached to them, as 1 Peter 3:19 shows. They changed back to their natural spirit state. Jesus, upon his resurrection, had the ability to go between two different states, flesh and spirit, but only spirit can enter into heaven. This is why he appeared to his disciples in one way in the upper room before his ascension to heaven in Luke 24:39 but appeared to the apostles John completely differently in Revelation 1:13-16 after his ascension. 1 Corinthians 15:50 Berean Literal Bible Now I say this, brothers, that FLESH and BLOOD is NOT ABLE to inherit the kingdom of God, nor does decay inherit immortality. 1 Corinthians 15:38-40 (ESV) 38 But God gives it a body as he has chosen, and to each kind of seed its own body. 39 For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish. 40 There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is of one kind, and the glory of the earthly is of another. This heavenly body is a spirit, not flesh or blood of any kind. The apostle Paul says: "He died for all, so that they who live might no longer live for themselves, but for him who died and rose again on their behalf. Therefore from now on we know no one according to the flesh. Although WE HAVE KNOWN CHRIST ACCORDING TO THE FLESH, YET NOW WE KNOW HIM IN THIS WAY NO LONGER." (2 Corinthians 5:15-16) Why? Because he is a spirit. Also, Hebrews 10:10 reports that Jesus sacrificed his physical body-thus for him to take it back would be to cancel the salvific transaction to God. *Galatians 1:1, 11-12 English Standard Version 1 Paul, an apostle-NOT FROM MEN NOR THROUGH MAN, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead- 11 For I would have you know, brothers, that the gospel that was preached by me is not man's gospel. 12 For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ. Romans 6:5 5 If we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we will certainly also be united with him in the likeness of his resurrection. Paul was referring to Christ's glorified spiritual body. Remember that Paul's first encounter with Christ was on the road to Damascus after Jesus ascended to heaven (Acts 9). All the NT writers understood Jesus was raised as a spirit.

[@okparachimaijem4561]

Thank you, Seth. I am glad for this series. It has been beneficial and would help many too. I am Bro Chima, a Nigerian, but resident in the UK. Some years ago, in 2007 to be precise I was somewhere waiting on the Lord, for baptism in the Holy Ghost. It was accompanied by fasting and prayer. On the 12th of a certain month, I had this glorious experience. That blessed morning, I woke up with this electric spasm of joy overflowing my heart. I wondered while jerked up from my sleep: Is this it? Oh is this it? It was a beautiful morning. On the 14th of that month, while continuing my fasting and prayer, my eyes were opened and I saw three male-like figures all dressed in black swiftly jump into my room. Simultaneously, I had a voice that firmly said: Collect that Bible from him. All hell broke loose. I entered into this tormenting darkness. I could read several chapters of the Bible with joy in one day. But afterwards, it took me several hours to read a single chapter (I recall Genesis chapter 1), with fiery sweat all over my body. I had gone out as a "missionary", trusting God to use me to bring a mighty revival to a local community popular for witchcraft. But now, I started doubting the Bible. Oh, it was hellish. I was fiery with preaching and could kneel for hours in sweet communion with the Lord. But things changed. Preaching looked like Pharoah's chariot in the Red Sea. I lack words to describe that hellish encounter. But, one thing was central: These spirits were well versed in the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses doctrines. They were knowledgeable and could literarily teach and give the same understanding a witness would give for what they teach. So one of those days, I said come on, you said the Holy Ghost is an impersonal force, but you are not an impersonal being, and you are supposed to be the Holy Ghost. That was how their hold started cracking gradually. You see, the denial of the death of Christ on the cross, for instance, was instigated by these spirits. They hate the sight of the cross or the mention of it. It was a battle with a legion of hell and you could see everything that makes for their defeat by the gospel, craftily denied by the Jehohah's Witnesses Org. They hate their eternal fate in hell and could disdain one for believing that is their eternal destiny. And for Jesus, the man they claimed died forever? That is their wish and that is what they teach these captives of theirs. Of the present legion of spirits released from hell in this age, the spirit ( a strong man indeed) of the Watch Tower Society would play a critical role in overthrowing the faith of many and their subsequent destruction in hell. Beyond these videos, believers must learn to bind those forces and limit their operations here, on earth. With prayers, their progress can be impeded, and the truth of the gospel given liberty to reach the souls of many. And for you, a JWORG member, with all the earnestness of soul, by the mercy of Jesus, your God, who you have been taught to hate, seek the truth, and the Lord will come to your salvation. I have been since then an intercessor. Meeting these demons is not easy, but God will see us through.

[@melaniesandison157]

Bravo, bravo, bravo! You are awesome, Seth! I am new to your channel and a former JW. Thank God and our Lord and Savior I found the truth. The truth will definitely set us free!! Keep exposing Watchtowers lies!

[@theologywithseth]

Thank you for the encouragement! And praise God He rescued you from the Watchtower! I'm very glad you discovered the channel and I hope the content continues to bless you

[@timspencer6912]

Very helpful. Thank you for so clearly explaining what the Bible says.

[@theologywithseth]

You're very welcome! I'm glad the video has blessed you

[@GreggBuckley]

Wonderful work and Channel Seth. Thank you.

[@GreggBuckley]

Oh, and regarding Flesh and Blood John 3:2-7., (although not literally stating flesh and blood) would also support the fact that *firstborn mortal humanity* cannot enter God's Kingdom. We must be *born again, or ἄνωθεν/anōthen, Second Born from above, by the Holy Spirit* to see and enter God's Kingdom.

[@GreggBuckley]

Also, are you aware of what a *Damah* is? It is one of the ways that Father God *fulfills* Amos 3:7. (*All scripture must be fulfilled* ) It is the Hebrew of what was translated as *similitudes* in Hosea 12:10. KJV. Damahs are hidden (Proverbs 25:2) *prophetic, parallel foreshadowing's* (like Jonah 1:17. & Matthew 12:40.) With that in mind, after Yeshua had Risen, but before He was Reconciled with His Father, why did He meet with two of His disciples while they were on their way to Emmaus (Luke 24:13 - 27.), and why wasn’t He recognized by His “brothers” until, He had “broken bread” with them, (Luke 24:30, 31.)? What was fulfilled there? Well, just as Joseph (who was sent by “God to Preserve Life”) provided “Spiritual knowledge” to “us” by being a “type” of Messiah, prior to being “recognized” by his “brothers” when he had broken bread and given them earthly nutrition, before Joseph was reconciled with Jacob, his father… …Yeshua, (who was sent by “God to Preserve Life”), provided “Spiritual knowledge” to His “brothers” by being the Messiah, prior to being “recognized” by His “brothers” when He had broken bread and had given them earthly nutrition, before Yeshua was Reconciled with YHVH God, His father too. The Bible is full of Damahs.

[@theologywithseth]

Thank you! Glad it has been helpful

[@lorenzoloza2430]

lol Who resurrected Jesus according to the apostles? Acts 5:30 The God OF OUR FOREFATHERS raised up Jesus, Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of OUR FOREFATHERS, has glorified his Son and Servant, Jesus Our Father and Father of Jesus, Jehovah [the God of Abraham] gave his name to Moses in the Old Testament. Exodus 6:3 King James Bible And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

[@GreggBuckley]

@@lorenzoloza2430 Umm sorry, but you can't just cherry pick some verses as being supportive to your belief, and discard others that contradict it. God's Word is not a menu, and must be utilized collectively. Regarding Exodus 6:3., I don't understand your point? Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob knew God as וְאֵל שַׁדַּי (El Shaddai) not יְהוָה (YHVH). What's your point?

[@Kjs3vw]

I find the account of Lazarus in John 11 explains it best. Lazarus was raised and walked out of the very tomb he was laid in; wearing the very wrappings he had been clothed in. Jesus told the people to unwrap him. Why would this account be explained this way if Jesus resurrection was to be as a spirit person? Jesus was showing them that he could resurrect people back to their original selves having been healed. It was a miracle he was using to show the people he truly was the Son of God. He proved this to his disciples when he himself walked out of the tomb in which he was laid. Later being transformed into a spiritual body when he rose to heaven. We know this can happen because 1 Thes 4:17 describes people, who are living, being caught away in the clouds to meet the Lord. God is capable of anything and everything! Again I quote John 20:29 “Happy are those who have not seen and yet believe.”

[@rhondahart2416]

Amen

[@jenniferjohns5966]

Awesome video!!❤

[@theologywithseth]

Thank you, Jennifer! Hope you're doing well

[@Chenzo-sb6zu]

Good point about the blood and the ransom sacrifice. It was His life, His blood, that atonement as the life is in the blood. Also interesting that at His resurrection in Luke 24 Jesus said a spirit does not have flesh and bone as you see I have. He didn't say flesh and blood as the blood was given up.

[@theologywithseth]

That's right! Great observation

[@Believer0003]

Thank you so much!!

[@theologywithseth]

You're very welcome! Thank you for watching

[@Fjmaster2023]

Brilliant video

[@theologywithseth]

Thank you so much!

[@serafin1352]

❤ well done

[@theologywithseth]

Thank you!!

[@phaedragalloway4544]

Besides the interesting JW research, I like the reminder to beware anyone who just makes up stuff like it's true doctrine. The Word of God has been preserved for a reason. It tells us of the one and only power to save. ...the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body... (Philippians 3:20-21) As a child of God, a follower of Jesus Christ, I am looking forward to this!

[@theologywithseth]

Same! Thanks for commenting

[@richbaker7187]

You know you are striking a nerve when you not only bring out the normal JW trolls, but you even attract a few who don't claim to be JW, but will argue against you anyway, just because the truth hurts them.

[@michellebernal5668]

Yup and the fact that I find JWs commenting on “apostate false videos” shows they’re already questioning or really don’t believe but their cognitive dissonance hurts their ego too much

[@theologywithseth]

That's true! It always amazes me when I see people who are neither JW's nor Christians commenting on these videos. Like you said, Christ's resurrection must be striking a nerve with some people. I just pray that God would give them ears to hear and a receptive heart!

[@RowanTasmanian]

Brilliant observation Rich. As always you are spot on. God bless mate.

[@phillipsugwas]

The problem is that these poor people, when faced with the plain meaning of words - where the meaning does not accord with their views- have nothing to fall back on. In their case despite it qwacking like a duck, and walking like a duck, it can't be a duck , we believe its a cat( or anything else they can come up with.) As a result they either change the subject or leave.

[@RowanTasmanian]

@@phillipsugwas So true Phillip, that's a great observation. Might I add to that, they will go away from the discussion feeling like they have been persecuted, which only enforces their stance that they must be correct. as their handlers told them they would be persecuted . a real dichotomy.

[@ojdavis6978]

There is a perfect explanation of why the JW's believe Jesus was spiritually resurrected... All you have to do is look back at Charles Russell's books... If I'm not mistaken I believe the plan of ages and also the finished mystery had embroidered on the front of the book the winged disc Sun God... Which was a symbol of Osiris... In fact there are old pictures of his assembly Halls that had that symbol above the stage... Charles taze Russell was enthralled in the Egyptian pyramids and the Egyptian culture... If you look up Osiris he was chopped up in 14 pieces and his wife isis found 13 pieces and put them back together so therefore he was not physically resurrected but instead spiritually resurrected to the spirit realm... Charles Russell was pagan at heart and he implemented teachings from those pagan religions...

[@Mk-xw1yj]

Yes, JWs still believe all that. They also drive Ford Model T automobiles and wear top hats.

[@ojdavis6978]

@@Mk-xw1yj I take it you're being sarcastic ... If you were not being sarcastic I'm sorry about this comment... You must have a feeble mind... To not understand what I was talking about... Just because they do not preach the stupid pyramid crap anymore does not mean that they do not hold on to the teaching that was derived from the pyramid teachings... I would like to know that you knew what I was talking about and was just trying to be funny... But then again people with feeble minds either believe in cult teachings or sympathize with cult teachings...

[@RowanTasmanian]

G'day mate, it's very true what you stated about Russell. Did you know the WT said Russell was and is without blemish, That Russell wore a Roman Toga on his deathbed and then buried under a Pyramid and what's really bad was Russell was going to be worshipped by men. "He chose, therefore, a symbol which we could afterwards interpret to speak practically the same thing spoken by the Apostle Paul. By WEARING THE TOGA BROTHER RUSSELL IN effect said, "I have fought the good fight; I have triumphed and shall be received as a member of the Royal Family of Heaven." WT 1 December 1916 p 366 "Truly it can be said that PASTOR RUSSELL'S CHARACTER WAS AND IS WITHOUT BLEMISH. HE WAS THE CLEANEST, PUREST AND BEST MAN..." WT 1 Dec 1916 p 375 "Truly these words fittingly apply to our beloved Brother and Pastor! Charles Taze Russell, thou hast, by the Lord, been crowned a king; and through the everlasting ages thy name shall be known amongst the people, and thy enemies shall come and WORSHIP AT THY FEET." WT 1 Dec 1916 page 377 This man was indeed very pagan

[@ojdavis6978]

@@RowanTasmanian I will see if I can find those articles... I know about the pyramid at his burial place but I did not know anything about him wearing a toga... Thank you for the information... Yeah even Russell said that I left the Presbyterian Church and became an atheist... Then he came across the Adventist... Which were just as nutty as he was... I'm not too sure how in the world these people do not know what words mean... When Jesus said that it's not for you to get to know dates and times... But they pressed forward anyways and failed miserably in their false prophecies... But yet amassed a major following... It's crazy

[@RowanTasmanian]

@@ojdavis6978 It's so true. The fact they put Russell words as important as the words of Jesus is awful. "Those in the truth got there by the ministry of Russell. To repudiate his work is equivalent to a repudiation of the Lord. WT 5/1/1922, p. 132” Even on his deathbed, Russell had an amazing ego, he stated "I have kept the faith; henceforth there is laid up for me a Crown of Righteousness" WT 1 December 1916 p 365 This bloke had tickets on himself And as you stated these people don't seem to understand words and what they mean. If my Pastor said anything like this, he'd be out of there. God bless.

[@superkingstreet]

Greatt work brother! Question, have you studied apologists such as Cliff & Stuart Knecktle, Frank Turek, or William Lane Craig? Small details and evidence you use are similar to some that they use. If so thats super cool bc I watch them all the time! God Bless!

[@theologywithseth]

I sure have! They do a phenomenal job at defending the truth of Christianity, and the resurrection in particular, and I've learned a lot from them. Thank you for watching!

[@richbaker7187]

@Scott48-w9i I can rip verses out of their context and make up my own interpretations also. In fact, you not only ripped it out of context, but only took part of the verse. But that's really not what you are doing at all, because that would give you to much credit, since you are just a troll.

[@richbaker7187]

@Scott48-w9i Why are you such a troll? Do you get off on it?

[@richbaker7187]

@Scott48-w9i Verse 39..But NOW Christ IS risen.... I know you know this, so it just begs the question.....why are you a troll?

[@richbaker7187]

@Scott48-w9i Yup, troll. "Now" is present tense, meaning He already rose from the dead.

[@GabrielDMST]

What song is the intro music? Also, thank you for the materials presented.

[@gnitsaf]

I spoke once with a Jehovah's Witness, an elder. His explanation for when Jesus appeared before Thomas, showing the holes in his body, that he was just appearing to comfort him and convince him, that he was deceiving him.

[@sarahstevens3050]

Great video!!

[@theologywithseth]

Thank you!!!

[@DannyG-dr3qo]

Beautiful video thanks Seth , can I get your email I’m one of JWs and was baptized recently and I have more questions. Thank you again 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@theologywithseth]

Hi there! You can email me at [e-mail]

[@RowanTasmanian]

Dear Seth this person Universal Man just deleted approx 40 comments made by him and many others. How is this possible ? All comments have been deleted. Can you please advise how this person has taken control of comments on your channel.

[@theologywithseth]

Hi Rowan, thanks for reaching out. KZbin allows all users to delete their own comments at any time, and if your comment happened to be one that started a thread, all those following comments in the thread will be deleted too, since KZbin won't allow a thread to exist without an original comment to attach it to, if that makes sense. I know it can be frustrating, especially if you're in the middle of a conversation, but unfortunately it's not something I can prevent. Usually it's not an issue since very few people delete their own comments, but @universalman apparently does sometimes. I'm sorry for any inconvenience!

[@RowanTasmanian]

@@theologywithseth no worries Seth, it’s just I’ve never seen that before. I loved your response to Mr Universal. He’s so quick with the name calling and downright slander of people. Thank you so much for your wonderful videos. They are extremely well thought out and are top notch historical Christianity doctrine. Thanks again Seth and God bless. C Btw you’ll find this funny, I’m currently listening to J S Bach Johannesburg Passion . Absolutely brilliant on Harmonia Mundi label.

[@theologywithseth]

I really appreciate that! Thank you for continuing to tune in! It means a lot

[@bearer-of-christ]

You have a decent understanding of jehovah's witnesses, as someone studying with jehovah's witnesses, how do you know so much about them? Is it from there website or talking with them?

[@theologywithseth]

All of the above! I would say though, if you're studying with them with the intention of possibly joining, I would encourage you to *stop* . They are a modern religious movement that teaches a number of unbiblical doctrines, and the leaders of the Watchtower have failed the biblical test of a prophet, which I document in my video linked below. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p52qdpSFjqalqbM

[@benz8421]

Do no become a JW. They are not Christian. They may appear to have all the answers but most of their doctrine come from picking out random verses which seem to say one thing whilst completely ignoring other passages. The leadership is the god of the JW. “Jehovah” is actually the watchtower

[@kendallbartsch8181]

As a former Jehovahs witness, please I caution you, do not join them. They hold their watchtower and governing body higher than the scriptures. They will very deceitfully tell you what the bible "really teaches" through cherry-picked verses that get explained by their literature instead of letting the bible explain the bible. Please pray on this and earnestly seek God's direction. God bless.

[@phillipsugwas]

​@@benz8421 Note their baptismal oath

[@rhondahart2416]

@@Mr.DC3.1914 Oh hi DC , I wondered when you would show up and start trolling! How are you?

[@RG-qn2qm]

Jesus was beaten so bad his face was deformed.

[@Fjmaster2023]

Lazarus was dead for four days and his body obviously was already experiencing decay.. The power that rose him up,perfected his entire body..

[@phillipsugwas]

​​@@Fjmaster2023 Nope. His body was witheld from decaying. 1. What was Jesus praying about whilst waiting before returning to Bethany? He was praying that the body would not decay. 2.Why does Jesus pray this strange prayer of thanks to the father , standing outside the tomb of Lazarus? Because when they rolled the stone away there was no smell!. His prayer was answered. He knew Lazarus was alive.Before he came out of the tomb. ( significance of" give him something to eat..... ")

[@Fjmaster2023]

@@phillipsugwas lol.... You have made very bold statement.. Assumption doesn't work with theology...provide your proof that he was praying for Lazarus body not to decay?.. If you don't have any scriptural reference of that.....throw that assumption far away

[@rhondahart2416]

@@phillipsugwas Wow that's all I can say to that .

[@One-Ruler-1Victor]

The answer to the question of the title of the video is... Yes I'm listening now to video now.

[@rolandocantu6736]

Jesus was resurrected in a spirit body. -- Peter 3:18 says, "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the sake of the unrighteous, that he might lead you to God. Put to death in the flesh, he was brought to life in the spirit". During the 40 days he was on earth after his resurrection he materialized different human bodies. 4:06

[@Terrylb285]

If Jesus is not risen the we are still in our sins and we are false witnesses. 1 Corinthians 15. Read the whole chapter.

[@WilfredoPastera]

Where can you see a normal person roaming around with a fresh gaping wound on his side?

[@Fjmaster2023]

Because it was still a body of flesh but now immortal,now glorified(cannot die,cannot experience weakness)... That the difference..nice try

[@Fjmaster2023]

@@Mr.DC3.1914 Get away troll!!you not welcome

[@Fjmaster2023]

@@Mr.DC3.1914 The life of your mortal,corruptible,natural body is the Blood Lev 17:11 Question:what is the life that powers the immortal,incorruptible,glorified body...? If you get it correctly then your eyes are now opened

[@Fjmaster2023]

@@Mr.DC3.1914 I ask you a question...you failed the answer hence you remain blind.. Go to my question and try again..this time read slowly to get what am asking you

[@Fjmaster2023]

@@Mr.DC3.1914 Again,read my question..try and comprehend it and give me the accurate answer.. Honestly,you are funny...lol,you can read very well.. Yet you read one thing and answer a totally different thing..

[@CountJeffula]

Or maybe it was we literary!

[@YehovahsWorshipper]

The "days of [Jesus'] flesh" is all long gone (Heb. 5:7) Jws don't belive that When he was resurrection as a spirit-person he leaves his body on earth.. LIESS The flesh was changed into a spirit body. Not that Jesus leaves his body.

[@sarahstevens3050]

Not first 😢

[@youtubecommenter4069]

Jesus' resurrection was never physical. He looked forward, as he said in prayer to God while on earth, to receive "the *glory* which I had with You *before* the world was." John 17:5 (NKJV). As the first from resurrection, (Acts 26:23) Jesus described "those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead" as "equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection." Luke 35, 36 (NKJV). As human, "Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels," Hebrews 2:9 (NKJV) would not have remained that way after his death & *resurrection* hence the false view of the resurrection of Jesus as human fulfills what is said in warning, that God "will work a work in your days Which you would not believe, though it were told you." Habakkuk 1:5 (NKJV), (Acts 13:41). This presenter is wrong once again.

[@justinporter458]

Before Jesus ,the Egyptian God Isirus rose from the dead, then the Roman god Mythros rose from the dead. Jesus isn't original. ❤

[@theologywithseth]

I've investigated that claim before! I'll link my findings below for you if you're interested... kzbin.info/www/bejne/fX6YkmWQe92hhdE

[@owenmccallum6076]

Do you celebrate. X mas

[@cesarguadarrama8732]

Was "Spiritual"Hebrews 9:24 and many other scriptures. His return as a human body to his disciples was not the same as his previous 33 years of human life when he was a real human

[@leejohnson6328]

it is not a matter of physical and spiritual but what body form did he take on. there is a physical and a spiritual. Jesus gave up the physical for us for he said unless you eat and drink of his flesh and blood. So he gave that up for us he is not taking it back for that is for our salvation. the only thing he could take up is the spirit body the most powerful body that is of the spirit. he is a life giving spirit the bible says. if he took the physical up then that would mean he took back his sacrifice and that is not going to happen. flesh and blood cannot enter the heavens so therefore the only body he could have is of the spirit

[@dirkfirkle73]

Seth debunked your "point" in this video. You should watch the video and then challenge his point if you still do not agree with him.

[@leejohnson6328]

@dirkfirkle73 the Bible is clear Jesus is a life giving spirit 1 Corinthians 15:45

[@dirkfirkle73]

@@leejohnson6328This was addressed in the video. You need to take the verse in context instead of just reciting the Watchtower's stock answer. Here is the verse immediately preceding the verse you gave me: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 1 Cor. 15:44. Here is the verse immediately after the verse you gave me: Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. - 1 Cor. 15:46 Please read the whole chapter to see that Paul is talking about a corruptible natural body versus an incorruptible spiritual body.

[@dirkfirkle73]

@@leejohnson6328 Read the verses immediately before & after your verse (1 Cor. 15:45). You will see that Paul is talking about a spiritual body (in contrast to a natural body) and he is not talking about a spirit.

[@leejohnson6328]

@dirkfirkle73 it says Jesus is a life giving spirit. There are two form factors physical and spiritual. Jesus gave up the flesh for us and he will not take it back. He is now in the spirit.

[@davidscott2809]

In this account, the door was locked. How did Jesus get in? Jesus had the ability to materialise a physical body, as Bourne out in the garden of gethsemene, where Mary Magdalene didn't recognize him, as he had a different body. 1 cor. 15 :50 flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom. 1cor.15:44,45. Raised up as a spirit.

[@johnhelms1485]

Does flesh and blood inherit the kingdom at Matthew 25:34?

[@davidscott2809]

@johnhelms1485 if you are referring to those who will go to heaven, no. 1cor. 15:44- 46, 49, 51, 52. Those who will be resurrected back on paradise earth, obviously will have a physical body.

[@johnhelms1485]

@@davidscott2809 at Matthew 25:34 the sheep who are at Christ’s right side will “inherit the kingdom” according to what Jesus said. The Jehovah’s Witness organization interprets that the sheep in that verse are people who will live forever on a paradise earth with flesh and blood bodies. Yet according to Christ they will “inherit the kingdom.” How can this be possible if “flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom”?

[@davidscott2809]

@johnhelms1485 in 1cor.15 Paul is referring to the heavenly kingdom. The great crowd don't inherit the kingdom as such, much like the strangers and alien residents in the old law, although not Israel, they enjoyed most of the protection and benefits of the law. The kingdom is the government that will rule over heaven and earth. 1cor 15 makes a clear distinction between the animal and spiritual.

[@johnhelms1485]

@@davidscott2809 a person either inherits the kingdom or they do not. There is no biblical basis to say a person inherits portions (only heavenly/only earthly) of the kingdom. According to what Christ said at Matthew 25:34 those at Christ’s right hand “inherit the kingdom”….full stop. According to you, they “don’t inherit the kingdom” but instead they will get the “benefits” of the kingdom.

[@barrywilson4276]

As no one ever reported seeing Jesus during his time. He is only spiritual not material. A grand mythic being.

[@Mathetes1]

Matthew, John, Peter and Paul all gave eyewitness accounts of seeing Jesus alive after he was crucified and buried: • Matthew - Matthew 28:16-30. • John - John 19:35; 20;19, 26; 21:4-14, 20-24; Revelation 1:11-18. • Peter - 1 Peter 1:21. • Paul - 1 Corinthians 15:8.

[@watchtowerdefence571]

JWs believe what the Bible teaches and the *Bibles definitions* are. Yes JWs DO believe in the resurrection of Jesus. First of all if you want to critique JWs do so with our modern literature not publications from nearly 70 years ago and longer. John 2 posses no challenge for us. It is simple and clear when ALL of the Bible is taken in context not one item on it's own Yes JWs do believe in the Biblical definition of deity, so, we understand what it means for the deity of Jesus. The Biblical definition is different to trinitarian definition. NO where does the Bible teach the immortality of the soul. The soul IS the body (Genesis 2:7) all animals ARE souls (Gen 1:21; 2:19) Every breathing thing is a soul (Genesis 9:10'12) "I will raise it up." Jesus could speak of doing so in a prophetic sense. Because of the his faithful life course and dyeing without sin he could prophetically say that he, himself had the authority to be resurrected. The wording of what is recorded after his resurrection by the inspired writers, shows that he did not raise himself. These inspired witters all use language that shows that someone else raised Jesus. No one records that Jesus raised himself as they would have if that had happened. Jesus did not literally and psychically raise himself from the dead. The father (who alone is God) raised Jesus. Now when the accounts of people seeing Jesus after his resurrection are read *_CARE FULLY,_* one soon learns that Jesus appeared in different bodies. That is becase he was raised as a life givng spirit (1 Cor 15:45; 1 Tim 3:16) A body of flesh needs blood. Flesh can not be sustauned without it. (Leviticus 17:11) . . .For the life of the flesh is in the blood,. . . Jesus perfectly represents Adam and what Adam had lost. For the ransom sacrifices to be of value, a perfect MAN had to die to balance the scales of justice because ALL of Gods ways are just

[@phillipsugwas]

The GB would be proud of this sophistry. Consider your oft repeated statement that your adherents take the whole bible into account (sic). The implication is that others don't. That is a presumptious standpoint to adopt. Based on what? Christianity is a monotheistic religion. The acceptance of the trinity is implicit in the biographies and letters of the NT. Gnostic thinking is not Christian thinking. Christians don't worship or do homage to anyone except God. And that should be apparent in all their statements of faith.

[@johnhelms1485]

@@watchtowerdefence571 so what you’re saying is that following his resurrection, Jesus appeared to his closest followers in different bodies with different appearances…and he did this to prove to them that it was really him? And to prove that he was actually resurrected as an invisible spirit creature?

[@ravikeller9626]

It’s truly amazing to me that Jesus can literally say verbatim that HE will raise HIMSELF from the dead, but then Jehovah’s witnesses will come along and say he didn’t. That’s a dead give-away that they don’t care what the Bible says. They only care what the Watchtower says and will always side with that, no matter how badly it contradicts Holy Scripture plainly written right in front of their faces

[@watchtowerdefence571]

@@phillipsugwas The idea that JWs take the whole Bible into account is based on the idea that other religions do not. They take a text here and there and do not consider what the rest of the Bible says. That is obvious from this video. That affect their views on what the soul is what hell is who or what God is and who or what Jesus is etc. Other religions who claim to be followers of Jesus start in the New Testament _(the Greek scriptures)_ and come to conclusions as to what the Bible is about. Then they try to fit what the early part of the Bible says into their flawed conclusions as to what Jesus taught. Jesus based what he taught on what is commonly called the Old Testament _(the Hebrew scriptures)._ If one wants to truly understand what Jesus taught, one MUST start in Genesis and come forward. Build a foundation of the Bible is about. From Genesis we start to learn who God is, why his purpose for the mankind is, why Jesus had to come, why Jesus could not be a “God man” but fully human, that there is no immorality of the soul nor a fiery hell etc. When we have a solid foundation to work with, all of what Jesus taught falls into place. The Bible is one harmonious book. Most religions who call themselves Christian worship Jesus as God and that is heretical, blasphemous idea. Jesus never taught he was God nor did he teach he was equal to God. Jesus had a God and worshipped a God. That God is his father.

[@watchtowerdefence571]

@@johnhelms1485 Basically yes. Jesus can not take on his human body again. He took on different appearances. Mary thought he was the gardener. (John 20:15). When the apostates were out fishing they did not recognise Jesus staging on the beach by sight but by word (John 21:4). He appeared to them to show that he had been raised up even though it was a spiritula body 1 Corinthians 15:44 “It is sown a natural body; it is *raised a spiritual body. *If there is a natural body, there *is also a spiritual body.”* (ESV) The sacrificial death of Jesus was modelled on the scarifies that the Jews gave. The blood that was the life of the flesh (Leviticus 17:10-14) had to be poured out. Once a year the high priest had to enter the Holy of Hollies to present a blood sacrifice before Jehovah _(The God of Israel and Jesus)_ (Hebrews 10:1-5) When Jesus died the curtain to that Holy of Hollies was torn apart Matthew 27:51 "And behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook and the rocks were split." (NASB) The old way of offering sacrifices was finished. Jesus is now the high priest Because blood is considered to be equivalent to life instead of being condemned because one broke Jehovah’s commandments, a repentant sinner in ancient Israel could offer an animal sacrifice on God’s altar. (Leviticus 4:27-31) This sacrifice atoned for his sins but only in a provisional way. Blood sacrifices had to offered often because animal blood (life) was not the equivalent of mans blood (life) As used in the Bible, “atonement” conveys the thought of “exchange” or “cover,” as the right lid, for example, would properly cover a container. Of course, no animal could perfectly “cover,” or atone for, the sins of a human. Animal sacrifices did, however, provide a shadow of the perfect atonement sacrifice to come. (Hebrews 10:1- 4.) That atonement was provided “through the *offering of the body of Jesus Christ* once for all time. .” (Hebrews 10:10 [NASB]) It was not just the blood of Jesus. It was his BODY as well. Christ’s perfect human life, represented by his “precious blood (Leviticus 17:10-14), like that of an unblemished and spotless lamb,” corresponded exactly to the life that Adam lost. (1 Peter 1:19) Thus, in an exquisitely beautiful and loving way, perfect justice was satisfied and our “everlasting deliverance” was made possible.-Hebrews 9:11, 12; John 3:16; Revelation 7:14. How could Jesus offer up his body ONCE FOR ALL TIME, and the take that same body back again? One can iot pat of an item and keep that item and demand your money back. If want tour many back you give back the item. Jesus was raised as a spirit. Humans have a fleshly body. Heavenly beings have a different sort of body 1 Corinthians 15:45-49 “So also it is written: “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING PERSON.” The last Adam was a *life-giving spirit.* 46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual. 47 The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven. 48 As is the earthy one, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly one, so also are those who are heavenly. 49 Just as we have borne the image of the earthy, we will also bear the image of the heavenly. (NASB)

[@Mk-xw1yj]

Good on you, universalman. Seth’s use of an antiquated document “Studies in the Scriptures” without any caveats is not cricket, as the English say. He does not even explain properly what happened to Jesus’ body. Did he go to heaven with it, or did he leave it on the Earth. And, pray tell, what happened to Moses’ body when he died? And his explanation as to why Jesus was not recognised when he returned from the dead is unconvincing. For example, did Mary Magdalene not recognise Jesus’ voice? Oh yes, it was probably TOO DARK for her to recognise his voice. Ha! These explanations are so weak, and I am really surprised how people who comment on his video seem to have very scant knowledge of Jehovah’s Witnesses’ beliefs. Of course, Jehovah’s Witnesses are an easy target, because all their beliefs are clearly set out in searchable publications that are readily available online, whereas it would be quite impossible to find a coherent belief among Protestant churches, such is the total confusion that reigns among them. Seth is a very nice guy, and I am sincerely convinced that he is well-meaning, but he fails to convince me in this case, especially when he claims that the VERY widely used expression “raised IN the spirit“ (1 Peter 3:18) is NOT the majority translation of that expression, but that in his church they use the rarely used expression “raised BY the spirit”, which he doesn’t even bother to explain.. I am quite surprised at the poor quality of this exegesis. And Jehovah’s Witnesses do not claim to be experts at exegesis. The only claim they can make is that they preach the basic gospel message, which is the kingdom of God. Jehovah’s Witnesses preach a lot, so they don’t have the time to engage in exegetical “inutiae”, as one pundit commented, and that is not by any means their speciality. Generally speaking, they certainly don’t have the time to study God’s word in a cozy library all day, like Bart Erman. And I would go so far as to suggest that if so-called Christians are not prepared to go out joyfully in inclement weather and sacrifice their time, energy and money to preach the gospel like Jesus did and talk about the kingdom of God like Jehovah’s Witnesses do, in other words to love people to the point that it hurts, they should think twice before they criticise Jehovah’s Witnesses about their particular exegesis. Yes, everyone can see that Jehovah’s Witnesses do what they do out of love, and not to get brownie points. If a church that calls itself Christian is not prepared to preach the good news, using the holy spirit, then why would God reward it with a correct understanding of the word of God?

[@shojwiebelhaus1391]

Why would God reward it with a correct understanding of the word of God? You are assuming you are right and using that as justification to prove you are right. Once again Jehovah Witnesses prove the only reasoning they have is circular

[@shojwiebelhaus1391]

@Scott48-w9i is English your first language because that was a bit incoherent. I agree that's what the Watchtower says, the question is have they given sufficient evidence to prove they are correct and disprove their opposition

[@Mk-xw1yj]

@@shojwiebelhaus1391 All I have to say is that JWs preach that the Kingdom of God is the message of Jesus. Is that circular reasoning?

[@shojwiebelhaus1391]

@@Mk-xw1yj that at least isn't circular reasoning, now the question becomes is the message they preach the same message that Jesus preached and told his disciples Two classes of Christians where only one has the Holy Spirit? No Hell or eternal punishment for the wicked? Two different locations in the afterlife for the righteous with only some people dwell with God in heaven? No physical restriction of Jesus? Jesus is not God? The Holy Spirit isn't a person? Works based salvation? If the Watchtower isn't right on any one of these issues all their other claims come into question and we must ask are they preaching the real message of the kingdom of Jesus?

[@johnhelms1485]

@Scott48-w9ithe body of mortality is what was sacrificed. What was raised up is the body of immortality.

[@universalman5861]

DISCLAIMER: This post was first made with the error that Seth did not deal with the updated JW position. Because the video unfairly dealt with that position in literally the last 3 minutes which I did not watch on the first posting, I assumed that it did not treat with it at all. Since I have publicly retracted those statements, and that thread became cluttered with persons dealing with a fringe element and not commenting on John 2 and Luke 24, I have decided to delete the errant earlier post . DISCLAIMER: I'm removing the words 'deceptive' from my view of the video. While I still hold that it was unfair to wait until the last 3 minutes for Seth to treat with the JW position, I do not have sufficient evidence to assert that he did so out of malicious intent. Seth's first 'proof' text at John 2 states Jesus himself will raise up the 'temple', i.e. his body. Yet Seth concedes at the 5:50 timestamp that "the father also has a hand in raising Jesus up" even though the text clearly states Jesus said "I". Seth even circles this "I" yet the father has a hand, effectively disqualifying his own proof text. Essentially this text proves nothing as it is not to be taken literally. In Seth's second proof text at Luke 24 the disciples believe they are seeing a spirit. Why? Not because they are seeing a ghost Seth. They are seeing a physical man but they know Jesus has died so to them this must be a spirit come back to life. At this point Seth COMPLETELY SHIFTS THE GOALPOST. The real question is not whether Jesus was resurrected bodily- he was. The real question is whether JESUS RETURNED TO HEAVEN AS A MAN. After all, even the angels in the time of Noah materialised physical bodies but when the flood came returned to heaven with heavenly bodies. I will deal with this question in a different post for the sake of brevity.

[@RowanTasmanian]

@@universalman5861 you are just another cult member who believes he has the right to control speech and delete everyone’s comments. You are a disgrace.

[@RowanTasmanian]

@@universalman5861 anyone reading these comments please be careful, Universal Man will delete all comments when he has been proven wrong and will try to rewrite history. Universal Man will slander people until he is forced to admit he got it wrong.

[@RowanTasmanian]

@@universalman5861 Dear reader, please be advised Universal Man will delete all comments on this post if he disagrees with them. He has deleted approx 40 comments from a previous post.

[@johnhelms1485]

John 2:19 *is* to be taken literally because only two verses it clarifies that the temple being referred to is Christ’s *body* in reference to his resurrection. That literally happened “as he said” (Matthew 28:6).

[@universalman5861]

@johnhelms1485 Thanks for being the first person to respond to the actual content of John 2. You are indeed correct that the temple in reference to his body is literal. Maybe I should have been more precise in underscoring that the expression "I will raise it up" is not to be taken literally. As Seth has indicated in the video the father 'has a hand' in raising Christ up. My view is that he (the father) not only 'has a hand' but it is the father alone who raises christ up. In John 2, Jesus places the agency on himself to raise himself up. In both our interpretations that "I" is not strictly referring to christ hence not to be taken literally.

[@CarolMacintosh-oi6dn]

You are wrong....the Bible says flesh and blood can not enter in heaven...his body wS destroyed ,and when he showed himself to Mary in the garden after his resurrection , how do we know this? Mary didn't recognize Jesus , thought he wS a Gardner " where have you laid him "she asked. .he then told her he was the lord.

[@ravikeller9626]

Looks like somebody didn’t watch the video!

[@theologywithseth]

Hi Carol! Your point about flesh and blood is answered at 23:00 and your point about Mary in the Garden is answered at 26:24. Now I would be more than happy to interact with you on those points, but I am going to ask that you do me the courtesy of watching my *entire* video first. Otherwise, it makes it look like you're not sincerely seeking the truth on this matter. Is that fair enough?

[@johnhelms1485]

@@CarolMacintosh-oi6dn the Bible doesn’t say flesh and blood “can not enter in heaven.” Instead, the Bible says flesh and blood “cannot inherit God’s kingdom.”