A Tour of Brightline Orlando - A Look at Florida's High Speed Rail Station

[@samtrak1204]

Thanks for the tour. I'm praying that Brigtline survives and thrives..

[@Ven100]

Having the large platforms makes perfect sense for future proofing when you consider the passenger capacity of a 10 car train as you said.

[@ncard00]

Yes, but the frequency should also expand along with the length of the trains, with double tracking from Cocoa to Orlando, so trains can run as often as possible, with Brightline lowering their prices to get their trains filled up, helping traffic congestion, reducing traffic fatallities, and boosting the cities’s economics even more, instead of only focusing on making money. It should still be profitable, but just barely.

[@Fightclubatgmail]

@@ncard00their model doesn’t require it to be profitable. They actually make their money with the mixed use development that surrounds their station which increases demand for their service and reduces car usage. The biggest issue for increased frequency is the drawbridge’s. They’re limited to a certain amount of time the bridge’s can be down until they can build new taller bridges

[@ncard00]

@@FightclubatgmailReal estate covers construction, tickets sales, bar revenue, and merch/automated shop sales cover running the service.

[@stephenkeever6029]

Thanks for filling out your coverage on this train with the full station tour!

[@docwhoshops]

Thanks for covering this

[@NickP16]

Thanks so much for the tour! I'm flying to Orlando next May, because I want to take Brightline from Orlando all the way to Miami! Between this and your previous video. It's great to know what will be waiting for me to experience next year

[@Andrewjg_89]

Love to go ride on them. They do look really nice.

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

Henry Flagler had three wives, not two! His first and third wives were the ones named Mary. The story of his wives is so interesting. Mary Harkness Flagler was the mother of his three children. After Mary died, Henry married her nurse-caregiver, Ida Alice Shourds. Ida Alice, called Alicia by her husband, was much younger than Mr. Flagler. After being declared incurably insane, Ida Alice was hospitalized. Flagler obtained a divorce and married Mary Lily Kenan, who was with him at his death in 1913 and inherited his wealth, and she suddenly died in 1917, with people believing foul play was involved So at the time this was recorded, MCO uses two different types of rolling stock for their People Mover system. Airsides 2 and 4 uses Bombardier CX-100s (or now the Innovia APM 100; also used on Miami's Metromover) while Airsides 1, 3, and the Intermodal Terminal uses Mitsubishi Crystal Movers, which is what you ended up riding. Crystal Movers are the ones used by the Macau LRT, Singapore's Punggol and Sengkang LRT, Dulles's AeroTrain, and MIA Mover and MIA Skytrain.

[@Honestcritic79]

They really should get rid of the security checkpoint to really compete with air travel.

[@ncard00]

Why? Takes only a couple of minutes at most, and people are supposed to spend a long time in the lounges anyway, not just show up 5 minutes before departure and rush through security and onto the train, this is not mass commutter transit.

[@teotik8071]

@@ncard00 If I want/need to spend long time in lounges, I'll take a plane.

[@LCRAVIAT1ON]

@@ncard00 Brightline recommended showing up 30 minutes early. However, I recommend showing up an hour early so you can enjoy the lounge.

[@enjoyslearningandtravel7957]

Why? By keeping the security checkpoint which goes very quickly. It keeps us safe on the train from people who might want to take weapons. .

[@Honestcritic79]

My only issue is that they think by making it feel more like an airport experience, people will take it. I don't understand that logic. In my opinion, people would rather something different than the airport experience. Some routes on amtrack decided to weigh passenger bags, like come on! Airport style security and then weighing your bags. Train travel is supposed to relieve you from that.

[@nyrmetros]

Hello and welcome to a delicious lunch!

[@TheRailwayDrone]

Great video.

[@ShaunCampbell-j7u]

There is enough space for a future Third and Fourth Track when needed to expand for both Brightline and Sun Rail

[@Spudeaux]

I'm pretty sure from looking at it that the station is designed for a fourth track, which is why the second platform is just as big as the first one.

[@juantoledo270]

How long does it take to recover checked bags?

[@LonestarTrips]

Not long, maybe 10-15 minutes.

[@X-H-Wu]

The Indonesia High Speed Train is running at 350 km/h. That's real High Speed. The 200 km/r Brightline is just a "slow High Speed Train". China's fastest Train is running at 400 km/h and still can demonstrate the "coin-stand test".

[@dynasty0019]

No high speed rail in the world runs past 200mph in revenue service.

[@ironchin17]

​@dynasty0019 Wrong, dozens of lines in China reach 350 kph (218 mph) in normal everyday operation. You can search "China rail 350" on KZbin. Chinese companies recently completed a high speed rail line in Indonesia that also reaches 218 mph which is what the above commenter is referring to. I believe they are the only two countries to commercially operate trains that significantly exceed 200 mph.

[@KimmyTheDarkTrader]

It's because they don't understand the definitions of High Speed Rail. An internal combustion train to describe as high speed rail already an absolute embarrassment joke. In Asia, anything below 250 km/h we also consider that as normal speed train. Look at that funny comment above. No high speed rail in the world run past 200 mph in revenue service? I have no idea which ages or planet he live in? Forget about Maglev that runs 400 km/h. No need to go China, just search KZbin China High Speed Rail and he can easily find 350 km/h revenue service in China. From Shanghai to Beijing distance of 1200 km can reach within 4 hours.

[@bluelambda]

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[@LonestarTrips]

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[@marsillinkow]

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[@commercialcritic4676]

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[@billm.2373]

So Brightline uses airplane level security because?

[@Mcfunface]

Because it's Florida and mass transit has a reputation for being unsafe with some of the worst of society riding the rails with you. This is theater to change the perception.

[@dynasty0019]

Brightline has a lot of amenities I their stations that are not open to the non-paying public.

[@ZazzelTheGamer]

Because it's connected to the airport.

[@heavyhauler426]

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[@JustinsRailfanning]

Will Brightline run 125 even if it’s raining?

[@NickyMitchell85]

Orlando airport is [now] an EXCEPTIONAL AIRPORT in the *United States 🇺🇸* now it’s got a mainline (or _Brightline_ ) rail 🚆 link. When was the last time 🕰️ you saw 👀 an airport in the US with IT’S OWN TRAIN 🚆 STATION 🚉?! I’m dead 😵 impressed by what they did here, knowing that the UNITED STATES 🇺🇸 was (and is still somewhat) *the land of the MOTOR VEHICLE 🚗.*

[@blazinph03n1x]

​@@NickyMitchell85O'Hare and Midway both have train stops. O'Hare has CTA and commuter rail.

[@AL5520]

@@NickyMitchell85 With all due respect, a good public transport connection to the city an airport serves is far more important than a rail line taking you to a city that has it's own airport with multiple rail and bus connections to the city and beyond. Orlando airport is connected with direct public transport to the city it serves with a one local bus that runs every 30 minutes and 4 other bus lines that runs every 30-60+ minutes to a few other destination in the area, all from Terminal 1 (so the "Intermodal Center" only has a train station with one train to a different city and probably a future connection by SunRail - a service that runs weekdays only).

[@robertolebron2296]

@@NickyMitchell85DFW has DART and TexRail in the airport

[@divorceanarcissist1014]

this train is useless - it goes to the airport and not orlando - the Miamai station is in Miami not the Miami airport

[@alexanderboulton2123]

Doing facial recognition is a little yikesey, but overall a very good service!

[@LonestarTrips]

Idk if it’s actually facial recognition, but that’s what the staff member mentioned, so that’s what I went with.

[@mrxman581]

Not High Speed Rail!, but 125 mph, even for only a few minutes is great to see in the USA. But not HSR.

[@LonestarTrips]

It is by the legal definition high speed rail, and is the slowest speed recognized internationally as high speed rail.

[@northpointcity-]

@@LonestarTrips Although yes… in the US it technically is HSR, is it really though? The tracks on the Cocoa-Orlando portion are brand new, and exclusively used by Brightline. Thus, Under the International Union of Railways it would fall under cat 1, meaning it should go at least 155mph to be considered HSR. If this was in Europe it’d simply be an intercity train, no ‘high speed’.

[@LonestarTrips]

@@northpointcity- I agree that it doesn’t fall under the UIC cat 1 classification, even though it really should. But seeing as 125 is pretty much the standard for even thinking about “high speed” rail, Brightline is high speed rail. Should it go faster? Absolutely. I really wish it would, but their rolling stock is only rated for 125, so that’s what we’re stuck with.

[@ncard00]

Yes, and it’s only 125mph between Cocoa and Orlando. But what bothers me more is the insanely slow acceleration of these diesel trains. If it was 125mph the entire route, but with EMU’s with S train level acceleration, the train could also have a lot more stops along the corridor, while still have lower travel times than now, serving a lot more cities, and gaining much more ridership overall.

[@northpointcity-]

@@LonestarTrips real

[@AtticusThings]

Where the high speed rail station? All I saw was a station for a diesel train that can travel 125mph, when High Speed Trains need to travel a minimum of 155 mph, and use electricity because diesel can't economically reach those speeds.

[@Fightclubatgmail]

The first high speed trains traveled at 125 its all arbitrary according to some definitions 125 is high speed. Also they don’t really need to make money on the train they make it back with real estate similar to some Asian railroads

[@AtticusThings]

@@Fightclubatgmail I'm aware, I think we should try not using 60 year old definitions though considering current "high speed" trains go 200+. Brightline is "higher speed", not high speed. If it IS high speed than basically every train on the NEC is high speed, which we know is not the case and would be silly to assert such.

[@AL5520]

The rail station was designed for a planned full HSR kine that was suppose to be built in Florida and they even received a $1.2 billion federal grant but the new elected governor Rick Scott rejected the grant and cancelled the plan. The new airport station was built as planned so Brightline only uses it (they do not own it). There is a plan to extend the local commuter SunRail service to the airport that will use the same station.

[@AtticusThings]

@@AL5520 I know all of that already, I've been following Brightline closely and am a big fan, it's just not a high speed rail line, and therefore none of the stations are "High Speed Rail Stations"

[@Fightclubatgmail]

@@AtticusThings Im just saying that it's all made up i could see a train going 100 mph and think that's really fast I think it's kinda silly that people are getting so hung up on whether its higher speed or high speed. It doesn't really matter does it?

[@archimedesxxicentury]

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