A Tribute to Neil Peart

The panel and I defend Neil Peart from some KZbin slander - the idea that Peart is somehow overrated is an outrage!!! How dare you!!!

[@javilalima]

To be fair, Andy never said Neal is a bad drummer, his point is simply that his competence is exaggerated and I do agree with him, although, like him, I do love Neal’s playing.

[@arnaudb.7669]

Andy made some valid points. Neil Peart is amazing but the world of drumming is so huge...

[@jeniferallan6693]

I LOVE Farewell to Kings

[@TheProgCorner]

Me too!!!

[@Mister_Jahn]

Excellent episode. Simply put Peart is a super distinctive and memorable drummer that lead his band and he was an incredibly musical arranger who brought philosophy to the mix. I get how its annoying to some drummers but he's more than a drummer and the standard by which every rock drummer will be measured. He created the role he utterly fulfilled. That is a more accurate definition of genius. Chops and versatility dont = genius (it can help), having an individual voice that is irreplaceable does. One of my happiest days as a guitarist who plays drums seriously was my neighbor telling me through the fence, "Hey you were playing YYZ." I said thanks. My thought, so you recognized it as such... awesome.

[@TheProgCorner]

Yes indeed!!!!

[@Amysvinylexperience]

Just coming in to catch up on your live 🤘🏼I missed you all today.

[@TheProgCorner]

Amy!!!!

[@uncletom618]

Lorne. I wanna say, “Yeah, what he said!”. My sister Marie passed away from Cancer yesterday morning, and as I watch this video, I’ve been remembering all the stuff we did together that was Rush related. Many concerts, but the best was the weekend I spent with her in Toronto attending the RushCon, and finished the weekend with the last North American gig of the R30 tour at the Molson Amphitheater. That was the last Rush show I attended. The first time I ever heard Rush, it was 1974, I was in the back seat of my sister’s boyfriend’s car as we sat at a red light. Rick liked to listen to a Canadian station CJOM FM , and there was a commercial on promoting the newest Rush album, Fly By Night. I was 13 yo at the time, and i liked the commercial so much, that I shoplifted the record from my local record store. I just had to have that record! 3 years later, i was skipping school on May 22, 1977 spending the day in Port Huron , Michigan, snuck in the backstage door with my friends, hid out in the seats, and watched the soundcheck of my first Rush show. They played Xanadu before FTK was out at that show, and witnessed them writing/polishing Free Will. I saw 3 shows from the Hemisphere tour . Probably been to 25 shows in total. Rush was huge here in Motown, but was hard to get a request on the radio. Great episode Scot and crew!

[@LorneMurphy]

Sorry for your loss; I know the feeling unfortunately. I was also at that R30 show at the Molson Amphitheater. I believe it was the last time I took a photo of Neil. Thank you for sharing.

[@uncletom618]

your kindness and care is so appreciated. Thank you ❤️

[@PJprog]

Of course Neil Peart is an absolute Legend Scot. That was a great tribute and a great stream to a great man. Respect. 🤘 Catch you later man. 😍🎵🎵

[@TheProgCorner]

Thank you!!!

[@johnnycashlives316]

Emerald city council is awesome.

[@TheProgCorner]

Absolutely!!!

[@brentbristow2200]

Thanks!! Glad you like our music!!

[@CloseToTheEdge-Prog]

All Andy said was he's overrated, and he is, most of them are but they are still amazing drummers.

[@Jay_Tee2023]

All Rush after 1984 is Sludge but the early stuff rules

[@ilabelle1]

One of the greatest drummers. One being the operative word here.

[@brentbristow2200]

Point of clarification. I was mistaken about Tony Williams appearing on the Burning for Buddy album. I was thinking of the compilation released by Zildjian called People Who Talk With Their Hands.

[@johnnycashlives316]

I regret finding rush, so late in life.

[@TheProgCorner]

Better late than never!!!

[@johnnycashlives316]

Prog corner this was awesome. Keep it up sir.

[@TheProgCorner]

Thank you!!!!!🙏

[@SoCalDan530]

Neil was one of my top three drummers of all time that were my idols, and reason that I started playing drums at 12 years old. I'm 56 now. The other two were Carl Palmer and John Bonham

[@TheProgCorner]

I see a pattern. You were drawn to perfection.

[@SoCalDan530]

@@TheProgCorner That is a true statement sir Scot

[@daanthing6002]

He's the master of his domain.

[@paulayers1111]

Love Neil! But my favorites are Guy Evans, Bill Bruford, Pip Pyle, Nick Mason, Phil Collins, Jaki Liebezeit, Aynsley Dunbar, John French, etc

[@TheProgCorner]

Nice!!!

[@TFTO1973]

Excellent show gentlemen! One of my favorite Neil lyric lines is; 'When I leave I don't know what I'm hoping to find, and when I leave I don't know what I'm leaving behind'. Wherever Neil may be, hopefully he is still hoping to find, because we all know what he left behind.

[@TheProgCorner]

Absolutely!!!!

[@BenTevikMusic]

In my opinion, the cream-of-the-crop prog drummers (Bruford, Peart, Portnoy, and Harrison are at the top of my list) posses a separate skillset than the great jazz/studio drummers (Williams, Cobham, Coluiata, Chambers…). The jazz guys are actually (in general) much more virtuosic and versatile drummers, so I understand the frustration of a drummer like Andy Edwards hearing so many people proclaim Neil as the greatest drummer of all time. I’ve seen this happen too, and the drummer has to say “he’s good, don’t get me wrong, but it’s probably someone like Tony Williams.” But what the prog drummers have is the highest level of creativity. Their role in the band isn’t merely to support the vocalist and play along with the song, but to be at the forefront, equal to all the other instruments in the band. They’re drum composers. There’s a reason these guys are mixed louder on their albums than a typical drummer. Neil is very arguably the greatest of this type of drummer.

[@alexposilkin9683]

Not going to argue your points. However, even with the other prog drummers you mentioned, they’ve each been in so many different projects. They’ve proven their versatility. It’s just not the case with Neil. I spent my teenage years learning every Rush song, and all of Neil’s licks. But those other prog drummers have just done so much more.

[@BenTevikMusic]

@@alexposilkin9683 Won’t argue with you either! Lol… That’s a separate point than the one I’m making, and Andy Edwards made the argument for your point very nicely in his video. And I absolutely agree, Neil is probably not as versatile as most other great prog drummers. But for that uber creative, no limits approach to writing super memorable drum parts, he is one of the very best.

[@alexposilkin9683]

@@BenTevikMusicTotally. His parts are unique, interesting, fun, and playable! It’s fascinating how all 3 of them approached their instruments in such unique ways AND created a sound that no one else replicated.

[@TABL3SIX]

Sorry I couldn't make this one. Was at a cd/record show. I will check out the replay. Required watching.

[@TheProgCorner]

Any luck at the record show?

[@TABL3SIX]

@@TheProgCorner yes if you like jazz fusion. $14 for Return to Forever Live at Montreux 2008 dvd $2 for The Chick Corea Elektric Band s/t (Still sealed) $2 for Pat Metheny Group - Letter From Home $2 for Guitar Trio Paco De Luia/Al Di Meola/John McLaughlin $5(sealed) for Passport - Man in the Mirror Not bad for $25 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@stukevideo]

You gotta remember that Andy Edwards, as a child, had his head stepped on by an elephant.

[@TheProgCorner]

Oh!!!! I did not realize this unfortunate backstory. God bless his little heart!!!👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️

[@henrycrinkle821]

I came here cos Andy recommended you.

[@TheProgCorner]

Nice!!!!! Thank you!!!!!

[@mfischer387]

I hope this doesn’t cause a huge rift between two of my favorite KZbinrs… (And fwiw, Neil is my all-time favorite drummer. In fact, my favorite bassist and guitarist are Geddy and Alex respectively. 😊)

[@TheProgCorner]

Nice!!!!! It’s all good. Andy and I are planning our heavyweight championship fight!!!!

[@tucowept]

Andy sent me

[@TheProgCorner]

Nice!!!

[@stukevideo]

I would never dis Neil Peart's drumming. However, his lyrics fall into the "subjective" category. One might say that they're down-to-Earth and accessible. On the other hand, they could bear the label simplistic and sophomoric.

[@TheProgCorner]

At times. But like you said - it’s subjective!!!!

[@stukevideo]

@@TheProgCorner Yeah, people down on Peart's lyrics are into Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Simon, poetry, etc.

[@scottmcrae3355]

Haha! Zappa is overrated. That should get Andy all riled up 😂😂. ( I really do like Andy though)

[@mythoflogic]

I have been on a trajectory to calling myself an "accomplished" professional musician for more than 40 years. For every minute of that time Neil Peart has been the gold standard against which all other rock drummers must be measured. Along with his bandmates / brothers in Rush we followed their every move and reveled in their progression. Truly there are other great, lenegandry drummers. But there is only one N.E.P. Full Stop.

[@TheProgCorner]

Absolutely!!!!!

[@thomasbeck2934]

It may be hard to argue that Buddy Rich could receive that #1 title. Few rock drummers can maintain the speed and syncopation of a gifted jazz drummer. When he was alive he had many challengers and they ALL lost. It’s not the size of the kit and how many drums you can hit but how you master what you have before you. Rich’s kit was minuscule compared to today’s rock kits but nobody could keep up with him or maintain his syncopation.

[@aleksandarfrick2656]

Rush were second tier band even in their heydays . Jew , Serb and Canadian - how can for Christ sake can be on Beatles , Stones , Kinks , Who , Kansas , Aerosmith level ?

[@TheProgCorner]

I’m not sure what a musician’s ethnicity or nation of origin has anything to do with it. It sounds um…wrong.

[@Marillion1978]

Jon Hiseman Gavin Harrison Carl Palmer

[@TheProgCorner]

Fantastic!!!!

[@TigerMtnKing]

🤩

[@Coolmore362]

Great episode didn’t catch it live but watched this morning, Andy Edward’s definitely has a way of dividing opinions, sure it must help his numbers unless he goes to left field , the last one a saw were he had Gilmour as the most overrated guitarist was one in question, but Floyd always end up on his overrated lists , I just don’t agree . Had a 3 album vinyl set of Rush back in the day , don’t know if only sold in the UK , Archives , like some of your vinyl went missing somewhere over the years . Just another small point think you will find Peter Gabriel sang Dancing with the Moonlit knight in 2016 when touring with sting ( you can find it on utube , amazing)

[@TheProgCorner]

Did PG sing or just Sting???

[@Coolmore362]

@@TheProgCorner definitely PG , only a short clip on utube easy to find , think sting may also sing on the track but the clip doesn’t show that just PG .

[@thomasbeck2934]

I’m having some trouble with this. Would Neil be considered one of the best if he wasn’t with and incredibly popular band. In this case then is Geddy Lee one of the greatest bassists of all time? Is Alex one of the greatest guitarists of all time? Sorry. But what do lyrics have to do with being a good drummer? Don Henley was not just a lyricist but a complete song writer, and by the way also a drummer. Who had to sing AND drum. Was he considered one if the greatest? No. And never. I’m not heaving on Neal AT ALL but maybe a bit over idolized.

[@TheProgCorner]

They are, of course, two separate skill sets - residing in the same human!!!

[@LorneMurphy]

Anything listed as 'A Tribute to Neil Peart' is most certainly going to contain reference to one of his primary - and celebrated - roles within the band.

[@brentbristow2200]

Geddy and Alex are two of the greatest of all times, yes.

[@RB-oc7ti]

Uh… did you just compare Don Henley’s drumming with Peart’s?!! 🤮 Peart had complete mastery of his entire kit, as well as multiple time signature changes - often within the same song. Henley can keep a beat - I’ll give him that much…

[@thomasbeck2934]

@@RB-oc7ti No

[@TABL3SIX]

Love the Opeth logo, album artwork. Just the growly vocals can't stand. Later albums I can stand. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@TheProgCorner]

I hear you!!!!

[@RichNarez]

Only prog drummer I will ranked ahead of neil is bill bruford

[@TheProgCorner]

Me too!! 1. Bruford 2. Peart 3. Portnoy

[@hansvanbrackle2040]

I have watched both videos. The feigned outrage by both you and Andy seems a bit forced, particularly for something as silly as opinions on a drummer. Did you guys go in together and plan this to stoke your respective stations???

[@TheProgCorner]

(What do YOU think?)🤔

[@jeffschielka7845]

Hey Scot! Great show, sorry the numbers weren't there. The RUSH fans just didn't show up. Don't know why? Later bro.👍☮️👑🐍😎

[@TheProgCorner]

They will ALL watch the replay!!! I am confident!!! Stiff competition from the Daily Doug.

[@jeffschielka7845]

​@@TheProgCornerWho's Doug? Lol!👍😎

[@deadfdr]

Like no other, it is absolutely impossible to rank Peart’s output.

[@deadfdr]

And as an aside, you can’t improve on a more perfect album than Nilsson Schmilsson

[@LorneMurphy]

In all honesty, the motive here should have been made clear to the panel before joining. I was asked to be on a show called 'A Tribute to Neil Peart', where I was told to talk about anything I wanted, so I talked about what I knew. This was then presented as a rebuttal to a video about Neil's drumming that I had never seen, and I end up coming across as an idiot Rush fan who equates lyric writing with musicianship. The mock 'feud' between the channels is funny, but the nastiness in the comments is not.

[@TheProgCorner]

Sorry to put you in the crossfire!!!

[@jodybartley7452]

Did you listen to 😮what Andy said. Seems like you are struggling for content. Just lost a devotee of your channel.

[@TheProgCorner]

We’re just having a little fun, Andy and I.

[@danielfuentes3226]

Neal Peart is one of the top ten drummer of all time.Wayne make comments of some great drummers that I agree,Matt talk about Tony Williams a great jazz drummer,Art Blakey is another great jazz drummer.Mitch Mitchell is a great drummer from The Jimi Hendrix Epxerience.

[@TheProgCorner]

Art Blakey!!! Oh my!!!

[@danielfuentes3226]

@@TheProgCorner 👍

[@רשףביטחון-ר5ב]

Maybe andi is an overrated you tuber ? Im not sure he likes prog that much,he dont like VGGD if my memory serve me well

[@TheProgCorner]

He doesn’t like them!!!! Weird!!!!

[@sunlightglider6772]

...and he put Ringo Star as the most underrated 🤷‍♂

[@TheProgCorner]

He did. Wow.

[@nietzscheankant6984]

As he should - people STILL somehow shit on Ringo on the regular, even though his playing is interesting, creative, original and definitely an important part of what made the Beatles the Beatles.

[@TheProgCorner]

Ringo was okay. Maybe he is slightly underrated.

[@sunlightglider6772]

@@nietzscheankant6984 I think you're getting mixed up between overrated and underrated 👍

[@sunlightglider6772]

@@TheProgCorner Overrated

[@ianemery4355]

Neil Peart was a genius of the Drums Andy Edwards is a drummer of a different style of music! I don't agree with him but he's upped his profile doing this! So it's what he wanted! He's wrong and upset a lot of people but In a a year we remember Neil and it will be Andy Who?? He new what he was doing!!

[@TheProgCorner]

Yes, he did!!!

[@viniciusgmachado1204]

@TheProgCorner Neil Peart stands alone. Also, I think you’ve been mispronouncing his last name the entire time. I think the letter A is silent, so it’s just “Pert.”

[@LorneMurphy]

It's 'Pee-rt'. Rhymes with 'ear'.

[@Lady.Luthien]

Whoever says Neil Peart is overrated has never tried to play the drums. I don't know who Andy Edwards is, but his mom is overrated.

[@TheProgCorner]

We agreed to leave our mothers out of this.

[@Lady.Luthien]

@@TheProgCorner sorry, I'm a GenXer, we tell a lot of "your mom" jokes. 😄

[@FunkadelicPancho]

I've played drums, hell, I've played music professionally for the last decade, but we're appealing to the argument from authority fallacy aren't we? Neil is without a doubt the most overrated drummer in history. Virgil Donati would eat his lunch, Tony Williams, Dennis Chambers, Brian Blade, Marco Minneman, Eric Moore, Keith Carlock etc. Not saying Neil isn't a great drummer, he is just not the greatest of all time as so many people claim.

[@Lady.Luthien]

@@FunkadelicPancho I respect that. Again, most people who say he's overrated have probably never played the instrument. But to be fair, Neil himself didn't think he was the greatest!

[@michaelbaucom4019]

I find Andy Edwards is too much into clickbait/garnering hate watchers to be taken seriously. Claiming Neil Peart is overrated stretches credibility beyond comic proportions. My appreciation of The Professor lies in his lyrics writing prowess. As a Kansas fan, I'm obligated to name Kerry Livgren as the best lyricist. The Professor is occasionally better, especially " Subdivisions", " The Spirit Of Radio ", and, as I age, " Time Stand Still ". The folks who crap on Time Stands Still will one day appreciate it far more

[@jeniferallan6693]

I find him to be a bit of a grumpy old sod

[@Jay_Tee2023]

Andy Edwards is a dork

[@RichNarez]

How in the heck is neil peart overrated Edward's is wrong how is john Bonham Karen carpenter and Roger Taylor on this list too Andy Edward's choices suck

[@jeniferallan6693]

Totally agree. He has become a grumpy old sod

[@TheProgCorner]

Karen Carpenter surprised me!!!

[@jeniferallan6693]

@TheProgCorner wonderful woman and drummer!

[@jeffschielka7845]

Andy is an idiot. Period!!!👍😎

[@TheProgCorner]

I love Karen!!!!

[@michaelsneade31]

Neil Peart isn’t overrated, he is underrated.

[@TheProgCorner]

That is correct.

[@KnEpH131]

Blocked Andy Edwards recommendations from You Tube. Dude's a tool.

[@TheProgCorner]

Ha ha!!!!

[@jeffschielka7845]

👍👍👍😎

[@ianemery4355]

All I can say is if you are subscribed to Andy Edwards press Unsubscrbe! Easy as he was doing Click bait! Losing subscribers will do the trick!

[@TheProgCorner]

We all do click bait but I try to be honest about it and segregate that content into CLICKBAIT WEEK!!! Coming again soon!!!!