A Two-State Solution is NOT the solution (So what is?)

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[@AustrianGD]

What do you think about Ukraine and Russia conflict?

[@ct5965]

love your videos Oren :] two great content creators are coming to Israel soon, Apostate Prophet and David Wood, i would really enjoy seeing you collaborate with them :]

[@unom8]

grifters gonna grift.

[@unom8]

quick question, can you tell me if you see the Palestinian children as humans same as you are human?

[@Django1818]

Israel must withdraw its troops. If that doesn't happen, Israel must be sanctioned, and it will happen!

[@מימוןבןאברהם]

I was supportive of the 2-state-solution in my younger years. As time has passed, it has become more conclusive to me that the idea is a bad one the more this debate persists.

[@perjetesi2811]

Join the club.

[@jonathan4158]

The 2-state-solution has became nothing but a dead dream since the Arabs kept on rejecting it. As they keep saying this over and over again, they wanted the State of Israel to be wiped out.

[@brynawaldman5790]

Me too.

[@denischarette-de3te]

Me too, about the same. Once I discovered, over the years, what the arabs were all about, I realised that the two state solution is impractical and even lethal for Israel.

[@ponygirl1716]

Israel pulled completely out of Gaza and allowed it to function as a sort of statelet for 17 years. Look what happened. Anyone who still supports a two-state solution is blind, deaf, and really dumb.

[@christinamuzzu6414]

So glad the Mohsen quote is included. The next line after the one shown is even more revealing: he says that the moment after tgey have destroyed Israel, Pal will be absorbed into Jordan. So they didn't even want it as a state! This is not about love of life for their people. It is about lust for death of Jews. And since their leader emphasized on an interview right after Oct. 7 that they will keep doing such attacks "again and again" those insisting on "peace! no war" are barking up the wrong tree when they refuse to accept that this hate is there and unrelenting no matter what Israel does.

[@adhuna1009]

no matter what Israel does? was Israel ever, as a solution to this conflict, ready and willing to give the Arab Palestinians the right to self-determination? even the Oslo Accords didn't give that.

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

and we wonder why God of the Old Testament told Israelites to wipe out demolish certain cultures/peoples!! now we KNOW!!

[@WooolyBully]

​@@adhuna1009Just Arabs, not Arab Palestinians.

[@jagnestormskull3178]

​@@adhuna1009 The 2000 Camp David Summit. Israeli PM Ehud Barak offered Palestinian Liberation Organization chairman Yasser Arafat a state with the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and even East Jerusalem, with the caveat that Israeli forces would remain at the Western Wall (Judaism's holiest site) to protect Jewish worshippers, and some Jewish neighborhoods within East Jerusalem would be annexed by Israel. Israel was ready and willing, but Yasser Arafat and the Palestinians were not. In the autobiography _My Life,_ Bill Clinton, the US president who was overseeing the negotiations, claims that Yasser Arafat called him a "great man," and he responded with "I am not a great man, I am a failure, and you made me one." Dennis Ross, a key negotiator at the summit, claims in the book _The Missing Peace_ that Arafat was unwilling to sign any deal that didn't confer to the maximum Palestinian demands, including a right of return for Palestinians that would turn it into a one-state solution when the summit was supposed to be for a two-state solution.

[@adhuna1009]

first of all, absolutely nothing was in writing, which is weird for such an important matter, so you have conflicting accounts to this day. the following from wiki (which you seem to have missed when putting the blame entirely on Arafat): Robert Malley, part of the Clinton administration and present at the summit, wrote to dispel three "myths" regarding the summit's failure. First myth, Malley says, was "Camp David was an ideal test of Mr. Arafat's intentions". Malley recalls that Arafat didn't think that Israeli and Palestinian diplomats had sufficiently narrowed issues in preparation for the summit and that the Summit happened at a "low point" in the relations between Arafat and Barak. The second myth was "Israel's offer met most if not all of the Palestinians' legitimate aspirations". According to Malley, Arafat was told that Israel would not only retain sovereignty over some Arab neighborhoods of Jerusalem, but Haram al Sharif too, and Arafat was also asked to accept an unfavorable 9-to-1 ratio in land swaps. The third myth was that "The Palestinians made no concession of their own". Malley pointed out that the Palestinians starting position was at the 1967 borders, but they were ready to give up Jewish neighborhoods in East Jerusalem, and parts of the West Bank with Israeli settlements. Further, the Palestinians were willing to implement the right of return in a way that guaranteed Israel's demographic interests. He argues that Arafat was far more compromising in his negotiations with Israel than Anwar el-Sadat or King Hussein of Jordan had been when they negotiated with Israel. Shlomo Ben-Ami, then Israel's Minister of Foreign Relations who participated in the talks, stated that the Palestinians wanted the immediate withdrawal of the Israelis from the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem, and only subsequently the Palestinian authority would dismantle the Palestinian organizations. The Israeli response was "we can't accept the demand for a return to the borders of June 1967 as a pre-condition for the negotiation." In 2006, Shlomo Ben-Ami stated on Democracy Now! that "Camp David was not the missed opportunity for the Palestinians, and *if I were a Palestinian I would have rejected Camp David, as well*. This is something I put in the book. But Taba is the problem. The Clinton parameters are the problem" referring to his 2001 book Scars of War, Wounds of Peace: The Israeli-Arab Tragedy. Norman Finkelstein published an article in the winter 2007 issue of Journal of Palestine Studies, excerpting from his longer essay called Subordinating Palestinian Rights to Israeli "Needs". The abstract for the article states: "In particular, it examines the assumptions informing Ross’s account of what happened during the negotiations and why, and the distortions that spring from these assumptions. Judged from the perspective of Palestinians' and Israelis' respective rights under international law, all the concessions at Camp David came from the Palestinian side, none from the Israeli side."@@jagnestormskull3178

[@MrZimmmy]

Hey Oren, you speak the historical truth to your audience about the motivations of Muslims, the Arab nations, and Jews in Israel 🇮🇱 and throughout the Middle East. I lived on Kibbutz Ayelet HaShachar and taught English at Hula Valley Regional HS. I share Golda Meir’s belief that when Palestinian, Arab, and Muslim children learn to live peacefully with their Jewish neighbors, there might be a final reconciliation but that day is far, far away.

[@BiharyGabor]

Do you also mean that Israeli children should learn to live peacefully with everybody who live in the land?

[@Victoria_shipwave]

​@@BiharyGabor what children did to you?

[@BiharyGabor]

@@Victoria_shipwave Pardon?

[@radjamadgi2267]

@@BiharyGabor exactly! The hypocrisy is unbearable. Thank you

[@GrahamCStrouse]

@@radjamadgi2267Your ignorance is unpardonable.

[@randallflagg8378]

didn't care so much about the conflict. Didn't know much about arabs in palestine,wasn't a big fan of israeli politics etc...until I faced the 7th of 10,being in Israel and stayed there for 6 months longer.....That changed my mind a lot. Ave Israel!No mercy for HAMAS!

[@dalemcmurray-hn6sc]

The people of Gaza spent billions on weapons dug 750+ kilometres of tunnels they could’ve use that money to have a place more beautiful than Dubai. They could’ve had agriculture and tourism education the greatest prosperity those Muslims chose hatred. Imagine all those millions of dollars spent on weapons and tunnels all that concrete all that effort building a place more beautiful than Dubai. They could’ve had a Paradise but instead, Muslim hatred, for Jews, created their own Hell, and brought upon their own doom❤DALE.

[@C.E.Thomas1952]

@dalemcmurrahn6sc Well written and succinctly put. I would just like to add "karma" aka "what goes around, comes around."You sow seeds of hate, you harvest hatred, conflict, violence and even self-loathing. You are so right. They could have had a Paradise, but out of their hatred they created a Hell.

[@chillfrosted2670]

can i ask where you found that information please, i cant find it and im really interested

[@krillr_prawn]

i saw a prager u interview of a guy from Gaza who tried multiple times to leave because of the hatred. He had the worst family and community there in Kahn Yunis. He later successfully escaped and converted to Judaism and currently lives in Israel. He says the same thing as Oren, actually more hardcore and horrific detail.

[@dalemcmurray-hn6sc]

@@chillfrosted2670 If you watch the news, you can see they’ve dug more than 750 km of tunnels in immense amount of concrete. You can see all the buildings of dollars that spent been spent on weapons. All that money could’ve been used to build a place more beautiful than Dubai when the Israelites left Garza in 2005, the Palestinians destroyed the agriculture, destroyed the buildings, the Farm and equipment. There’s video of it with them, setting it on fire and smashing it apart, their hatred has created the situation, Muslim hatred for Jews. it’s easy to understand that if they didn’t spend money on weapons and digging tunnels, they could’ve been building buildings incredibly beautiful, and had a paradise they chose evil. ❤️DALE.

[@judithrivas2622]

Very well said.

[@schwanzusminimus3321]

"Land for peace" was a huge mistake. The stronger Israel acts, the more peaceful the region will become. Israel should not submit to any pressure from the outside.

[@petraravn5421]

I wish the Palestinians could finally understand the basic truth of "A land without a people for a people without a land"!

[@adamelghalmi9771]

wtf is wrong with you guys? the "stronger" israel acts, the more it is percieved as a threat. you can't be serious bro

[@elanasomekh1125]

Land for peace is not the issue here, and all those who have been following the Middle East conflict, which dates back to 1948, should understand that the Palestinians will not be appeased by more territory. They believe that if their life-long ideology where the Mahdi will only relieve them of their plight if Israel is destroyed, rings true till today. Believe it or not, they do not want to share the land!

[@danthaman743]

@@adamelghalmi9771were we a threat in Hebron in 1929 when our innocent and unarmed communities were slaughtered? No. There was no “occupation”… no Israel… yet they still tried to wipe us out… the only thing they understand and respect is strength.

[@danthaman743]

@@elanasomekh1125started long before 1948 brother… check out the pogroms in the 1920s… or even in the 1500s… this goes back to Ishmael and Issac!

[@janettucker3196]

Great video. It, however, does leave out the false Arab narrative that the Holy Land had a reasonably large population of Arabs prior to the first Zionist settlement (1882). In fact, many Western visitors to that region prior to 1882 describe a land that was desolate and deserted with practically no vegetation and very few inhabitants outside of the towns that were small and shabby. Most of the privately-held land was in the hands of a few extremely wealthy Arab owners that lived outside of that territory in cities like Cairo, Beirut and Damascus. They offered to the Jews the worst of those lands to buy at exorbitant prices. But the Jews ended up buying 90,000 acres and turned them into productive farmlands. This was something totally outside of the Arab mindset. (To date the Israelis have planted 250,000,000 trees.) Once the Arabs from neighboring countries saw the prosperity the Jews were created they began mass migrating into that region.

[@anthonybernstein9698]

This is news to the uninformed, propaganda is about telling a lie enough times that people believe it and will even fight for what they think is now the new truth. We saw this in Germany in the 1930s.

[@bwelc0076]

EXACTLY.

[@jikolp001]

Same thing happened in South Africa.

[@donjowansafadi8739]

That's interesting because early Zionist accounts describe the opposite saying almost all farm-able land is being used

[@modarkthemauler]

@@jikolp001 And look at South Africa now that they basically kicked the whites out.

[@wongwong3514]

Gaza was under Egypt before 1967 but no protest because egypt is Muslim

[@GRM74]

Egypt became Islamic through wars which the Muslims brought... centuries before Egypt was 100% Christian.

[@ZenosMind]

Their was what?

[@Abcd-u1o]

Put a period after the protest and then continue reading 😂😂​@@ZenosMind

[@乂Hi乂]

Egypt weren't bombing and do genocides on them? but the jewsh israel did that and more

[@Abcd-u1o]

@@乂Hi乂 Friend, if this is what you really think and believe, you probably don't live here in the region of the Middle East. The Egyptians explicitly said that if the Gazans try to cross the border, they will return in bags, meaning dead bodies, and they mean all Gazans. Egypt does not attack Gaza because the Gazans do not attack the Egyptians and also because the Gazans have a lot of family in Egypt so who will they attack their family? And I recommend that you investigate why the Egyptians said to the Gazans what I said because when you investigate you will find out that the Hamas movement is associated with the Muslim Brotherhood organization that the government in Egypt hates and in addition Hamas for years does not remember how many members of the Sinai Daesh attacked the Egyptians and when that happened the Egyptians slaughtered them all (according to foreign sources Egypt got a little help In Israel in this section I don't know how) so do me a favor and do an in-depth study of the Japanese you speak

[@jlunde35]

This channel shows me the power for good of the internet. I grew up in a St. Louis neighborhood with a substantial Jewish population and never heard of this history. Thanks for sharing.

[@YaakovEzraAmiChi]

One reason for learning Hebrew is opening up of a lot of information that unfortunately can only be found in Hebrew. Leftism has really damaged the American Jewish community.

[@CanCaner163]

😂 International law is basically a presentation of US demands. I can’t believe this is brought up as a supporting point in this video. Of course they would state to give the land to Israel, which happens to be their terrorist headquarters

[@Genius766]

I’m a Syrian ex muslim here. You are 100% correct

[@shirelsloomi8452]

Take care, from Israel!

[@yoops66]

I came to the conclusion, after moving slowly from a strong supporter of Oslo to the more realistic point of view explained in this video, that there won't be peace while Muslims will be Muslims. You are the path to peace. And many others like you. I hope it will grow exponentially, now that people may easily read the Quran and the Hadith on the internet and, first of all, that they may talk anonymously and openly on the internet, without risking their lives.

[@YaakovEzraAmiChi]

I admire your willingness to engage the truth. I hope Syria finds peace one day. I hope we all can live in peace one day.

[@MitzvosGolem1]

Close to one million Syrians killed recently... No one mentions this terrible genocide there. Glad you are ok. My Doctor is Lebanese Christian and fled Lebanon to NYC Brooklyn.

[@popsy5676]

يسوع المسيح يبارك يا اخي ❤️🙏🏽

[@volcano1868]

How reasonable you are, conveying sensible reason. You're a leader at conveying facts and most valuable without your being shaken or stirred.

[@tochiRTA]

clarity feels great.

[@richardhaines7029]

Sincere thanks to travelingisrael (apologies forgot your name) your videos on these matters have been very enlightening. I am from the UK, and from my own military service I could see on deployments how much the media lies first hand. Even revered institutions such as the BBC, they are so full of it (scat is I think the polite term.) For most of my forty odd years, I've kind of switched back and forth on the topic between Israel and Palestine, but I always asked myself, why can't they just get along and live together peacefully? Your videos, supported with corroborated facts and figures, has finally opened my eyes, and put that uncertainty to rest. I now stand firmly with Israel!

[@pamelabanin5212]

My husband's family came to the Tel-Aviv area in 1912 from Aden Yemen on camels. They arrived to sand dunes and empty land and slowly started to build their lives in Israel, like many other Jews from Arabic countries. Oren often illustrates these histories very clearly and with an academic knowledge of how modern day Israel evolved. This is important background that often falls on deaf ears. People feel emboldened to openly hate Israelis and Jews in general. They would prefer an image of a meek impoverished little grandmother begging for a scrap of bread as the Jew they will accept. Maybe. What they hate are strong highly creative intelligent people who will fight to the death to protect their land and people. The haters would admire those traits and qualities in any other nation...just not Israel.

[@sandrajohn9837]

I think you are right, at least about european Anti Zionist Jew haters. Since the middle ages the Jews have taken the place of the ancient, actual, scapegoats. Anti Zionists would never admit it but they hate it that Jews, 'don't know their place', and actually defend themselves: and Israel is demonised in consequence. There's also, 'envy, jealousy, malice and pride', of course. Never surrender. Am Yisrael Chai 🇮🇱 ♥️🇦🇺

[@yusefkhan1752]

Story seems fake

[@jasonBGI]

Well said Pamela.

[@MrFuadee]

Empty land😂😂😂

[@MrFuadee]

My father was born in Yafa in 1906

[@colinm1325]

Thanks for another great vid Oren.👍 What is Gaza? Isn't it already a state? As you showed us, its in black and white what they want to do, what they did on 7th October 2023, and what they said they'll do again and again. Why and How Isn't the world seeing and hearing this? Until the Israeli hostages are released, and hamas unconditionally surrender, the IDF Has to continue. 🇮🇱🕎✡️☕️🍪

[@amelianarawa4120]

The world as part of the UN is complicit in the actions of the 'Palestinians'. The UN knows fully well what's happening there but pretends not to know.

[@magentavfxtuts2338]

israel has killed 2 hostages just earlier this month. before that, they killed 3 holding white flags. yes, the hostages NEED to be released 100%, but you’re lying to urself if u think israel cares about them 🤷‍♀️

[@benqurayza7872]

The quote from Hajj Amin al-Husseini that you displayed on screen at 15:20 perfectly sums up the Islamic Arab position from his time to our time.

[@profnesamony]

All level headed people will appreciate the stand taken by you💯

[@tobiklaus722]

You mean all the bots

[@homiepiggy]

@@tobiklaus722 found the bot

[@leahshalek6144]

@@tobiklaus722 Hey there, bot! Sad, though, even bots can be educated if they *choose* to be. Clearly you don't.

[@tobiklaus722]

I destroyed all his arguments in my comment and not a single one of you israeli bots were able to disprove one. You blindly follow a youtuber who dedicated his channel to make propaganda for his country. @@leahshalek6144

[@jpespinosa4539]

@@tobiklaus722aren’t you a bot of Iran

[@davina686]

Beautifully articulated and explained

[@MrMrs-g2w]

This ZIONIST Christian family in Canada STANDS with ISRAEL 🇮🇱, supports you, cries with you, prays with you, DAY & NIGHT. We LOVE the people of the Gd of Israel and support your right to exist in peace free from terrorism! 💪 GO ISRAEL! ♥AM ISRAEL CHAI 🇮🇱 #BRINGTHEMHOME!✡🙏✝

[@Scoobe]

תודה ♥

[@Just_Lou722]

🔻

[@shredderhater]

I used to be, Oct 7th changed that. I decided I needed more information. Thanks Oren for being a great source

[@tobiklaus722]

You wanted more information about this controversial topic and decided to get it from the most biased propaganda channel on KZbin?

[@NAAZAAAR]

@@tobiklaus722 afaik Oren recognizes his bias, after all he is Israeli. I was also looking for new info but the pro palestinian videos/channels often base their opinions on the same arguments (nakba, deir yassin etc) and rarely provide different historic sources/examples. I've seen them omit way more important info than this channel does just to make the point we all "know" aka Israelis arent arabs so they have no place in the middle east, or how the settlements are segregating the palestinian land or how they use excessive violence in their operations. I'm not an expert on the topic by any means but to leave a comment bashing someone for appreciating this guys efforts to make us all more informed just seems ignorant to me. I think its important to look at both sides of the story..

[@tobiklaus722]

Of course it is important to view both sides of the story, but this onsided portration of the topic is dangerous when taken as the only source. Its like watching russian state media to get to know more about the ukrain war. I dont know what pro palestinian channel you watched and cant speak for all of them, but most are way more neutral and dont just try to let the other side look evil. Dont you see that most his arguments in his countless videos are there to make arab and muslim look evil? Thanks for your friendly comment and willingness to talk with me. @@NAAZAAAR

[@freedahlogic8368]

@@tobiklaus722 you seem to have missed the notion that most of us commenting started of as supporters of the two state solution, but when we saw what was done on Oct 7 we had to accept that the Israelis who said Palestinians hated them and wanted to kill them were not all extremists, but in fact describing reality. I recommend you look into the history of caliphates in the region. You’ll find that the majority of colonisation over the last 5 centuries or so was done by caliphates.

[@docorwhatever2168]

@@NAAZAAAR Nakba is a historical fact. Oren's desperate trial to disprove it is just a waste of his time. The Nakba is documented just like the Holocust.

[@leccy9901]

Very well said. Their culture and religion make this such an impossible fight to end peacefully. It's hard to see an end even with fighting. People in the West just do not understand how the arabs think. They have very different ideas than us. I hope isreal can one day find peace ✌️

[@Stive-v8m]

But a Palestinian state was created, called Jordan, the only arab country with a Hebrew name.

[@yoops66]

Urdun is not Hebrew. Please stick to true facts, there are enough of them to need to invent others. By inventing false facts,n you are weakening the true ones.

[@pigmeatishambacon]

JORDON WAS A XTIAN PLACES UNTILL ISLAN SHOWED IT LOVE

[@BonusHole]

The Palestinians must be the only Muslim Arabs to have an Anglicised, Romanised, Greek name. How peculiar... I wonder how that happened... oh wait a minute...

[@masea2]

@@BonusHoleSyrians, Egyptians are also not Arabic names.

[@محمدبريداوي]

​​@@pigmeatishambaconthe people were happy with islam. Even the jews. Just remember that jews were allowed to enter Jerusalem again when muslims ruled the region. The christians prohibitedthis. And remember the holocaust happened in christian majority Europe not long ago.

[@messengersmessianicjewisho1058]

Excellent, very clear. It's something I can send to the people in our fellowship. Todah !!

[@Univer1132]

It’s very difficult for rational people to comprehend this conflict is not territorial but rooted in Islamic principals

[@magentavfxtuts2338]

so its okay to be islamophobic now? imagine someone said the same thing but swapped ‘islamic’ for ‘jewish’!

[@heikejohannajahns3257]

​@@magentavfxtuts2338it is no phobia being afraid of a doctrine that has the clear order to kill everyone else.

[@Univer1132]

⁠@@magentavfxtuts2338I’m trying to use facts so I don’t need to imagine. There are many Islamic principals but the main one is that Jews, Christians, bahais, yazidis or any other religious or ethnical group can only exist in the Middle East (AKA dar el Islam - house of Islam) as minorities. The fact there’s a powerful Jewish state seems unnatural and against gods will. This causes a tremendous religious crisis in the Islamic world. Of course there could be different interpretations in any religion or ideology but this is the leading interpretation today.

[@kleopatra6234]

That's especially true of the Americans. And JoBamaBuyden and blinky. I$slam has to reform because it's not acceptable to the civilized world as it is. Too violent.

[@jessereichbach588]

@@magentavfxtuts2338 Fear of Izlam is quite rational. There is nothing "phobic" about it. Izlam is a horrid, colonialist religion, based around conquest, lies and deception. It is literally the religion of "shaytan". And I'm not even joking a little bit. Surah whatever whatever...... "prophetmuhammed has not spoken to allah in 2 days".... surah whatever whatever "no one has seen shaytan in 2 days".... i forget the exact numbers. Muhammad literally becomes possessed by Shaytan. And everything after that. is Shaytan. Shaytan hides in the noses of good Mozlems during the day, needs to be washed out of their noses at night, and then goes and uses their ears as a urinal. And no, again, I am not kidding. THAT is "Izlam". I mean for hecks sake, Aisha was NINE years old. NINE. It's not that Mozlems can't be good people. Of course they can. It's just that in order to do so, they have to be bad Mozlems. 🤣

[@williamdeasy7507]

Pitty not everyone will listen I am sick of the pro Palestine if they want Palestine to be free then they need to accept the right of the Jewish people and live next to them

[@adhuna1009]

Live next to them as equals. Not under occupation and having blockades imposed on them. Will Israel itself ever let that happen?

[@lightfeather9953]

​@@adhuna1009millions of Arab Israelis already have the same rights as Jews in Israel. Have you ever stopped and asked the obvious question of why a country would have such security controls? The blockade didn't exist before gazans elected a group that explicitly wanted to get rid of all Jews. How do you think any other state would be treated if they had that attitude towards their neighbors? Let me guess, you haven't read a single thing about history, not even ww2

[@lightfeather9953]

And they've had countless opportunities to live side by side peacefully and rejected it every time. What are you talking about, with not having the chance to live together peacefully? They have. Gazans don't want to live side by side peacefully. We have polls showing this is a fact.

[@williamdeasy7507]

@@lightfeather9953 I know that the Palestine people don’t want to live peacefully next to Israel I was saying that no one listen to Israel about this

[@adhuna1009]

@@lightfeather9953 really? Would the Likud party give the 5 million Palestinians equal rights, right NOW? The right to vote? To form political parties? Do you really?

[@sery152]

You hit the nail right on the spot! The amricans think they can just force democracy by election, withoutn the education and mindset needed.

[@insideoutsideupsidedown2218]

Actually, no we don’t. And to prove that, we are a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy.

[@NYSteve]

oh, sorry, completely forgot about Iraq and Afghan...my bad@@insideoutsideupsidedown2218

[@campbellmackinnon3848]

100%. You can't give democracy to people who can't maintain it. China and Russia have the same problem.

[@saris9487]

We@@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 Well we taught Germany after WW2 How to be civilized. It took unconditional surrender , obliterating German cities, occupation, reeducation. Israel does not want to occupy Gaza that is the problem. Only Hamas wants it a launching ground for war and terrorism in to Israel

[@don_5283]

@@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 No need for that kind of pedantry. A constitutional republic is properly a form of democracy, squares and rectangles, and the barest glance at US foreign policy, particularly recently, shows an apparent belief that representative government is the default desire of people everywhere. All that's needed is to clear out the oppressive people at the top and give the general public an opportunity to assert themselves. That didn't work so well in the Balkans, or the Caribbean, or South America, and was a complete disaster in Iraq and Afghanistan. There are just a lot of people in the world who, if you give them the vote, will vote for different forms of authoritarianism, and that's not a cultural thing that can be changed overnight. Or with 20 years of dedicated nation-building. Without the assumption that democracy can be imposed by judicious application of force, how else can you explain Iraq and Afghanistan in particular?

[@smaddox-no9br]

Oren, thank you for your clear and concise educational videos. I never fail to learn something new.

[@nancywhitehead219]

When the Palestinians keep rejecting the two state solutions there's nothing you can do. They need good leaders not terrorists leaders 😢😢

[@SkyGlitchGalaxy]

Yeah, but where in the Muslim world do they have such good leaders? Its culture and religion.

[@Genius766]

Ex muslim Arab here This will never happen, muslims will always vote for islamists, and islamists seek to exterminate Jews. Extermination of Jews is a prophecy by Muhammad and most Muslims believe it

[@trevaudio]

When did Israel ever offer the Palestinians a state ????

[@KittyPurrBoy]

​@@trevaudio1. The devisen of the land by the united nations 2. The Oslo Accords

[@LBALucas111]

​@@KittyPurrBoyThe British didnt divide it, the United Nations did

[@SuperGoldygoldy]

You are 100% right. They can’t live in peace even with each other.

[@jk-xm7fi]

Neither could Europe. things can change

[@Daniper1]

​@@jk-xm7finot when you're indoctrinated by a hate based cult mindset

[@PhilipusArabus]

How do you explain the holocaust then?

[@flowapowa4307]

@@jk-xm7fi Yes, as Europe grew secular. Israel is engaging with Islamist extremists - until they stop being religious fanatics, nothing will change. Europe should soon understand that as well, I hope. or they will see that peace is not a constant state as well.

[@乂Hi乂]

@@flowapowa4307so resisting against a land theif stealing your land means you are extremist

[@danyelnicholas]

I would never have expected this but over and over, you of all people explain those twisted and charges issues in a clear and comprehensible way. Thank you again.

[@iditbarmats]

❤❤❤❤

[@CanCaner163]

International law is basically a presentation of US demands. I can’t believe this is brought up as a supporting point in this video. Of course they would state to give the land to Israel, which happens to be their terrorist headquarters.

[@bernhardsegerer1316]

The best argument was not even mentioned: some 18 years ago Gaza was let into independance from Isreal. A palestinian state. See what they made of that. Enough said,

[@tobiklaus722]

Its like looking on germany 1933 and saying: Yep those people are evil by nature and should never have an independent state again

[@bean3829]

the 'they' you are referring to is hamas, which doesnt represent palestine. and you do know that theres various evidences and sources stating that netanyahu uses hamas as a political asset to arise disunity amongst the palestinian leadership right?

[@eduardosuarez2414]

Israel pulling out of Gaza was not an altruistic move and Oren is being a little disingenuous about it here. The Israelis said openly at the time that withdrawing from Gaza was about maintaining a Jewish majority state, and was actually designed to halt the "peace process," which was always geared toward creating a Palestinian state. The Israelis recognized that the Palestinian population was going to keep growing exponentially, and so they sacrificed territory for security. It wasn't about giving Palestinians anything. I'm not faulting Israel for that, but the "disengagement" from Gaza is often presented as the Israelis being magnanimous, when it was quite the opposite.

[@AcidR3action]

So did Israel recognize Gaza as an independent state?

[@eduardosuarez2414]

@@AcidR3action Wouldn't have mattered if they did, as the rest of the world said they would not recognize any changes to the borders without agreement between both parties. Even though Palestinians and arabs worldwide were happy about the withdrawal, the only internationally-recognized solution would be a contiguous territory with Gaza and the West Bank linked. Israel could have said "there you go, Gaza is now Palestine," but that wouldn't have made it official. And it is true that the palestinians have been offered much more territory in the past, but declined.

[@valar7568]

Trying to explain any of this to a “Palestinian,” is like trying to explain quantum physics to a three-year-old child.

[@boyanaskrbic]

Como lo veo yo. El estado de Israel, con su democracia, libertad, adelantos, ayudas humanitarias, es absolutamente contrario a un mundo donde se instauran tiranías con excusas religiosas, que se hacen adorar, que mantienen al pueblo oprimido, ignorante, pobre, violento, y que al ver e inspirarse en Israel, son un peligro latente de insurrección. Por eso el adoctrinamiento intensivo desde la más temprana niñez contra Israel. El foco tiene que estar ahí como eterno culpable de todo y la recompensa en el paraíso para los que se inmolan por su causa. Favorecen la explotación femenina como reproductoras de carne de cañón y con severos castigos, para que no piensen ni hagan pensar a los hombres. Alá les sirve en la medida que es útil a sus planes. Si no estuviera Israel, se estarían matando entre ellos por las mismas razones. El apoyo que se están dando entre ellos, es porque se tienen miedo y actúan aparentando solidaridad, o sea, lo políticamente correcto, para guardar su propio pellejo. 🙄💔🇨🇱🇮🇱

[@sanjosejeff]

Awesome analogy

[@GeorgeSaucington]

But buuut but you're a white colonial Zionist occupier!

[@mike_hock]

Your right, there shouldn’t have been a two state solution in 1945 Germany either with your logic.

[@valar7568]

@@mike_hock if anyone understands what this means in “English” could you post it please?

[@zionistgoddessofstars]

I'm so glad I found this channel. Every video I watch adds more knowledge to me about the truth about this situation and helps me see the big picture. Thanks for making these videos!

[@Davidmp]

Oren, this is a fantastic video. Please, please keep them coming!

[@jacobcohen9205]

Great video. Fair and informative. Sadly, those who don't want to accept the truth won't.

[@anthony64632]

An hard evidence is the Temple Mount where King Solomon Temple was built by the Jews in Jerusalem, Then centuries later the Dome of Rock was built on top of Temple Mount which proves that the Jews were there first long before that Arabs. Archaeology never lies

[@Curtlf]

Jews are Arabs just not muslins. They have the same DNA and originate from middle east.

[@verindictus3639]

@@Curtlf Jews are NOT Arabs. They have similiar DNA due to coming from the same area, but Jews are their own people, NOT Arabs.

[@GideonArmy333]

Spot on, Islam prophet ‘supposedly’ flew on a donkey (like all Islamist) to the furthest mosque. Prophet Died 632 AD, Dome built only 682 AD. Historically, Locality & Archeologically Islam are are Lies. Expose Islam’s Lies, it’ll Die

[@farfiman]

We can't know for sure if the temple was under there since the Arabs will not let any archaeology to happen on the temple mount.

[@jiminverness]

@@Curtlf Well, they both claim descendency from Abraham by his sons - the Israelites via Isaac, and the Arabs via Ishmael.

[@euniceaustin6527]

Me and my family were 100 percent behind my Aunt who was the Private Secretary and Personal Assistant to Dr Evatt in order to keep Dr Evatt on track for the League of Nations and its future named organization U.N. to be sure that his casting vote was indeed to ensure that Israel would be Israel the home of the Jewish Peoples. What you have said is EXCELLENT and TRUTHFUL...............Thank you.

[@u.y.3643]

חזק ואמץ עם ישראל חי

[@chetpomeroy1399]

Israel has no choice but to be strong and courageous.

[@avalerie4467]

Am Yisraël Hai❤

[@banker752]

Because Israel is the chosen by God . Love from Christian. That's why Christian support them

[@u.y.3643]

@@banker752 unfortunately the main reason why christians support Israel is their ultimate agenda of converting us to their faith.

[@محمدبريداوي]

​@@banker752hitler had the same mindset, thinking his race was the super race and now after holocaust happened in Europe you start to support the 'chosen ubermensch' mentality of zionists. Haven't you learned from history

[@traver1965]

I would like if you made a video about (quoting Robert Kennedy 1948): "500,000 Arabs, in the 12 years between 1932-1944, came into Palestine to take advantage of living conditions existing in no other Arab state". Also about the hardship of jews getting in to the area during those years while arabs har carte blanche to move in.

[@KathyPrendergast-cu5ci]

Yes. Something the anti-Israel side choose to ignore is the fact that that Arab population of Palestine exploded during the British Mandate period, due to migration. That why they were a majority by the late 1940s.The British made no attempt to control Arab migration, while actively keeping Jewish refugees from Europe and other Middle Eastern countries out.

[@hannahmondry4678]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaCwZ5mfbqaphLs and kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmnFnKSnq9R6psU

[@bitiaaflalo9829]

I second that.

[@alfonzo4367]

surely tens of thousands of deaths are not worth something from nearly 100 years ago. people forget about people and it breaks my heart

[@bettyslama5284]

I heard this several times but it hasn't been proven according to Wikipedia at least. So Oren may not be able to either

[@pkoppart]

No Peace No Recognition No Negotiation Cannot do much when one side is stuck with these.

[@elit408]

Oh a normal person in the comments

[@BiharyGabor]

Are you referring to Netanyahu's policy?

[@epicnesssss]

@@BiharyGabor Nope, its the The Arab League in Sudan.

[@BiharyGabor]

@@epicnesssss AND Netanyahu 😉

[@Jedi_Australia]

Thank you so much. You are doing a great thing here.

[@killcondo]

I always imagined the two state solution was implemented in 1921 when 80% of Mandatory Palestine was turned over to the Hashemites who invaded trans-Jordan.

[@KingoftheJuice18]

You'd think that would count for something, wouldn't you?

[@brothermaleuspraetor9505]

Exactly, THAT IS their "Palestine", the flag is identical. But Jerusalem is not in Jordan, and the Muslims want to take Jerusalem. They will not stop until they succeed, which the rest of the world had better make sure it doesn't.

[@boatbutch]

Free Palestine...from HAMAS. Thank you for the PLO quote. The concept of "Palestinian" being the direct analogy to "Zionist" is very interesting.

[@eden3685]

Quote from Zuheir Mohsen a senior member of the Palestine Liberation Organization, "There's no such thing as a separate Palestinian people, there's no difference between Jordanians Palestinians Syrians... the Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons. The creation of a Palestinian state is a new instrument in our ongoing war against the state of Israel and for the purpose of our Arab unity. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuheir_Mohsen "Mohsen himself stated that there were "no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese", though Palestinian identity would be emphasised for political reasons. In a March 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw he stated that "between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese there are no differences. We are all part of one people, the Arab nation [...] Just for political reasons we carefully underwrite our Palestinian identity. Because it is of national interest for the Arabs to advocate the existence of Palestinians to balance Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons", representing the Ba'athist perceptive regarding the question of Palestine"

[@rogerjohnson2562]

From the River To The Sea, Israel should be free

[@mr.bozobozo5504]

darn right

[@Dave183]

There is a way to end terrorism. Democracy is a farce!

[@KaFarmerJM]

I agree❤❤

[@roberteigen4499]

once again an example of sound and well-presented information. many thanks

[@weekuah]

Always a pleasure to be able to learn so much from you.

[@amva55]

Shalom my brother. You're totally right. From a Hispanic Jew in GA USA!

[@darlingtonnyikavaranda1080]

You’re brutally honest and I love your videos

[@LifeofPani]

You're the best ❤️‍🔥🦁🙏✨️🇮🇱 Iranians love you worldwide and each night at 8pm we pray for your safe passage to victory and peace 🙏 whoever sees this comment pls join us in prayer 🙏

[@devipaduka]

I need something stronger than thumbs up for this well-thought-out, calmly expressed rational lesson which all should see!

[@charlieclown9913]

I spoke with an educator today and they don’t care about those facts. They have a theory and they must prove it right. In a nutshell they believe all humans want the same thing. Shallow.

[@nataliebivas2360]

Your last sentence explains the issue in a nutshell. Westerners can't believe that in the long run, Hamas actually does not seek peace. They can't accept that Hamas actually wants to annihilate every Jew, even at the expense of Palestinian lives.

[@tobiklaus722]

Its like looking at white and black people countries and assuming that black people want to live in poor and unstable countries.

[@freedahlogic8368]

It sounds like they need to learn about cults.

[@ManuelCampagna]

You mean educators are slaves to an ideology.

[@meganmcmullan1472]

All humans and indeed all life forms do want the same thing.

[@indonesia5star]

i also wish my father told me about muslimin society in indonesia, they can change you from a normal person to a very violent person when your patience and mental is crossed times and times again - in indonesia you need to see what happening, what they say you can filter them out. just see what they doing!!

[@thecasino111]

Go back to be a normal person. No one is forcing you

[@adigabai]

Hi Oren, excellent video like always. I would like to maybe add a couple of things: Under the Islamic law, any land captured by the Muslims will permanently become Islamic land. Which might explain why they are having such hard time "giving up" land that never had any Arab settlements. The local Arabs in the beginning wanted the land to be Southern Syria to emphasize the connection to the rest of the Arab world and sort of keep the Ottoman designation of the land.

[@heikejohannajahns3257]

And all the other land is theirs-to-become either, and every baby is a born muslim. Why does nobody talk about that damned islamic supremacy?

[@myrrhbear]

Wow, Oren. So well said. You covered so many incredibly important points here, and each one shared with accuracy and calm and care. As far as my many years of research have shown me, yes, Israel legally has full right to the land. In fact it should be pointed out that it was flat out *illegal* for the U.N. to recommend dividing the land in 1947. Why? Because at the end of WW1 when the Ottoman Empire was finally dissolved in 1922 the 51 member countries of the League of Nations *unanimously* voted to recognise the Jewish people's right to the land of Israel - and this next point you didn't mention, but I think is quite important, that the League of Nations clarified that this formal, international recognition of the Jewish people's right to the land of Israel was "not by sufferance but by historical *right* ", meaning not in compensation for the brutality done to the Jewish people for millennia, but because in truth, as evidenced by history, the land in fact belongs rightly to the Jewish people. And the next point you also didn't mention, but I think is key for correcting people's misunderstandings about Israel. So many people mistakenly, (even if well intended), believe that the U.N. *gave* half of Israel to the Arabs, and therefore for Jews to live on that land is equal to theft of the land. The fact however is that the U.N. only *proposed* the division of the land. The Jews, after decades of being violently terrorised said they'd be willing to accept this proposition and share their one and only tiny homeland if only it could mean a cessation of Arab attacks on them. (As an aside this is not peace. I won't murder you any more now that I coerced you to give me what I demanded through violence, without regard to whether I had any truthful right to it... Does that mean peace? No way.) But the following knowledge is KEY to honest and correct understanding of the rights to the land - once the League of Nations was disbanded and the United Nations took its place, the member states of the U.N. agreed to maintain all agreements and " *not alter in any manner the rights whatsoever of any states or any peoples or the terms of existing international instruments to which Members of the United Nations may respectively be parties* ” (article 80, U.N. Charter). What this means, as I said above, is that it was outright *illegal* for the U.N. to make this proposition in the first place. In any case, as you mentioned in this video, the Arabs vehemently rejected the offer, since accepting half of the land is in their eyes a crime punishable by death since it also means affirming the Jewish people's right to the other half. I desperately hope that after this war, the incredibly delayed response to a century of letting Arabs, in extreme murderous hatred butcher Jewish people, that Israel will finally STOP being apologetic or equivocating about its borders. Israel should reclaim all of the Gaza region, and all of Judea and Samaria i.e all of the land of Israel, and should make plain that these are the borders of the State of Israel and this is NOT negotiable, and no terror will be tolerated further. Every country in the world feels this is their inalienable basic right - to have clearly defined borders that are not negotiable on the basis of violent coercion from neighbours. Why does Israel struggle so hard to share this same basic right. Israel is a tiny country - similar in size to little Vancouver Island. It has been inhabited by the Jewish people for three and a half thousand years. It is the history of the Jewish people, the home, the life, and the future of her children. It is the place of our long and storied relationship with ourselves as a complex and diverse people, and of our relationship with the other peoples of the world, and the place of our long and profoundly meaningful relationship with the Creator, our G-d. To deny or obfuscate this relationship between the people of Israel and this land, is to deny not just our history and our long promised future, but it is to deny something of our very existence right to the core. It kind of reminds me of "the Nothing" that was obliterating reality in the movie The NeverEnding Story. We have no cause to be embarrassed to have clear and non-negotiable boundaries - to declare plainly - this is our land, our home. Those who want to be citizens with us and respect the laws of our land can live among us in our land, but this land is not up for grabs, and least of all to those who proclaim that their goal is to slaughter us all.

[@lordphoenexthetenth2317]

Amen. I'll never understand why it's put on us Jews to placate and appease those seeking to genocide us. Appeasement didn't sate Hitler, it didn't sate the Islamic Caliphate, and certainly won't sate the anti-Semitics now.

[@noelajones619]

As usual, your knowledge of history is A1.

[@michaelpuder3594]

Thank you, Oren, for your balanced, insightful analysis of the Israel-Palestinian conflict. As an American I am deeply surprised how we do not listen to the actual speech and goals of Palestinians. But our media ignores these obvious declarations and distorts the truth. Thank you for your clear analysis.

[@omeroner1192]

balanced? are you serious....

[@marknaj3026]

Balanced. LOL there is no occupation according to the international law.

[@DrumguyCiv]

Not balanced in the least.

[@JF-qw4bd]

You have to be kidding me. The media has been sucking up to Israel and ignoring their war crimes like a kid offered a lollipop (i.e. a lot of money) for not telling mommy he saw daddy kissing that other lady. There have npeople on tictok offerred money, and even a senator (Nasser Beydoun) was offered 20 million dollars to become a 'pro-Israel' candidate. I'm not making this up.

[@ArminUlbrich]

In my mind a very well thought out and balanced report on this complicated situation, thank you!

[@omeroner1192]

balanced ...?

[@katiska65]

THANK YOU ♥️🇫🇮♥️♥️🇮🇱 for your PRECIOUS Work👑♥️👍

[@jimboswell4818]

Oren, excellent video.

[@crimerrya]

Glory to Israel!

[@caprifolia1]

I totally agree with you. God bless Israel! Greetings from Finland

[@randomhuman2595]

💀

[@KarinBachnerMusic]

well done and well said! I recently also watched Video by Natasha Hausdorff about the international law and that there is no occupation. It was very eye opening.

[@nagaxplorer2022]

One of the sanest voices out of the current conflict. Thanks brother 🙏

[@raychingcar7881]

The prophets of Israel were very accurate with their descriptions of future events as the information came from our Creator. Note that none of them described two states, much less an Arab state within Israel. This is why no matter what outside forces such as the UN, the US, etc. insisted in dividing the land has never worked. Every time the Arabs tried to destroy the Jewish state, the Jewish state actually acquired more land. Our Creator established this during biblical times, and no man, or outside forces can change that outcome. When they try, the opposite takes place.

[@Curtlf]

And once again religion shows its ideocracy.

[@raychingcar7881]

@@Curtlf mao murdered millions. So did Stalin both were atheists. Go figure….

[@thatguy3468]

@@Curtlf Mao and Stalin both atheists. Estimated 70 million murdered.

[@arlenegojocco7518]

The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob does not want it to be divided!!! It is an inheritance of the Jews from Him. Therefore, it is not for the Jews to divide and give it out! A principle that majority don't seem to see!

[@AcidR3action]

@@thatguy3468 What's your point?

[@hrnfw4818]

Believing in a 2 state solution sadly does not mean believing in the ability to implement such a solution at present. Hate perpetuates the cycle of violence . Other places like N Ireland have come to peaceful solutions by largely disavowing the hatred that perpetuated the violence. In the foreseeable future I do not see the Arab street as willing to do this. When Islam becomes a true religion of peace as is the aspiration of some Muslims and not a guarantor of power for violent fundamentalists then perhaps the whole region could prosper. People often do not see others clearly because they project their own thoughts and values onto others that do not and will not ever function as they do. This can be a very dangerous mistake. By the same token resisting the urge to mirror the ethnocentric hatred of the neighboring countries is a huge task for Israel. As the present torch carrier for the enlightenment this is a task that we should all hope ( pray ) that they are up to.

[@farfiman]

The problem is that Keeping the idea of a 2 state solution alive perpetuates the existence of UNWRA and the hope of the Palestinians. The only way this ends is when that hope is extinguished.

[@hrnfw4818]

@@farfiman A change in the role of UNWRA must be a key component in the creation of conditions that might allow for a triumph of moderation over fundamentalism. As long as the UN has been subverted into supporting materially and philosophically an organization that advocates clearly for genocide against Israel there can be no progress. There are many barriers and little consensus.

[@whatwhat3432523]

I am not religious at all, i support liberalism and good values all over the world. Very good video!! I support Israel 100%, cant believe western liberals support these people. Absolutely disgusting from my fellow liberals. Keep going! Salutes from Norway.

[@LindaLinda80Linda]

You are doing what Israel needs to do more of and doing it well! Thank you.

[@krillr_prawn]

I wish you could be Biden's/ Blinken's advisor

[@smallfry3017]

They know all of this. The rest is politics.

[@rekaszebenyi3113]

Hahaha.. good one!😂

[@colorinrojocl197011]

Hi Oren. Excellent video. It is so clear and based in very true facts. Keep going!!! You are doing well!! Greetings from Chile.

[@zvipatent]

Abrazos desde Israel

[@colorinrojocl197011]

@@zvipatent Muchas gracias

[@colorinrojocl197011]

My friend, I have a request from you. My son is a Chayal boded. It is possible for you to do a video of them, that from all around the world there are young men and women supporting Israel in action? Perhaps this topic could be an extraordinary report. Cheers and saludos desde Chile.

[@ak983625]

As a Canadian, I wholeheartedly agree with all your points raised. More people should look beyond the simple rhetoric and see the realities of the big picture. A two state may be possible, maybe 30 -50 years down the road but Hamas and their ideology must be erased, and if possible, it will take an upheaval towards normalization of Palestinian society.

[@WorldifySanity]

Islam is the problem, unfortunately.

[@ak983625]

@@WorldifySanity The trouble with islam, and in fact all religions is that puppet masters, self called “scholars” can interpret some ancient scrolls in way they wish to brainwash the gullible masses.

[@energystream4100]

Thanks!

[@scoobydoo4087]

Excellent summary of the situation.

[@tamaramousley8597]

Oren, how about coming to America to appear on some news shows or podcasts here? Or maybe just doing a live interview from Israel. There are many places to do an interview here in the US. Love listening to what you have to say. Stay safe and keep up the good work.😊👍❤️✡️🇮🇱☮️

[@daryaelle4808]

I love this idea. We need you, Oren.

[@valerieprice-wn9qb]

God bless you and the people of Israel your videos are best information about this conflict on you tube keep sharing the truth

[@camillemitchell7397]

Yet another brilliant analysis! Many thanks for sharing your knowledge and understanding❤

[@andrewjaman4697]

This is what you got wrong: Nothing.

[@MoeSizlack-i2j]

You spelled everything wrong

[@amosamwig8394]

@@MoeSizlack-i2j Difference is you dont have sources but your feelings.

[@rosanhawkins9213]

God bless you and all of Israel. Thank you so much for your intelligent and clear presentation of the truth. It’s so greatly needed. 🙏🙏🙏🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱

[@drwatson1234]

clarity at last

[@hamentaschen]

I love the abundance of Kitty-Cameos in your videos. Thank you for what you do.

[@CeCeCanapee]

Thank you Oren -a lot to think about. What is your wish or your demand to the western world? Hope you and your friends and your family, of course especially your brothers, are well and kind of safe!

[@itaiharshoshanim-ib6kp]

Treat us like any other country.

[@unom8]

Respect international law and stop killing children

[@itaiharshoshanim-ib6kp]

@@unom8 The IDF respects international law. Hamas doesn't.

[@useyourdelusion6807]

​@@unom8😂 find an international "law" izreal is convicted of breaking. Name one war in the last 120 years, where children havnt been unfortunate casualties? All deaths are on Humas and their supporters.

[@unom8]

@@itaiharshoshanim-ib6kp There are more than 100 illegal settlements and "outposts" which are built on occupied land, but IL is treating the xstrmts settlers with kids gloves and nothing is done about them.

[@herzl67]

Sober, honest and informed. Clarifying what "the West" gets wrong.

[@pietdeboer1948]

You are right, every word. I was born in Amsterdam but understand very well why Israel should not go along with a two-state solution. Unequally, there is only one solution, those Arabs who call themselves Palestine must return to an Arab country that is also healthier for the Arabs who now live in Israel. Yala Bay

[@TheDaveRout]

Sadly I can see no resolution to this conflict that will guarantee the safety of Israel. Stay safe and stay strong

[@w5e5n53]

Sadly, and as an Israeli, I agree😭

[@mgc7199]

Isreal's safety is only declining due to their own actions. Who will care for Israel, knowing what you did and do? Soon not even the US will be able to delay justice.

[@mermaidisrael]

As an Israeli, I agree too and it breaks my heart

[@crah222]

West Bank person born in 1900: Ottoman Passport Born in 1917: British passport Born in 1948 (likely) Jordanian Passport Born in 1970: Jordanian or Palestinian passport/identity

[@rasmustorkel9568]

One point is totally correct: The Palestinians need to demonstrate that they can run a democracy across Gaza and the West Bank. If they can do that and elect a half-decent government then they might achieve statehood. One more point could have been made: In the absence of democracy, there is no one with a mandate from the Palestinian people to negotiate a two-state solution, or any other solution, on their behalf.

[@SoldierDrew]

You're a very knowledgeable historian with photographic memory. And for a Hebrew person your English language skills are outstanding.

[@eliamir2001]

אורן תודה על המלאכה היוצאת מן הכלל

[@ruZZiansBuZZoff]

middle east is already divided into two: there is an enormous arab land and a tiny jewish land!😂

[@amosamwig8394]

and still they cant take the "tiny jewish land"

[@ry6207]

That's only because the Arabs and Turks ethnically cleansed the area of Greeks, Armenians and other non muslims in the final years of the Ottoman Empire. The region was historically rich in cultural diversity.

[@CanCaner163]

İsrael is a terrorist state. Simple as that.

[@lonniet.2816]

I LEARN MUCH FROM WATCHING YOUR VIDEOS. THANK YOU.

[@nyckolaus]

Thank you, Oren!

[@kerry-anne39]

God Bless Israel💙

[@johngawrylash7732]

I must have a different God than Israel does.

[@randomhuman2595]

In international law ethnic explusions are illegal even when fighting a defensive war

[@Carlos-fc4xz]

@@randomhuman2595 So international law only affects Israel in this conflict?

[@randomhuman2595]

@@Carlos-fc4xz No, I never said that

[@td8780]

Everything you said makes sense and is well researched. Thank you for your videos, I love them.

[@Nailbunny2702]

Thanks Oren! Another informed and reasoned video. Have you thought about going on other podcasts such as Apostate Prophet, Atheist Republic, Destiny or maybe Eylon Levy's new one?

[@hfyaer]

That's some hate for Hashem right here! And also why do you want him to voice atheistic beliefs? Are you stupid? He's a tour guide.

[@Travelingisraelinfo]

Thanks! I enjoy making my videos. I am not sure podcasts are for me

[@ImZurbiStar]

I love your videos! I live in Italy (Milan) and have no relation with Israel at all, just few colleagues at work, but I'm not even jew. I am so fascinated by your state, and recently, because of the war, I started reading books and I started rejecting social media western propaganda against Israel. The deeper I go, the more I think there's not a real solution :( This makes so scary and thoughtful. I wake up in the morning thinking about this war and I go to sleep at night doing the same. I admire you israelis so much for finding a way to live even in constant threats from Hamas and other terror organizations. I am so scared of the "isolation" the world is putting you on because of ignorance and hate propaganda. Hamas for sure won social media war... I really hope the western world will change their mind on Israel and all this anti-semitic thing ends (or will sleep again, because I don't really think people can heal their antisemitism) but most of all I hope this war ends soon and you could live in peace one day :(

[@Yehonatan521]

Psalm 120 "Woe to me that I have had to dwell among the tents of Kedar (benei ishmael), too long has my soul dwelt among those who hate peace, I am peace, but the more I speak, they are for war"

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

ishmael is a wild donkey of a man, with his hand against everyone, and everyones hand against him, the Bible says...

[@avi82625]

I love your videos, keep on the good work! I love how you pronounce "piss activists" ;)

[@volcano1868]

Like shiman peres who worked so hard for it...piss

[@jackdepalma]

No democracy the isteal state 3:18

[@sheerayb]

It's impossible to understand without understanding that this is a religious war. Muslims see compromise as a sign of weakness because it's supposed to be the Jews' Holy Land. I believe it was Dr Mordechai Keidar who said that they see it as someone offering to share his wife for the sake of peace. They have no respect for that. And if we say that the land doesn't matter to us to the extent that we have no problem giving it away, they say, "So you have no right to be here." The rest of the arguments about the different value systems are absolutely true, but it is important to understand that it won't help to ignore the underlying cause. It's like a story Tzvi Yechezkeli told in an interview about his journey in religion, one about a conversation he had with Arafat. When the latter said he'd kill the former for being a Jew, Yechezkeli responded that he just identifies as an Israeli. Arafat laughed and said, "You fool, so I will kill you for something you're not."

[@ddonchiji]

True. I recall that Dr. Mordecai's interview.

[@stevenhansen5453]

Thank you Oren.

[@masada2828]

Can only agree with you.

[@sharonefee1426]

The Arabd also didn't agree when they got 80% of the land. The same land they didn't care for since the days of Muhammas cause it was empty until the Jews starting to come at the end of the 19th century.

[@jakez5894]

I have a video request please - could you please do a video on the legal and social status of non-jewish citizens in Israeli society? I'd really appreciate an in-depth look at any legal distinctions that are made, no matter how small (for instance, I've heard there's a difference in being able to assert historical property rights). I'd also appreciate a candid look at what social discrimination non-jewish citizens face, for instance in being subjected to additional security measures like searches, having difficulty finding housing/jobs in certain communities, etc. For context, I know that non-jews in Israel have full constitutional rights, but I've also heard that arab muslims face discrimination, and I've heard about examples of different legal standards being applied to jewish vs. non-jewish conduct in specific circumstances (like the aforementioned assertion of historical property rights -- like a jewish family could produce a deed from the ottoman empire asserting ownership of a plot of land, but non-jews cannot; or, isn't it the case that jews can study Torah subsidized by the State, but other religions have no similar privilege?). But I don't know the details and I'd like to be sure of what I'm saying. Also, if you can recommend any books on the same. Thanks, peace and love

[@davidhawkins5329]

Good like gold Oren. Thank you for being Intelligent, honest, tongue in cheek & consistent. ✡️🇮🇱👍😘🙏⚔️💪🇨🇦✝️