A Ukrainian counter-offensive must face Russia's 'dragon's teeth'

Ukraine's expected counter-offensive against the invading Russian army will require troops to battle through multiple layers of defence, including the 'dragon's teeth' positions.
It is unclear so far when or where the country's counter-offensive will take place, but it seems it is getting closer.
Tens of thousands of men from the country have been training abroad, and military aid has been sent from all over the world to Ukraine, along with bridging equipment and mine clearance kit.
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[@SimDeck]

If only they came to the comments section here. All the experts are here with all the great ideas.

[@reedschrichte800]

Haha yes we are all freakin' armchair generals! I listen and read all of it, and put stock in none of it.

[@davequinn2369]

Yes Sir. Move out.

[@SimDeck]

@@davequinn2369 You will not see nothing like the mighty quinn.

[@davequinn2369]

@@SimDeck when Quinn eksimo gets here everybody's going to run him. Good stuff mate

[@therione01]

This aged well.

[@thisismyname007]

In the age of satellites and drones, how do the Ukrainians expect to achieve “ surprise “???

[@tomhenry897]

Been working so far

[@vknight7497]

@@tomhenry897 no it hasnt. You don’t announce an offensive. Ukraine has lost 7 to probably 11 people for every Russian they’ve killed. Air defense network is mostly disabled and they have very little Air Force left. Russians have air superiority. Good luck launching an offensive without that. Russians have only just begun rolling out their war machine. Mobilized forces have only done 6-9 months of training. Not to mention, Iran, China, and many nations throughout Africa will be willing to provide manpower if that ever becomes necessary. Even little Egypt tried to secretly manufacturer 30,000 missiles for Russia. Ukraine is doomed. Poland will be next.

[@ATLBraves1992]

Blow up tanks/vehicles.

[@Dan-jl5ej]

The Ukrainian army had plans to DEFEND those territories. The so called "counter-offensive" is being pushed and coordinated by NATO to test the capabilities of the Russian Army. The Ukrainian army will be butchered and we will see a lot of attacks carried out by the Russian Air Force. It would be better for them to negotiate peace and allow those men to live...

[@frozzie108]

Sattelites can only take pictures of known enemy locations, and you can camouflage easily from sattelites.

[@zckbarbara]

"Russia does not have enough troops"is the joke of the day.

[@Ealsante]

Except they don't, and we know they don't.

[@tomtdh4903]

Lots of people in Russia, hardly any soldiers left now. Where are they? Surely there should be 500’000 at least but they can’t even secure their land border with the enemy.

[@willl7780]

@@Ealsante lol...is this satire?

[@massyz2968]

What you forget to mention is the Russian Air defense and absence of Air Defense and attack on Ukrainian side. Other thing to be mentioned is those defensive obstacles are not just slowing Ukr forces, but they also making them easy targets! What number of soldiers and equipment will finally be able to face fresher Russian soldiers and their heavy and rested equipment with better logistics (close by for food, ammunition, gas, ...) ... all these make it impossible for Ukrainian forces that have already lost 400K soldiers and now count on elderly and children to break through... (not just penetrate....)

[@alexkabagambe3889]

Sorry I chuckled once he said ...shooting at them the whole time 😂

[@226B-p1c]

😂😂😂

[@Andygb78]

I thought they might just watch, while the Ukrainian tanks negotiated the devil's teeth and anti-tank ditch.

[@NineSeptims]

also artillery lol

[@bremnersghost948]

Compared to the German WW2 Dragons teeth, The Russian version really need a Dentist ;-)

[@chrissmith7669]

I saw how these Just sit on the ground where the Germans had most of theirs buried. It won’t be difficult to push these aside

[@pjhgerlach]

Nothing a Ukrainian bulldozer can't handle.

[@mussydesign7933]

nice one lol

[@borisbosnjak9772]

Germany, WW2, Russia... Don't trigger anything or the last Dragons teeth defence will be near Berlin 🤔

[@upi-m6g]

This aged well

[@indiandaeng]

Only the internet arm chair generals talk about a spring offensive, not the Ukrainian military.

[@jenskruse1475]

We should have given them much more. Crossing fingers. Feeling sad for all those experiencing their last spring because of human greed.

[@tileux]

Those are not defences. Unless theyre manned theyre just obstacles. A location is only a "defence" if it is defended. And its questionable whether the russians will be able to defend these obstacles. In any case, a defensive position is only as good as its defenders.

[@colonelangus8247]

The Ukrainian offensive will require large amounts of fuel, what will happen if the Russians stop providing it?

[@mastermariner490]

Remember Ukraine have to get trough these obstacles in a rain of artillery,i am sure the russians will have both drone coverage and recon troops in the area. But in a fast swift armoured attack you might be able to break trough the first lines of defence atleast.

[@BlutoandCo]

​@@mastermariner490 you assume ruSSia will have artillery left to do that.

[@josefk332]

@@BlutoandCo It will probably begin to make greater use of its airforce in defence, which it hasn’t to date (being risk averse). There’s a danger it could turn into a shooting gallery if Ukrainian armour gets funnelled.

[@mastermariner490]

@@BlutoandCo I do,is it something they do have enough of,its artillery,i dont know about ammo though,and i am also worried about Russians getting air supremacy as well,then the Ukrainians will be sitting ducks. I dont know how many mobile air defence units they have recived from western countries,that might help offcourse

[@62gkm]

Virtually it is a war between Russia and NATO, not with so called Ukraine.

[@Mrblazed420]

Dragon teeth more like cope cones there actually worse than the ones made in ww2

[@laurencehastings7473]

You seriously underplayed the delaying aspect of minefields. A narrow breach funnels the attacking forces into a kill zone. A wide breach is too time intensive. I hope the Ukranians can infiltrate at least the first line of defence before the primary attack and at least demine or disarm several areas for breaching.

[@MrSatyre1]

That's why you breach in many places at the same time.

[@donaldkasper8346]

Called lead vehicle is D6 to D9 dozer with armor, and off if goes.

[@Growlerinthebush]

That's why there are mine clearing tanks and explosive hoses fired across minefields like the UK's Python that will set off 75% of blast susceptible mines, Ukraine (around 16 captured two hoses per vehicle) and Russia has them, the UR-77 Meteorit, one track in the trench the hose forms and either a mineplough or a mineroller will take out any of the rest and fast but they Ukraine will need a few of there to make an effective armoured assault. Anti tank ditches can be overcome with Facines, dozer tanks and armoured plant like we did in the gulf, field defences are not difficult to neutralise even under fire, as to the dragons teeth, they are falling to bits because of inferior concrete the Russians have used. Sappers build them and destroy them.

[@wolfswinkel8906]

@@Growlerinthebush inferior concrete? My goodness where do you clowns pick up these fabled tales from?

[@Benz2533]

@@MrSatyre1 or your entire assault can all die at multiple place. Are we going to ignore the dug in T-54 tank everyone keep making fun off? Where are those tank now?

[@cheeseandonions9558]

Uki's move their troops on foot, because they're terrified of wasting their precious Western toys... That's FUkraine for you

[@JohnJTraston]

So how is it going?

[@MrSatyre1]

Won't do them any good if they can't man them with sufficiently armed, trained and motivated troops.

[@comradericefarmerhao2269]

Ukraine side definitely

[@Soshiaircon91]

The genius part of the Russian defense? They literally do not need motivated troops, just shovels and dig long and deep enough trenches place enoug mines and layout the dragonteeth. On the other hand Ukrainian have ammunition, manpower training, supplies and all the sorts of stuff to worry about.

[@lani6647]

No they won’t have to,pierce this front defensive line. They’ll just go somewhere where the defences aren’t.

[@nightspore4850]

Yep. I’m sure the tactical and logistical details are complicated as hell, but the strategy seems clear enough. Generals and other experts have been discussing it for months: cut the land bridge. Where you cut it and how you cut it is up to you. Once the supply lines have been cut, Crimea is isolated except for the Kerch Strait bridge, which at that point would be within range. Obviously it will be anything but easy to do, but it’s not something the Russians can control over thousands of square miles by digging some trenches and laying some mines.

[@willl7780]

@@nightspore4850 this was a fun fantasy for a while lol

[@keithwhittington1322]

To get through the lines of defense, all the Ukrainians have to do is ask Russia to get the artillarists to stop firing. It's simple!

[@limedickandrew6016]

And politely ask the Russian air force to take a holiday.

[@joeswanson5486]

@@limedickandrew6016well they have been for the most part. S300s and now patriots are pretty good air defenses and that’s why Russias air-force is mainly picking on American drones in the Black Sea or in Syria where there isn’t much of an Ariel threats

[@AZTrigger]

"Fixed fortifications are monuments to man's stupidity." -George Patton

[@cliffordwebb3656]

Good old George. Wasn't he as mad as a hatter?

[@dhurjatinarayangiri6995]

remember battle of kursk

[@RonsarLo]

It's a shame we can't find them another 100 tanks. And it's a half-assed attempt at help that we haven't been training their pilots for months now.

[@thatsbollox]

Dont ever be fooled into thinking the Americans will supply "enough" of anything. I truly hope you understand the goal is not to create some sort of quantifiable Ukranian victory.....neither the west nor russia wants that to happen. America always supplies just the right amount to keep a conflict going. The goal is always continuance, not to bring an end to it. This is proving absolute perfection for them...they dont even need to risk one of their own. Just let the machine dribble in some weapons at regular intervals to keep it going....and not the good stuff of course, just the surplus old stock.

[@richlopez5896]

Ukraine will quickly recapture territory and that will encourage NATO to send more tanks. Denmark is sending 85 Leopard 1a5 tanks this summer and the 31 M1a1 Abrams from the USA will be in combat by August.

[@gargar8196]

Why are we there? Don’t we have enough problems in this country

[@thatsbollox]

@@richlopez5896 What possible difference do you think all of them can make ? It is 50+ yo tech and equipment being offloaded at a good price. Denmark will be v happy to get a good price and get the useless surplus equipment off the books. They can now buy shiny new stuff. Even the Abrams the Americans agreed to supply are not their main battle tank. They agreed to build new ones using the old design and with none of the modern weaponry. The Russians have literally thousands of this old stock equivalent and its only useful for training and as mobile artillery pieces these days. Educate yourself on how war works. The idea is not to "win" anything....it is a business. It is the best of business when u dont need to risk any of your own lives. There is a mathematical certainty that cannot be debated in this conflict....and the west is already becoming bored with it. I hope another doesnt come along soon and Ukr suddenly forgotten in the haste to turn a better profit elsewhere.

[@daydays12]

@@gargar8196 oh pitiful ignorant comment. why do anything to help your neighbour when their house is burning eh because you are so concerned about your own house, which isn't burning. unpleasant neighbour you are

[@theaterofsouls]

damn, i'm like reading comments about NBA in the finals lol

[@MusicHimanshu]

I would use these ukrainian forces as a defensive force and diplomatic tool to agree on peace terms.

[@zamraaj0652]

Assault across a major water obstacle like Dnieper River is the most difficult and complicated military operation, more so, when the defender has the preponderance of fire power and air support. I doubt if the Ukrainians will venture into that. At the most, it can be a feint with main assault going north of Bakhmut.

[@cultugarvealgarve7380]

Nothing compared with D-Day Normandy june 1944.

[@SeanD808]

I have heard they have been creating dams and diverting river flows... just sharing..

[@zamraaj0652]

@@SeanD808 Quite possible. Very few acknowledge the criticality of this war. It is a make or break moment for the Western world hegemony. Therefore NATO will do everything within its means to destroy Russia beyond recognition.

[@LunaticTheCat]

There's no strategic value to attacking north of Bahkmut. Everything revolves around Crimea.

[@zamraaj0652]

@@LunaticTheCat This war is not about Crimea or any other territory. It's about keeping Russia embroiled in a war for long enough to cripple it economically and militarily. In fact it is a replay of Afghnistan vs the Soviet Union. Any offensive aimed at capturing Crimea would need far more resources than presently held by Ukraine. Even if this force succeeds in capturing a sizable territory, it will not be left with enough strength to hold it against the furious Russian counter attacks. What happened to Napolean and Hitler in Russia may stand repeated.

[@hullabaloo9824]

Another armchair general here :): Is it possible that this counteroffensive will not be so dramatic? at least not yet. An offensive operation is risky and while the Ukrainians 'talk it up' the Russians are worrying, moving resources and troops to more defensive formations, having to stay on high alert and combat readiness (tiring) and all their internal politics are playing out and potentially boiling over. All the while, Ukraine can perfect their logistics and continue combined arms training. Were I an actual general, I might be tempted to just wait for the Russians to mess up in some way and then exploit that, rather than piling into a prepared defense? It might be that there are a series of feints and small scale actions, but not all that much will happen for months yet.

[@eastendguy485]

It is my understanding the so called dragon teeth are completely ineffective.

[@marc0110j]

By themselves yes, but it combination with mines and wire they are an obstacle which force the attacker to slow down and concentrate. The area in front will be registered by artillery to exploit the slowdown. The line of dragons teeth provide an excellent visual reference of range and main defensive line is set at the optimal distance to exploit the advantages of ATGMs and other mid range weapons. They are part of a layered defence that can only be dismissed as inconsequential by people observing and opining from a very safe distance.

[@bigdarshan]

​@@marc0110j thanks for the explanation. Yes indeed the dragons teeth can be a rangefinder for artillery.

[@Ealsante]

@@marc0110j The inaccuracy of russian fire means any 'pre-registration' is likely on an area basis. They simply don't have the capability to consistently one-shot targets, and their artillery is outranged and therefore vulnerable to counterbattery fire. And that, of course, assumes the defence IS layered - it should be, and in a NATO army it would be, but this is not a NATO army.

[@marc0110j]

@@Ealsante Disparaging the fighting capabilities of Russian forces was a popular pastime for Germans far from the eastern front. Moscow, Stalingrad, Kursk and Berlin proved the "innate superiority" thesis to be false. Substitute the Axis armies of 1941 with the NATO. The "innate superiority" theory dismissed the rice farmers of Vietnam and the goat herders of Afghanistan. Artillery is, by its nature, an area weapon not designed for pinpoint accuracy. Any significant Ukrainian offensive will involve large numbers of vehicles and men; it will be a large target to which the natural dispersion of artillery is ideally suited. Weight of fire is contributed by the artillery and mortars; individual targets are engaged by ATGMs and direct fire from tanks and anti-tank guns. In the present conflict, drones have largely replaced artillery in the counter battery role so the range advantage, though it still exists, has been diminished in significance.

[@iloveaviation-burgerclub-a8145]

Dragon teeth that are not connected to each other are worthless. A pioneer tank will just push it aside. One made a good cut saving these costs. Corruption loses wars...

[@ericconnor8419]

This was how the British ones were made in WW2, we did not just leave them loose on the soil: 'Behind minefields were the dragon's teeth. They rested on a concrete mat between ten and thirty meters wide, sunk a meter or two into the ground (to prevent any attempt to tunnel underneath them and place explosive charges). On top of the mat were the teeth themselves, truncated pyramids of reinforced concrete about a meter in height in the front row, to two meters high in the back.'

[@shanelambert6192]

One thing Ukraine has lots of its corruption

[@iloveaviation-burgerclub-a8145]

@@shanelambert6192 oh boy. There is no country without corruption becaus a country always has humans. But the amount of corruption seen in russia is some potences higher than in any other country of the world. You may hang on to whataboutism but still you are not able to accept that russia is just a country any leader took advantage of since centuries.

[@esmenhamaire6398]

@@shanelambert6192 due to the Soviet legacy, yes, and they are trying very hard to tackle that - which is amongst the reasons they went for independence first chance they got. But Russian corruption ifs FAR superior. A land so rich in resources, yet some Russians hadn't seen a flushing toilet before being sent to invade Ukraine and marveled at ordinary people being able to afford to live in brick houses?? How did that come to be? Maybe it has something to do with Putin and his cronies spending national income on themselves rather than improving life for Russian citizens?

[@daydays12]

@@shanelambert6192 used to. Russia has huge amounts of corruption with the most corrupt being Putin

[@paulharrington2747]

As scott rittor says they,re all gonna die.

[@youareliedtobythemedia]

He also claims he's not a peso, and yet he's convicted

[@comradericefarmerhao2269]

@@youareliedtobythemedia the feds got him

[@tanewoodley9806]

And anger, probably a whole lot of anger.

[@placeofvalue]

There is shovels and prisoners to resolve any breakthrough.

[@trevortrevortsr2]

Anyone in the trenches will be buried alive

[@stephenlamb9008]

That's western potatoes propaganda machine in action.

[@dan9002]

Heard the same thing during Dessert Storm. They overcame it by pivoting.

[@williambunting803]

The dragons teeth can be resolved with armored D11 bulldozers. These are relatively cheap. Bulldozers can resolve the mines simply by pushing them aside with the dirt snow plow fashion. It’s likely to be a dramatic process. The trenches, too are a no effort challenge. The dozers would work at night, and could well be remotely driven. The dragons teeth would be pushed aside. The D11 can push 40 cubic meters of material ahead of the blade. The D11’s are no slug speed wise able, if I read it correctly, to transit at 80 kph in transit between work sites.

[@Toronto-Brad]

The problem with that from my perspective as a layman is the dozer is just opening up an artillery kill zone. Anyone that follows the dozer or any vehicle is dead or destroyed.

[@williambunting803]

@@Toronto-Brad That is what the whole area is, a kill zone. But it has to be breached as quickly as possible. One would expect that there would be a considerable effort to eliminate as much artillery with the Himars ahead of an attempt to drive through. There are patterns a D11 can perform to create protection for the pathway as the Dozer drives through. Just by driving in a zig zag pattern for instance the dragons teeth tipped on their side with the point towards the enemy will provide excellent cover for the following troops. Another technique is to use a tank with a boring head attached similar to the one the Russians brought into Solidar to extend a mine shaft into Bakhmut for an underground tunnel attack, which failed as the Ukrainians figured it out and were waiting.

[@Ealsante]

@@Toronto-Brad That's why you're seeing shaping operations dealing with ammo and fuel near the front lines. russian artillery isn't like Western artillery, with guided rounds. They rely on, say, 50 shots to ensure 1 kill. If they only have 20 shots, then the spearhead will break through.

[@willmears1111]

The Russian Maginot line will be sidestepped, and the Russian cannon fodder will decide to surrender, if they are smart.

[@slavaukraini54]

Just saw a video of Marders rolling past a line of destroyed dragon teeth lol

[@slavaukraini54]

On Telegram

[@X-jn87ybt]

From fighting nazis to supporting Nazis, West and allies forefathers will be proud.

[@Squareheed]

We've seen the quality of these 'dragons teeth', they're hollow concrete with thin rebar. The tanks will squash them with ease.

[@cultugarvealgarve7380]

Those Dragon teeth lines are the very cheap knockoff from the indeed ( still now adays)heavy West German Siegfried line, in end1944, that was supposed to stop those small Sherman tanks. As we know a few month later the war was over.

[@JK-qn9qr]

yeah modern warfare doesn't work that way.

[@Poramola007]

Yes Russians ended the war. They fought 95% of the German army.

[@TheRealBillBob]

Looks like the battlefield is littered with western tanks and they haven't even gotten close to Russia's first defensive line yet. You fail clown.🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@markkrajnik]

OK here is the problem, Ukraine is a huge farming community there are lots of dirt movers available good luck russia!!

[@donaldkasper8346]

Any dozer can clear a mine field, just dump the mines in the pushed dirt, let them blow in the dirt. So what.

[@hadinapokalix7329]

they couldnt stop the russians with the best of their ukranian forces which are dead what makes you think theyll be able to now??

[@raylp4751]

The West should have gone all out supplying Ukraine. But as with tanks they are several months behind. Bit by bit the West gives in a little bit more. But I fear its not been in good time and not everything needed. If Ukraine Counters without air cover and heavy long range bombard armour Russia will have the ability to dig in and reinforce. Russia still has a lot of fire power and due to time have learnt lessons.

[@SeanD808]

Ukraine is running out of soldiers....

[@daydays12]

@@SeanD808 you are running out of friends

[@willl7780]

the LGBTQ empire is running out of gear to give ukraine

[@aussfish9995]

This is going to be tough, most of the newly trained soldiers have never seen combat, Ukraine will have very limited air cover and their staff officers have limited experience relating to combined arms operations. Courage will only take you so far on the battle field. One last point and attacking force is meant to out number the defender by a 3 to 1 ratio. I don’t see how they can pull it off.

[@st-ex8506]

I give you right on your first two points. On your third point, UAF staff now has recent real-life experience of combined arm operations. Moreover, they are closely coached by the masters in the matter, the American (and British) armed forces. The attacker must indeed have superiority (the ratio is not fixed but depends on circumstances), but they must only have LOCAL superiority, which can easily be achieved, as the attacker chooses the battlefield, while the defender must spread its resources along the entire front. If it was only a matter of overall superiority in numbers and weaponry, then the Germans would have been crushed by the French army in June 1940. But they won, as they concentrated their attack on a weakness of the French defense... and pierced through. So, can the UAF achieve a large local superiority on, say, a 10-20 km broad front? Definitely!

[@aussfish9995]

@@st-ex8506 Yes well said, if they punch through I hope they can protect their flanks and have there resupply and logistics sorted. The Germans were well trained and incredibly well lead by their officer core. I hope Ukraine can achieve its goals and drive the Russians from their land. I’m

[@therighthonsirdoug]

The Russians don't have the required forces to effectively cover the entire front. These defensive lines mean little if they aren't backed up by mobile defence forces. Personally I can't see the Russians, who are now largely poorly trained conscripts, putting up much of a defence. Yes the lack of Ukrainian air assets may also be an issue but equally the Russians have been reluctant to risk their own aircraft, in part because their IFF is terrible and they have shot down several of their own aircraft! I'm not saying that the Ukrainians will roll them over and it will be interesting to see what sort of an offensive is mounted and how effective it will be. The one thing that I continue to be staggered by is the aparent failure of the Russians to learn by their mistakes.

[@aussfish9995]

@@therighthonsirdoug I’m worried about their officer core in the field, many of their most experienced soldiers have already been killed and wounded. I’m worried about the multitude of different weapons systems and ammunition they are using. Many of whom I guess will have to be repaired in Poland. I’m worried about there lines of communication a lot of things really 😂😂 The Russians must have reserves able to move forward to counter an offensive. The Ukraines would have incredible intell from the Americans and perhaps have located them and will see them move, still I’m worried. The Russians have learnt there elite units are incredibly good at defence. There withdrawal from Kherson was well executed with the bulk have their forces and equipment in tact not east yo do. They have the Ukrainian’s pinned their and they are unable to advance

[@joelrunyan1608]

Kherson ? Kharkiv. Offensives? Does your memory not work?

[@anhconroy6172]

If we don't want to see Putin and his army in Europe, we must help Ukraine with arms until it wins.

[@valeryferry1658]

To prevent a rise in casualties, it is crucial to stop Putin's actions, requiring Ukraine's total victory and a return to the 1991 borders

[@audraklein9765]

He's right - Ukraine should definitely be helped, otherwise they will go even further and it will be worse for the whole world!!!

[@audraklein9765]

@@valeryferry1658 It's a pity that the whole world hasn't realized this yet, the problem could have been solved long ago if Russia had been destroyed already

[@scottjock]

Like the Magino line. Go round it.

[@chabangmalapane3985]

From South Africa 4 months later 70000 Ukrainians dead😂😂

[@johnfisher9238]

The use of MicLics today makes breaching mine fields and most static defenses a thing of the past. The only drawback is it narrows the avenues of approach. Ukraine has quite a few of them. And as an Engineer officer in the Iraq invasion I know well trained bridging units can install bridges extremely fast. With today's ability to pinpoint artillery with close medium and deep strike capabilities a lot of these WW2 defenses won't stop an advancing army very long if at all, but as I know all plans go to hell after the first contact. The Russians centralized decision making again will be its weak point. I see a lot of armchair generals in this blog... .

[@jonber9411]

"I see a lot of armchair generals in this blog." You're in good company then. But i find your post interesting. I believe the Russian tactic of digging in, will fail horribly

[@johnfisher9238]

@@jonber9411 Not to many other options than to dig in, but it has its drawbacks . I was a senior Army planner for 8 years and served in command in Iraq, Afghanistan,and Africa. Also as the chief of stability operations IJC in Kabul. Was not always in an armchair.

[@jonber9411]

@@johnfisher9238 You are correct, that they lack options. They seem awfully spread out, maybe a withdrawal to better positions, so that they would have had a shorter front line. And also they seem to lack effective maneuver brigades and trained personnel as of now, what are they going to counter with on sections that Ukraine have success in? That was my belief, the lack of counters, combined with bad morale and many series of defeats and setbacks, i foresee a collapse of their efficiency as a fighting force. But who knows?

[@arthurjones-z4m]

what will create russias pandemonium is a nation wide multifront assault

[@druyou2321]

So don’t be caught out in the open in fixed positions against NATO cough Americans? I hear when partisans retrofit drones to drop Molotovs on your fixed entrenchment you’re - you’ve got problems. Good to see Murphys Law still in play - ie plans going to hell on first contact.

[@montymuvideos]

It is impossible. Lack the soldiers, lack the equipment, lack the ammunitions, no air defence system, how can you attack well defenced battle line with a larger army?ukraine will lose this war. Must stop fight, and start the negotiation for a better peace plan.

[@rogerwilco5918]

Source on what they have?

[@peterkogl1329]

Total annihilation for Ukraine

[@esmenhamaire6398]

Let me direct you to WW2, North Africa, where a British force of 2 divisions bested an Italian force. From Wikipedia: "The British Commonwealth force, totalling 36,000 men,[26] attacked the forward elements of the 10-division-strong Italian army on 9 December.[27] Following their initial success, the forces of Operation Compass[28] pursued the retreating Italian forces.[29] In January, the small port at Bardia was taken,[30] soon followed by the seizure of the fortified port of Tobruk.[31] Some 40,000 Italians were captured in and around the two ports, with the remainder of the Tenth Army retreating along the coast road back to El Agheila. Richard O'Connor sent the 7th Armoured Division across the desert with a small reconnaissance group. It reached Beda Fomm some ninety minutes before the Italians, cutting off their retreat. Although they tried desperately to overcome the British force at the Battle of Beda Fomm, the Italians were unable to break through, and the remnants of the retreating army surrendered. Over 10 weeks Allied forces had destroyed the Italian Tenth Army and reached El Agheila, taking 130,000 prisoners of war in the process" The Ukraninian soldiers are fighting for their homeland, and very determined about retaking the territories still under Russian control, whilst most of the Russian soldiers know they are being treated as cannon fodder and don't want to be there. Russian troops have been captured with rusty AK47s they'd been issued with, and Russian equipment generally isn't as god as the weaons supplied to Ukraine by the west. Ukrainian soldiers are being trained before being sent into combat - Russian soldiers are not. The officers of the Ukrainian army, particularly the ones that have received Western training, show more initiative and competence than their Russian counterparts, and the Ukrainian GHQ clearly knows what it's doing far better than its Russian equivalent. Russia needs to comply with the numerous treaties it has signed over the years, instead of wiping its collective arse with them. If Russian troops return to Russian territory, the war stops immediately. If Russia persists in not merely invading another countries sovereign territory but behaving like a bunch of unkulturny uncivilised barbarians, it will inevitably lose, because there is no way that Europeans will let such a vile bunch of Russian Nazi Orcs rule over them. Ultimately, if Russia continues with this war, it will destroy itself, and the rest of the world will cheer its demise.

[@audraklein9765]

Ukrainians are really real heroes - they should be supported until they win!!!

[@Cptnbond]

It will be horrendous losses on both sides, unfortunately. The men that RuSSia have stationed in the defense trenches will for sure die, either from the advancing Ukrainian forces, or be shot by their own commanders to prevent them retreating in panic - not one step back as Stalin said...

[@joeswanson5486]

It’s been 2 months and the Russians have retreated from a decent amount of land. I’m still waiting for the videos of Russians shooting their own retreating in this offensive

[@Tripl3blue]

good luck godspeed Ukraine!

[@lowros7786]

All year we’ve been over estimating Russia’s strength - Ukraine have the best planners in the western world behind them. They’re hardly going to let themselves be funnelled in a minefield.

[@stephenlamb9008]

Best brains in the west telling them shell civilians to compensate for troop losses, that way you won't lose soldiers.

[@TheRealBillBob]

Two months later. Ukraine got funneled into minefields all up and down the front. And they are no where close to the dragonsteeth. You fail, clown. 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@joeswanson5486]

Well you should’ve saw this and not be delusional. I don’t see how you think a country with a military budget of 60 billion and gdp of 2 trillion is the 2nd strongest world power especially when you factor in most of their men are conscripts and equipment is old.

[@joeswanson5486]

Russia has a large modern military but the large and the modern parts are separate. Compare that to a country like the Us or even China which have large modern militaries

[@TheRealBillBob]

@@joeswanson5486 And yet 18 months later, US/NATO is still too scared to jump in. Why is that? I think what you perceive to be reality is just window dressing.

[@bepolite6961]

Yeah, like the Siegfried line worked well!

[@johnriley215]

I think getting through the dragons teeth and trenches will be nearly "not an issue" for Ukrainians. I don't think they will even be worth mentioning as Ukraine will be prepared for them.

[@wolfswinkel8906]

We've got a seer here.

[@theaterofsouls]

@@wolfswinkel8906 hahahahha

[@willl7780]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 how do you feel now?

[@JohnCSmith-lp1qr]

When Counteroffensive ? Asking for a friend 😂

[@foilhat1138]

Cope cones.

[@bbbabrock]

I suspect it is just the nature of the beast, but I suspect if we gave them 300, they would then say they need 400.

[@Joe-li3zj]

Shear courage means sending men to die

[@michaelh.sanders2388]

"Hit 'em where they ain't. Hit 'em on the end and get there first with the most men." Nathan Bedford Forrest

[@Andygb78]

Oh no, not razor wire. I don't think my tank can cope with that.

[@-oysterthief4444]

This whole ordeal seem like ww1, Russia must be so proud of itself.

[@timkline162]

Are these the same dragon's teeth that Ukraine's tanks drove over like they were speed bumps?

[@2011metalmaniac]

Spoke a bit too soon there

[@jamesgovin5625]

Dragon teeth today just becomes another quick fix target. They really only slow down very temporarily.

[@ATLBraves1992]

Go around it. Like the maginot line. Go for the hard crossing that’s undefended.

[@cauwenberghsroeland8607]

I suppose that is what the Russians expect to happen.

[@MrDK0010]

Are you suggesting going through Belarus? Because that's what it is.

[@lambertlum1087]

The northern border with Russia is almost undefended. Not many defensive structures too. Ukraine could swing through Russian territory in the North and cut off supply lines feeding Donbas.

[@cauwenberghsroeland8607]

@@lambertlum1087 I am not sure russians are apes. But I am sure a lot os westerners think "all others" are apes. So it can become easy to trap the arrogant. Ask Afghani. China too "were just able to produce poor copies,' no ? And dinky toys, I forgot. Okay, military, most of them , are apes. Old man with a belly, few grey hair, short pants, making big steps the drumms rolling, to pin each other a medal of ridicu, euh, honour... That desease will of course allso occur among russian officers . So, maybe what you say is true. But what if not ?

[@NineSeptims]

@@lambertlum1087 America already said any invasion of Russian territory is not permissible and it was one of the things Ukraine agreed to in exchange for the military aid. That was the price of accepting foreign weaponry any advancement must be in Ukraine and ends at Russia's borders.

[@lloydliveryservices]

Hundreds of years ago, the Chinese also builded thousands of miles it call the great wall but they could not stop the invader to take their lands and now do you think the dragons teeth can stop the Ukrainian army to take back their lands?

[@GungaLaGunga]

A few A10 Warthogs would knock out all those teeth in a few hours.

[@joeswanson5486]

Reason why f16s are in the table and not a10s is because a10s are good against insurgents that aren’t equipped with manpads or modern air defenses systems or large decently modern air forces.

[@codedlogic]

We’ve had this war before (desert storm). It’s well known WWII defenses are no match for modern Western equipment and tactics. The question isn’t if Ukraine will be able to breach them. The question is will Ukraine be able to maintain momentum once they’ve punched through.

[@BKVP]

Iraq was bombed for months prior to that offensive. In fact, to properly compare the two forces to Desert Storm... it is Russia that would be the Allied Forces and Ukraine would be Iraq. Ukraine has the same chances of winning this war as Iraq had of winning that one.

[@codedlogic]

@@BKVP Russia doesn’t have air dominance. Russia hasn’t eve hit a SINGLE supply train or arms shipment in 14 months. Russia still doesn’t have air dominance. Has had its ships sunk. Most of its tanks built in the past fifty years have been turned to scrap. And has suffered enormous casualties. They’re DEFINITELY not like the USA in the gulf war.

[@BKVP]

@@codedlogic this depends on which sources of information you choose to believe are accurate. Russia is either amazingly incompetent with worthless equipment, or they are deliberately limiting their actions and securing/defending the regions they now control. Yes, Russia has taken some shots, thanks to American Intel and American drones and American Special Forces actions. Ukraine, on the other hand, no longer has an Army, 80% of their forces have been killed or crippled since the conflict began.

[@cauwenberghsroeland8607]

And, desert storm was not understandable for allways drunken idiots. I see.

[@markwillies7666]

@@BKVP Your 2nd paragraph refers. They could be both.

[@whitebeauty759]

Hey Vla, hoe vindt je zelf dat het gaat? Het weer is een beetje heel erg bewolkt in Sebastopol. Hihihi. 🙂

[@martijnijsendoorn6911]

misschien in het russisch typen..hier begrijpt putler geen reet van he!

[@life-eu]

It's just a trap! You don't atack the Lion! In the best you defend!

[@cauwenberghsroeland8607]

Facing them, crossing them, is not THAT diffiult, but would take enough time to allow artllery to strike. So it has to be prepared, takes time, but is not a real barrier. The problem is rather it complicates the combined-force tactics , and can impose enough casualities before the ways trough are maid. And after all, under atrillery-cover, ...some lories of earth, metal shields, and anyone gets over. Again , the artillery has to slow down the movement, but for that, the artillery has to show where she is. I don't believe Russians believes in it. They know Westerners think they are apes adicted on vodka. I suppose they have some other playcards hiding in sleeves, sock, a miror above your head, ...while you are focusing ont those dragon-teeth....

[@Soshiaircon91]

Go check out how a Dragon teeth works, it is extremely sturdy and hard to clear thats why its is very difficult to breach with heavy vehicles, for the counter-offensive to work it have to be fast and taking artillery strikes takes too long. Not to mention the Russian outgun the amount of artillery firepower the Ukrainians have and US and NATO has openly mention the there amount of Shells and ammunition monthly hardly last Ukrainians a week. In short though I want to root for the Ukrainians but it is not looking good for them, their supplies most probably will only grant them a short window for a counter offensive and the defensive fortification waiting for them probably will exhaust all their supplies by then. After the counter offensive most probably geopolitics will come into play and you will see more NATO or EU nations starts to maybe rethink drafting a blank check to Ukraine thinking it may end up like the stalemate of Korean War with the 38th parallels drawn with a DMZ and truce till this day.

[@cauwenberghsroeland8607]

@@Soshiaircon91 I would never break a dragon teeth... Bush earth around , over, metal sheet and ride. Minefields...already a solution, ever did harvest wheat? System "rolling" the heavy sticks or bullets, if it explodes, in the air... Technic is known. Need to identify places where some shoots on the robots doing the job; and eliminate with artillery or short-tance drones... Passing is "nothing', but will be noticed, and so there will be an atilery-duel, and means to destroy artillery. Both have, both have to few. Best is wait, resist, and give in where you want them...to cut them of of supplies. "Korea" would be bas for all, but maybe the only one accepted by USA. Chinese-led army to ovccupy amm contested areas, rebuild, and at the end, 12 years something, lert eacht oblast de decide... An "Americain peace" means war without end...

[@Aleks-dg9cx]

Everything is easy, when you aren't there and not doing it yourself

[@xxxxLidiyaxxxx]

Dragon teeth- lol there are videos and pictures of these structures that already are falling to pieces 😂

[@cultugarvealgarve7380]

See the still strong west german Siegfriedline in 1944, that didn t work.

[@willl7780]

to bad ukraine could not even get that far

[@soton5teve]

*dragons teeth - just fill in the gaps with mounds of earth* 🇺🇦

[@cheeseandonions9558]

"operational speed" LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

[@legatilegions8055]

people keep saying tanks, but they recived a total of 1800 armored vehicles from the west, at this moment 98% of all weapons materiel has been delivered to ukraine, what they need is time to train, even tho more tanks never hurts

[@konggg]

With the aid of satellite imagery and local intelligence of the topography, an outflanking manoeuvre is possible.

[@MUNRA476]

I don't think so molar of the dragon don't work😅

[@reginaldlagrone5082]

I am sure the Ukrainians will have some surprises. Do some impressive things during their offensive but it's going to be costly. I expect it to be raining missiles and bombs.

[@tjoftjof]

ukraine will never get the lost territory back. It's a wet dream. Just saying. Ask me next year how I predict that.

[@zoner__]

More like Dragon Breath.

[@jagosingh85]

Russia does not have any teeth. Period.

[@alberthenriette8976]

For the first time in this conflict the world gonna see the Russian airforce in action. It's not funny.

[@st-ex8506]

So-called "dragon teeth" are no decent anti-tank obstacle, but more of a propaganda stunt. To be a problem for armor to cross they would need to be a) ca an order of magnitude heavier, b) anchored in a thick underground concrete slab, and c) under AT fire on the whole length of the line. You can still visit the so-called "Toblerone lines" that the Swiss army erected against WW2-era tanks. THOSE "teeth" are not toys! What is IMHO genuinely concerning are minefields... those are real threats.

[@Poramola007]

Russia should flood the anti tank ditches with water from dinepro.. heavy NATO tanks cant handle mud.

[@Cue_D_ball]

I’ll tell you what general why don’t you go there and do something instead of being a keyboard warrior

[@MrKbtor2]

The advantage is with the Ukrainians. They are smart enough and confident enough to know to train to to a degree that is enough to achieve breaching success. or else they wouldn't go. That's what the Russians should be scared of. Or any defensive force for that matter

[@Zelensky_Huilo]

lol! A year ago, Ukraine had thousands (!) of tanks. And here there is talk only about a couple of hundred... of which there may actually be just one hundred. Very funny.

[@youareliedtobythemedia]

Completely different league of tanks

[@Zelensky_Huilo]

@@youareliedtobythemedia Wunderwaffe? Very funny.

[@youareliedtobythemedia]

@@Zelensky_Huilo no. But comparing old t72 to leo2 is like comparing a lada to a porsche

[@michealnagy5763]

Dragons teeth have been encountered and defeated before.

[@glintongordon6811]

When? This time it's in a layer tho

[@michealnagy5763]

@@glintongordon6811 it was before as well.

[@michealnagy5763]

I was trained to breach such things!

[@actinium2754]

The point of dragon's teeth isn't to stop the enemy but impede them. The amount of men, resources and planning needed to bypass a slab of concrete is why they're valuable.

[@michealnagy5763]

@@actinium2754 well aware of this! I was trained to breach the defensive network during Desert Storm. You absolutely correct though. The trick is to be able to to do it quickly and efficiently as possible, and to go where the Emmy least expect it

[@Andyb2379]

Simply go around the side as history has shown previously.

[@SLPCaires]

across the river

[@PHDarren]

Via Russia and attack from behind.

[@dejanperic6770]

​@@PHDarren or go through Romania than all the way to Asia and then atack Siberia 😂

[@SkyGlitchGalaxy]

@@PHDarren ???? This isn't Hearts of Iron.

[@GARDENER42]

@@dejanperic6770 Your geographical knowledge is sorely lacking...

[@tomosa6880]

Dragons teeth can be shoved out the way, so long as they're de-mined, mores the point of minefields. , Clearing the way, and keeping it clear.

[@claudemaggard7162]

Them obstacles are not gonna stop western tanks.. i mean come on. They got ways to take care of the mines. That is all they really need to worry about

[@markell598]

Keep underestimating the Russians negative negative negative, Ukraine on the other hand has all this update western military hardware with thousands of western trained Ukraine troops, but as you so rightly point out the front line has hardly moved, it must be the Russian military shovels that's holding the Russian line. 😂

[@vonniofdoom5590]

Probably will be the bloodiest counter offensive in history

[@offthemountains]

In history? Do you lack a brain?

[@andersonlangosh6386]

Well the whole area of the East of Ukraine already looks like a postapocalyptic scenery from some movie. But I'm sure that this counter-offensive will be more than successful. Ukrainian people deserve not only our respect but also our help in their fight for freedom.

[@evgeniybastrykov]

You are mistaken, the bloodiest offensive was the Russian one at the very beginning of the conflict, when the Russian army lost a significant part of its army in the offensive and lost the opportunity of active combat operations

[@shuathe2nd]

Given the staggering losses on the Eastern Front in WW2 I doubt any war will come close to that ever again - modern warefare is literally that - modern, so massed civilians conscripted and told to share a rifle and 5 rounds of ammunition are a thing of the past, as modern weapons are just too effective against the unarmed, as we are about to find out in Ukraine, where the russian forces are now exhausted and ready to collapse. Hopefully they will pack up and march back to Moscow and carry out some much needed regime change.

[@JosephGibson]

@@evgeniybastrykov LOL LOL LOL Fool. Ukraine lost a lot in the first 24 hours with over 800 targets hit by strikes... i know, you missed that. No, they were not infrastructure because Russia did not begin bombing infrastructure until well after peace negotiations collapsed and there was no way to the table... so began bombing road, rail, energy and many other. Oh, those tens of thousands of Ukrainians trained by NATO from 2014 (You know about that, don't you?) who were positioned in the Donbas ready to assault the LPR/DPR before Russia attacked, many were wiped out... sad, i know. In fact, you know absolutely f all about what is going on... let me guess, you thought Ukraine would be marching on Moscow by now? The cost Ukraine has paid for this war instigated by elected and unelected warmongers in the West, primarily, in the US... is beyond a joke! Ukrainians are paying in blood to finish off what Biden and his merry men started while he was VP. Who cares... Ukraine should dig in as they have done because this force they have mustered will join the countless others that are dead, captured and injured. What? What do you think has happened to the tons of equipment sent in the months after they attacked? What do you think has happened to all that equipment in the south and east with their counter-offensive? I know, because I have listened and read the videos and articles of interviews from Ukrainians involved including mercenaries! You fool.

[@maartenrog]

Antitank minefields use light vehicles if the antitank mine doesnt explobe becausse of less waith is this true but 1st also mines against infantry 1 destroy. Maybe improve the botten of car tank vehicles with extra protecting armouri should delay attack if that is acceptabel if not dont

[@hhvictor2462]

Russia holds all the cards. 'nuff said.

[@Ealsante]

Hey, take the cope smoking outside! No smoking indoors!

[@orvalprosacco1951]

We must support Ukraine and send her as many weapons as she needs. She must win this year and no other way! There is no need to prolong the conflict.

[@valeryferry1658]

The priority is to assist Ukraine in reclaiming their territories, with increased arms deliveries being crucial, and the counter-offensive will proceed regardless

[@audraklein9765]

Ukraine will not allow Russia to win under any circumstances, they will beat the terrorists to the last man on the battlefield!

[@audraklein9765]

Thanks to your support, Ukraine will win much faster!!!

[@thomasjamison2050]

Really this is serious. Just look at how many hours the Atlantic Wall delayed the invasion forces on Omaha Beach on D=Day.

[@ThembuluwoGandini-zt3mf]

Yey military strategy is not simple when it comes to destroying the enemy lol.

[@davequinn2369]

Tunnels.

[@trevortrevortsr2]

There not antitank ditches they are narrow personal trenches a tracked vehicle can easily roll over and the dragon's teeth are more like cement Toblerone chunks - look at WW2 Dragons' teeth - its defense lines on the cheap

[@Nauda999]

there anti tank ditches are very wide, 5 m wide and at least 2 m deep, you don't want to drive into that full speed, especially at an angle.

[@trevortrevortsr2]

@@Nauda999 Most of the trenches are 1.5 meter wide personnel trenches - they have bridging kit for the few that are wider - their dragons teeth are useless

[@Andygb78]

Don't forget they've also got razor wire, which is formidable.

[@joeswanson5486]

@@trevortrevortsr2there was a video of Ukraine tank rolling into a anti tank ditch. This was also the first sort of anti tank ditch and dragons teeth defense a Ukraine has ran into and it seemed to have worked 🤷‍♂️

[@claudemaggard7162]

They only have to break thru where the russians dont have alot of defenders at

[@michaelh.sanders2388]

Attack en echelon from north to south -break-in and encircle the Russians and pin them against their own defensive works.

[@Felix_SG]

What happens when the Ukrainians reach the Russian border? Just stop and stare?

[@evgeniybastrykov]

in such a key dress of war, we must increase cooperation with Ukraine to defeat the enemy, we have gone through a lot, as many people have suffered because of Russia’s aggression, and now it’s time to put an end to this suffering

[@valeryferry1658]

By increasing military aid, the need for future aid to Ukrainian civilians will decrease

[@audraklein9765]

This war has turned into a protracted one, although it should have been stopped long ago))) We need to increase military aid to Ukraine!!!

[@audraklein9765]

@@valeryferry1658 I think that if they do so, Ukraine could have defeated the damned terrorists a long time ago!

[@peaches8829]

You face them with assault engineers and earth movers, not that hard

[@pjhgerlach]

And first saturate the trenches with cluster ammunition.

[@Aloh-od3ef]

Not that hard 😂😂😂 Have you ever seen earth movers at work. While under fire?? I guess being the prime target on the battlefield. Then just driving up to the obstacle, take 10 minutes to remove enough obstacles…. While being consistently hit! Is not that hard 😂😂😂👍

[@limedickandrew6016]

@@Aloh-od3ef Yeah, these people make it out like Ukrainians can roll up Russian trenches while drinking coffee and sending text message to their girlfriends! It's as easy as that.

[@Ealsante]

@@Aloh-od3ef Lol, ever heard of engineer tanks? Yeah, I thought not.