A Unique Proof Without Induction

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Dr Barker

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@rob876
@rob876 10 ай бұрын
This is somewhat more satisfying than the induction proof.
@nathanisbored
@nathanisbored 10 ай бұрын
i like how some geometry still snuck in there with the multiplication table
@DrBarker
@DrBarker 10 ай бұрын
Yes! While it's technically a purely algebraic proof, that particular step can be seen in quite a nice, geometric way.
@idjles
@idjles 10 ай бұрын
@@DrBarkerI think there is every more geometry here with stacking cubes inside cubes and filling the gaps with squares. A cube has the volume of the next cube down + 3 square faces + 1 unit square. A completely geometric proof without algebra would be possible here.
@comrade_marshal
@comrade_marshal 10 ай бұрын
At one time algebraic questions were geometrically solved before mathematical notations for operators were developed
@Amoeby
@Amoeby 10 ай бұрын
More like matrix than geometry.
@eauna0029
@eauna0029 10 ай бұрын
What a neat proof! Inserting the sum of the first n integers was such an unexpected but great trick over there too; I completely though you'd abuse that "telescopation" in a different way, or you'd exploit reversing the summation order (to go column by column instead of row by row), but this was a very nice one!
@joseivan2337
@joseivan2337 10 ай бұрын
By the Fubini's theorem when both limits in the first final summation are independent the double sum is the product of the simple sums, which gives sum of i from 1 to n, the whole summation squared
@sr6424
@sr6424 10 ай бұрын
Your videos inspire me. I guess my level of maths is a lot lower than your viewers. In the past few months I have started running puzzle evenings in a local bar. A vastly simplified version of this could make it into the next evening! Thanks.
@DrBarker
@DrBarker 10 ай бұрын
This is great to hear! Maybe an example just using a specific value of n could be made to work. Do let me know if it makes it into the next evening!
@TheUglyCuckling
@TheUglyCuckling 10 ай бұрын
Puzzle night at the bar sounds like a blast! I may be a math major but after a few drinks a simplified version is likely right up my alley! 🍺
@sr6424
@sr6424 10 ай бұрын
@@TheUglyCuckling I did the first one a few weeks ago. It’s rally small bar who needed to attract business on Thursday evening’s. A few maths questions and word questions. The people loved it and the next one is selling out fast. An example of a question. An 11 digit number. The first digit is perfect square, the first two digits are a perfect square, the first 6 digits are a perfect square and all 11 digits are a perfect square? No one got it right! And calculators were allowed!
@KSignalEingang
@KSignalEingang 10 ай бұрын
​@@sr6424 16,646,418,441. What do I win?
@elrichardo1337
@elrichardo1337 10 ай бұрын
nice one! I’ve also seen ways to prove this using finite differences
@mauisstepsis5524
@mauisstepsis5524 10 ай бұрын
That serious look at the end makes me giggle.
@cmilkau
@cmilkau 10 ай бұрын
(n + 1)² - (n - 1)² = 4n. Now multiply by n²/4
@vat1n456
@vat1n456 10 ай бұрын
More precisely : when you multiply both side of the equation with n^2/4, you get n^3 = n^2*(n+1)^2/4- (n-1)^2*n^2/4 = (n(n+1)/2)^2)-((n-1)n/2)^2 (you can recognize the sum of terms between 1 and n or n-1) Given an integer k, let's call S(k) = ((k(k+1))/2)^2 To sum up, n^3 = S(n) - S(n-1). We easily see a telescopic sum : n^3 + ... + 2^3 + 1^3 =S(n) - S(n-1) + S(n-1) -... +S(0) =S(n) - S(0) =S(n) =(1+2+...+n)^2
@dalibormaksimovic6399
@dalibormaksimovic6399 10 ай бұрын
There is a proof that goes like this: If a1 < a2 < a3 < ... < an, where ai is the natural number, and (a1 + a2 +...+ an)^2 = a1^3 + ... + an^3, then ai = i.
@anastasissfyrides2919
@anastasissfyrides2919 10 ай бұрын
By using the closed form for Σk arent you silently using induction in the proof?
@cassianocaro4916
@cassianocaro4916 10 ай бұрын
this question apered in a similar way in a braziliam olympiad, all tho the exponents were indetermined, and u had determin them
@jackkalver4644
@jackkalver4644 10 ай бұрын
But can you prove the inner sum without induction?
@merwan.houiralami
@merwan.houiralami 10 ай бұрын
i wanna die after seeing how you do your sum sign 😂😂
@Jono4174
@Jono4174 10 ай бұрын
How about the long second between 2:00 and 2:01 with the failed minus sign?
@bjornfeuerbacher5514
@bjornfeuerbacher5514 10 ай бұрын
A beautiful proof. :)
@georgecswong8
@georgecswong8 10 ай бұрын
My proof is that (1+2+3+4………….+n)=n(n+1)/2 (1+2+…..n)^2=(n(n+1)/2)^2=(n^4+2n^3+n^2)/4 (1+2+3+4…..+n-1)=(n-1)(n+1-1)/2=(n-1)n/2 (1+2+3……..+n-1)^2=(n^4-2n^3+n^2)/4 (Sum of 1 to n)^2-(sum of 1 to n-1)^2=n^3 (Sum of 1 to n-1)^2- (sum of 1 to n-2)^2=(n-1)^3 (Sum of 1 to n)^2=n^3
@zathrasyes1287
@zathrasyes1287 10 ай бұрын
That's a nice one. Thx a lot.
@帝释天-z1w
@帝释天-z1w 10 ай бұрын
不能直接积分吗?
@armanavagyan1876
@armanavagyan1876 10 ай бұрын
Awesome 👍
@MyOneFiftiethOfADollar
@MyOneFiftiethOfADollar 10 ай бұрын
Michael Penn sometimes dons a shirt with this particular integer identity. A suitable definition for a nerd among the nerds. Nice to see non induction way of showing this.
@MichaelRothwell1
@MichaelRothwell1 10 ай бұрын
This is a delightful proof! I think it could be nice to run it backwards. Start with the the (sum of the integers from 1 to n)² and use your diagram to split this into two equal triangular double sums and the sum of the squares of the integers from 1 to n, then convert the double triangular sum to the sum of k³-k² for k from 2 to n, by again running your argument backwards, and we are done. Here are the details. We want to prove that ∑(k=1 to n)k³=[∑(k=1 to n)k]² For this proof we'll manipulate the RHS until it becomes the LHS. [∑(k=1 to n)k]² =[∑(k=1 to n)k][∑(i=1 to n)i] =∑(k=1 to n)∑(i=1 to n)ki =∑(k=1 to n)[∑(1≤i
@MichaelRothwell1
@MichaelRothwell1 10 ай бұрын
P.S. I have edited my comment to include the "reverse" solution in detail.
@johngrint8231
@johngrint8231 10 ай бұрын
Loved it!
@ezvac1421
@ezvac1421 10 ай бұрын
4:00 you say the sum is not defined but it is and is equal to 0
@jursamaj
@jursamaj 10 ай бұрын
You should have timestamped that to 3:45. And no, summing terms for 1 to 0 is not well defined. One could easily argue that it should by the negative of the sum for 0 to 1, just like you flipped integrals that go backwards.
@ezvac1421
@ezvac1421 10 ай бұрын
@@jursamaj its a convention, the sum from 0 to -1 is indeed 0 you can ask anybody
@AutoDisheep
@AutoDisheep 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video
@merwan.houiralami
@merwan.houiralami 10 ай бұрын
beatiful proof
@sebastianmanterfield3132
@sebastianmanterfield3132 10 ай бұрын
at ~ 7:00 you omitted the induction 😿
@vat1n456
@vat1n456 10 ай бұрын
n(n+1)/2 = 1+2+3+...+n 1) It's a simpler induction 2) It can be proven geometrically
@eugeniodiazbarriga8140
@eugeniodiazbarriga8140 10 ай бұрын
Muy bella prueba.
@KSignalEingang
@KSignalEingang 10 ай бұрын
I first stumbled on this equivalence one night while trying to go to sleep... Not only did it cost me that night's rest, I wasted most of the next couple days trying to figure out why it was true. It seems like the sort of thing you should be able to do with basic grade school algebra, but I quickly got frustrated and wound up looking up some proofs online. Most of these - at least, the ones I understood - were of the visual/geometric variety. Which was fine, but a bit unsatisfying... Like they did not so much show the "why" of it as just restate it in building blocks instead of numbers. So, this proof was exactly the sort of thing I was looking for! Tbh I still find the equivalence itself fairly incredible (in several senses of the word), but it's nice seeing it proved with calculations I can actually follow.
@jursamaj
@jursamaj 10 ай бұрын
I'd say visual and geometric proofs show "why" just as much as algebraic ones.
@CutleryChips
@CutleryChips 10 ай бұрын
Answers to Questions that no one asked
@Freefallendless
@Freefallendless 10 ай бұрын
Mad?
@CutleryChips
@CutleryChips 10 ай бұрын
Don’t listen to the person who has the answers, listen to the person who has the questions. - Albert Einstein
@usernameisamyth
@usernameisamyth 10 ай бұрын
good one
@NotBroihon
@NotBroihon 10 ай бұрын
This is such a nice proof but I can't get over how janky you are drawing the sigmas lmao
@samaelantoniogamboaquezada3589
@samaelantoniogamboaquezada3589 10 ай бұрын
¡Qué interesante!
@guessundheit6494
@guessundheit6494 10 ай бұрын
Those upside down sigmas are disturbing. 😁
@JohnBerry-q1h
@JohnBerry-q1h 10 ай бұрын
Imagine a world in which, instead of firing missiles at each other, countries simply sent Olympiad Math Challenges at each other. Or angry Dance Off challenges. Take your pick.
@jursamaj
@jursamaj 10 ай бұрын
Except the loser of the challenge still has missiles…
@mathpath7775
@mathpath7775 10 ай бұрын
Nice
@endersteph
@endersteph 10 ай бұрын
Hi. This is a fantastic video, but I'd just like to point out that the sum from 1 to 0 of anything is absolutely well-defined, and is equal to zero. (It is the sum over all integers i satisfying 1 ≤ i ≤ 0, that is it is the sum over the elements of the empty set (so an empty sum), which is by convention defined as the neutral element for addition, i.e. 0)
@JohnBerry-q1h
@JohnBerry-q1h 10 ай бұрын
John Berry's *perfect cube...* 𝑤³ + 𝑥³ + 𝑦³ = 𝑧³; 3³ + 4³ + 5³ = 6³ 27 + 64 + 125 = 216 216 = 216 ✅ ; SO-... if we set-up the 𝑛=5 case minus the 𝑛=2 case... (1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5)² - (1 + 2)² = 225 - 9 = 216 216 = 216 ✅ ; AND... if we set-up the 𝑛=6 case minus the 𝑛=5 case... (1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6)² - (1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5)² = 441 - 225 = 216 216 = 216 ✅
@dakcom-mk6mp
@dakcom-mk6mp 5 ай бұрын
Nice
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