A very interesting differential equation: derivative at x = inverse at 1/x

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@wohargRadu
@wohargRadu 3 ай бұрын
Yes, this is A particular solution. However the more interesting question is what is THE general solution what we don't know (it might be not equal to this particular solution). For instance we can see that the equation is not defined for x=0. An important question should be asked whether f is a function from C to C or if it can be from R to R (probably not). We can also see that the limit of f' at infinity is f^(-1)(0). One can then discuss what is the behaviour of f depending on the number of solutions of f(x)=0. If there are none, f' would not be defined at infinity. One can also differentiate the equation and get information about the convexity depending on the sign of f''(x) if f(x) is real. Etc.
@GeraldPreston1
@GeraldPreston1 3 ай бұрын
0:11 a very elegant way of putting it
@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
Mathematical bars😂
@ayushrudra8600
@ayushrudra8600 3 ай бұрын
@@maths_505 lol you should make a math rap it would be so funny
@natepolidoro4565
@natepolidoro4565 3 ай бұрын
When writing out beta and doing calculations involving raising it to its own power, I think it is nicer to write beta in exponential/polar form in the base, and rectangular form in the exponent so that some stuff will cancel out and separate nicely.
@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
Oh yeah that would've been cool...I think Euler would write it that way😂
@CM63_France
@CM63_France 3 ай бұрын
Hi, I give you the stupid thought that I probably adopted when young to remember that sin 30° = 1/2 : the number thirty : thirty minutes is .... half an hour. I say "probably", I am not sure, but I guess it's that, as you know, mnemonic processes have these secrets. I love your videos. "ok, cool" : 0:19 , "terribly sorry about that" : 3:30 , 5:10 .
@kingzenoiii
@kingzenoiii 3 ай бұрын
YES MIDDLE EARTH IS BACK
@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
@@kingzenoiii FOR GONDOR!!!!
@kingzenoiii
@kingzenoiii 3 ай бұрын
@@maths_505 lmaoo
@РайанКупер-э4о
@РайанКупер-э4о 3 ай бұрын
Are those all solutions?
@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
The alpha parameter is defined as a complex power function so we have to be careful that this the principle value we're talking about. In that case, indeed these are the only 2 solutions (or maybe just the only ones I've found 😂).
@Jalina69
@Jalina69 3 ай бұрын
Sin(pi/6) =1/2. Also second beta maybe beta = -exp(-ipi/6), but it should be complex conj so i dont understand then
@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
Oh yeah but that only means I'm off by a factor of 1/2😂 and yes the other beta is the conjugate of the first one.
@Jalina69
@Jalina69 3 ай бұрын
@@maths_505 oh no you are right nvmnd
@mattyg2494
@mattyg2494 3 ай бұрын
how do you just assume that the function f(x) = ax^b and that you can just take away the x's and set a^(-1/b) = ab?
@renyin_1
@renyin_1 3 ай бұрын
I had the same confusion, didn't see how ab=a^(-1/b) was obtained
@txikitofandango
@txikitofandango 3 ай бұрын
Holy crap. I did this problem before watching the video and thought, no way, I'm overthinking it. But apparently not!
@qdphi
@qdphi 3 ай бұрын
Hi. Should I spell your name as Kamal, Kemal or Camal?
@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
Kamaal
@redroach401
@redroach401 3 ай бұрын
Next video: solve the basel problem and aprey's constant PLEASE.
@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
Search Basel problem maths 505 and you'll get my video
@redroach401
@redroach401 3 ай бұрын
@@maths_505 I see but do you think you could solve it like a similar way to Apostol's method, ie: using multivariable calculus since that feels more intuitive (I have no idea what residue theorem is). Also, I think then you could expand it to solving the zeta function of 3 and perhaps some complex inputs as well.
@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
Yes it can be generalised to an integral in N space for ζ(N).
@davidrojas5087
@davidrojas5087 3 ай бұрын
Why you supose that y=a x ^b?????
@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
I explained that in the video
@xxxx015
@xxxx015 3 ай бұрын
Dr. Michael penn a similar one before
@RandomBurfness
@RandomBurfness 3 ай бұрын
Didn't Michael Penn make a video on this exact problem? :O
@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
Nah this one's a different case
@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
And even the case he discuss was solved by Dr Peyam 5 years before Penn's video.
@alexandermorozov2248
@alexandermorozov2248 3 ай бұрын
Почему решение ищется сразу в виде степенной функции?
@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
I explained why at the beginning of the solution.
@Jalina69
@Jalina69 3 ай бұрын
Типа производные и интегралы полиномиалов тоже полиномиалы. Я таки думаю есть и другие функции которые подходят.
@alexandermorozov2248
@alexandermorozov2248 3 ай бұрын
​@Jalina69 вот я тоже думаю, что есть и другие функции. Например, можно продифференцировать обе части уравнения, и воспользоваться тем, что производная обратной функции равна обычной производной этой же функции в минус первой степени. Или попробовать взять интеграл от обеих частей уравнения. Или поменять переменную.
@dang-x3n0t1ct
@dang-x3n0t1ct 2 ай бұрын
Michael Penn also did this one I think
@maths_505
@maths_505 2 ай бұрын
@@dang-x3n0t1ct nope
@dang-x3n0t1ct
@dang-x3n0t1ct 2 ай бұрын
@@maths_505 https:/ /kzbin.info/www/bejne/qICbq2OtismolaM it's this one
@dang-x3n0t1ct
@dang-x3n0t1ct 2 ай бұрын
@@maths_505 it's from the "A beautiful differential equation" video
@maths_505
@maths_505 2 ай бұрын
@@dang-x3n0t1ct still nope. I searched the video and the RHS is f(1/x) whereas my solution pertains to f^{-1}(1/x)
@dang-x3n0t1ct
@dang-x3n0t1ct 2 ай бұрын
@@maths_505 i must have gotten confused, apologies
@debblez
@debblez 3 ай бұрын
sure but what if f(1) = 1
@debblez
@debblez 3 ай бұрын
f’(1) = f^-1(1/1) = 1 f’’(1) = 1/f’(f^-1(1/1))*-1/1^2 = -1 dunno the solution but it seems like you get a nicer result
@debblez
@debblez 3 ай бұрын
f'''(1) = 3 f''''(1) = -12 f'''''(1) = 57
@debblez
@debblez 3 ай бұрын
-303, 1761
@lakshay-musicalscientist2144
@lakshay-musicalscientist2144 3 ай бұрын
I think I remember something like this uploaded earlier if im not wrong
@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
Nah that was for just the inverse
@GeraldPreston1
@GeraldPreston1 3 ай бұрын
is it possible to solve these equations from the ground up (without assuming the form of f(x)) by integrating the inverse? i'm sure i've seen some sort of formula for the integral of an inverse function
@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
That would give us the function in terms of an integral which is much less clear of a solution.
@maxvangulik1988
@maxvangulik1988 3 ай бұрын
it's hard to integrate either function at 1/x
@worldnotworld
@worldnotworld 3 ай бұрын
@@maths_505 Might other basic forms be plausible candidates for alternative solutions, for example exponentials of x? Could there be, in principle, classes of solutions that differ in such a profound way? I should just try it, I guess...
@khengari77
@khengari77 3 ай бұрын
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@jakybel884
@jakybel884 3 ай бұрын
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@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
@@jakybel884 Samsung notes
@jakybel884
@jakybel884 3 ай бұрын
@@maths_505 ❤️❤️ thanks
@ericthegreat7805
@ericthegreat7805 3 ай бұрын
Yo dawg I heard you like inverse functions so I chose an inverse function at an inverse argument
@pyrite2060
@pyrite2060 3 ай бұрын
3rd
@natepolidoro4565
@natepolidoro4565 3 ай бұрын
👍
@bikash_Chandra_debnath
@bikash_Chandra_debnath 3 ай бұрын
I was a commerce student, why the heck I'm watching this 😂
@aravindakannank.s.
@aravindakannank.s. 3 ай бұрын
u started this , u can't go back to simple math now , u will feel bored 😂
@mcalkis5771
@mcalkis5771 3 ай бұрын
Now split all that into real and imaginary parts.
@quqgaming
@quqgaming 2 ай бұрын
The least satisfying solution ever
@worldnotworld
@worldnotworld 3 ай бұрын
OK Kool
@maxvangulik1988
@maxvangulik1988 3 ай бұрын
let f(x)=ax^b f'(x)=abx^(b-1) (x/a)^(1/b)=f^-1(x) f^-1(1/x)=(ax)^-(1/b) abx^(b-1)=(ax)^-(1/b) b-1=-1/b b^2-b+1=0 b=(1+-isqrt(3))/2=e^(+-ipi/3) ab=a^-(1/b) b=a^-(1+1/b) b^-(b/(b+1))=a b+1=(3+-isqrt(3))/2 =sqrt(3)e^(+-ipi/6) a=(e^(+-ipi/3))^-(e^(+-ipi/6)/sqrt(3)) a=e^(-+ipi/(3sqrt(3))•e^(+-ipi/6)) a=e^(-+ipi/(3sqrt(3))(cos(pi/6)+-isin(pi/6))) a=e^(pi/(6sqrt(3))-+ipi/6) a=e^(pi/(6sqrt(3)))•(sqrt(3)-+i)/2 f(x)=e^(pi/(6sqrt(3)))•(sqrt(3)-+i)/2•x^((1+-sqrt(3)i)/2) f'(x)=e^(pi/(6sqrt(3)))•(sqrt(3)+-i)/2•x^((-1+-sqrt(3)i)/2) f^-1(1/x)=e^(-pi/(3sqrt(3))+-ipi/6)•x^(-1+-isqrt(3))/2) smth aint right
@venkatamarutiramtarigoppul2078
@venkatamarutiramtarigoppul2078 3 ай бұрын
I am the first view
@littlegeniusomar7890
@littlegeniusomar7890 3 ай бұрын
Im the second comment
@stefanalecu9532
@stefanalecu9532 3 ай бұрын
This is one hell of an ugly result
@aravindakannank.s.
@aravindakannank.s. 3 ай бұрын
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@Tosi31415 3 ай бұрын
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@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
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@aravindakannank.s.
@aravindakannank.s. 3 ай бұрын
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@maths_505
@maths_505 3 ай бұрын
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@aravindakannank.s.
@aravindakannank.s. 3 ай бұрын
@@maths_505 and cycle starts once again 😂
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