A Walk Through a World War 2 Submarine

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Heinz Thiel

Heinz Thiel

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USS Silversides SS236 U.S. Navy Gato Class World War 2 Submarine Walk Through Tour docked in Muskegon, Michigan on 1 June 2018.
Video By Heinz Thiel
World War 2 HRS Press Corps
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@parrisgeorge8620
@parrisgeorge8620 2 жыл бұрын
My son and I spent the night on board this sub for Boy Scouts. The dining area in the video makes it look bigger than what it really is. Although, there is more room on her than the German subs. The engines were made there in that city so they are easily worked on. In fact, once a month the engines are still run. The propellers are off but engines still run as smoothly as ever. It was absolutely an amazing night. The parents all sat in the galley drinking coffee and playing cards while the kids slept. For history buffs it is a great time. From what we were told, the boat could still operate which in itself is crazy. She is a beautiful boat.
@jackrabbitslim2500
@jackrabbitslim2500 2 жыл бұрын
My dad served on submarines when I was a kid. He was stationed at Pearl Harbor and I remember getting to tour the U.S.S Bowfin one time.
@johnburrows1179
@johnburrows1179 2 жыл бұрын
These guys in WW1&2 who were in these submarines had balls of steel. Cramped. Noisy as hell. And one wrong move and you had an unimaginable death. Today’s submarines are like suites at the Hilton hotel compared to these
@Luckiestof13
@Luckiestof13 2 жыл бұрын
Hell, one wrong flush of a toilet could sink you if you didn't take the right steps.
@ELIGG15
@ELIGG15 2 жыл бұрын
@@Luckiestof13 lol true
@parrisgeorge8620
@parrisgeorge8620 2 жыл бұрын
@@Luckiestof13 so true, when they explained what you had to do to flush, it confused the hell out of all of us.
@brianzak
@brianzak 2 жыл бұрын
The engineering for one of these is mindboggling.
@Buzz65
@Buzz65 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, especially when you consider the era. Amazing.
@2CODO1963
@2CODO1963 2 жыл бұрын
@@Buzz65 and all done with slide rules and note pads.
@aplexas4206
@aplexas4206 2 жыл бұрын
I do piping for cruiser ships , like the lowest decks and darkest places , and I always think to my self "how the fuck this gonna work" when i see all the pipes , cabels , engines ...
@jotunblod
@jotunblod 2 жыл бұрын
@@Buzz65 Society has gotten dumber and will continue to decline.
@fredmiller6482
@fredmiller6482 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. No CAD, no calculators, no 3D modeling. Just a bunch of smart guys with pencil and paper, a good knowledge of math and physics, common sense and the ability to communicate.
@MrGruffteddybear
@MrGruffteddybear 3 жыл бұрын
I was in the Navy on an aircraft carrier and I thought it was cramped. Wow, no way I could have been a submariner in WW2. Deep respect to all the brave souls who fought on those subs.
@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13
@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that people were smaller and shorter back then.
@fresatx
@fresatx 3 жыл бұрын
You miss the circle jerks in the berthing area!!
@fresatx
@fresatx 2 жыл бұрын
@Maggot Oh you heard about her about too huh? Yup "The Harbor Queen" was a beast in her prime.
@JoeGallo43
@JoeGallo43 2 жыл бұрын
I was surface fleet as well. CVN-72 the Lincoln.
@JoeGallo43
@JoeGallo43 2 жыл бұрын
@@fresatx wanna hot rack after chow shipmate? Meet me in the forward galley we can share midrats together.
@thorfinthorfin3010
@thorfinthorfin3010 2 жыл бұрын
As an old Army Grunt I will tell you no way in Hades I would ever get into a submarine, even in peace time. These Sailors have my total respect. Your a special breed.
@athanakop7775
@athanakop7775 2 жыл бұрын
*you're
@davidberry3153
@davidberry3153 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a tour guide for Silversides. I love this boat and am proud to talk about her and the men who went to war in her. She is a very special piece of history. One that you can touch and feel.
@hkguitar1984
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
Truly amazing what our Soldiers endure, in the past and present. Much Respect.
@robheskin
@robheskin 2 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome!! How did it get to Michigan? I’m assuming there’s a river but still :)
@loreng7433
@loreng7433 2 жыл бұрын
I stayed overnight on this boat as a kid while in the Boy Scouts. 10 years later I was on an Active Submarine in the Navy. Thank you for the incredible childhood memory recall lol
@bf7504
@bf7504 2 жыл бұрын
I cant imagine 72 enlisted men, those engines and all the other smells and sounds on a full Pacific deployment
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think all engines would be running all the time so there might have been some where that was quiet but yeah probably smelled like grease, diesel and body odor, there was a quote by a German who served on a U-boat and said all the uboats had a “distinct smell of sweat and sh!t”
@johneratcliff
@johneratcliff 2 жыл бұрын
Just like your bedroom!
@zellyu8559
@zellyu8559 2 жыл бұрын
72?! But it looks so small! Wow
@bozomori2287
@bozomori2287 2 жыл бұрын
The crew: 🤢🤮😭😭🤢🤢😭🤮🤢🤮🤮😭😭😭😭😭🤢😭🤢😭😭😭🤢🤢🤢😭🤢😭🤢😭🤢😭🤢😭🤢😭🤢😭🤢😭😭😭🤢🤢🤮😭😭🤮😭😭😭🤢🤢🤮🤮😭😭🤢🤮😭😭😭😭😭😭🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢😭
@igamehard8860
@igamehard8860 2 жыл бұрын
@@johneratcliff tell your mom to take a bath
@johnhutnick1232
@johnhutnick1232 3 жыл бұрын
Our Father served of this boat. Thanks for the great video.
@NineInchNailer
@NineInchNailer 2 жыл бұрын
Me: "Grandpa, what did you do during the WW2?" Grandpa: „I slept next to a frickin’ Torpedo!”
@petresko1041
@petresko1041 2 жыл бұрын
Much more preferable than as far away from them. If they blow up inside the sub, you're dead before you can register pain.
@deanwoolston4794
@deanwoolston4794 3 жыл бұрын
This boat is in awesome shape. I walked through a WWII submarine in Baltimore Harbor, and it was in no where near, as good of shape, as this submarine is. God bless the men that have sailed in these cramped,miserable and dangerous weapon of war.
@RandomDudeOne
@RandomDudeOne 2 жыл бұрын
Compared to a U Boat this was pleasant.
@garymahony2844
@garymahony2844 2 жыл бұрын
That is absolutely immaculate.....a lot of pride and respect shown in that Submarine 👏👏👏👍
@dzinn901
@dzinn901 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is the boat I went aboard at the Navy Pier in Chicago in late '79 early '80. It was all torn apart inside and they were just starting to restore it. I was attending the Navy's Electronic "A" school in Great Lakes at the time and a classmate and I were allowed to come aboard and take a look around. I was a submarine volunteer and eventually served on a Sturgeon class boat out of Pearl. The USS Silversides is the first submarine I set foot on. It helped me to appreciate what those sailors went through and how far technology has come for those of us that have followed in their steps.
@MinneapolisDavid
@MinneapolisDavid 2 жыл бұрын
The sacrifices made - just being “trapped” for weeks in this tube - not to mention the fear of being hunted -or imploding. God bless our submariners
@retirednavy8720
@retirednavy8720 2 жыл бұрын
I spent a little over 25 years in the USN and you could not get me on a sub at gunpoint. I have utmost respect for the men that can and do serve on them.
@7Elisk
@7Elisk Жыл бұрын
I also visited the USS Silversides with my boy scout troop in the 90's and got to sleep overnight when I was a kid. It was a really cool I got to sleep in the officers quarters and my dad got me a bosun's whistle at the giftshop in the museum. I was fascinated by all the meters, knobs and switches and how anyone could know how to operate it all. I also imagined being the seaman who had to sleep under the torpedo.
@higherfordkid1625
@higherfordkid1625 Жыл бұрын
What is most amazing here is the actual construction methods of such a compact and complex engineering masterpiece so that everything had a purpose and worked without fault.
@ericdee6802
@ericdee6802 2 жыл бұрын
My Father was a CPO first class radio/radar operator on the U.S.S. Redfin (Gato Class) sub in the South Pacific 1942. Those guys had a death wish!
@kingpapaplays6933
@kingpapaplays6933 2 жыл бұрын
@@erichmutchler3262 lucky your uncle wasn’t on the sub when it left port
@pwilki8631
@pwilki8631 2 жыл бұрын
CPO 1st class is a royal Canadian navy rank.
@Cybersawz
@Cybersawz 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the USS Silversides in my hometown of Muskegon, Mi. She is officially credited with sinking 23 ships, the third-most of any allied World War II submarine. Much respect for the sailors who had to live in such cramped quarters during so dangerous a time.
@ThreeEyeGypsy30
@ThreeEyeGypsy30 2 жыл бұрын
I take my hat off to a WWII submarine cook. Imagine having to cook three meals a day on board an active submarine on duty off the coast of Japan.
@firemedic5100
@firemedic5100 3 жыл бұрын
I've taken my children through the USS Cavalla in Galveston, TX, and it was all I could do to get through it. I knew it was sitting on dry land, but was looking on where to make door to get out if it were to go under water. Those that served on these, had much bigger balls than I would ever have. Much respect to the people that served on these. Nope, I wouldn't be able to it.
@thomashoward9806
@thomashoward9806 2 жыл бұрын
I went to sea on the Cavalla for 8 hrs. in 1963. That's 16 dives. I don't know if it had a full crew as it was a school boat at New London. I enjoyed it immensely. The captain gave me carte blanche of the whole boat. Ask any questions. I got to look thru the periscope as we dove, listened to the torpedo chaser boats on sonar. They fired 3 waterslugs and 2 torpedoes. It is a snorkal boat for recharging batterys at periscope depth. I was in the engine room when they did the snorkal thing in 12' sea swells. My ears just about collapsed. I'd do it again in a New York minute.
@amdg2023
@amdg2023 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, no ignorant music and the sound of the ocean adds great reverence for those who served her, well done.
@jimsteele9975
@jimsteele9975 2 жыл бұрын
My qual boat was USS Sennet (SS408) a Balao Class commissioned 1943......very similar. Surprising how much I still can recall about it......my eyes immediately went to 'my' rack and the location (in the passageway of the galley) of the hatch to the sonar room where I spent most of my time......
@Yowzoe
@Yowzoe 2 жыл бұрын
What years or year were you on that boat? Is it in your dreams often?
@stevenhassell4258
@stevenhassell4258 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I wish they would allow this to be shown in schools. Remembering the men who gave us our freedoms. I'm a Vietnam veteran. But to do this job was a special breed of men. Thank you again.
@Thadude701
@Thadude701 2 жыл бұрын
When I was in sub school Groton Connecticut I toured an old diesel boat and almost withdrew my volunteer status for submarine service,life on a boomer in the mid 80s was pretty nice to be honest .
@erikrhafer6644
@erikrhafer6644 2 жыл бұрын
Great food I understand ?
@Thadude701
@Thadude701 2 жыл бұрын
@@erikrhafer6644 we had fruits and vegetables packed in nitrogen to last longer ,I heard a price of 180 per meal ( idk if that's true or not) all I can say is the food was pretty good and I am a picky eater.when in port the base chow hall served good food also .
@erikrhafer6644
@erikrhafer6644 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thadude701 my cousin was on a boomer in the 80's, he came home chubby said it was the food on board that did it...
@NordicDan
@NordicDan Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine is a retired Chief and served as Chief of the Boat on the John C Calhoun before it was decommissioned in 1994. His father (I forget what his rating was) was on the crew of the Silversides during its final three patrols of WWII, including when it got the last US submarine kill of the war. Very cool to see the Silversides in this video.
@LittlealxYT
@LittlealxYT Жыл бұрын
Amazing quality, quiet and respectful walkthrough, so we can focus on the fascinating machine instead of personalities. thank you Heinz
@scuderio762
@scuderio762 2 жыл бұрын
This is luxurious when you compare it to the German Type VII submarines
@chicorodriguez5196
@chicorodriguez5196 Жыл бұрын
I slept overnight on the silversides, sometime in the mid 90’s. My Cub Scout group took a trip to the sub, and they allowed us to camp out there overnight. Very neat experience
@hastequick1618
@hastequick1618 3 жыл бұрын
In September 1994 I visited USS Growler in New York. Although a man born and raised in a sea place, it was my first time inside a submarine. This video reminded me about the experience very much.
@edwardschmitt5710
@edwardschmitt5710 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job, held the camera well and moved at a good slow speed. Felt like I was there walking through it.
@SaltiDawg2008
@SaltiDawg2008 3 жыл бұрын
I served in five Boats - two Diesel Boats, the Quillback and the T-1. Also, three SSN's - Pargo, Trepang, and Bergall.
@yanni2112
@yanni2112 3 жыл бұрын
I was on a Sub Tender!
@Abensberg
@Abensberg 2 жыл бұрын
i served on a type VII, type IX and type XXI in silent hunter 3.
@davidkeeton6716
@davidkeeton6716 2 жыл бұрын
@@Abensberg Alright, knock it off!
@daveanderson3805
@daveanderson3805 2 жыл бұрын
It's simply incredible I can't imagine going to war on one of those steel coffins I have a lot of respect for the guys who served on submarines I understand that they were all volunteers
@b3j8
@b3j8 2 жыл бұрын
The Gerrman subs were the real definition of coffins as the vast majority were sunk taking their brave crews to their deaths.
@arwood111
@arwood111 3 жыл бұрын
We go to military museums on nearly every vacation... this boat is absolutely the best example of a working boat I have every seen!! Kudos to the people who take the time to keep this wonder alive!! Thank you!! I will make the trip to see this one is person too!
@misterjag
@misterjag 2 жыл бұрын
Silversides was one of the most successful submarines in the Pacific Theater of World War II, with 23 confirmed sinkings, totaling more than 90,000 long tons (91,444 t) of shipping.
@jeffjansen582
@jeffjansen582 Жыл бұрын
Japs were lucky not to see U boats, they sank millions of tons.
@danielwaters6131
@danielwaters6131 3 жыл бұрын
I went on board the USS Drum at the Battleship Alabama memorial park in Mobile, Alabama in my mid twenties. I was in great shape in 1976; but being 6'4" and weighing 215 lbs I was too tall, and had a hell of a time going from compartment to compartment. They called the bulkhead hatches "Knee Knockers" for good reason, I took the skin of of my shins on three or four of them. Tried to go up on the bridge, but couldn't get my shoulders through the hatch. These boats convinced me that I didn't want to be in a submarine, even the modern ones. These boats were crewed by special men who stepped up and answered their nations call when they were needed. Thanks to them, one and all for ensuring democracy prevailed over Nazism, Fascism and Imperialism.
@UltraMagaFan
@UltraMagaFan 3 жыл бұрын
I went on the USS Clamagore before it closed and I had the same exact problem accept I didn't scrape the skin off of my chins. I'm 6'5" I couldn't imagine working on one of these tiny things especially for weeks on end. Props to the men that had to endure that crap they really are special id probably go insane.
@ron5935
@ron5935 2 жыл бұрын
I did a tour when 236 was docked at Navy Pier in Chicago in 1950/60. Very unsure of date. Clastafobia ( can't remember dates or spell) came upon me within 2 minutes. Any person who served deserves the greatest respect. My first dept head at General Motors was a sub commander in WW2 stationed in Australia, J L Martin. Annapolis 1936. If you Google U.S. Subs inWW2 you will find a complete record of every tour of duty every sub made and who was commander. They were all Naval Academy grads starting 193x and each got his ticket for combat so he could be promoted. How many ships each sunk and tonnage. Also did a tour of a B17. That is like hiding in a beer can while people are shooting at you. This would be a scary as a sub, but you got a break after every mission.
@harveyhams1572
@harveyhams1572 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Muskegon. We also have LST-393. The volunteers that work Silversides and 393 are doing remarkable work. Also occasionally they will start one of the engines.
@jipjob1
@jipjob1 2 жыл бұрын
Most interesting! When I was a young apprentice Marine Machinest I had the opportunity to work on the last of the diesel boats. One thing I remember quit well was removing the Diesel engines. But the manifolds were on the outside of the engines and a tight positions to work on. They literally Cut parts of those exhaust manifolds to get them out! But the main thing after they were removed I got to bilge dive on the outside of these engines and get free tools that had been dropped over many years buy sailors. I can remember retrieving oil soaked tools from the obis and cleaning them up and using them once again.
@boataxe4605
@boataxe4605 Жыл бұрын
We used to have this wonderful piece of history at Navy Pier in Chicago,but the city’s politicians wanted an extraordinary amount for docking fees,so across the lake she went.
@macwyll
@macwyll Жыл бұрын
Yep! That's Chicago alright. It went the way of Meigs Field and the Michael Reese Hospital complex. Money and politics. I know this because I lived there for 55 years.
@attilathehung3875
@attilathehung3875 2 жыл бұрын
A long while ago in the cub scouts we spent the night in this sub. Surprisingly cozy.
@gc1172
@gc1172 2 жыл бұрын
While my father served in the Army from Africa up through Italy to Rome I lost an uncle in the Pacific off Japan on a submarine. Then in high school got to hear the real stories of these boats as my math teacher was submariner in the Pacific.
@collinmonette9795
@collinmonette9795 2 жыл бұрын
Sheer terror the stories inside these things.
@donaldmccall9231
@donaldmccall9231 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the fascinating video! I've been spending a lot of time playing my favorite old DOS simulator game Silent Service II, using a GATO class submarine. I had no idea what they were like in real life, this made my day!
@MyJustOpinion
@MyJustOpinion 3 жыл бұрын
Even though it is a 1940s technology it is still a mind boggling complicated machine with thousands of parts that needs to work together in harmony. It supports life of 100 people under the ocean at the same with multiple weapons.
@psarnack
@psarnack 3 жыл бұрын
yeah .. and if you look at 2:35 .. top-right , they had flat screens already ;)
@jont2576
@jont2576 3 жыл бұрын
100 people??lol what?this is a wwii submarine not the goddam titanic.
@Drimirin
@Drimirin 2 жыл бұрын
@@jont2576 Listed stats are 8 crew members and 72 enlisted men so maybe pay attention before getting all holier than thou and making a fool of yourself.
@jont2576
@jont2576 2 жыл бұрын
@@Drimirin look IV seen the movie das boot years ago alright.....no way that claptrap is going to hold 100 people......100 tourists maybe for 30 mins max. Wtf u think this is a bus? If such an internet comment like this got ur ego all hurt and riled up maybe ur the one whose holier than thou.
@Drimirin
@Drimirin 2 жыл бұрын
@@jont2576 Lmao, okay Mr movie expert.
@nja3224
@nja3224 3 жыл бұрын
You didn’t post this for me, but thank you, I’m glad you did. It was a great look into a real WWII sub.
@firebrand07
@firebrand07 3 жыл бұрын
I saw this beautiful warrior boat a few years back and some day will take the tour next time I am down there. Thank you, Heinz!
@AmericaVoice
@AmericaVoice 2 жыл бұрын
OMG, those first 3 horn noises gave me the chills! I heard those same sounds when our base was under attack with incoming rockets, motars and/or drones while I was deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq! My nerves are going nuts right now! For those that was deployed in those countries for a while know exactly what I am saying!! IDF (indirect Fire) is much more terrifying than being shot at because you most of the time can't see what is coming in around you, whereas with being shot at you can usually tell where it's coming from, although it's terrifying as well but at a much lesser degree in my experience!
@thatdudewithicecream
@thatdudewithicecream 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're back! Quick question if you may. I've always wondered is it possible to see incoming/outgoing mortar and artillery fire or is that just for effects in games?
@TheRedRaven_
@TheRedRaven_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatdudewithicecream Not mortars but artillery can be fitted with tracers. I served overseas, we had a dud shell still logged in the ceiling of our chow hall the last time I deployed. Only thing you hear is the sirens followed by the blast or vise versa. Insurgents usually froze the mortars in the top of the tube, when it melts they fall and trigger which most of the time give them time to escape before we launch recon through air support.
@kentwilliams4152
@kentwilliams4152 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks much for the tour. I served on the USS Redfish SS-395. Appears to be identical to the Redfish. Not shown was the con. as we called it, but better known as the conning tower. The only other compartments not shown were the forward battery (ward room, officers state room, the CO’s state room and the Chief Petty Officers state room) and the pump room. Also , there was a stainless steel divider between the center bunks in the after battery.
@yeahno6100
@yeahno6100 2 жыл бұрын
Goddamn that's cool, what an awesome job. Can I ask what position you were in? and when did you serve on her? WW2 or post war? Either way, much respect to you Mr Williams.
@kentwilliams4152
@kentwilliams4152 2 жыл бұрын
@@yeahno6100 : Hello - I served on the redfish in 1961 & 1962. Thanks…
@bluehornet6752
@bluehornet6752 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice. We have the USS Cobia here in Wisconsin, one of the Silversides sister ships. Remarkable boats, and it was VERY surreal to walk through it in person, and imagine that men stood in those compartments in a time of war some 80-odd years ago.
@kcspeed9980
@kcspeed9980 Жыл бұрын
I’ve spoken with friends who were in the navy and the coast guard. The most important piece of equipment on any sea going military vessel is the coffee maker.
@99somerville
@99somerville 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tour. Some of the areas look familiar as I’ve seen them in every WW2 submarine movie. Some areas are never shown in the movies though, thanks for showing them to us.
@jcvikingable
@jcvikingable 3 жыл бұрын
Had the opportunity to stay the night on the USS Silversides with the boy scouts. Fun memories playing risk in the mess room.
@brendanschochet1784
@brendanschochet1784 2 жыл бұрын
Me to and my dad did not have a bed so he slep in the chained torpedo area
@richardmuntz3496
@richardmuntz3496 2 жыл бұрын
I did too in the 1980's. Those bunks are not suitable for those over six feet tall. Good memories. I slept in the triple high section.
@jeffyoung60
@jeffyoung60 2 жыл бұрын
When you compare crew accommodations between a WW2 German VII submarine, the most common, versus a US WW2 Gato Class submarine, the stark difference makes you think it is almost criminal the way the Kriegsmarine subjected its submariners. The US sub design dedicated extra room to hold a crew's mess of four tables. The German VII sub had none. The German submariners ate in their cramped crew compartment, sitting on their bunks or on the floor. The galley was much larger than the German sub and could store more food and cook more varieties of food in larger quantities. The US sub held two showers while the German sub had none. Sure, two showers for 72 enlisted men and 16 officers is pretty tight, meaning a crewman perhaps got a shower once a week, but it was better than no shower on a two-month patrol. The Kriegsmarine doctrine was that a submarine was strictly a deadly, lethal underwater weapon system for launching torpedoes fore and aft, plus a 75mm deck cannon for surface attack. The crewman were simply aboard to man and operate the submersible weapon system and deck cannon. Accommodations were strictly minimal, to sustain life, that's all. The U.S. submarine force doctrine reflected its long naval maritime history which acknowledged accountability to the American People and constitutional civilian leadership. The American People expected their citizen military servicemen (and later servicewomen) to be treated with a modicum of respect, dignity, and attention to their basic needs and requirements. The U.S. Navy intended mess dining feeding to have at least an acceptable level of comfort, ease, and dignity, hence the dining mess area where submariners could eat in some comfort. The German submariners didn't complain because they didn't know anything better than their Type VII submarines. Though the German submariners were the deadly enemy and they all needed to be destroyed so that final victory over evil could be achieved, there is no denying their courage, élan, esprit de corps, dedication, and ultimately, sacrifice, as the odds turned heavily against them after 1942 and survival became scant chance. Service in a Type VII in 1945 became almost suicidal because few VIIs returned from patrols if ever and there were fewer and fewer subs left to carry out patrols. The VII was clearly obsolescent in 1943. The advanced Type XX1, which could have turned the Battle of the Atlantic back in Germany's favor, did not reach operational deployment until 2 to 3 months before the end of WW2, and then only in a few subs. Ironically, the German Type XX1 matched and even outdid the U.S. Gato submarines in crew comfort and accommodations: finally a crew mess area, improved air conditioning, two showers, a larger galley, two large freezers to store far more perishable food, a true cabin for the captain rather than a large closet space on a VII, and even a separate cabin to accommodate the next two, highest ranking commissioned officers on the XX1.
@matteo4096
@matteo4096 2 жыл бұрын
The German never complaint because knew that the Italians were in a far worst condition then them
@tamasmihaly7572
@tamasmihaly7572 2 жыл бұрын
@@matteo4096 Russians had even worse conditions in the Cold War! Many years ago I could see in Helsinki a Russian Juliet class sub and a Type II like Finnish sub (actually equal to a German Type II sub). The Finnish sub seemed to be much more luxurious than the Russian! It was shocking for me!
@AvantiMoltoVeloce
@AvantiMoltoVeloce 2 жыл бұрын
You're spot on, this is what I wanted to make people notice: I also remember of seeing a video of a German sub, in comparison to this one in the video it looked like a Fiat Panda would look like compared to a BMW
@mvd4436
@mvd4436 2 жыл бұрын
@@tamasmihaly7572 Not true. Russia built some big ones even in ww2 that looked more Gato than a U boat. Even now, Russian subs have escape capsules , suana's and auto loaders. US ones dont
@Rammstein0963.
@Rammstein0963. 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention anything about the Type IX, which was basically an expanded VII (internally) it was still not AS good, but was not AS bad either.
@railfan439
@railfan439 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tour. Jon, Torsk Bandit, Cavalla Bilge Rat, Cod paint chipper and Skimmer- Minesweeps.
@davidhough7070
@davidhough7070 2 жыл бұрын
In case you were wondering, that background noise is from Lake Michigan...some times of the year the water is pretty choppy.
@michaellong6605
@michaellong6605 2 жыл бұрын
I spent a full year on SS409 Piper on TAD in the 60s. Came on board as an E 5 Polaris tech off a boomer. Fully qualified and thought I was hot shit. Found out I wasn’t so hot and had the most fun ever!, in my life. Met wonderful people
@jonathongrove9286
@jonathongrove9286 2 жыл бұрын
Back in 74 I was assigned to the USS Francis Scott Key. Ssbn 657. Spent Xmas and New Year's under the water. My boat was clearly alot nicer than one of those. Those old subs were amazing for their day tho
@bigg2441
@bigg2441 3 жыл бұрын
It blows my mind thinking of the complexity of these things and the engineering hours that would have gone into to them. The drawing work must have been tedious.
@mikeg2491
@mikeg2491 3 жыл бұрын
Even more fascinating that it was built only 70 years after the end of the civil war, it’s amazing how fast technology progresses
@bigg2441
@bigg2441 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeg2491 Yes, quite a step forward from the Hunley!
@msain427
@msain427 2 жыл бұрын
Have you looked into the World War 1 submarines I've always studied War and was fascinated by the Second World War I just for some reason never knew about World War submarines and they are scary it took a whole new breed the amount of fumes these guys would Breathe is insane sleeping under Torpedoes it's just crazy
@markr8755
@markr8755 2 жыл бұрын
Saw the link, wondered what sub they going on... USS Silversides! Hell yeah, been on this sub just about every time I am in Muskegon. Well worth the time and money to go through the museum and the submarine.
@kenk7451
@kenk7451 2 жыл бұрын
I visited the USS Ling, a museum now in Hackensack NJ. She was a WW2 sub, never saw combat but used for training. I couldn't believe how cramped everything was. God Bless me men who served!
@henktulp4400
@henktulp4400 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid!!.....a submarine seems like a factory squeezed into the smallest tube possible....my admiration to those who managed to be useful in this space/those conditions!!
@wst8340
@wst8340 2 жыл бұрын
Immaculately preserved.
@AdamSteidl
@AdamSteidl 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks for sharing. Reminds me of USS Cobia, another Gato class, over in Manitowoc, WI.
@mikeburke8656
@mikeburke8656 2 жыл бұрын
My great uncle Warren Ganzer, Gunners Mate 2, was a submariner during WWII and served about the USS Silversides. Made war patrols (9th) from 15 Feb - 8 Apr 1944 to final war patrol (14) 30 Jul to 10 Aug 1945.
@stevejohnson5659
@stevejohnson5659 2 жыл бұрын
I spent 22 years in the Navy...only went to sea on a carrier...and I thought I had it tough! BZ to the sailors on this boat!
@TheEmmetdocbrown
@TheEmmetdocbrown 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Never thought that the Gato class is so big. There is so much space in it. 3 Toilets? Pure Luxury.
@conradnickthomas435
@conradnickthomas435 2 жыл бұрын
USS Silversides was quite a playground for me at Monroe Street harbor, Chicago during my 7th and 8th grade years ('59-'60). Years earlier my friend's father had served with the Coast Guard chief that now had duty staying aboard watching over the ship at Monroe Street harbor. We had the run of the ship, even cooked and ate on board; bunked overnight more than once - but the best was using the periscope to sweep over Grant Park and Chicago's skyline - the Prudential building was soo tall!!!
@thomask4836
@thomask4836 3 жыл бұрын
Heinz, Thank You So Much!
@tonyInPA
@tonyInPA 3 жыл бұрын
When I saw the condition of the brass in the forward torpedo rooms, it really jumped out at me. Kudos to the brass crew and to all…even looking at areas like the crew mess all the details are just right and probably look better than when she first entered the fleet!
@alphamale1717
@alphamale1717 3 жыл бұрын
All the "Brightwork" had to be polished like that.
@azspotfree
@azspotfree 2 жыл бұрын
Those crews had more guts than a slaughterhouse. Nearly 1 in 4 of them died during combat operations. It took a special breed to crew those things in WW2.
@fanatic26
@fanatic26 2 жыл бұрын
Just reading the cliff notes of this submarines rich service history on wikipedia makes me want to go visit this living museum. I am so glad it was saved and restored as it is a massive piece of history for the USA. Without these machines and the heros that crewed them who knows what the world would look like today.
@pcojedi
@pcojedi 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for the walk through. Reminds me of the USS Cavalla SS244 in Galveston TX, it is a Gato Class also
@MrFiendyBob
@MrFiendyBob 2 жыл бұрын
Dying in one of these is probably one of the scariest ways to go in world war 2
@davidwillis8623
@davidwillis8623 2 жыл бұрын
They say it’s pretty instant because the outer shell basically implodes from all directions, crushed in a blink of an eye
@MrFiendyBob
@MrFiendyBob 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidwillis8623 oh wow, but still being in a tin can listening to a bomber flying right above you especially the German planes the whining sound of the engines would drive u insane and then on top of that the lights go out so it’s pitch black except for your torch and u just accept ur not getting out of this :/
@coptertim
@coptertim 3 жыл бұрын
To most young people, WW-II is little more than old black and white movies and the atomic bomb. When you see the Silversides you step back in time and imagine what her young crews went through. The few left with us today must wonder what went wrong that their grandchildren riot in the streets demanding the very things they fought so hard to defeat.
@romanhorak5503
@romanhorak5503 3 жыл бұрын
Like what?
@RedPillRachel
@RedPillRachel 3 жыл бұрын
Like communism, and subjugation to blasphemy laws of one sort or another.
@coptertim
@coptertim 3 жыл бұрын
@@romanhorak5503 The crew of Silversides and many thousands of Soldiers, Sailors Marines and Airman fought against socialism under Hitler, Fascism under Italy's Mussolini and Imperialist Japan. Now, because of a lack of education and the distortion of history, many young Americans and Europeans believe these systems of government are the way of the future. The reality is, there is not one example of a successful socialist, fascist or communist country in history. Not Germany, Italy, Russia, North Korea or Venezuela. It only leads to misery, starvation and death.
@DanTarrant1
@DanTarrant1 3 жыл бұрын
@@coptertim It's a bit more complicated than that, almost all of the world's top economies are a hybrid of capitalist and socialist policies. And Nazi Germany wasn't really "socialist" just because they referred to their ideology as "National Socialism".
@jsmith1649
@jsmith1649 3 жыл бұрын
@@DanTarrant1 WTF. Why is it that in the comments of every video about military history or technology, the discussion always devolves people espousing their (often ill-informed) political views? Wouldn’t it be great if everyone just stuck to the topic?
@eddy2561
@eddy2561 Жыл бұрын
Great video!! We took our Cub Scout troop (mid 1990's) for a night's stay on the USS Pampanito SS-38 in San Francisco....I was amazed what how sailors lived on these floating diesel powered machines!! The boat still had fresh fuel onboard so the sub smelled like diesel....I realized I would never have been a bubble head.
@Georgejoseph74
@Georgejoseph74 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a quick very informative tour..great job
@Cheka__
@Cheka__ 3 жыл бұрын
Coolest video I've seen on KZbin in a very long time
@robertdean1929
@robertdean1929 2 жыл бұрын
I did a road trip to there. Awesome place to visit. Museum next to the sub was awesome too.
@puppycreek01
@puppycreek01 3 жыл бұрын
Just read "The War Below" and the USS Silversides and a few other subs were the focus along with their various Captains. Good book.
@johnchan6191
@johnchan6191 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that tour is awesome. Like that'll b the closest thing of being there w/o being actually there. Thx 4 sharing on Utube.
@xfirehurican
@xfirehurican 2 жыл бұрын
In 197X, did a patrol out of Pearl Harbor to the Sea of Japan (DPRK) aboard the USS Tang. My rack was the port side top one in the forward torpedo room. Passageways were stacked two deep with cases and crates of various food types when we shoved off. Met up with a Royal Navy sub somewhere in the mid-Pacific. Hint: I was a CommO in the Marine Corps. Semper Fi!
@rogerharris3917
@rogerharris3917 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically I just read my old book “Silversides” by Robert Trumbull. How fascinating to see the real thing. Took me back to when I was a kid never thought the damn thing still still existed much less in such condition.
@orig6redwings124
@orig6redwings124 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! I've passed by this submarine numerous times while boating and always wondered what it was like inside!! Thank you for the videos!
@Ghostrider-lm9en
@Ghostrider-lm9en 3 жыл бұрын
A while back I was in Scouts Canada. One year we drove to Michigan for the weekend and slept on the Silversides and the coast guard boat. Such a fun trip.
@slobnoxious
@slobnoxious 3 жыл бұрын
Did the same when it was at Navy Pier in Chicago.
@neues3691
@neues3691 3 жыл бұрын
Compared to a Typ VII German submarine this is really spacious.
@ExUSSailor
@ExUSSailor Жыл бұрын
Speaking as a former sailor, that coffee pot is the single most important piece of equipment on the ship!
@frizzlefry5904
@frizzlefry5904 6 ай бұрын
From the Draftsman's pencil to production an astonishing work of art !
@timisfree1768
@timisfree1768 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video tour!
@fu4616
@fu4616 3 жыл бұрын
Used to live on a Trident SSBN. 5-star hotel compared to those accommodations. Brings back memories. :)
@giostisskylas
@giostisskylas 3 жыл бұрын
In relation to a German Type VII submarine, it is a real luxury hotel. The submarines of type IX, which had a similar operational profile as the boats of the Gato class, were less comfortable. The Gato class is a successful design with a lot of consideration for the crew.
@99somerville
@99somerville 3 жыл бұрын
The big advantage of USN subs was the air conditioning which kept the boat somewhat comfortable. Not sure the Germans had that.
@hphp31416
@hphp31416 3 жыл бұрын
@@99somerville Germans didn't even have refrigerator
@commandingjudgedredd1841
@commandingjudgedredd1841 3 жыл бұрын
@@99somerville I heard that the German subs operating from Singapore were uncomfortable to be in, due to the hot climate.
@lm-usmc
@lm-usmc 2 жыл бұрын
A beautiful preservation of this piece of history. I've toured another WW2 sub before, and love the smells you get from these boats. I spent 8 months on a US Navy LSD ship. I actually enjoyed it. Not sure about spending any time on a sub though.
@brodriguez7934
@brodriguez7934 Жыл бұрын
This is Muskegon Michigan and you can still come tour it! There are a few events a year where you can sleep on it over night and day where they will fire up the diesels. Beuatiful SUB
@kauphaart0
@kauphaart0 2 жыл бұрын
The racks in the torpedo room are much more spacious than they were on the last diesel-electric boats the US Navy had, like the USS Bonefish, for example....
@JohnSmith-hp9ds
@JohnSmith-hp9ds 3 жыл бұрын
I spent a night in this sub, wonderful experience and people. The Museum is great too, I would highly recommend it as a day trip to anyone visiting the west side of the state.
@isaacmartinez442
@isaacmartinez442 3 жыл бұрын
Did you sleep in those green cots?
@isaacmartinez442
@isaacmartinez442 3 жыл бұрын
Did you shower in there and use the restroom and all?!
@JohnSmith-hp9ds
@JohnSmith-hp9ds 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaacmartinez442 Yeah I slept in the cots, I was in the Forward torpedo room on the starboard side. I wasn't allowed to use the facilities inside of the sub, which makes sense, no reason to have to clean a toilet or the associated plumbing if you don't have to. We were able to bring a radio and broadcast from the Silversides though, that was cool.
@isaacmartinez442
@isaacmartinez442 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-hp9ds that sounds like a blast! Would like stay there a night!
@brendanschochet1784
@brendanschochet1784 2 жыл бұрын
I was in the front torpedo bay to my dad did not have a bed so he got a Matt and slept in the chained off torpedo area
@jeffmaggard3694
@jeffmaggard3694 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve visited this sub, I was impressed at the condition it’s in compared to other museums/ vessels I’ve been to.
@davidvines6498
@davidvines6498 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been on the USS Drum and the Sub in Charleston SC, 2 Aircraft Carries and a Battleship. My dad was a SeaBee, Pacific Theatre, WW2. He grew up in a small mining town, lived through the Depression and considered a Ship of any size to be a Luxury ,
@shelbyseelbach9568
@shelbyseelbach9568 3 жыл бұрын
Come to Galveston, Texas. Take a walk through the USS Cavala, another WW2 submarine. It is the only intact submarine in the world credited with sinking an aircraft carrier. Hell ya!
@leeengelsman6356
@leeengelsman6356 3 жыл бұрын
It takes an awful lot of hits and to sink an aircraft carrier.
@Rekaert
@Rekaert 3 жыл бұрын
There aren't enough movies set in the pacific theater during WW2. Nearly all Sub films are focused on the Atlantic. Even U-571 that dealt with American submariners moved the film to the Atlantic, and caused a bit of Stolen-Valour type situation by essentially rewriting historical events. I'll never to this day understand that choice. After Pearl Harbour, the Americans did amazing things with submarines in the Pacific against the Japanese. Guys like Morton and O'Kane on the Wahoo and Tang alone provided enough material for an entire series of films. Yet beyond Run Silent, Run Deep, we've seen precious few movies set in that time and place, and frankly, it baffles me.
@samiam619
@samiam619 2 жыл бұрын
OTOH, we do have Das Boot…
@Rekaert
@Rekaert 2 жыл бұрын
@@samiam619 Still to this day arguably the best U-boat film/series available, but again set in the Atlantic and the Med to a certain degree. Still great though.
@bigdaddyt8999
@bigdaddyt8999 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing and stunning seeing how technology has advanced over the years
@justadbeer
@justadbeer 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video. This brought back old memories. I remember when I was a kid in the 60's my dad took me on a sub (The USS Tambor) that was docked on the Detroit river near Belle Isle, behind the navel armory.
@rascal0175
@rascal0175 3 жыл бұрын
I did that too. I used to get a kick out of crossing the Belle Isle bridge and looking down on that moored sub.
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