A Weird Modern League with Jund | Reid Duke

Not every league goes as planned! Reid tackles one of his weirdest Modern leagues in a while with his favorite deck, Jund Midrange!
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[@pytawidmo]

That 61 cards was actually an error, Christopher himself said that the deck only played one triome / Ziatora's Proving Ground but the list that was posted had 2 because of a mistake.

[@MagicMetalMoney]

Thank you!

[@barlen84]

Impossible… since his name starts with a K

[@DuelistZephyr]

I was chatting with the guy who built this deck in the Jund discord, they incorrectly published his deck list. It was 60 cards with 1 triome, and the weather the storms were because he’s in Dallas and burn is notoriously common there!

[@DevilbunnyMulti]

Any chance you coud throw me a link to the discord

[@JohnFromAccounting]

Crazy that in the post Modern Horizons 2 meta, Deathrite Shaman wouldn't feel out of place in power level.

[@swank8508]

every game would either start in ragavan trading with shaman or the player who didnt start with a 1 mana planeswalker insta scooping lmao

[@Leo-pr7ly]

3:40 "61 Cards - that's not an error!" actually was an error by the dude, who transcripted Chris' decklist. He played 24 lands with only 1 triome.

[@lelandhutchinson3374]

Man just like the old days good to see you play jund again you were the reason I got into modern years ago though I am a blue moon player myself.

[@adamrook]

Would love to see Reid run some other BGx variations, especially Sultai

[@gpgp9198]

No juego Jund, jamás lo jugué y creo que jamás lo jugare. No es que no me guste el arquetipo ni nada. Pero lo que si es seguro es que siempre es un placer verlo al maestro Duke con sus ligas, piloteando este clásico arquetipo de Modern.

[@welovewii4]

25 lands feels absolutely insane. Esp with no bbe and only 2 charm which can eat a lot of mana with the draw 3. I mean look how bad you flooded out r1

[@czairkolmoslink5952]

It was only 24 lands. The Two Triome was a error

[@marcbodis3257]

It seems like the Canopy lands and Fetches in support with Wrenn and Six could thin out those lands rather quickly

[@lucarr1041]

I feel like there could be an argument for 25 lands, seeing as you have a number of lands that you can cycle/channel for value. You're effectively flooding like a 20-21 land deck, and even a deck which is 1/3 land still shouldn't hit 8 lands in 13 draws that often. I'd also be hesitant to draw conclusions from just one game, seeing as the mana seemed fine in the other games.

[@mate4951]

People: "Hmmm, this guy is so gentle and professional!..." Meanwhile: 58:54

[@chasecollins5958]

every single time I see jund win, I say "Get Jund'd"

[@RichieDubbz]

Woah... 0 k command? Never thought id see this day

[@aklepatzky]

25 lands is too many

[@JoeyPaulProductions]

Babe wake up another Reid Duke Jund video dropped

[@CantonMasterDrummer]

As I’m watching this version of Jund fly, I feel so terrible for you to deal with such inconsistencies in land drops and mana floods. Haha. Idk why Jund must experience such wraths on MGTO and MTGA.

[@lordgriselbrand4600]

super well played waiting for that ephemerate!

[@joshdarnit69lol]

Reid, wondering how often you win by ultimating Wrenn and Six in the very grindy match ups

[@sethglickman7642]

A blessing from the lord!😂

[@algol8659]

"61 cards lowers percentage of games with t1 Ragavan". Proceeds to open t1 Ragavan in the very first game. Pro move

[@kentgallmann1979]

fr fr no kizzy

[@sumerian_robot9561]

Poor Reid.... sooo much flooood

[@drunkenrobinson3218]

i don't even have to watch this to like it, it's REID DUKE JUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@FaithlessLooter]

2:10:27 I would have done the exact opposite and made every card possible in my deck mismatched art just to spite those whiny manchildren.

[@Lightsong001]

Your first 3 turns against Murktide was the worst luck and variance I think I've ever seen

[@jazzyhorde]

Do you normally side out goyf in the yorion match ups ?

[@colgatelampinen2501]

Restarting game is such cool mechanic. Shame they do not do it anymore.

[@emperornapoleon6204]

The Jund 5-0😂

[@shawnkayian8241]

wow someone get this man a den of the bugbear!

[@vecvecvec]

raging ravine is a lot better in this deck, only tapping for 1 color is a huge drawback (and if it attacks even once its immune to future bolts etc)

[@conorwasson4727]

In general, when playing vs murktide, isn't it better to cast kroxa on turn 2 into open mama? You don't care much if it gets countered because it gets a card out of their hand either way, and wastes their turn

[@lucarr1041]

Playing an early Kroxa into counterspell mana will rarely take the counterspell out of their hand. They can just let Kroxa resolve and discard something that's worth less to them. You're going to have to play into the counterspell at some point anyway, so you'd much rather play something that baits out the counterspell. It's also possible that they have something like Consider in their hand, so when you don't play something worth countering, they can still do something useful with their turn. Post-sideboard, playing Kroxa early also gets worse, as they have more of a chance to dig for graveyard hate with Expressive Iteration/Consider. If you have nothing better to do with your mana on turn 2, playing Kroxa is fine, but I don't think you should aim to play Kroxa earlier just because your opponent has a counterspell.

[@tamserenity]

With Wrenn, having a sure land drop every turn, shouldn't there be a bomb to work too??

[@rekenner]

If you have W6 sticking, you're already ahead. Don't play cards that are only good if you're ahead

[@matthewjoslin6777]

No BBE? Is that the norm now?

[@jacksonpeterson1647]

Man that tron opponent was so bad. Ugin and -2 just won and he went for KGC Ballista ??

[@czairkolmoslink5952]

Yeah the deck only has 24 lands the Triome land is only in the deck 1 once

[@masterplayer2017]

I think u play that wren a turn earlier in game 3 rnd 1 u win.

[@cannonspectacle5195]

Can someone explain to me why Unlicensed Hearse became such a staple over cards like Relic?

[@aaronw1026]

It’s better than relic for decks that want to keep their own graveyard in tact. Hearse also has the perk of becoming a good threat over time.

[@jamiepatten5173]

Hearse targets, so you can get specific cards out. Relic is dealers choice. Plus the above comment

[@agh3569]

lost me at 61 cards!

[@roberteaves5108]

There are too many lands in the deck.

[@rabiinonoobmermx281]

alguien sabe en que plataforma est ajugando??

[@randpummill4233]

MTGO - Magic the Gathering Online

[@erelfink8822]

Instant click

[@bigtree3187]

25 lands its just too much….

[@lucarr1041]

He has both Nurturing Peatland and Barren Moor in that mana base, plus the recent addition of Boseju. I think 25 lands might be less optimal than 24, but it's far from being "just too much"

[@bigtree3187]

@@lucarr1041 its too many lands, playing wrenn and six you dont need that many. I dont think you have played this arquetype ever

[@lucarr1041]

​@@bigtree3187 I might not have experience playing the archetype, but if you'll permit me to appeal to authority, Reid didn't seem to think it was an outright mistake. Also, the amount of variance there is in how many lands you draw makes it very difficult to draw conclusions about the amount of difference 1 extra land makes just from experience. As for the extra land making the land count too high with W&6 in particular, I'm not so convinced. From what I can tell from other comments, the extra land was the second triome. The triomes are fetchable, so you can easily thin them out of the deck if you're looping fetchlands with Wrenn, and they can also be cycled, which combos well with Wrenn to make a late-game card draw engine. I would also like to again point out the increased number of spell-lands being played compared to previous iterations of Jund. Older versions of BBE Jund may have been playing 24 lands with just Peatland and Raging Ravine as lands that use up mana. Adding Barren Moor and Boseju, which are both cycled/channelled more often than not, plus triomes (which are also cycled relatively frequently) means that although the land count appears higher, several cards contributing to that count are filling the role of spells. So, no, I haven't played this archetype enough, but also I doubt many people have. At least theoretically, 25 lands is justifiable, even taking W&6 into account

[@bigtree3187]

@@lucarr1041 the thory you have is good on paper man, but playing 23~22 lands, which 7~8 usually being fetchlands, the games where i get mana flooded are very high. I often get to cast evrything. Also on thr bbe case, she is not good anymore, also the mana curve is much smaller than before, you dont need that many lands, you get mana screwed very often. With this reid brew you technicaly are plating aroud 29 lands, counting wrenn as a landrop, its true that the cycling lands are good, i usually play a forgotten cave, barren moor and a ziatora's. Under my experience and with the ones i discuss about bgx decks, we definetly agreed that this was too much. Its playable? Yes But its not optimal

[@lucarr1041]

@@bigtree3187 Ah, ok. I was missing the context that this comes from a community of BGx players. I can definitely see 27 lands (counting Wrenns, exclusing Barren Moor and Boseju) being too many for the archetype. I brought up the BBE decks as an example of the same archetype prior to the spell lands released in the past couple of sets, but I'm aware it's not really where you want to be these days. I agree that shifting to a curve that tops out at 3 and not having to feel bad about bloodbraid hitting a 1-cost card makes it easier to get away with playing fewer lands. I'll admit I was working under the assumption that 24 lands was the norm for a deck that plays so many 3-drops; If people are playing significantly fewer than that by default then 25 is definitely too much.

[@UmmGamer]

losing two games to flooding is super fucking anticlimactic

[@Higley1234]

61 cards 🤮

[@linpows]

Nvm, I am an idiot :)

[@lucarr1041]

You still need to pay life for peatland to add mana. Unless there was a point where Reid used the peatland instead of a painless land, it probably doesn't change anything that there's an Oath of Nissa

[@linpows]

@@lucarr1041 for some reason I thought it had a colorless option. Reading the card does indeed explain the card.

[@marioeldelabata]

If at least some of the lands he draw when he flooded were like... Let's say like... A land with an activated ability that creates contruct tokens for two turns and then you can search for artifacts with mana cost 1 or 0... Man I wish such a card just existed, it would be cool right? Oh wait...

[@lucarr1041]

Urza's Saga not adding coloured mana really hurts when you're short on lands, though. There's an argument that there should be maybe one or two more lands like Peatland/Barren Moor/Boseju, but if you're thinking of adding Sagas, you're probably looking at a different archetype (especially considering you have to play 0- and 1-cost artifacts to search for)

[@JohnFromAccounting]

Jund is way too greedy if it's a Saga deck, and will lose to bad mana more than a little. I like The Rock way better as a Saga deck than Jund.

[@grzegorzgorzkowski9199]

You can not count saga as a land. More like a "spell". In Jund, It is teribble land and mediocre spell to be honest.

[@marioeldelabata]

@@grzegorzgorzkowski9199 fine, because when reid was flooded he needed spells, not Landa. And the terrible land can win games on its own

[@marioeldelabata]

@@JohnFromAccounting the rock doesn't have wrenn and six... I play jund saga and i sometimes have Lost because of color, but i've won some imposible matches thanks to a saga into shadowspear, so I still prefer saga versions

[@lorenzomenichetti7729]

Can we just let this deck die and accept Omnath exists?

[@grzegorzgorzkowski9199]

The problem is you don't have much of an alternative. A similar deck that would be good. And not everyone is happy to play anything.

[@pyrofire14]

Another mediocre Jund deck, another mediocre result. Love Reid but not sure why CFB keeps paying him to make the same content over and over again that doesn’t produce results or teach viewers anything new

[@iMJBNi]

This list (minus the second Ziatora's Proving Grounds) took 4th place at the Dreamhack Dallas 10k Modern tournament. Jund may not be top of the meta but taking 4th place at a tournament with around 200 players is no small feat.

[@grzegorzgorzkowski9199]

For exactly the same reason why TV stations produce some crap programs. You won't learn anything new from them either, but viewership is important.

[@stefanscutilus1087]

Oh maybe because a lot of people love Jund? And especially seeing Reid Duke play their favorite deck?

[@michaelangio]

I love Reid Duke, but I saw Ragavan and immediately turned the video off.

[@tricksonafixed]

It’s correct to play Ragavan. You’d be foolish not to play it in Jund.

[@aklepatzky]

Long life the monke

[@Generic42]

What’s wrong with Ragavan in Jund? You feel like it doesn’t belong?

[@Leo-pr7ly]

you can't play Jund without Monkey anymore, he brings too much value. 3x monkey is kinda a must atm.

[@kylejoly577]

'I love Reid Duke, but I'd prefer he purposefully avoid play good cards in a competitive setting' ???

[@pijiu4u]

If you miss old Jund like me check out my tiktok! www.tiktok.com/t/ZTdwGXhBR/?k=1

[@Higley1234]

61 cards 🤮