A1200 PiStorm32 Vs '060 in A3000, A4000!

[@d_vibe-swe]

The raw power from a pistorm is astonishing. And it also shows how flexible the Amiga system is.

[@HoldandModify]

It is super sweet!

[@keyboard_g]

When you load up your star ship, on your Am-iga Thats, A Moire!

[@TheGalacticIndian]

I would love to see more videos on compatibility🤗

[@JS-wl3gi]

Wow the pi-storm is coming along good, amazes me how the amiga community just keeps pushing forward. Like to see the vampire 4v render time.

[@SledgeFox]

Great, so you can use the PiStorm to render and spare wear and tear on the 060 CPU's and it's so much faster too! Thank you for another video!

[@HoldandModify]

Exactly! Save the originals!

[@toddchamberlain6507]

Very cool. It'd been great to have a V4 sometime in the mix too. I'm thinking that screen updates, and scrolling, and bounding boxes & previews would all have been significantly faster & smoother than the Pi or 060 - but V4 renders probably would have been 3x-4x faster than 060, but 3x slower than eMu CPU? Sometime like that?

[@HoldandModify]

I’ve done videos comparing Apollo’s stuff to the 060. Your estimates are about right.

[@JohnnyReb1976]

While I expected the PiStorm to beat the 060, I never expected it to completely and utterly crush it. The 68060 was the best CPU of the era, except for that one thing that buried it against the Pentium - FPU performance. That, BTW, also killed Cyrix. On another note, I have the PiStorm (Zero2W) in my A600, but it did not improve my network speed (PCMCIA 3com Etherlink III) in comparison to Furia, so looking fwd to that wifipi support that's allegedly coming.

[@HoldandModify]

Zero2Ws are nice but not really powerhouses like the Pi3s and Pi4s. (and now Pi5s) they’re best for low to medium lifting duties. I wouldn’t expect it to boost the LAN all that much.

[@IntenseGrid]

@@HoldandModify anybody using a Pi5 on a PiStorm? Supposedly a Zero2W is only about 10% slower than a Pi 3A+. I now have both of them, so I will have to get them both tested out.

[@digitalformosan9330]

I want to do a comparison with my Vampire standalone. Really curious now.

[@thomassmith4999]

There is no comparison, a Vampire 4 standalone is 200 mips. My pistorm32 with a compute module 4 makes over 2000

[@digitalformosan9330]

@@thomassmith4999 outlandish awesome!

[@theamigashow9506]

Great comparison. I wonder if Lightwave uses the blitter to draw the wireframe? When I use fblit it is a good deal quicker, maybe that could help?

[@HoldandModify]

No clue. Be nice if somebody who knows that stuff could play around.

[@IntenseGrid]

I would love to know how to exactly set up my A1200 network interface to match yours.

[@HoldandModify]

I have videos on this. If you dig. I had to try a couple PCMCIA cards. And a couple versions of SMB.

[@NorthWay_no]

For reference, my BFG only gets full chipmem speed when clocked at 100MHz. Might change the wireframe response you feel.

[@HoldandModify]

Mine is a Rev5, it can barely hit 66.

[@libbysworld1509]

The vampire v4 will be faster when moving around the preview screen its really smooth. But it wont be as fast as the pistorm on the renders.

[@HoldandModify]

Ah good point, yes.

[@michac3796]

An hour or thereabouts for a frame... did you guys render over Farms or just kept the machines running until the director was satisfied with the results?

[@HoldandModify]

Render farms. We had stacks of machines networked. Still done that way today. :)

[@michac3796]

@@HoldandModify Stacks of machines... i'm so jealous. :D

[@HoldandModify]

@@michac3796 takes time and patience for sure. And yes. Money. ;)

[@sczygiel]

@@michac3796In those times it was a built in feature to have the multi node setup sort of simple and working out of the box. Similarly to ps3 multinode granturismo. Not frequently seen these days maybe except jmeter and blender.

[@neilpurvey8625]

@@HoldandModifynah, everything is pretty much possible in real-time these days, even path tracing is getting fast enough. Certainly you don’t need a farm to render out either anymore, ultra high end finished frames at 16k res might benefit from tiled distributed rendering but also tiled rendering still has its disadvantages. Things have really moved on, we were still using farms in the early 2000s to render lighting (basically ray traced and baked in textures but not real-time like today!). Without massively mimd compute cores no Amiga will never be able to do what is done today, fun to get nostalgic though (I personally think pistorm doesn’t really fit with the philosophy of Amiga in general)

[@cullmaster7361]

Nice vid “Q” 👍🏻 So… BFG is not overclocked and the Pi4 is not Overclocked. Another video to show them perhaps? BFG @ 75 then 100Mhz and Pi4 on overclocked 2.2Ghz 😉 I’m done with this comment now… 🍻

[@HoldandModify]

I can’t over clock my Rev5 and Rev1s. They don’t really support that. Also, I don’t overclock old rare, price, hardware like these. Heh. I could OC the Pi4, true. But it’s hard enough keeping everything cool in tight situations.

[@cullmaster7361]

@@HoldandModify yeah forgot the BFG can be picky. Got one of these and it wouldn’t entertain a 75mhz OC on my REV 5 MC68060RC60. So luckily got hold a rev 6 MC68060RC50 which at the moment is in stock 50Mhz….

[@martinclark1411]

Was it a pi3 or pi 4 and overclocked or not ?

[@HoldandModify]

Pi4 not overclocked.

[@cullmaster7361]

@@HoldandModifyBe interesting to see how the Pi4 is quicker than non-overclocked pi4 👍🏻 I have mine overclocked. Thing I noticed (Sysinfo) the internal SD drive speed went from 22MB/sec to 28MB sec. 😉

[@ddniUK]

Be good to see the bounding box performance of an 020 A1200

[@HoldandModify]

Slow. Very. Heh. Plus a stock 1200 doesn’t have the ram. Even with an add on, all I have is a 8mb FPU card for it, if retaining the stock CPU speed is desired.

[@ddniUK]

@@HoldandModify nah give some fastram. 😂

[@HoldandModify]

@ddniUK oh I mean yeah I could set up a real speed WinUae profile. True. Still going to be slooooow. ;)

[@IntenseGrid]

Ethernet on the PiStorm32 would be even better. Does it work yet?

[@HoldandModify]

I believe so. I haven’t verified.

[@sczygiel]

Dont want to be picky buuuuuut :) Can you do the same on a newish pc with UAE?

[@HoldandModify]

It’ll smoking fast. WinUAE isn’t that much slower than actual Windows LW5!