World Champ's Untold Story Of Hidden EPO Use | Geneviève Jeanson

[@TheRoadmanPodcast]

If you enjoyed this chat you should check out my interview with one of the greats, Greg LeMond kzbin.info/www/bejne/banUZoOHq6d5rKs

[@curtvaughan2836]

I've watched that one, and think I commented on it. It was a great interview with Lemond. I'm impressed with how you manage to score good interviews with controversial people in the pro-cycling circuit. Much appreciated!

[@brynthomas1500]

The strength of women never ceases to amaze me, so much respect and admiration for Genevieve.

[@robwilliamson6831]

I am really impressed with Genevieve's resilience and her ability to realize that the shame was put on her, and not a reflection of her true self. This takes incredible courage to confront, and to learn not to carry around the baggage of shame, in order to live the life she wants for herself. Best wishes to her.

[@TadeuszPiszel]

The quality of this channel is incredible. This story and the way you handled such a difficult topic was amazing. I really appreciate the way you listen to people and let them talk.

[@cordar4521]

Powerful discussion. Thank you for speaking respectfully and Geneviève for her openness and bravery.

[@db613]

This is a great example of humans at their best helping each other overcome/talk through humanity at its worst 🙏❤

[@TheRoadmanPodcast]

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[@TheNotSoFakeNews]

Don't worry too much about the 90% not subscribed, that just means the channel is growing and the algorithm is pushing your vids to more and more people

[@TheRoadmanPodcast]

nice tip, thanks

[@brianmessemer2973]

Folks, go watch his Greg LeMond interview after this if you haven't already done so. Last month I watched your LeMond interview when I was on summer holiday in Japan and was *totally* blown away by the quality of the interview and the immense openness with which Greg spoke to you. I happily subscribed to your channel right there on the spot. This one looks heavy but I believe in the quality of your work and will get into it presently. Also I just saw you uploaded an interview with Jay Vine last week - will circle back to that for sure as well.

[@brianmessemer2973]

One our later: watched the entire interview. Very disturbing but an excellent interview, well done to help Genevieve bring her story to light.

[@rorymorrissey8238]

Fantastic interview Anthony. Genevieve is a truely remarkable human being

[@Scott-ph2yk]

Sad story. I am glad to hear that Ms. Jeanson has gotten help, and worked hard to rebuild her life in her own way. Empowering! Inspiring! Genevieve, thank you for sharing your story. Anthony, another great interview.

[@55Reever]

This lady has to be appreciated for shedding light on something that is in the shadows of life. She's strong.

[@andyg9991]

What a fantastic human being! Genevieve is truly a special person and while her story is extremely disturbing, it is also very inspirational. As she said, I hope anyone that needs help finds the courage from this interview and gets the help they need in overcoming their situation. Anthony, more of this please!

[@durianriders]

she doped and used her aesthetics to gain financial and social advantage. Coach got what he wanted and she got what she wanted - fame and glory.

[@andyg9991]

@@durianriders Yep, Im sure every 14 year old female cyclist wants to have sex with her coach. Hey, Haven't you been accused of inappropriate behaviour as well?

[@eto2352]

I remember hearing Genevieve's interview years ago on Cyclingnews, I think. She sounds so much more confident and empowered now. It's great to see her out the other side of the darkness. Amazing to hear she is partnering with Lynne Besette for a race! Legend.

[@independentmind1977]

Being a Canadian, working in the Mental Health field and cyclist myself, I heard about her story, but it's good to have the inside track on this. Thanks for putting this out, and thanks Genevieve for sharing.

[@dcolling216]

So happy to hear you're finding joy in sports again! Wishing you continued healing and wellness.

[@balloffires]

My goodness, what a story. I knew a bit of this but it was very interesting to hear it to this depth. Thanks to both of you for doing this!

[@bb-r5710]

Excellent story. Thank you Genevieve for sharing. Glad she is on her way to healing

[@curtvaughan2836]

Great interview on two sensitive, and in the case intertwined subjects - doping and abuse of minors in sport. And kudos to this young woman (hey, I'm 71) on her future adventures with cycling, and with life in general. It was a joy to hear her story.

[@nytrocircus]

Thank you so so much for sharing your story Genevieve! You are a true Champion human being whose courage I admire greatly. Back in the day, I was racing the men's P, 1-2 at the Cloudsplitter stage race in Lake Placid and my sister in law was there with the Terry Precision team. We had some really good time trialer's in our men's team, but none of us posted a faster time than you! We all got 'girled'. As I recall, your time would have put you in the top ten of the men's results. Your performance was so strong, we all KNEW you were going illegally fast and it was just a matter of time before you were caught; but when the rest of the story came out, we were all horrified and really sad for you. My brother and I were so lucky to have both the Buffalo Bicycling Club and our coach Ted Smith starting out. Ted was a Champion person along with being a Champion on the bicycle. From day one he told us: No excuses. And Real Champions never cheat and cheaters are never real Champions; imagine how you'd feel if you doped and didn't win? And if you do win, deep down inside you know you are a fraud. That made a big impression and set us on our path of never doping. For sure it was tough to watch riders you could once drop suddenly be so fast you couldn't hold their wheel. For that reason we stayed Cat 1's rather than turning pro. Some team mates quit the sport all together. In the end, while my brother and I didn't get to do the biggest races, we did get to own our results and have only positive memories from our careers.

[@johncoppinger2530]

this was a wonderful and powerful chat. thank you roadman

[@scottygra]

i saw it first hand . i was the soigneur for the team she was on at the race where she got caught . Her coach/ abuser was keeping her segregated for everyone . This person/ asshole had complete and utter control of Jen . I wish I had done something.

[@daveanolik8837]

"Not trying to be the best, trying to be the best I can be." No small journey. Great interview.

[@MikeStarr1000]

Young, impressionable, abused... a story that will always be around. Tough interview

[@johnpiccioli650]

Excellent interview and story, filled with deep emotional thought provoking questions and revelations. Thank you Genevieve for sharing your story. You are an amazing person. It is inspiring to see a person survive and thrive through incredible hardship. Anthony, you have a gift for asking the right questions to allow your guests to share the best best they have to offer. This is the best interview I have seen from you or anyone else for that matter. Keep up the fantastic work. Looking forward to your next masterpiece.

[@lochdhud]

Great Interview! I love the discussion on the cost of Elitism, and how being and elite is staggering regardless of your choice of a profession (business, education, sport, culinary, or arts). What type of standard are we setting by idolizing the top 1% of the top 1%. Does this make 99. 9999% of us fail to make the grade. At one time in my life when I was young I dedicated a year of my life to jump to the next level of athletics, in that year the only person that I saw was my dog. If I went out with a friend for a night it invariably cost me a week of training. The same thing happened in my pursuit of music. In order to rise to the next level I had to dedicate my entire life to my piano. Fortunately I fell in love and had a family which quicky showed me what was truly important.

[@EMC2Scotia]

Vilified at the time, little did everyone know. The one thing that she did as a rider I always remembered, was at a worlds, perhaps 99? She attacked literally from the gun and only one other rider followed. Stayed away the entire race. It was just incredible. Great interview, and great to see she is doing well and happy in life.

[@philipthiessen9972]

You are so strong, so resilient, and your story is powerful. Please keep telling your story.

[@elizabethpoley6882]

In my family, knowledge is something you work on for a lifetime. I went to UCLA in my early 40s. It didn't bother me to have 18 yr old friends. It helps to keep you young. I would still like to go back for grad school.

[@keepitreal1547]

A fantastic, brave, open & honest interview. It's so so wrong how Jen was taken advantage of & treated. Any kind of abuse in sports must be stopped & those abusing must be severely punished. Anthony, you're an excellent interviewer & you have all what it takes to take this as far as you'd like. Any former cyclist, current cyclist or others involved in the sport would welcome being interviewed by you, your style gets to the bottom of the subject in a friendly, yet professional way...& without any conflict or uncomfortable moments. Very hard to to & very few achieve. For me, the only question missing was to ask Jen if she still considered herself to be the 1999 world junior road & tt champion, knowing she competed while taking EPO. My personal belief is that any athlete found out to be taking drugs at the times of racing, ought to be stripped of their performance standings/medals. As a former 100% clean road rider, I feel this more than many as I competed against those that were dopers & always felt cheated, but still my strong principles wouldn't allow me to do as they did.

[@bobtysen5917]

Anthony and Genevieve great interview. This story is incredible. Genevieve, you are so strong and you will succeed in your new life. As for endurance racing, have a glass of wine every eight hours and continue riding😊Please keep sharing your story

[@juliemiller80]

Genevieve… I used to see you race at the Redlands Classic in the ‘90s. I was a huge fan and even have a Rona jersey. I saw your stage win at the top of Oak Glen and I noticed something. After the race, you were sitting off by yourself and you didn’t look happy. I stood and watched you for a minute and I wanted to say something to you but I knew you didn’t speak English. I am sorry I didn’t go over to you and just give you an encouraging smile or something. I have learned over the years to trust my instincts and if it was today. You would have gotten a hug. Thanks for sharing your story.

[@jeffreypeters1902]

Just discovered this podcast recently. Terrific interviews! Great in the ear pods on a training ride. Cheers

[@gregor299]

Ah, man. Good luck, Genevieve. As a Canadian I've known of your journey and it's so nice to hear from you. Allez!

[@chrismadge7292]

Another great interview, with an important message.

[@CFCMahomet]

This was an excellent interview and very important given that we are seeing cyclist being signed to teams and developed at younger and younger ages into the pro ranks. In the Armstrong era cyclists were willfully making choices, but these younger cyclists have so little control and so much pressure from those who are guiding and coaching them.

[@durianriders]

yeah teenagers are easy to control! You can make them do anything they dont want to do! Just ask any parent how easy it is to coerce teenagers into doing what you want them to do...

[@beetrootpro]

Excellent interview. She's always been a special person and athlete. Glad to see she's in a much better place in life.

[@LeoLaPrimo]

Thank you for sharing your story.

[@stephenmorris6202]

What a harrowing story. Unfortunately there seem to be many stories of coach abuse emerging over the last few years. The various sports bodies have to put in support and policing mechanisms. Shame her friends didn't vocalise their suspicions. Victims of abuse are generally disenfranchised and need support. But Genevieve came across as a remarkable person who has not allowed this to define her and is now writing her own life. How impressive.

[@monty2078]

What a tremendously brave woman

[@michaelr1739]

Fantastic podcast. Thank you, both of you!

[@billhall6746]

No surprise. Have seen the damage done when winning is more important than moral ethics.

[@stephanel4770]

Mon Dieu, Geneviève. Quel histoire atroce. Je me rappelle de toi au Championnat Mondiaux à Hamilton. Incroyable ce que tu as vécu. Merci d’avoir partager ton histoire. J’ai 2 jeunes filles de 15-17 ans… difficile d’entendre ton histoire

[@kurtg3891]

i remember seeing Geneviève winning almost every event she rode back when she raced on team Rona in the northeast area and she was so thin it was amazing to witness how that much pedal power could possibly come out of such a tiny person, i dont think she weighed even 100 lbs.?... So whatever combination of all those performance enhancing drugs she used at that time were, they certainly did work !

[@jameslopez958]

Thanks for sharing your story! Peace ✌️ And Love 💞 from Tucson Arizona Desert 🏜️🙏.

[@adadinthelifeofacyclist]

This is a story of grooming and exploitation, not doping. The doping was just an integral part of the exploitation. A real eye-opener.

[@alanrogala1167]

Brilliant video!

[@roebbiej]

Genevieve, you are a very brave woman.

[@donsolomon8501]

Very cool discussion.

[@EnligUlv]

Riveting story. Wish her well on the 2nd half. This has got to be the most meaningful cycling related video on the internet 👍

[@VideoPresence2020]

As bad as you may think you feel about taking the drugs, you did have a choice to stop. Losing your enhanced capability was the alternative. But doing that was not the path you followed. Many of us have unknowns about the future and paths we take, and those who do not take those risks do not get those opportunities. Your opportunity was to live the life of a non-professional athlete working a regular job. Your interview sounds more like your guilt than guidance to others about how to make better choices.

[@durianriders]

1000%. Good luck getting ANY woman/girl to do things they DONT want to do lol.

[@tonybalzan3160]

Agreed. I was cycling in that era also, we all make choices. She made hers. Many of us walked away irrespective of how difficult it was.

[@kenhalal375]

I remember Genevieve when she hit the scene and came to the Phoenix area. I was racing for a respected masters team and we would be out on our weekend group rides. Genevieve would go flying by us like we were kids riding our bikes. Quite often motor pacing for hours. At Tour of the Gila in I believe 2000 she went flying right by us like we were standing still. A few minutes later the pro women peloton in full cry chasing her. I never met her personally but do have friends who have met her since her ban for PED's. Everyone had super nice things to say about her. I was not aware of the physical and sexual abuse by her coach until watching this podcast but do know of other professional female cyclists that were intimately involved with their much older coaches. When Genevieve got busted it was no surprise to anyone. I believe it was common knowledge that she was using EPO. I do believe without EPO, with proper coaching and a positive environment she still would have achieved a very high level regardless. I'm so glad to see she's back on her bike, training and competing once again. I wish her the best of success.

[@durianriders]

no way bro. No EPO no championships. She wanted the life she had back then. NOTHING from stopping her going to police or talking to people. Women ONLY do what they want to do in life remember. They ONLY stay in situations longterm that BENEFIT them. Meanwhile REAL victims of abuse dont get any light on this podcast etc because they were not world beaters juice to the gills.

[@kenhalal375]

@@durianriders I think at such very young age she had no idea what she wanted out of life. Even if you take the EPO out of the equation she was manipulated by a 40+ year old male when she was like 15. That in itself is disgusting. I think your idea of running to the police would be a little more plausible if she was an adult. While I’m quite familiar with the concept of people staying in situations only to benefit themselves I think applying that to a minor doesn’t really apply. But thanks for your interesting perspective

[@andyg9991]

@@kenhalal375 Its not an interesting perspective at all. She was coerced, end of story. To say she had any choice once she was taken away from her family is sheer lunacy. Actually, wasn't Mr Durianrider accused of such conduct himself? Seems like every accusation is an admission....

[@kenhalal375]

@@andyg9991 I don't know Mr Durian.... so won't speculate on his conduct. I think everyone is entitled to their opinion and should be able to express it. I don't agree with him at all but that's neither here nor there. I think you I are on the same page in that she was coerced and abused. I'm assuming you are or were a competitive cyclist. So there is a certain amount of appreciation and respect for sacrifices made to compete at any level in the sport. Regardless of the EPO use she put in a huge amount of time that I believe deserves some level of respect. Maybe more so in this case because of the abusive part of it. That's a heavy burden to carry as a young professional athlete.

[@andyg9991]

@@kenhalal375 Yes, competitive masters cyclist and yes we agree on pretty much everything you wrote. You need to understand the muck-raking that Harley (Durianrider) will try to get away with. Every accusation is an admission. Google his name and find out what kind of person he really is.

[@ChromeLuxx]

There is a female pro from Southern California that started earlier than 16, and unnaturally won everything fully sanctioned and supported (at the expense of many other more deserving ladies) by the governing body. Once on the pro circuit and the field was evened she a peloton anchor.

[@stephensmith2275]

I don't care if you were on EPO or not, you were a phenomenal athlete and cyclist. I remember a race you did in Vermont years ago and you were so much better than anyone else. I'm sad for you that you had to endure so much and didn't get a chance to really enjoy your time as a pro.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

That "better" is easily explained. Everyone responds differently to EPO but there have been ok Cat 4s that have moved up to national masters podiums thanks to EPO. Very regularly people doing extraordinary things. You'd possibly be even more elite with EPO. You don't know until you try it.

[@durianriders]

What about all the women she ROBBED because she CHOSE to take EPO vs run away? If she never got busted she would have stayed silent and taken the applause. IYKYK.

[@andyg9991]

@@durianriders Yep, Im sure she choose to take EPO, just like she choose to have sex with a 40+ year old guy. FFS, your grasp on reality is tenuous at best. You're making out as if she did what Lance did. By the way , are women still accusing you of similar behaviour?

[@Richz2]

I would imagine this was a difficult interview to do. Not many people would speak so freely & openly. Hopefully it will help someone..

[@durianriders]

She is laughing about it. Not the reaction of someone who had been 'abused'.

[@curtvaughan2836]

Thanks!

[@randybrown4774]

If you have a conscience cheating is not worth it. You'll feel so guilty.

[@systemicchaos3921]

Some people like her only feel guilt after they've consumed the good side effects of her cheating

[@dustind9242]

Wondering if the months or years of her previous training with epo has caused any permanent physiological advantages?

[@durianriders]

The irony without her coach she wouldnt be invited on this podcast and nobody would know who she is. He was right. He DID make her the best cyclist of her era. Look how tough she is now! She is a bad ass! I believe every word she says. Women dont lie! It is interesting a coach would demand his teenage cyclist to use EPO vs just inject them privately and say it was vitamins like ALL the other coaches did.... Why would you incriminate yourself like that as a coach? You wouldnt. You would just say it was vitamins like the Festina docs did. Look at all the footage back then. She looks SUPER happy and healthy. Not the face of someone being abused IME.

[@jameslopez958]

I Gravel Racing! It's about proving to each other who is the Best! 👍✌️😎❤️🙏

[@durianriders]

EPO is RIFE in gravel racing now. IYKYK.

[@zikaperic2133]

Wait where were the parents all that time

[@bobbrian6526]

the behaviour of the coach was appalling. This athlete and her parents should accept responsibility for their own poor decisions though, you can choose not to leave school and not to take illegal performance enhancing drugs, and not to leave home with an older man at the age of 16

[@kpsig]

Tough, honest words…

[@HkFinn83]

First of all EPO is not illegal to own or use as a PED (it’s against the rules of uci sanctioned events), and having an older boyfriend is neither illegal or unusual. The judgemental tone is not necessary.

[@bobbrian6526]

@@HkFinn83 the point - which you have missed - is that she made a series of stupid decisions and was a cheat, and she should take responsibility for that

[@888jucu]

Heavy interview indeed

[@AnomadAlaska]

God bless you Geneviève Jeanson.

[@alistairlawson7514]

I remember at the time thinking it was not right.. turns out I was right.

[@markcynic808]

Teen drops out of school, takes drugs, gets caught taking drugs, fails at career, goes back to school.

[@WarHammerWH]

She didn’t fail.

[@markcynic808]

@@WarHammerWH Yeah, she did.

[@WarHammerWH]

@@markcynic808 Well I can’t counter that bullet proof argument. I guess you’re right then.

[@markcynic808]

@@WarHammerWH I usually am.

[@durianriders]

You left out the bit 'blames all her behavior on the man she CHOSE to live with and run off with.

[@glywnniswells9480]

Woman often take it too personally when men are told to lose weight for xycling they never mke a thing of it.

[@Second247]

Such a heavy story.

[@chrisbinch800]

Riders are probably thinner now.

[@jimbarron8688]

Get that blood passport established early.

[@phililpb]

How can she still claim world titles whilst admitting to PED use

[@phililpb]

@@DaleRC75 makes no difference she still should be stripped of any titles

[@phililpb]

Lance Armstrong admitted it eventually

[@roadcyclist1]

​@phililpb why? All of her opponents doped too.

[@phililpb]

@@roadcyclist1 so were Armstrong's opponents. That is not really a defence.

[@roadcyclist1]

@phililpb getting caught and admitting are 2 different things. She never got caught. Also, no one cares about women's cycling, so her titles are safe.

[@hakapeszimaki8369]

I do not know is there any pro athlete who is not taking doping?

[@johnlinvill8819]

Jeanson with gray hair, I feel … am old

[@flz00]

Great podcast-this episode and in general! Keep it up 🚵‍♂🤍