Abandoned Framing Project | #1, We've Got Structural Issues..

[@MattBangsWood]

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[@Gilagain54]

Matt, it is so refreshing to see a KZbinr that knows his craft and trade. I just about vomit when I see other channels that call their selves building channels and I cringe at the work they are doing. And then you have the DIY'er doing them same thing... There are channels that if they were to give me the house they built, I would have to say thanks but no thanks. I know California has the some of the strict codes but they are meant to keep people safe. Anyhow, I will stop rambling. Love the channel and the work you and your crew do. "Keep on Banging!"

[@shanechick772]

Great window layout overview! I love how you could talk about the project mistakes without talking bad on the other contractor, we all make mistakes and we never know what battles someone else is fighting. I admire your taking the high road. The work flow conversation at the end was pretty great also.

[@MattBangsWood]

Talking down of others does nothing for me. I don’t know why or how things got missed and I make mistakes all the time, so who am I to judge.

[@kylemcqueen9465]

@@MattBangsWood that is why your one of my fav building channels always a class act

[@MattBangsWood]

This project is a MESS. We're going to be done with this in a few days, looking forward to showing you all.

[@Z-Bart]

I like your idea of floating in gypcrete to level up the floor.

[@lorenrickey5481]

I agree. Quieter floor.

[@HomeImProveMentHow]

*Nothing like a Challenge* Thanks for sharing look forward to hear from you. PS where you at here in California. By for now Ken

[@Nicholas-f5]

Had they used cheap labor?

[@JustinColburn]

Matt, I appreciate the detailed video. Thanks for explaining the 3o5o and 2o2o. You obviously make it look easy, but it certainly helps me understand!

[@dtitus74]

I used to deliver equipment for United Rentals. I once came upon a job as bad if not worse then this. I had to report it to the city as it was an apartment complex. There’s a difference between bad framing and just straight up dangerous. This looks very dangerous.

[@markst.martinii9635]

Might be my favorite video you’ve done Matt. I really enjoyed you walking through the layout of the windows. Your camera man needs a raise lol

[@royordway9157]

Hey Matt, I'm on the other corner of the country in Maine. I'm in my 47th year banging nails so I'm old school, but I embrace the new methods and codes. Ov course we don't deal with the earthquake stuff just 70# roof loads and 4' frost lines. You mentioned the "old School" framer and 1 sill plate. Because in my years of working, I also do the finish work so I know we should have a double sill to make trimming the window out easier on the trim guy, me. I never knew what the minimum for code was, we just always used a double sill. I really enjoy watching you young guys build. I wish I could do the heavy stuff, but at 66, I'm worn out and busted up.

[@TDArcher]

I'm having a house built right now. it's great to see someone who knows their stuff that you can learn how the process works without a ton of fluff and BS. I'm really enjoying your videos. Compared to this build, my house is really simple.

[@TDArcher]

@MattBangsWoodmediateam370 what do you think my approach should be with the builder? 3 times he’s given me dates when he said he would start and they didn’t show. We are now 3 months past the original start date. They are telling me they’ll start next week. If they don’t, I’m afraid I’ll have to find another builder 😞

[@TDArcher]

@MattBangsWoodmediateam370 it’s not a matter of materials or money. The materials have been sitting on the job site for almost 2 months now. They just keep putting off my job for other ones

[@gabrielrojas8718]

Love the "nail resistant work shoes" 😉

[@clintrench6850]

I did prefab framing our prints came from the boss everything was precut for us and we marked out all the plates put everything together according to the print . Each wall was a separate print with a wall number . We then sent it down the line and it would get stacked at the end of the line on a stacking order and put on a truck and sent to the job site. This is interesting to me I’ve never seen how it’s done outside of a factory. Pretty interesting

[@AndresReal1998]

wear saftey glasses we had a friend that got his eye poped out from a nail gun. The nail gun slightly missed the wood and hit him. its the little things we dont pay mind to it doesnt cost you anyhting and it only takes a second to put them on. Eyes are priceless.

[@MattBangsWood]

It's something I need to work on, 100% agree..

[@YourAverageBikerBoi]

The stairs need to WOOooOoooooOoOOOp 😂

[@lorenrickey5481]

Thanks for the adding the link to the missing join button in comments. Just joined!

[@monicapttrsn]

Nice video. On the window layout around the 7 min. mark, I thought usually you give the opening an extra 1/2 inch. So I would think the rough opening for the window is 36 1/2" x 60 1/2". And then the trimmer would be 39 1/2". Divided by two, the first trimmer would be 19 3/4" from the centerline.

[@Natedoc808]

Great video and good on you for taking on this project and getting the owners squared away. This is almost as bad as the last house I worked on (remodel and addition) with no trimmers in any of the openings, and no eve blocking, the joists notched and hung on 1x ledgers and all the joists were overspan by 33%

[@carlosmerced8896]

Bang on my g 👏 stay level headed framing is in our DNA

[@MattBangsWood]

🙏

[@edwinwatkins7170]

I wouldn't mind doing a apprenticeship program under you you seem to be very knowledgeable and everything is easily comprehended, with your teaching methods real simple and straight to the point two thumbs up

[@MattBangsWood]

Appreciate this.

[@T.E.P..]

man you are doing an amazing job with the channel .. you must be learning a ton too in editing and it shows man. Thanks for keeping the channel going and hope you and the family have had a glorious summer with memories that last forever.

[@saldanakev]

Appreciate how you comment on all the mistakes , great work , love the videos! Very informative.

[@Andrewnewman11]

Dude u guys got your work cut out for u! It's a good thing u came to BANG IT OUT!! Keep doing what u do! Love the videos!

[@ia4687]

On the second floor slope. They must of misread the plans. It says patio slope but the line goes all the way thru so that's what they did.. made the slope all the way thru the back wall.. it's in the details.

[@johnelliott0101]

Matt, like the commentary and knowledge. I’m a retired printer by trade but I like watching the pro’s build something from nothing.

[@DavidGonzalez-md9je]

I've noticed that you use a variety of brands of saws. What is your opinion on the skill cordless worm drive?

[@Trapperjohn1000]

I love this channel. I’m building my second house now as a GC & love the framing stage

[@MeltinMetalAnthony]

Very Larry Haun. Great video

[@MattBangsWood]

Great guy he was.

[@jeremys5904]

Wow thats a cool neighbors yard across the street!

[@carstengrove6214]

Why do you guys you double sill plates for windows curious thanks Matt

[@danielmorales711]

Thanks for recording this

[@stich1960]

Why no single sill? I like less wood from a insulating perspective but I'm not a framer

[@Z-Bart]

MBW will fix it up.

[@mechantics]

Hey Matt, I recently salvaged 4 sets of Miami wind code compliant wooden french doors (Not cheap! They were pulled from the rear of a $25M house near Singer Island, West Palm area of Florida. We just purchased our first home, a 1933 3br/2ba on .75 acres , with a studio apartment/in-law cottage that was built in 1958. Any tips on constructing the casings? The current doors were thoughtlessly stuck in and are smaller than the replacements, which are quite heavy. Doors open out here in Florida if that changes anything significant to any pointers you might be able to give me. Thanks! Nicholas

[@krb365]

How come you're not wearing buckaroo toolbelt anymore? You looked good with the orange. Did I miss a video of the explanation?

[@199randomhero]

Matt, thanks for these incredible videos. So much useful information, thanks for taking the time to create this type of content

[@mikelee6894]

Awesome video Matt!! Great explanations and very detailed!

[@TruthseekerTwinCities]

I am just starting out as an apprentice up here in Minnesota, definitely love your videos and teaching style, if your ever looking for a hard working efficient learning apprentice would be a honor to join your crew and relocate

[@KimJongChill]

Framing in Cali sounds like an absolute dream

[@garylatture8948]

The builder/ owner was lucky to get anyone to take that job.

[@MattBangsWood]

I stopped by the project and tried to get it early on.. If I hadn’t, I don’t know that I’d take it after it’s been worked on.

[@hardymike4356]

Matt keep up the good work we all know the home owner will be more that Satisfied there’s also a Carpenter on my crew that knock shit out framing on the job and he wears vans just like you so I wouldn’t mess with anybody who friends with vans keep up the good work again

[@Natedoc808]

🍻 to us dudes who frame in vans!

[@hardymike4356]

It’s true it’s true 🍺🍺

[@dylanwheaton2785]

As a carpenter vans, and asics are what i usually wear rarely wear my irish setters unless its a demo day.

[@danielmorales711]

Which speed square to you like the best

[@CHSTRTRN]

Love the vids Matt! From the amount you charge, is it worth it dealing with the headaches that come with cleaning someone elses mess up like you are here? Or does it make more financial sense to do the builds your team does from start to finish?

[@bmlsb]

they got the right crew to correct and finish the job

[@Danyyboy11211]

When is the join button coming out bro? Looking forward to joining!

[@MattBangsWood]

www.KZbin.com/Mattbangswood/join

[@blsignaturehomes6792]

We double jack on each end. Just helps in case you need to remove one for error.

[@MattBangsWood]

Smart move!

[@saljablo2767]

There are so many little “simple” tricks in framing that I would lose my mind. A 30 window is actually 39. And that’s just for starters.

[@CascadePacificNW]

It’s not 30 is 3/0. Three feet zero inches. That’s 36 inches. Plus an inch and a half times two for trimmers on each side. 39 inches total.

[@robertspringer4019]

Coming in and fixing someone mistakes can be a giant pain in the butt. Makes you think what were they thinking.

[@TheMichaelJu]

How much are the sheathing OSB or Plywood per sheet you are using for this project now?

[@joehuinker7009]

I cannot believe how close buildings are there. Here in Wisconsin 10 ft to property line on side setback

[@andrewcarr2431]

California, same as some places in England (my homeland). When I moved to Canada I was amazed at the spaces in the Muncipalities.

[@TheRealHungryJoe]

Props to the camera guy!

[@MattBangsWood]

The camera guy is awesome!

[@shea-butter]

how important is it for your walls in your basement to match up with walls on main floor?

[@TheJoker-ex5rb]

I’m not in construction. But how would you price a project with so many unknowns and issues. All while trying to stay in the purchasers budget?

[@MattBangsWood]

You have to break down EVERYTHING.. it costs more to come in afterwards, due to these unknowns.. We’re fixing something that’s already been paid for to be built. The easiest way people do this is a payment term called Time & Material. I gave them a price to complete the whole thing, but time and material is [(hourly employee charge $65-85) x working hours + (material cost + 15%)].

[@TheJoker-ex5rb]

@@MattBangsWood thanks for response. And that makes so much sense. That would seem a major balancing act depending on customer to customer. Can’t wait to see the fixes and how y’all manage them as you move through out

[@jkesdfkm8911]

Back to the windows , a 2o window is 24” wide. So you add inch and half for the jacks on each side. Does that still give room for insulation or is that an tight fit? Just confused how much space you will have between the window sides and the jack stud. Thanks

[@MattBangsWood]

2'0 window is 24" wide, you add inch and a half to both sides.. but the window is actually 23.5", leaving you 1/2", or 1/4" around the whole window. Plenty of room to insulate with foam.

[@waterislife.9204]

Wow you all got to fix a lot of things on this build sucks people that makes short cuts makes a bad name for EPIC contractor like you & your company.

[@MattBangsWood]

Part of it becomes a challenge, like a car so close to being totaled getting put back on the road for a mechanic / body shop!

[@mariodesmo]

Seems to me that you and your crew at top notch! Good Luck!

[@meshedgears2794]

So lower deck in the bath could it be for a curb-less entry in the shower... I know its a stretch but... -MG

[@MattBangsWood]

Lower deck in just the shower area could potentially make sense, and ultimately what we came to, that it should have been lower but not the toilet + closet.

[@meshedgears2794]

@@MattBangsWood Yeah maybe, but I am currently looking at doing an 11 7/8" joist everywhere then using 9.5" joists in the baths to get the use of insulation below and electric heated floor, and to avoid using beams and a bunch of metal hangars for just the shower area. Inspectors in my area figure the entire bathroom is one big shower so they like water proofing everywhere. :) -MG

[@davidsilliman1672]

I am going to be using my nail set to hold my chalk line from now on. 🤙

[@tmthyfox]

Good blessed evening I would like to talk to you about what I can do to learn how to frame because I'm getting ready to build my house in the coming months and I would like to know what to do since this will be my first time

[@scottchampion6188]

What kind of speed square are sporting I couldn’t make out the name on it

[@siriosstar4789]

man , you have a lot of courage to take that on . what if you miss something that the other builder messed up , will you get blamed for it ?

[@jimbarchuk]

When you said stair I thought huh? Then you said 3'1"" and I literally laughed. How the freek was it off by a foot? I heard you say old school carpenter but that'd have to mean he glanced at the print and built what he thought it should be not necessarily what the paper said? That's miserable. What a ton of extra work.

[@SHuseman]

Just my opinion, on the recess, I would think 2x and 1 ¹/⁸ plywood would be the easiest. Especially from a structural point. I can't be the truss designer didn't cath that! Do those trusses have a pitch already built in?

[@MattBangsWood]

Smart man, Jay made the call, it’s what we ended up doing. 2x flat + 1/18”.. I’ll explain the only downfall in the next few videos. Pingy floor due to it being a small cavity in between.

[@SHuseman]

@@MattBangsWood looking forward to seeing that video! And any future videos including the plan review sessions too

[@ra4yu]

i may have misread the plans but wasnt that floor dropped down for screed+tile thickness in the bathroom/laundry?

[@MattBangsWood]

It’s a grey area as of now, it COULD be.. the closet and toilet shouldn’t have dropped.

[@Tylr2345]

What diameter do you use for the frame construction?

[@TheWrenchLab]

Was this an issue with the prints? Or the previous framers?

[@MattBangsWood]

Previous framers, just ‘90’s knowledge.

[@TheWrenchLab]

@@MattBangsWood 1st, love the channel! Sub'd back in January after I took a job with a small development company and starting looking into the residential build process. You make everything easy to understand and absorb. The fact that the previous framers even got the job is crazy enough that I'd love to know how they got the contract. The plans we get have a separate set of framing plans with all the details. I suspect it all had something to do with money saving given the cost of construction these days. Did the plans really leave that much of the decision making up to the framers?

[@tpep1693]

Interesting, I have never framed a door at 5 in. over, always 3, as a window.

[@JeanRoi]

I know there is a building code for builders to follow but man folks sure do like to do what they want. Sorry for the owners of that building project though. Keep up the good work according to EC

[@franciscoestrada31]

Dang brother! This one’s a doozie huh!?? Random question, how do you go about billing something like this out? Are you doing per sq ft? Or is this more of a per hr??

[@MattBangsWood]

Good question.. Fixes downstairs will be clocked hourly, upstairs was priced as a whole. I brought 8 of us to build it, I really didn’t have time to even be here so it was a get in, get out situation.

[@imedina619]

just found your channel and love it. Cool to see a young guy that knows his stuff and has pride in his work. congrats to you my friend! well done!

[@tpep1693]

I would tell your customer that you need TIME to do it right, typical construction , hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry, never ends!

[@davidsilliman1672]

Need that eat sleep Frame repeat Hoodie!

[@MattBangsWood]

They're coming back!

[@satoshione8145]

Got your hands full on correcting this framing debacle 🤦🏻‍♂️ Project is in the right hands now 😉👍🏼 🔨

[@dtitus74]

Why is that one wall a balloon wall? Is it because of the stair case? I’ve just never seen mixed framing like that but it has been a long time since I swung a hammer for a living.

[@austinrosatte2513]

Yeah, it's a tall wall for the stair case. See it a lot where I'm at in canada

[@MattBangsWood]

Prevents a hinge point there, they missed the fireblocking throughout it though, go figure.

[@stickupcity1]

Thanks Matt really appreciate the videos really informative, just wondering might be a dumb question i watched the video a few times still not quite understand what 3o5o window means? also i want to join your class but was wondering when and what time would the classes take place? thanks again just started framing and want to make this my career. really appreciate it.

[@MattBangsWood]

No dumb questions in this industry, only opportunities to learn more.. You know how many people live wondering what a 30 50 window means? A LOT.. 3'0 5'0 - 36" x 60" window, instead of inches it's in feet for callout.. 2'6 6'8 - 32" x 80" door.

[@stickupcity1]

Thanks Matt keeps the vids coming and the classes

[@venturafredis]

How much money can y make a drone floor plan a year

[@andrewcarr2431]

I can see why the builder/last framer crew got fired. was it an inspection thing or did the GC simply realise they were no bloody good at reading plans?

[@MattBangsWood]

Owner / Builder. The last guys walked, don't know what inspections they've had but it wont pass..

[@clydedecker765]

That hanging LDL and staircase do not look recoverable in any way that will be cosmetically clean in the finish. I'm sure you can make it safe but...

[@MattBangsWood]

Clyde, I'm with you there.. I can make it safe, but it's going to look terrible inside. The door it's hanging off of goes straight into the kitchen as well, so I'm not too happy with it any way we tackle it.

[@FixthisCD]

I am assuming these point loads on the first floor was a framer issue and not the architect?

[@MattBangsWood]

No, not the drawings at all. Just a lack of ability to perform what was needed. I've stressed heavily that plans are a lot like legos.. If you can read "A, B, C" and "1, 2, 3" you can build a house. Architects and Engineers are great at their scope.

[@tedspens]

2:14 I gotta make a pen like that! 😁🖋

[@lb7wade518]

That looks like a bid nightmare

[@jerrygrammer4714]

How do you bid something with this many isssues

[@joelethalcruz4417]

Hey mister Jorge how much you pay the new guy,20 in hour.🤟🤟

[@justinrutledge6090]

Larry would say snapping 2 lines is costing somebody money, lol 😆 it's such a pain snapping out interior lines only 1 side cause if you do it wrong it doesn't tell ya where to cut your intersecting wall. One of the guys I learned from, his old school from Cali an he was so good at it.

[@MattBangsWood]

Oh, I'd ruin the place snapping one side only. If it were just Fox and I framing, we could pull it off, with multiple people though we'd lose it for sure!

[@justinrutledge6090]

@@MattBangsWood it would just be one perfectly multi color snap line floor nothing wrong with that, I mean you got sun glasses 🤣 I got black, red, an if I really screw up blue

[@BWIL2515]

Damn and your not done finding out well it's just work won't kill ya

[@erikpounder7651]

Love your videos im too busy to make them myself lol. If you have two trimmers you add 6-1/4 not 6". If you did 6" you'd be a 1/4" under your R.O. Sorry I can't help myself i know i sound like a troll lol I have learned a little off your bidding videos. your a solid business man. It aint easy running a framing company, trust me I know lol

[@MattBangsWood]

Don’t sound like a troll at all, for what it’s worth windows are 1/2” under R.O. call out so the bit heavy won’t kill. Haven’t ever cut headers 1/4” long to account for it, not a bad thought though!

[@PolloHoweParke]

When does the plan reading classes start ?

[@MattBangsWood]

First class will be mid-September. Aiming for 10-15th of the month, every month.

[@PolloHoweParke]

@@MattBangsWood thanks brotha 🤘

[@brahimahendar1525]

تستاهل برافو عليكم شغل متقن

[@joha7484]

❤❤❤ love that black shirt in you 😋

[@MattBangsWood]

Glad to see you back!

[@m.a.r.services5720]

Dang! That’s messed up.

[@Lektrician]

Call Larry haun!

[@saljablo2767]

Why wouldn’t 3 inch deck screws be fine for that floor?

[@MattBangsWood]

They make screws rated for sheathing that should be used instead.

[@izzyc.4746]

LOVE YOUR VIDEOS

[@MattBangsWood]

LOVE YOU IZZY.

[@izzyc.4746]

@@MattBangsWood KEEP THEM COMING ❤️👷🪚🦺

[@floorrez308]

Bro we need a Mota update loo and 🔨 on

[@MattBangsWood]

I actually tried to get Mota for this project but he’s been away on a different project with someone else! He may be making a comeback.. I’m about to cross that 10-employee threshold and I’d love to have him back.

[@hightechcarpentry]

This is literally at least 80% of my business, following up idiots. They hire the cheaper guy then when they don't finish and F it all up I get the phone call. By then my price has gone waaay up and the buyer is out tripple and they never learn.

[@MattBangsWood]

I have to say this is my third time in maybe 7 years where it's this bad. One we took turnkey, another was framing, same with this.. I try to avoid it, I enjoy building new.

[@cacophony775]

What’s that tool u use to help u snap lines ?

[@timmietimmins3780]

Scratch awl. You can hear him say as much at about 1:00. though it looks like it may be a nail set that he sharpened into an awl, from the appearance. At any rate, it's a pointy bit of metal with a handle.

[@saljablo2767]

@@timmietimmins3780 it’s a dewalt nail set. The wood is soft and it sets in by hand

[@MattBangsWood]

What I have is a nail set, sharpened to do damage.

[@zakattack467]

East stuff!

[@jagslion3]

Hey Matt, I want to get a labor quote for rough framing in my area, I hear it is about $11 per sqft but I want to find out for sure. What do I look up to find crews to get quotes?

[@MattBangsWood]

“Rough Framing Contractors in my area”, then send out what you can an “RFP” a request for proposal. Before sending to anyone, verify they’re licensed, bonded and insured.

[@jagslion3]

@@MattBangsWood Got It Thank you !!

[@joshsecondo7974]

I do my inside always what it’s supposed to be then go from there I would never do what your doing

[@MattBangsWood]

Explain this, please. You mark 36”? And mark out Jack and King? Just want to know what you’re referencing.

[@joshsecondo7974]

@@MattBangsWood yes if the window is 36 I do 18” then go 3 inches bigger just so I have my window right

[@joshsecondo7974]

I honestly love what you do dude I build in Montana huge custom’s just we go from the inside out same method sorry

[@faithhopeloveinc1893]

I want to come work with you

[@ENOKisHere]

I would like to do business with you

[@Carl-LaFong1618]

11:00 So that's where I left my diet coke.

[@waltk9067]

👍✌