ABANDONED Subway Tunnel & MARTA’S Unbuilt Rail Line

[@levonhill8586]

It’s so ironic how much that abandoned line is needed now

[@v12productions]

I agree

[@SamSitar]

they should build that now.

[@alexanderip1003]

if they build this line they should call it Indigo Line (this rarely used Color that sits between blue and purple)

[@bullybully]

I miss out on a lot of jobs due to no busses to a place so close

[@stevenmcgillivray9283]

Why's it needed now?

[@mikeharris468]

I would like to see MARTA resume building it. The Emory/CDC area is very congested. Tucker is fairly congested as well. And I hope they also expand the downtown street car. I think it needs to run up and down Peachtree from downtown to Buckhead somehow. The current streetcar route is very limited.

[@1038bro]

they are planning on building the Clifton corridor bus/tram line now but not from here

[@stevenmcgillivray9283]

Why? the buses take u up and down peachtree as is, it'll be even more of a waste of taxpayers money than the trolley already is.

[@WilliamKing-hf8lc]

I remember when the first phase of the Marta rail was opened a lot of people said it was a waste. The Marta RR help make the ATL what it is today!!!

[@matthewjones12181]

Really a shame that the NIMBIs won in Atlanta. There is such a need for more areas to be serviced by rail in Atlanta.

[@BL4CKKN1GHT]

The youth is way more receptive to public transportation and are less willing to drive. So there’s hope for the future. Personally I’d rather see marta expand heavy rail in the counties it’s already in before worrying about Cobb and Gwinnett. On top of that add more lines

[@pkattk]

@@BL4CKKN1GHT I have abandoned my car commute in exchange for an ebike combined with MARTA. it's incredible and more people should consider it. I commute from east atlanta to buckhead in around 40 minutes which is a little shorter than the traffic I would face during a typical morning rush hour driving through chokepoints at i-20, the downtown connector, then 400.

[@BL4CKKN1GHT]

@@pkattk more people should but marta has to step their game up by improving their bus service ITP and OTP so people can bike to marta.

[@markwiygul6356]

@@BL4CKKN1GHT In 2024, Cobb County voted against MARTA or public transit expansion with resounding strength. It was narrow miss in Gwinnett county, the second largest county in Georgia, and now over 1 million, with new apartments and townhouses popping up all over for more growth. They've been trying to expand for 4 years now, and it keeps getting closer. I think in 4 years some form of transit expansion will pass in Gwinnett, it might be Gwinnett's own BRT line or light rail rather than heavy rail. Congestion is maxing out, which is going to force employers to mitigate for more late workers. When it starts hitting the economics, things begin to happen

[@dangercloseusmc6902]

I just found your channel today, and have spent the day bingewatching your stuff. It's fantastic! :-). I live in Marietta, and am keenly interested in local RR history and general history, which you cover nicely. Keep 'em coming!

[@v12productions]

I really appreciate that! Thanks for watching!

[@PresYB]

I was born in the Atlanta metro in 1995, and my mom took me to work with her as well as to the CNN Center for lunch in downtown ATL in the late '90s/early '00s before we relocated to Birmingham, AL in 2002. Growing up in Birmingham, I went through the stereotypical "I got my license and car at 16, I'm free now!" BS. Now, in 2022, I'm back in Atlanta. Due to giving up my car upon moving to Buckhead, while I have access to the Red Line, I have friends I've made around Emory who would've been far more accessible had this been a reality.

[@bobp5356]

Mr. Gregor did a very eloquent job of explaining why the line was not extended toward Emory. The real reason is that those folks did not want the black folks coming to their neighborhoods.

[@stevepolek4226]

Exactly! That is why Cobb and Gwinett said no. It seems like it continues today with the line ending at N. Springs. They extended it just a little past the station, but with 400 now hemmed in with newly constructed lanes and future toll lanes added, there seems to be no room for the MARTA line like they are planning with the line running much further north. They have been saying that for at least 20 years. All planning, no action. Atlanta needs to sell that huge chunk of land they own in Forsyth county that was to be an airport and they would have the funding for such projects.

[@GabrielRodriguez-um8fi]

Wake up Tucker, Emory, COBB, AND GWINNETT!

[@jayo1212]

Cobb and Gwinnett, get your heads out of your asses!

[@j.p.obregon1415]

There is also, supposedly another unfinished tunnel that branches off around Arts Center Station or Midtown that was supposed to go towards what is now Atlantic Station. Never seen it, though

[@v12productions]

I've heard of that. I'm pretty sure it exists.

[@joewileman4480]

That provision can be observed by looking out the front/back of the trains shortly south of the i85 crossing north of Arts center. The side walls of the tunnel diverge for a bit (as visible by the lights on the walls of the tunnels). However the stub tunnels on each side only go on for something like 100-200 feet.

[@thesharinganknight]

I knew I wasn't tripping when I drive past it when I going to college.

[@truelife974]

It's there! You can see it on both sides. Better views from the front or back of the train, but you can still see the spurs by simply looking out the window from any location of the train.

[@jayo1212]

They really should build that, we really need a station that is closer to the Amtrak station...

[@DesoloZantas]

I find it funny that they caught the consistently malfunctioning Marta doors in the background in the interview.

[@CalvinMarshall-r6v]

That issue door malfunction is/can be corrected. God Bless 🙌 🙏

[@originalsmountup2019]

They didn't finish because the Whyte residents didn't want blacks to have easy access to their areas. Say that in your video because you know the truth

[@jayo1212]

Too right.

[@blast4me754]

Just like they didn't want a bigger bypass/loop cutting through Canton also. Those conservative bible types are some of the worst.

[@ugadawgsfan22]

The whistles go WOOO! Great video!

[@v12productions]

Thanks man!

[@nathaniel8328]

Interesting I never knew Marta had another missing tunnel back then. I still get weird dreams about being inside a train. Train tunnels make me a little nervous.

[@hoodboyzAtl]

Nathaniel Marta suppose to had 5 lines

[@nathaniel8328]

@@hoodboyzAtl I never knew all this time Marta needed 5 lines

[@mikeharris468]

In that case you would hate riding on the Eurostar train between London and Paris, much of which goes through a tunnel across the English Channel.

[@nathaniel8328]

@@mikeharris468 I took the train in London the train is very fast

[@electro_sykes]

If I was governor, I would build both the line between the portals west of East Lake - Tucker as well as another line between the stub tunnels north of Art Centre - Marietta.

[@TheLIRRFrenchie...]

Something so simple to build. I say that because the cost of this and what we spend on defense and the pentagons spending would be like giving a nickle to a homeless person. Build it already. Don't just let it go to pot. It's ripe, and ready and yet it just sits and has been for decades.

[@demetriuswalker5919]

when Marta rail transit first start they should just finished the line anyway not just leaving there abandoned for these years goes by

[@vejet]

That's so cool! Seeing old abandon infrastructure line this

[@philipsamuels4270]

I hope the planners use the portal it really makes sense.

[@ricardosheppard3528]

Philip Samuels (feat. "Pep*Rally Savings Coupons (+) Feastivities of each Hallways (+) Citywide Publix Grocery Stores' Dance (+) Workstations' Tracks per Fields") !!

[@electro_sykes]

they need to finish the North East Atlanta line as well as the Cobb Country line

[@CalvinMarshall-r6v]

Cobb and Gwinnett counties or surrounding Metro Atlanta Region suburban counties voters has to vote "YES" to join Marta/to expand MARTA. Cobb, Gwinnett, and any Metro Atlanta Region suburban counties taxpayers must past the 1% sale tax to expand Marta into Cobb, Gwinnett, or any of Metro Atlanta Region suburban counties. Metro Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority needs all of Metro Atlanta Region counties which include: Cherokee, Clayton, Cobb, Dekalb, Douglas, Fayette, Forsyth, Fulton, Gwinnett, Henry, and Rockdale counties, and the city of Atlanta to vote to join and pass the 1% sale tax to expand Marta. The Atlanta Metro Region is the 6th largest Metropolitan Area Population (6,307,261) in the United States based on the 2023 U.S. Census Bureau. (1. New York (19.4 million) . Los Angeles 3. Chicago. 4. Dallas, 5. HOUSTON (7.5 million), Atlanta (6.307 million), and 7. Washington DC (6.304 million). The Atlanta Metropolitan Statistical Area Population Change(%change +3.32 in 2023)is and expected to continue to increase over the coming Decades. Atlanta is notorious for its traffic congestion. MARTA, expansion over the entire Atlanta Metropolitan Region Area, is needed to help improve Atlanta's Traffic Congestion. So help the Atlanta Metropolitan Statistical Area's Traffic Congestion Problems God Bless 🙌 🙏 👏 .

[@Myfavoritecuties]

The station that could’ve been one stop further East of Indian Creek is “Rockbridge”

[@originalsmountup2019]

Yes! There needs to be another station past Indian creek

[@Myfavoritecuties]

Also, South Fulton and Six Flags on the Westbound

[@thesharinganknight]

They need to expand i heavy rail to Stonecrest. It’s crazy how much traffic has ventured out to Rockdale and Newton Counties especially if it’s a crash.

[@seraveegundam2032]

I saw a ghost at ashby station at 7.30 am or so. I never wanna get off there again. kinda got ghost ptsd now. If you've seen something weird please tell.

[@vinsoriano493]

What'd they look like?

[@Den-lt8ot]

​ i saw it too it looked like Bruce Vilanch!!!!

[@CalintzJerevinan546]

NERD!!!!

[@gerradwalker346]

You saw it live in person walking? What did it look like!?

[@sdrailproductions]

Nice video and great history

[@v12productions]

Thanks!

[@truelife974]

Just think, they followed the exact same logic when they built Ashby station. Thankfully they didn't skip out on building Bankhead station. Imagine what a waste and pointless inconvenience the design of Ashby would be today had this same thing happened.

[@hoodboyzAtl]

So will Marta build it

[@v12productions]

I highly doubt it.

[@hoodboyzAtl]

I really think Marta should go ahead and build it

[@v12productions]

It's definitely something Atlanta could use right now.

[@hoodboyzAtl]

@@v12productions It in Dekalb County and Marta board for that district has to come with a plan to get it built up and running... I feel like Marta is wasting millions of money on buses and light rail when the people want more heavy rail versus light rail

[@jayo1212]

@@hoodboyzAtl they will probably eventually use it for one line or another... With the recent addition of Clayton, it would really be a good time to dig up the Hapeville branch proposal, as that could extend to eastern Clayton...

[@jimratliff2753]

Amazing how we pay good money for taxes but we cannot get the best planners and constructors together to build projects on budget or on time. The public works, so called system of things is led poorly and bogged down in bureaucracy to no end. They do not know how to fix themselves as every decision has to be by committee and no one takes command. Sad and a pure waste of time/$$$$.

[@vr6swp]

I do know that a lot of outlying metro residents were concerned about MARTA expansion leading to an increase of crime in their communities. Statistics from the 80's and 90's do seem to bear that out. Douglas and Cobb counties fought expansion the hardest

[@athensboy123]

They was concerned because didn't want those city folks traveling to easy from town to town and didn't want all that foot traffic coming to the Lil towns

[@jayo1212]

They said they were concerned about it leading to an increase of crime, but that was just a dog whistle, meaning they really didn't want blacks or minorities coming out to their communities...

[@MariaCJ]

Studies didn't find this.

[@burdrchitect1680]

Shut down a party down there.. shit was crazy...

[@Brillemeister]

Oh to dream of a better way to travel to Emory. God bless

[@mgr_video_productions]

Great video! Interesting history too.

[@v12productions]

Thanks!

[@choppergirl]

The problem with railroads is once they get a hold of land, they will never ever fucking let go of it without you paying 10x what it is worth. And they prosecute everyone. So railroads are not your friend...

[@trainrover]

The practice of smothering your city with some ginormous tree canopy sure is fascinating me here 🍸

[@v12productions]

It's one of the great things about Atlanta.

[@trainrover]

I've been trying s o hard to watch regular MARTA bus rides..not easy to come by. Our own canopy here is too pierced, coz our layout's sort of cozily compact.

[@deadbeatalexander]

Who got the address to this place

[@jameslove9090]

they should just build it now its just look like a farm with all those weeds and writting

[@yaboidspdadon5838]

Community being opposed is has cost dearly

[@70mustang302]

Moving A****** Rapidly Through Atlanta. If you know, you know.

[@JTHEJUDGE]

The price just to inspect these things is cost prohibitive. Its better to just build fresh.

[@themole4534]

I've visited this site recently, now i finally know the reasoning to why this was left how it is today.

[@v12productions]

Yeah, for years I wondered why it was there. So, I finally decided to do this story.

[@tavarisrhodes8013]

where is it?????

[@jalil1k698]

Where is it ?

[@jazzsoul6067]

That's never going to get built. Any thought of money for MARTA heavy rail is being used for the trolley buses in Atlanta, which no one rides and the Beltline. Clayton County residents approved funds to expand MARTA heavy rail, yet MARTA refuses to begin even the prelimary steps to make it happen. East DeKalb County residents have been begging to extend MARTA rail to the eastern country line to deaf ears. Yet money is being poured into the expansion of the Interstates in the Atlanta area, the exact opposite of what other metros are doing around the country.

[@ayayaybamba3445]

I've only ridden matra proper a few times and God it's terrible. Nothing is ever on time, the trains make random stops on overpasses constantly, and everything is overcrowded. There's also not nearly enough stations to make it worth it.

[@amjkodaz]

Wow

[@stevenmcgillivray9283]

Cobb and Gwinnett have their own systems, they don't want their Counties to be thrashed out, like Atl., is.

[@kevinhoward9593]

So they basically just blew taxpayer money on a unused tunnel?

[@v12productions]

They told me they wanted to have it just in case they ever wanted to extend the line. It's never been used for anything, though.

[@sharkheadism]

It's less than 200 feet of tunnel. Just the beginning of one.

[@qjtvaddict]

The government can’t build shit that involves transit brah . They have to deregulate transit

[@antwainwilliams5335]

Whites wanted to protect their jobs nothing wrong with that

[@stevenmcgillivray9283]

How much did this blunder, cost taxpayers?

[@chickennuggetcentral576]

@@stevenmcgillivray9283it was literally never built because no one wanted to pay for what. Apparently the same people who whine about money are also just plain dumb I guess.

[@stevenmcgillivray9283]

@@chickennuggetcentral576 Being frugal, and thrifty is very astute.

[@athensboy123]

Simple way to fix all the dam traffic which is STOP PUTTING ALL THE DAM CARS IN THE ROAD SHIT.. 😂 Hey dummy u can't fix it with more and more high ways and more bridges and more trains... Dam just stop people need listen to me 😂

[@chasejordan4613]

Noah don't got an ark. Its a slave train

[@METALFACEDOOMXXXX]

Atlanta is way behind other places. Atlanta lame.

[@user-hf3eb8lj5g]

Charlotte worst

[@tinacouch3531]

Behind what?

[@METALFACEDOOMXXXX]

@@tinacouch3531 on everything. Atlanta lame. Only 400,000 people! The down town area is dead. And Marta is a joke! It's a small city with nothing going on. Boring as hell.

[@jayo1212]

Well, it's ahead of many other cities of similar size...

[@thesharinganknight]

@@METALFACEDOOMXXXX or doesn’t know city size doesn’t equal metro area size. The population is 6.1 million. Literally 8th in the whole country

[@METALFACEDOOMXXXX]

Boring. Nothing like NYC keep trying tho

[@livingwordzion7910]

NYC subways ass Atlanta subways got class

[@B7957395]

METALFACEDOOM lmao

[@larrybrennan1463]

There are unused bellmouths in several places in New York. A few in Chicago, too.

[@qjtvaddict]

NYC’s subway system was built mostly by private companies and entrepreneurs from the late 1800s to 1930s

[@qjtvaddict]

Mina Dyana NY is expensive and dirty

[@omecronrodneydheel349]

I would like to see Marta stop doing busses because they fail every day. A new company needs to come in and show them how it’s done. Marta trains are fantastic.

[@KCH55]

That's very unrealistic they're ever going to stop doing buses, though I do agree real needs to expand I would like to see all of metro Atlanta connected one day but that's far away from anything we remotely have. Most of the metro area doesn't even connect to Marta. Buses are fine and they're cheap, and obviously they fill in some of the gaps that trains/rail won't be able to do.